Should you be using 6 Point or 12 Point Sockets?

Should you be using 6-point or 12-point sockets? Let's talk about the different ways they can be used to decide what you might need!
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[@corygriffiths4394]

Like I’ve been telling people it all depends on what you are working on if you are a auto mechanic it is good to have both because some fasteners on vehicle’s is 12 point fasteners most fasteners are 6 point but there are some 12 point fasteners on a vehicle Aircraft mechanics mostly use 12 point sockets because Jets mostly have 12 point fasteners so it just depends on what you’re doing.

[@WesternEquipment]

This is exactly right!

[@estegueydijo....]

The 12pt mostly makes sense on non "ratchet" wrenches for the hard to reach spaces and swing room (of course after hacking and engineering a way to break a seized bolt loose with a 6pt), with a 6pt ratchet wrench you can always rotate it to find the perfect fit, while a normal 6pt wrench is more difficult to find the perfect fit. 12pt on sockets doesn't make much sense bc you can always find the perfect fit with a 6pt socket on a ratchet.

[@carbonsteelbladetheorigina7993]

12 point = Strip City Baby!

[@stevew3978]

That's true, but it's only because 12-pt sockets are not designed to be used on 6-pt head fasteners. 12-pt sockets are designed to be used on 12-pt fastener heads. Using a 12-pt socket on a 6-pt head fastener is misusing the 12-pt socket.

[@joevandamm]

Nicely done, good advice and comparison. I personally would use a high quality set of 12 point cr-v for most applications by hand and 6 point cr-mo for impact tools.

[@WesternEquipment]

Nice and thanks for watching the video and the feedback.

[@aurimasmaldzius5345]

What i also found that sometimes: if lets say a 12mm hex bold is corroded and spins inside the 12mm 6 point socket, you might be able to hammer on a 11mm 12 point socket and get that bold loose.

[@seandshelton9109]

Thank you for the education.

[@WesternEquipment]

No problem! Thank you for watching!

[@yougetagoldstar]

You explained this better than the clerk at my local hardware store. Now I understand why 12 point sockets exist (though I don't understand why all bolt heads aren't the same shape 🤔)

[@WesternEquipment]

Well I’m glad I could help to clear things up!

[@keithnavarro2930]

I have several sets of 8 point sockets. Other odd sockets, too. But, I've been turning wrenches since the mid 1960's.

[@WesternEquipment]

Interesting! Thanks for watching!

[@corygriffiths4394]

I didn’t even know there was such thing as a 8 point socket

[@Smokeyfilms_]

My guy thank you so much! I thought I was doomed getting 12 point sockets but now I can just be quicker cuz many don’t require huge torques.

[@WesternEquipment]

Glad I could help and thanks for watching!

[@jimaronson2323]

Great info. Learned something new.

[@WesternEquipment]

Thank you and thanks for watching!

[@vincentvanpaepeghem4844]

Great video Brent! Lots of great information. I have used both, 6 point, and 12 point! Thanks for sharing! Have a great and awesome day!

[@WesternEquipment]

Thanks Vincent and thanks for watching!

[@edmundr4134]

You said if you were in a situation where you had to remove a lot of square headed bolts the 12pt would be beneficial. What if you only had a few square headed bolts?

[@WesternEquipment]

Then I guess it would still be beneficial to have 12 point haha! Bad wording on my part, Good catch and thanks for watching!

[@edmundr4134]

@@WesternEquipment just jokin around, glad you didn't take it too seriously hahahah

[@NYa-mo7se]

Do you want to round nut and bolts off or don’t you.

[@richardlbn1]

good job

[@WesternEquipment]

Thank you!

[@jerseyjim9092]

Unfortunately, we need both. Just like we still need SAE and Metric.

[@andrewlewis5251]

Awesome vid cool shop

[@WesternEquipment]

Thank you! Was the video helpful?

[@ibuprofen303]

Are 12 point spark plug sockets ok for spark plugs at about 20nm or should i buy a six point one (I already have a twelve point one in my socket set).

[@WesternEquipment]

It should be fine for no more torque than should be on a spark plug.

[@ibuprofen303]

@@WesternEquipment Cheers.

[@stevew3978]

Before addressing the respective advantages/disadvantages of 6-pt. vs.12-pt sockets, it's more important to first discuss the advantages of 6-pt. vs. 12-pt fastener heads. A 12-pt fastener head/12-pt. socket combination provides more contact surface area and contact points than a 6-pt fastener head/6-pt socket combination. A 12-pt fastener/socket combination can withstand more torque and causes less chance of rounding the fastener head than a 6-pt fastener/socket combo. Matching the socket to the fastener head is more important than making generalized statements about the different advantages/disadvantages of 6-pt. vs.12-pt. sockets.

[@WesternEquipment]

I don't disagree at all. This video was more to explain why there are two different types which I feel like was covered pretty well, or do you not think so?

[@IDIturboDiesel]

There's 8 point socket for square bolts and nuts, much better than using 12 point sockets on square bolts.

[@WesternEquipment]

I guess I wasn’t even aware of that. Thanks for the comment!

[@BellaRocko]

those are also called double square@@WesternEquipment

[@country_boy9180]

They are extremely common for pole line hardware. Since most small square heads nuts are crap, the sockets are worth having even if rarely used. They contact all four corners of the bolt vs an open end wrench. Square head set screws are hardened, and do fine with 12 point or open end wrenches.

[@deanscherer687]

8 point socket is for square headed bolts and nuts

[@WesternEquipment]

Yes, definitely can be!

[@RobinYee-xc9vf]

12 point are cute , limited of bolts, in other countries.6 points are world's great...small littles of sizes , for toys ,up to the cars of bolts...6 points are better . powerful.than 12 point

[@WesternEquipment]

I think there is some truth to this.

[@duggydo]

There are several things you said that are pure conjecture and just wrong. Both sockets have the same minimum thickness at the point. The failure will be on the weakest part and each have that the same minimum thickness. You also said that the 6 point lessens the chance of slippage exponentially. There is no exponential relationship at all about what you said. You should do some testing to show the actual differences instead of just talking about things without verification. Anyone who has watched other channels do actual testing know better.

[@WesternEquipment]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@farminindiana7590]

On smaller fasteners its definitely easier to round off with a 12 point vs 6 point. Apparently that guy hasn’t done much wrenching lol

[@user-xt6tw4fr4w]

Tell me you don't do any work with tools, without telling me you don't do any work with tools.

[@duggydo]

@@user-xt6tw4fr4w I don't owe anything, but I don't mind giving charity to the poor. AvE has a video on it. Look it up. Since you obviously know it all, you won't watch it though.

[@davidnguyen2343]

They did a test on this on torque test channel. And intact 12 does slip off easier than 6. If you have high grade bolts, then it doesn't really matter. But low grade or smaller bolts and that 12 is slipping.

[@31acruz]

So why would anybody want to use a 12 pt socket then?

[@TheOnlySgtRock]

Also known as, "How to turn a one minute video into 7 minutes".

[@iamasmurf1122]

This is rubbish 6 point sockets work on 12 points

[@WesternEquipment]

??

[@iamasmurf1122]

@@WesternEquipment what’s hard for you to understand ; I’m an Automotive technician and have undone 12 point bolts with 6 point sockets are you challenged or something ? Ohhh wait that’s right you are american say no more

[@SimpleGr33n]

Uhhh if you hit it on with a hammer....

[@FUEGO343]

hi! What if we end up with a screw with 5 sides? If it enters the 12 point one?