Should We Make Obese People Pay For NHS Treatment? | Good Morning Britain

[@mo8755]

How about making rich people and rich companies such as Amazon pay their full tax with no tax cuts or rebates.

[@erasedssss]

why r successful ones r to blame again? U think they came this way playing and dancing?

[@michaellynn9763]

Wow, that's an original and mature response! I suppose politicians are also useless and have no clue how to run a country containing 70 million people, whereas you of course have all the answers!

[@sniperpd9505]

How about making companies like Amazon pay tax in the country of economic activity and not let them pay tax in the country where taxes are lowest. Usually countries with a small population, like Luxemberg, where their economic activity is almost nil.

[@zedan4]

I've been on a very low income for years yet I lost 80 pounds.. went from 240 to 160 just by cutting calories and doing a bit of exercise, can't get my head around some of these crazy doctors

[@DrMattiLabbratt]

That’s excellent work! I’m so proud of your effort as I know it can be very tough x

[@billyhw5492]

How much weight have you gained back now?

[@thomasnewton8997]

Amazing well done 👍

[@seriousstuff8887]

Not everyone can afford to eat properly as she says , it's crazy when you have highly paid people like these pointing fingers shaming and blaming others for bad diets . There's families out there that consider chip sandwiches a luxury and cheap meats are also a huge problem. How much processed food does this woman eat I wonder? She has a choice of fine foods better quality meats etc. She's not wandering around Iceland and lidl looking at the 1pound pack of lunchinroll.

[@Biggie123Fol]

If she ate less crap she could spend that on better quality food. I got enough good meat from the butchers to feed me, my son and his girlfriend today for 2 meals and a BBQ. It cost less than 3 McDonalds meals!! It's actually cheaper to eat healthy. People are just to lazy to prep anything properly.

[@xrpgino6858]

@@Biggie123Fol that's still expensive. Good meat is expensive end of. Yeh veg is cheap and u can make alright meals but meat is still so pricey

[@Biggie123Fol]

@@xrpgino6858 You say thats still expensive but it cost less to feed 3 people 3 meals from the butcher than it would have cost to buy us all just one McDonalds meal each!!! And either way what's wrong with making some sacrifices. Eat less expensive crap and afford more healthy food. Simple!

[@xrpgino6858]

@@Biggie123Fol I'm saying McDonald's is still expensive it's expensive either way. Even when u don't eat expensive crap it's still expensive. The cheapest fresh meat at the cheapest supermarket is still expensive

[@Biggie123Fol]

@@xrpgino6858 Everything at a supermarket is expensive these days thanks to Joe Biden lol But heating healthy is still cheaper than eating crap. Just takes a bit of time to prepare. Yes McDonalds is still expensive. But it doesn't stop overweight people that claim they are poor going there to eat twice a week!! I'm saying what I see with my own eyes instead of going along with what TV shows tell us to believe!

[@jdoohan1763]

I come from an economically deprived area. Low wages etc. A doctor once told me I'm an anomaly when I responded to his question "do you smoke" with a no. I can never understand how these poor disadvantaged people can afford cigarettes... SORRY NO! Take some responsibility for yourself and your health. I have worked in a supermarket and have SEEN what fat families buy. All processed food... family sized shepherds pie high in salt sugar fat. I was in total shock. Make it yourself... Why should the tax payer be responsible for another person's bad lifestyle choices. Educating yourself on food is easy these days. There is enough information out there. Let's sell a pill for every ill. She is correct. It's in the pharmaceutical companies interests to have people rely on drugs. How can people not see this. The food industry markets food as healthy... if its in a box. It's not. I've worked in marketing. Ad agencies were like hey Mars... hey... we can help you get around the HFSS government regulations without changing your recipes. Seen those new healthy mars and bounty bars. Yeah... they aren't healthy. Don't eat that shit unless you're exercising and need fast fuel. Want to lose weight. Up protein and healthy fats. Snack on nuts and fruit. Reduce grain foods. No breads cereals pasta etc. Cut alcohol to weekends only. It's more complex than calories in vs out. Your body uses more energy to burn certain foods, like protein. Plus it's satiating. Rant / advice over. Dr chris... telling people he has no advice for them. What an absolute joke.

[@naobe5]

100 times...AMEN!!!👋👋

[@ArranVid]

I've always thought about how poor disadvantaged people somehow manage to afford cigarettes too!

[@danielrichardson990]

What about women with cystic ovaries. A huge side effects of this condition is weight gain and the difficulty of losing the weight with this condition. There are plenty of conditions out there that causes weight gain not just over eating. Should these people have to pay also then?

[@lolee101]

Thank you. This lady is out of order

[@adds-kz3oc]

PCOS or not, you cannot disobey the laws of physics. If you are gaining weight, eat less calories. It's that simple.

[@KcBreezy-g7n]

As someone who was reluctantly referred to a weight management program by my GP. It took me getting to an extremely dangerous bmi and many many failed attempts for them to finally allow me to get the help. I wish they could have referred me sooner. Dr Chris has echoed the same as my nutritionist. Trying to understand the deceptive ever-changing tactics of the food company and extremely laxed government laws makes it a struggle. Obesity will only get worse. Understanding calories or hidden calories in foods has been beneficial. Also people ignore the mental health aspect of weight loss. Income plays a major role. Happy to say I have lost weight and finally feel I have the tools to continue to do so. I am on the bariatric list but if I continue at my weight loss I will not need it. I would rather they made skin removal surgery after weight loss an option as an incentive or reward for your hard work.

[@PeaceMatters5]

Agree completely with this women, another drug to get people hooked on with side-effects, like anti-depressants rather than education and other practices, we are a country that loves "quick-fixes".

[@DrMattiLabbratt]

Exactly, obesity is a complex problem involving emotional, mental, social,financial and many other components. You can’t just throw a drug at it and hope it will “fix it” The only winners will be the Drug Companies Excessive profits and those of their greedy shareholders

[@ChangHooo]

Hello nice to meet you ❤😊

[@ChangHooo]

​@@DrMattiLabbratthello nice to meet you 😊

[@DrMattiLabbratt]

@@ChangHooo Hello ChangHooosan . Nice to meet you also 🙏🏼

[@thomasnewton8997]

Junk food is addictive tax these companies like McDonald's and KFC and burger king

[@thomasnewton8997]

Free nutritional knowledge should be free and there are free gym programmes

[@miriamcohen7657]

Do smokers pay for their health care? How about drinkers?

[@xrpgino6858]

Exactly. How about people who don't only drink water? Or those who drive? Or those that don't wear covid mask? Or those who leave the house in the morning? Or those that are born? Should they be made to pay?

[@jshepherd2893]

Exactly, how can you target only overweight people. I'm overweight but have not had any medical treatment regarding my weight or hospital treatment for that or any other issues thankfully. Yet, some people who have genetic ill health do use medical services more and some who are just unfortunate in life or enjoy daring sports, yet obese is always targeted.

[@kevspencer5744]

Yes they do actually with the huge taxes imposed on the products that they use.

[@miriamcohen7657]

@@kevspencer5744 Not extra for health care?

[@erasedssss]

Not only they should pay for their treatment but for the hazardous smoke we receive while they smome

[@balance3201]

Start by refusing drunks into A and E at the weekends.

[@joshuataylor3550]

Grow up

[@normanbell-br7nf]

Why let them work there in the first place

[@AM2K2]

How disempowering was that statement by the doctor at the end? 'You are doomed by your environment, nothing you can do, keep eating'

[@JustUsFlyers]

He's a "TV doctor" what do you expect. One step away from a politian!

[@thomasnewton8997]

I'm on a low income and I can buy healthy food and i can afford to train in Mauy Thai

[@wearsider]

I forgot to mention the alcohol industrie, especially wine. Many tv programs soaps etc , the first thing they do is open a bottle of wine when they get home , this seems to be the new trend in movies and television. I watched a program and in nearly all the scenes with different situations , they nearly all were breaking open or drinking wine. Wine has often more alcohol in it than beer. So if people are drinking wine everyday and depending on how much, they will be adding more calories to their food diet.

[@jshepherd2893]

Not to mention it causing high blood pressure, heart and liver disease, mouth, throat, esophagus, colon,rectum, weaken immune system, memory speech, brain and lack of balance control causing injury and seeking medical help but society seems to of overlooked that so whilst some may eat others might drink, smoke, take drugs or participate in sports that could have serious medical seeking consequences short and longterm.

[@RTG1031]

Very true

[@Chainbreak2023]

And alcohol makes you gain tones of weight😮

[@DrMattiLabbratt]

Such a great point. Alcohol is a massive issue among patients we see yet barely seems to get a mention unless it is about “Near death alcoholics” which is often sadly too late to treat and save their lives. So many people are on this road, yet it’s all socially acceptable and just a huge joke. We see 20 alcohol related cases to every 1 obesity related case

[@sniperpd9505]

They all seem to be having wine in a very large glass. Glug, glug. I used to enjoy a glass of wine but gave it up several years ago.

[@Blytonrocks]

Ghastly awful woman, not letting Dr Chris get a word in! 😡

[@Binxy8]

You what??? We all pay for our treatment through our taxes and Nat insurance so you will give everyone what they pay for regardless of race, gender, sexulaity Or WEIGHT

[@sylviabarnes2668]

She doesn't exactly look skinny

[@susanwoodward6307]

That's just what I was thinking

[@AA-iq8rm]

She could be metabolically healthy. You can't always tell just by looking at a person.

[@tommywilliams9414]

I smoke and am on private healthcare because I feel unjustified making the public pay for my healthcare choices and obesity is most of the time a choice of a unhealthy lifestyle.

[@sniperpd9505]

Do you live in the UK or a country where private healthcare is the norm?

[@tommywilliams9414]

@@sniperpd9505 UK.

[@sniperpd9505]

@@tommywilliams9414 I expect it's a company perk.

[@tommywilliams9414]

@@sniperpd9505 no I pay out of my own pocket for faster and more efficient healthcare.

[@tommywilliams9414]

@@sniperpd9505 also as said, I willingly make health choices that will likely lead to future ill health so it’s not fair for me to exploit the taxpayer because of my choices. Likewise it’s unfair for smokers or the obese to do the same.

[@ahmedsenussi8232]

That's not teaching anyone anything that's humiliating them most people who are overweight have psychological and economic problems

[@thomasnewton8997]

Give them a healthy life eating plan and a free gym membership

[@extermin8or3]

Not only would this be incredibly unethical but also would descriminate heavily against people who have illnesses that slow down your metabolism and make you gain weight etc.

[@joshuataylor3550]

Not to mention those not born into wealth.

[@Melanie_Star]

As soon as we start going into "making people pay" for their life style, it's a highly slippery road to the end of the NHS. It's always these private practice people that try to fight to take our public services away. Let's help obese people in better ways, not advertise & sell so much crappy food, lower prices for healthy foods & lower the huge portions that are allowed to be given out. Education & paying for treatment are two different things & is disgusting, tbh. Edit- this woman is vile, sorry, she really comes across that way.

[@johnsmith-lb4mo]

Obese people need to help themselves by changing their lifestyle, just stop eating so much and make an effort to stay healthy.

[@Chainbreak2023]

She sounds like Eastern European woman, they don’t filter their words, the people in Eastern Europe are slim and take good care of themselves 😂. Unlike Britain.

[@MyFrankieee]

She has said some valuable points though

[@TB-us7el]

The approach of Dr Orsmond is vastly better than the British doctor, who suggests people of limited means have no self control, while being paid to prescribe things they may have to take for life. He is feathering his own nest. Dr Orsmond on the other hand talks about ways to have people take control of their own lives which, if anything, would decrease her patient numbers and apparently this isvile...why, for speaking the truth?

[@ChangHooo]

​@@MyFrankieeehello nice to meet you ❤😊

[@paulgill5078]

I am a big lad I eat well but can never shift the weight but when I pay for my prescription is that not paying for health care

[@ruthhadfield9726]

I don't take seriously anyone who calls themselves an expert in weight loss or parenting lol

[@sandraoneill4431]

Not all obsess people are fat due to eating but its due to other medical conditions.

[@leenaronalds4155]

"Other medical conditions." You're absolutely right. It's called not knowing when to stop eating. Fat people eat more than they need to. They eat too much of the wrong kinds of food and not enough of the the right kind. Don't believe me? Next time you eat out watch other diners. Slim and average-sized people eat within reason: no appetisers, reasonable sized main course, no pudding, and very little alcohol. Fat people, on the other hand, eat and drink in abundance.

[@balance3201]

99 percent eat too much.

[@mikereaper3869]

99% are

[@sandraoneill4431]

@@balance3201 no big pharma is the problem the meds they keep pumping into people are partly to blame. I’m not saying some is down to gluttony but so is highly processed food is also a problem.

[@sandraoneill4431]

@@mikereaper3869 you are so misinformed.

[@jaytee8925]

There is eating healthily/unhealthy vs quantity. Even if we cannot afford healthier alternatives, we can control the amount of 'fast foods' we eat on a daily basis.

[@harvestcanada]

That's not how it works.

[@michaellynn9763]

@@harvestcanada How does it work?

[@eddieyoung6845]

forced by economic circumstances to eat processed food is a sham. I've been skint and gone to the local aldi. Yeah you can choose to buy cheap processed food, or you can buy a couple cans of tuna, soup, pasta etc, and get a reasonably balanced diet for £10 a week. The food industry is the problem because if you ever actually look at what you're picking up in the supermarket, 95% of it has so much crap in it. (like your whole food group daily allowance on one processed portion.) That's where personal accountability is important because yeah you can say its very easy to find yourself eating rubbish when you're going for cheap options, but others will consistently, with the same budget, actively seek out the cheap food with nutritional value thats not super processed. Kinda makes the doctor on the right's argument feel weaker, because instead of honestly assessing both the fault of the individual and the food industry, he's alleviating the individual of all responsibility for their own weight

[@lindaleTH]

Totally agree with you. That woman made a lot of sense. Whereas the guy on the right was very patronising to people of colour etc. You can eat well cheaply and you have to take responsibility for your weight, not expecting these quick fixes. The food and drug industry does not want people looking after themselves or they lose,mondey

[@naobe5]

I don't mind the NHS paying for obese people treatment....On the other hand I would LOVE to see some kind of reward scheme put into place for people like myself, who have invested time and money in being as healthy as possible and therefore no being a burden on NHS funds!

[@racheliza7604]

I don’t agree with paying for these meds over other ones needed by other groups of people ( the obvious one: smokers). I think the woman Dr is completely right that pills aren’t the answer and it is in pharma’s interest to keep people on lifelong medications.

[@martinl6133]

Good grief! Wants people to eat healthy food, that may not affect many cases, and they have poor income, and poor housing and so forth. Thank god she's not my GP. If I asked her what can be done to help them, she's going to bellow, at them and the patient is so denigrated and traumatised that they they'd leave the surgery and get some Chocolate! My advice to this poor person would be to complain, and find a better GP The debate was also extremely poorly moderated. I need some Ice cream, and I only saw her on KZbin.

[@lisaw1525]

Lisa's husband, Andy here, I work for the NHS I am working long hours and have not been given a break during lock down and even got hospitalised during that time. The stress of this damn job has made me put weight on. How would you feel about these possibilities, Cyclists that get knocked off their bikes (Sod 'em), People who fall of ladders ( sod 'em) , Suicide attempts (sod 'em) , people with STD's (Sod 'em) Who decides. I have to put my prejudices at the back of my mind. They are all lifestyle choices. If your family has cancer in the family should you breed? It's a lifestyle choice and obviously don't agree with what the woman is saying or any of this. All the best, I think that people who pay taxes deserve a service. You were clapping me and others like us . Pharmaceutical companies only care about profit (look at the wonderful vaccination campaign) a few years ago. My advice for anyone who wants to lose weight is don't work for the NHS. Good bye. 😡

[@Biggie123Fol]

Thanks Andy! You know pharmaceutical companies made billions out of the vaccine right?? Hardly a wonderful vaccination considering it didn't stop transmission, came with possible side effects and wasn't needed by everyone even though thats what they tried to convince us. But you're right about one thing, people that pay their taxes deserve a service. Some people don't work due to their obesity and therefore don't pay taxes!

[@colettegibson6516]

Obesity is not (largely) a medical problem! Smokers are taxed massively so pay for their future treatments, fat people don't and totally agree, doctors must stop throwing drugs at people and treat the cause

[@billyhw5492]

The drugs are treating the cause.

[@OfficialExqui]

@@billyhw5492 How are these drugs education people on proper nutrition ?

[@jshepherd2893]

So anyone who fancies living in UK can use our NHS freely without any contribution but a tax worker who has lived and worked full time up to her 60' who's not dependable on any state handouts and medical history to date is exemplary but is overweight is being targeted.

[@michaellynn9763]

This is an excellent point but I think the number of examples would be at either end of the bell curve and not a good representation.

[@aowin5022]

That's going down a very bad road. If obese people have to pay for NHS treatments does that mean that drug addicts and alcoholics have to pay too. There would be end to it.

[@johnsmith-lb4mo]

The NHS should be free at point of service for every citizen that has payed into the service through taxation.

[@tofurakhanom2644]

Living costs is so high right now and someone like her say this its disgusting

[@AA-iq8rm]

If I gave you the choice between a healthy high fibre meal that will cost you £2 and be filling, or a fast food burger for £1, but told you that you would need at least 3 of these burgers to feel full, and at the same time hurt your health in other ways, what would you choose?

[@wearsider]

They should blame the food industries and the breweries , look at all those with beer bellies. The lifestyle we lead, with all the junk foods people eat, it's no wonder that people are getting more and more overweight. They should make healthy food cheaper and junk foods more expensive. I don't believe overweight people should pay more towards the NHS, the junk food industrie, breweries , tobac industrie, and soft drinks industrie should pay into the NHS, just imagine how much money the NHS could receive, instead the government keeps the tax for other things, other than the NHS.

[@ruasetepovos]

Unable to afford food, rather than 10 processed sausage rolls from Iceland or what about, a bag of carrots for 50p, broccoli for 50p, chopped tomatoes for 50p and wholemeal spaghetti for 50p from Lidel. It's about education a lot of it. Poor communities are used by the big corporates of processed food. Yes of course genetic as well but most poor uneducated people.

[@michaellynn9763]

The "education", which is very simple, is there, people are simply choosing not to.

[@rockyrocker7692]

I already liked Dr Chris, but after watching this I think he’s an absolute legend. I couldn’t have stayed so level headed. It was a very poorly moderated debate.

[@athenarose9084]

It can take years to get correct diagnosis and treatments especially for conditions that affect women many of which cause weight problems, maybe it's the doctors that need better education instead of leaving people to suffer for years and then blaming them for the effects of these undertreated medical conditions.

[@simonegan3698]

How about making decent food affordable, and banning all advertising of processed foods

[@nimflower]

YASS LADY GWAAAAAN!! "our genetics have no changed, our environments have changed" TRUTH RIGHT THERE!!!!

[@joshuataylor3550]

Exactly, the point supports the NHS paying for it. And the idea it's not the fault of the individual.

[@Scotter4536]

Exactly, you need to change the environment not just educate people. People before processed foods knew less about nutrition, calories and diets, but didn't suffer from obesity. Chris is right, you need to change the food system. Until then you need to not discriminate against obese people.

[@aethellstan]

no. where does it stop? smokers, drinkers, people who exercise and get injured etc etc

[@Snippets635]

I doubt education about obesity will help those that want to eat those types of food anyway… I am defo speaking from experience here knowing the risk these food will have on my body but being in a cycle of getting comfort from the food and quite frankly it just tastes good as well

[@samanthaapple7767]

Rude woman! Let him speak. 😤

[@wearsider]

The Tabaco and Alcohol and food industries should pay more if anything, into the NHS, or at least those food industries that don't sell healthy food. If food is not healthy then it shouldn't be on the shelves and then we wouldn't need giant supermarkets selling rubbish food. People are people, so where do you draw the line when it comes to laying out rules to people's health. People receiving money because they can't work for being overweight, should have to go on health care diets .

[@ScreamingWereWolf]

The simple answer is no!

[@kongokin5452]

Put that million pounds into payslips and increase their income.

[@stratfordbaby]

Having been on Wegovy myself, I must say that my body after the first few weeks at maximum dose (because of titration) starts to fight the effects. Not losing.

[@billyhw5492]

There is only a certain amount it's going to cause you to lose and then it stops. But if you stay on it your weight should remain stable at that new set point and your hunger will increase and you will eat some more again but you won't be gaining weight. Check out Dr. Carel le Roux's videos where he explains this.

[@Adam-hf7hn]

She has a point about education nonetheless, although I don’t agree with the premise of her point. When I was in school I was never taught how to read food labels etc

[@michaellynn9763]

Nobody was taught, but responsible individuals teach themselves! Applies to all walks of life, not just this background.

[@minty258]

How much does sport cost the NHS? Should people who conduct risky activities like skiing, rugby etc have to pay? There's ways of keeping fit without having to do certain sports. Ultimately it's a lifestyle choice. Be interesting to see how many are admitted to hospital over a weekend as a result of sporting injuries....

[@JayBee51]

Can't be bothered to watch / listen to this, but my response is straight forward, tax and control the food manufacturers / processors effectively (aka Windfall) to fund the costs they create. Ensure all the provision is in place including money, education, promotion to fight obesity effectively and positively !

[@kevspencer5744]

We need to educate the young in school and teach them how to cook from scratch just like in the good old days. It is cheaper to eat properly but easier to buy take aways from the many fast food joints on the streets. The woman is correct, the male doctor is trying to peddle the drugs, all drugs are risky. Obesity is not just a strain on the NHS it will cut peoples lives short and save on pensions, this is why healthy eating is not being pushed enough.

[@billyhw5492]

The drugs have proven safe in diabetics for 18 years.

[@adzm1987]

Drinkers, smokers ,eaters, people who have dangerous jobs, people with attitude problems, 🙄 where is the line!! Silly nonsense live and let live

[@matthewgubbins8515]

Totally agree with you. And most of those are already highly taxed

[@adzm1987]

Thank you, exactly, was the sugar tax not a tax on overweight people

[@Theyellowandtheblue]

Nonsensical program filler you are correct

[@tanmoychakraborty785]

The lady dominated with her fair points. Everyone knows the pharma and FMCG giants along with private hospital groups will keep promoting meds. Even health related startups have made it a business out of people's inability to reduce junk. The poorest parts in a country somehow I feel eat much healthier and natural. The absence of commute makes them walk regularly and farm fresh. Bottomline is, 30 mins of yoga, 30 mins of cardio, 3 days a week weight training (don't need a gym. Google calisthenics) along with a healthy diet trying to have lots of fruits and vegetables and the required amount of protein, is enough for anyone. EVERYONE can try this within their limitations and we won't be having this debate ever.

[@m0tm0t2]

She dominated cos she shouted over every one. I wouldn’t be surprised if she benefits from obese people paying for meds (I don’t know I’m not saying she does but it could be true). If fat people need to pay to see the doctors, then more people will turn to weight loss clinics like her own. It’s simple. It’s also why I suspect she’s against these weight loss drugs (again I don’t know and I don’t know if these drugs r any good either). But by preventing fat people from taking potentially effective weight loss drugs then they will have to go to clinics like hers.

[@Scotter4536]

@@m0tm0t2 Unfortunately, if forced to pay they won't go to her clinic, they'll do as the American's do and just not go to the doctor until it's life or death.

[@NotoriousEKB]

So...make it harder for people to get healthy? That woman (how is she a doctor!?) is both bonkers and extremely rude.

[@Beautycomesoutofashes]

And they are both wrong about the drug. It is not the answer.

[@ChangHooo]

Hello nice to meet you 😊

[@garethjones2746]

The lady is right but in my experience of many people, people break the rules, don’t stick to things and won’t take the education and work offered to them to lose the weight. You do get fat because you eat far too much, but unless our culture changes it’s gonna carry on. People drive to the corner shop and park on the double yellows to go in so they don’t have to walk, they know they shouldn’t but they do. Many people don’t care

[@billyhw5492]

Have you ever asked yourself why people eat too much?

[@drashmaria]

Absolutely agree with professor

[@ivormectin.3046]

The lady is 100% correct. 82% of supermarket foid is over processed.. why put sugar in potatoe crisps for a start.smoke and drink alcohol in moderation.. its not hard..

[@Ads20105]

Good food is expensive bad food is cheap should they charge the food outlets?

[@reginamushi6582]

So smokers and alcoholics should also pay then because they also smoke Knowingly it's bad for them! Addiction is on both.

[@slimetime8956]

To tell the truth I only watch this show for susanna.

[@itaz6276]

We should make the processed food companies and supermarkets pay for the nhs … ur dumping ultra processed food on poor income families and then blaming the families

[@AA-iq8rm]

Why? They employ people who pay their taxes too. If we went back to a pre capitalism era of just whole foods, I would be overjoyed, personally, but life might start to feel boring for others who will seek those foods elsewhere and buy them online.. are you going to tax companies abroad too, or close our borders to trading? People need to take responsibility for their own actions. There are whole foods available, and there are processed and ultra processed foods. If someone enjoys a pizza occasionally, it's hardly going to make them obese. On the other hand, too many people live off junk food. And anyone who tells me it's too expensive to eat well angers me. I managed it as a student, it just takes a bit of homework. Eat like your grandparents ate, can't afford fresh fish, eat canned fish in olive oil or water. Can't afford many veg? Eat in season or frozen, just as healthy. Porridge for breakfast. Bread from the bakery without additives - you can often find good deals if not oven fresh. Eggs, butter, no veg oils. No sugar. Good luck to everyone.

[@Suzibird307]

So, this will happen next with alcoholics & smokers as well? FAT chance.

[@macsmiffy2197]

My diet hasn’t changed in 60 years, always eaten a home cooked diet. I’ve only become obese since waiting to become deemed disabled enough for a hip replacement which has been ongoing for 8 years. This has really impacted my fitness levels. Give me a new hip and I can sort out the fitness levels and avoid all those metabolic diseases I’m facing down the line! Her argument is too simplistic. Oh, and she makes her money from diet clinics.

[@game4life678]

Hmmm so someone diagnosed with type 2 while being underweight is a lifestyle choice. People need to know diabetes isn't specific to those are obese, its time to look at all aspects of weight whether it be gains or loss.

[@ronica4803]

No! Should drug addicts, alcoholics etc. be charged. This woman is lacking in compassion.

[@chrisparnham]

She's not exactly the slimmest guest they've ever had either.

[@Subtleknife12367]

Yes they should.

[@chrisparnham]

@@Subtleknife12367 Yeah, well that's not how we do things in the UK mate and nobody needs to hear your ignorant views.

[@malcolm7548]

if obese people have to pay does that mean people who drink alcohol, smoke, get cancer from to much sunbathing or even just aged especially as they have already paid for their medical care assuming they have paid tax

[@janeevans5132]

It seems the NHS will eventually go broke and not due to obesity either. The government want to introduce private paying insurance then everyone will have to pay which is fair. You can't just make a section of the public pay. You could say all smokers should pay as well if this is the way things are going. We all know that smoking causes heart problems high blood pressure, strokes etc. to name but a few.

[@Mimi25291]

Then should people who suffer mental health also be charged because depression and stress is linked to illness and all kinds of problem. Then you can go to smokers, and I agree doctors should educate people about high fibre diets and eating less fatty meat cutting down alcohol consumption I do think doctored don’t do enough to on informing people to increase fibre and eating 30 different type of veg and fruit it’s not just about saying eat less processed food they need high fibre and lots more plants, and sleep better.

[@kathleenweinberg6442]

My question is why not?

[@RTG1031]

Next drug will be for people who smoke

[@helendisco3939]

Champix for smoking cessation was available for over a decade in the UK until very recently, it was very successful so I'm unsure why it's been withdrawn..Off to Google I go!

[@RTG1031]

@@helendisco3939 maybe they started to offer it before it was tested properly and they found some problem with it so withdraw till they sorted it. Or not many wanted to use it

[@bokangphelane]

Not a single mention of exercise in this debate. I don't think obese people should pay out of pocket for the medication if help us available for "free" , but people do need to take accountability over their personal health. Obesity is not a result of genetics, it's an excess of calories intake.

[@billyhw5492]

Is edema a result of excess fluid intake?

[@thomasnewton8997]

Epilepsy is not a life style choice obesity is

[@paulawoolerton6465]

We're does it stop if we make people pay , then who will it be next

[@mrmeldrew693]

What percentage of NHS spending goes to type 2 diabetes and its complications?! Solving that would take a massive burden of the service.

[@Biggie123Fol]

I'm sure I've seen Dr Chris supporting Just Stop Oil!!!

[@bernadettehenry24]

Dr Eva at one time lived in Ireland and was always preaching about overweight people with no advice other than attend her clinic. She is still the same ,rude and patronising. No manners as would not allow other Dr speak and obviously not listening to him, what does that say about her !!!

[@sguerreiroluis608]

Supermarkets have more lanes selling sugar, chocolates, cakes, than vegetables

[@Beautycomesoutofashes]

Emm, excuse me? What about people who are alcoholics or drug addicts… will you also make them pay in money for medical help?

[@peterreed3104]

Should We Make Obese People Pay For NHS Treatment? And how much does a Michael Gove Cost the Country?

[@reeling-in]

Any news on GMB favourite Schofield!?

[@annettewarwell7210]

No obese people should not pay for their NHS treatment it is discrimination

[@jonbarrass9598]

Would be a huge weight off their mind! 🤣

[@richardlynch6927]

Obesity is just one of the wonderful reason why we are all receive treatment , we all live under the banner of the human condition which means we are all living to the best of abilities be it yes some struggle more than others that shouldn’t divide us .

[@jonbarrass9598]

Eat less exercise more 🙄

[@richardlynch6927]

And many have ended up in hospital because of exercise etc heart attack , sprains , broken bones , high blood pressure .

[@jonbarrass9598]

@@richardlynch6927 eat less then

[@jonbarrass9598]

@@richardlynch6927 eat less then

[@richardlynch6927]

If only it was that easy , for many there body doesn’t behave that way for those with weight issues , the body will shuts down and they even put more Weight on due to fluid . Even if your a moderate size , as you know some can just look at food and put weight , some can eat little food and put weight . There are many with emotional and mental health issues , I think eating less may work for a minority of cases .

[@sniperpd9505]

I wonder if she will be advocating that those who do exercise to the extent they injure themselves or in later years need new hips or knees should not be treated in the NHS.

[@michaellynn9763]

That's a ridiculous argument. You cannot compare preventative sports movements to being unhealthily negligent.

[@jumble-1238]

‘We’re talking about giving people education.’ ‘It’s empowerment’. What the hell is she talking about. You can’t talk people eating less bread and more cabbage.

[@anonthemouse5422]

this lady isn’t even scientifically correct. calories in calories out is not accurate… the quality of food matters and is worse for low income people.

[@Darkangel-hy8ev]

I can tell you now that is a myth, same as drinking more water will help you lose weight, same as you shouldn't eat late at night, same as you shouldn't drink diet soda/pop etc etc Also dieting is 80% about the food you eat, and only 20% about the exercise you need to do!! I can tell you all this because it is only cals in and out, you can eat what you bloody want as long as you stick to those cals every day, save them up if you need to for going out for a meal or drinking at the weekend etc as long as your weekly total adds up to the correct amount you will be fine!! I know this because i have struggled all my life with my weight simply because i like my food, and an emotional eater, and have a sweet tooth, no excuses, that is how i am! However i was not meant to be fat, i have a very small frame, small hands, ankles, feet, quite nice legs, etc etc and have an hour glass figure when i lose the weight! I have lost all my weight i needed to many times, well 4 in my lifetime, woke up one day, got a calorie counting book, and just got on with it, i lost 41/2 stone in 7 months, no extra exercise either, just my normal job! Oh and i drank diet Pepsi all the time, and i mean a lot, i ;i live on the stuff anyway, about 10 2 litre bottles a week! When i have put any weight back on, it is because i have stuffed my face, no one else's fault, but my own! I don't make excuses, i just get on with it, and it is very hard, but it can be done, it is as simple as you want, or you can make it as hard and complicated as you want! But what people need to stop doing, is stop making excuses! At the end of the day we all know most overweight people do!!

[@anonthemouse5422]

@@Darkangel-hy8ev what i don’t understand is, if if you were locked in a room with carrots and apples, as many as you could eat, would you overeat? most people overeat because bad quality food is addictive. if you manage your fiber content, eat natural foods as much as possible, maintain good protein, don’t drink sugary drinks, you will lose weight much more effectively. yes, calories play a role but you’ll have a much easier time avoiding overeating if you eat the right foods

[@Darkangel-hy8ev]

@@anonthemouse5422 I understand what you are saying, and when people used to comment on my diet not being perfect when i am losing my weight, that is fine, i know how i like to do it, what works for me etc, and they would still be struggling because they were trying to worry about fiber content, fat content etc when i did not! Like i said if i had to mess about worrying about those things i would never succeed! Weight watchers, slimming world, all those things never worked for me, to complicated, telling you what you should eat and not etc Plenty of water theory again, it is rubbish, and i do not really like water! You do you, but what i do works every time, and most people would not stick to it,as i have never had more than 1300 cals a day at the very most! I do not have fast food on it anyone, but i do occasionally save up cals to go for a meal, or have a take away, or go out drinking, but it is not a regular thing! I don't eat breakfast, as not hungry in mornings, and i try and save more cals for the evening as that as when i want them more, and i am a night owl, so i have always ate very late at night! Also just remember Diet Pepsi is not a sugar drink, none in it, and in my opinion it is lovely, but i can not drink diet coke, hate the stuff! You see my way is not a typical way, but it is plain and simple and works, and would work for anyone, but not many will stick with it, only way i know, no one said it was easy lol

[@sarahbotfield4388]

I would very much like to be interviewed to show how obesity is not because of greed

[@celebibi4360]

This doctor is seriously off putting he basically said at the end "if you are a person in a big body, you have my love and condolences you are doomed as you are a product of your environment and not your own actions, furthermore you are should take this new not researched a lot drug indefinitely to reduce youre hunger and lose weight" this whole idea that people are forced to eat take out and processed food because of income is a complete excuse its actually cheaper to buy fresh produce or/and in bulk and it will last longer. think about it tuna sandwich in tesco is like 2.40. a bag of bread ALONE is like 70p instead of spending that money on a meal deal they could buy the ingredients and make enough sandwich's to last at least a 5 days

[@williammorris1384]

Exactly. Fresh fruit , some vegetables and tinned tuna for eg , cost no more than pizzas, Deliveroo and just eat .

[@lyndasmith8068]

@@williammorris1384 your body needs meat and other things too, you cannot totaly live on fruit and veg your body needs and not all live on pizzas and sandwiches , but most weight gain comes from illness or drugs

[@williammorris1384]

@@lyndasmith8068 No , I disagree. Some weight gain is medically related , but most of it is a life style choice . A tuna salad for example, is a healthy, easy to prepare dinner, that could serve 4 easily. But it’s easier to dial a pizza . We are an inherently lazy society and fast food companies have exploited this, for years now.

[@williammorris1384]

@@lyndasmith8068 Yes ; as I mentioned, there certainly are people who have conditions that are difficult to treat . I do wish these people a successful recovery or management of their symptoms.

[@melinmove]

I wish they would let him finish what he's saying

[@billyhw5492]

That woman was astonishingly rude.

[@ArranVid]

@@billyhw5492 The woman was right.

[@aaaggg7311]

Not affording for low income families is an excuse, especially if they rely on fast food and processed food. it is laziness...

[@aaaggg7311]

​@@hiromiw649 Sounds like excuses... Unless you can point to a reliable source for this?

[@wearsider]

Is Britain now the most obese nation in Europe? UK ranked fourth for having most overweight and obese adults ... According to the study, of all European countries the UK ranks fourth for having the most overweight and obese adults, behind Israel, Malta and Turkey.03.05.2022

[@trudilm3864]

The NHS is top heavy and teetering. To think it can continue is unrealistic to say the least. But lets not get caught up in blaming pet hates. The government would love that.

[@Theyellowandtheblue]

So long as people who smoke, drink, do drugs, cause themself harm by doing something silly, cause car crash through negligence and the list goes on, all pay for care aswel

[@johnsmith-lb4mo]

it's just as dangerous to cross the road, so should EVERYONE that gets injured in the streets pay for medical?

[@Lianna-56]

Yes

[@larssonnsx]

The women speaks total sense!

[@ThechampionfitnessMoz]

Watching form Mozambique (Africa).

[@ckjhh]

This is bs; I’m of a lower income, with a family of overweight people and I choose to eat well and exercise hence I’m not overweight. This a mental health crisis not a physical health crisis; people are upset, they eat; they put on weight and get more upset (it’s a positive feedback) what you need to do is learn what foods are healthy; a society filled with drugs isn’t healthy. Look up how autoimmune diseases, mental health disorders and anti-bacterial resistance in bacteria have all increased due to our necessary use of drugs; change peoples minds helps the long term changing your body is only a short term fix. How has society got it so flipped now idk.

[@kolo83]

it is absurd that people cannot take responsibility for what they put in their mouth…. Exercise and healthy eating is much better than a drug… Hiding behind social conditions is false and ridiculous…. I kno many social housing individuals who are fit and healthy…. And that is due to life conditions…. If anyone tells me they do not have time to cut up some vegetables and open a can of red beans because it is too expensive or takes tooo long clearly needs educating on simple healthy eating