Should you buy the Tesla Model S Plaid or Model S Long Range?

[@walkerb1734]

I personally own the long range version. As a point of disclosure, I had the money to buy the Plaid if I so chose. But honestly, it just wasn’t worth it to me. The LR is fast enough for me as is. The Plaid is certainly faster. But for me it was past the point of diminishing returns. I have been so happy with my LR. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned.

[@squaredawayeveryday]

LR or Plaid, there's no doubt the new Model S is a terrific car; and for most people the LR is certainly the better buy.

[@justinalexander5024]

30-40k for a 1 second reduction in 0-60 wasn't worth it for me. I value the extra range much more. On top of that I keep my model s on sport mode so I would never make use of the plaid's speed.

[@escape_europe_official]

if it possible to play STEAM on the LR? Or only Plaid?

[@walkerb1734]

@@escape_europe_official What is STEAM?

[@escape_europe_official]

@@walkerb1734 ah sorry. Its a gaming plattform- now on tesla. I see this on every plaid model.

[@mholmes9262]

Model S LR 1/4 mile is 10.7 at 128-130 which is already in league with many supercars. I have a '22 M3P right now and just drove the SLR today. I found it to be every bit as fun to drive as my 3P, with more luxury and space to stretch out. I loved it. I'll buy the S at some point in the near future but I'm not sure if I'll go for the Plaid or just get the LR. My M3P is still plenty fast to put a smile on my face every time I drive it, and it's already quicker than nearly everything on the road. I'm not taking it to a drag strip, I drive around town and the occasional short road trip.

[@jasonsplace1906]

The long range is significantly faster than model 3 performance past 60. 670hp, I’ve run 10.82 at the strip, yes has aluminum pedals on it as well. Body width is the same.

[@weih723]

under 11s wow!

[@mustangdaddy4125]

Was that time on 19 inch wheels?

[@karlowens1086]

Good question ​@@mustangdaddy4125

[@rudy1380]

Good, practical video. Appreciate it. Had my Y Perf for a few months. Already saving for the S LR.

[@yecombinator]

I have a Plaid but would rather just get the Long Range if I wasn't impatient. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere you really can't use that 1020 hp on city or suburban roads. You'll have to baby it if you're at stop lights because gapping everyone feels rude for how powerful it is

[@zer0skillz725]

Also the brakes are pretty bad for how fast this car is

[@JetFire9]

@@zer0skillz725 Tesla has a 20K solution for that.

[@rayshepherd2479]

​@@zer0skillz725The brakes on the Plaid appear to be fine unless you're tracking the car. Car and Driver did a test of cars 0-150-0. The quickest ICE was a Porsche 911 Turbo S at 29.3 seconds. 13.5 seconds to 150 and 5.4 back to zero. A Tesla Model S plaid on stock 19 inch tires did it in 16.2 seconds. 9.7 to 150 and 6.5 to zero. A Lucid air Sapphire did it in 15.5 seconds. 8.8 to 150 and 6.7 back to zero. Based on this it appears the Tesla braked quicker than the Lucid from 150 mph.

[@ranyshawket9253]

lol 😂

[@vurtualboy]

I've been considering this. I think there's that raw desire to have the best version of something that pulls at us to buy the plaid, but honestly I think as you said, and I'd go even further not only is it not really worth it for 98% of drivers, but probably a waste of money. I've never been on a track, and I'm not really sure I'm going to change that anytime soon, so I think the plaid is just unnecessary at that point. I never really liked the wood look inside cars myself, so the only thing that annoys me is since the plaid came out, they took out the carbon fiber option and made it plaid only.

[@JetFire9]

Need a follow up on whether Plaid is worth the now $20K difference. Big improvement from $30K. And you can spend another $20K and get the carbon brake kit from Tesla, so that's a new factor too.

[@wesleywalls7582]

I have a 2022 MSLR and have ZERO regrets. The Plaid is certainly an awesome option, but 670 HP delivered with absolute instant torque is already ridiculously powerful and quicker than 99% of every other car on the road.

[@harieg3206]

This is such a well detailed video. We need more like this. We need unfiltered opinions from actual car owners, without them having to be held accountable for decisions people take (or the creators being afraid of being wrong to some extent). It’s a gd KZbin video for God’s sake, not a professional review.

[@leroyrodrigues4885]

I have a Plaid now, but before I that I had a Model 3 Performance and the Model 3 was a little better around corners but the Plaid is also fairly good also around corners but in a straight line that Plaid is just euphoric and power distribution is nonstop compared to the Model 3 Performance which loses steam after around 80 mph

[@derrickd5]

Long range is listed at 670 HP. Also tested at the track and it was in the higher 10s quarter mile from members on the Tmc forum

[@vilo3454]

model 3 performance is still slower than the model S base to the 1/4. The model S base can hit the quarter mile in less than 11sec consistently. The Model 3 performance has issue doing it in less than 11.5 or so. Still very fast but the base model S can hit it in 10.8 or 10.9

[@FredFlintstone21]

The new model s base today is $74,990 vs. $89,990 for the plaid, bringing the diff closer at 15k as they compete with other brands

[@beanheadr]

Thank you for the review! Are you able to compare the model s performance to the plaid?

[@MrFurryface]

I've been in both. and yea the plaid is definitely faster! but is it worth it.. hmmm no not really. The cars pretty identical interior and exterior at this time. IF your down to poop down extra 40k then go nuts. Now if Tesla had tossed in the works with bigger and beefer brakes and some extra plaid interior features then yea..it would possibly justify in me buying a plaid for sure! but in this case no. I just got my Oct 2022 model S LR refresh..Refreshed! an im definitely satisfied!

[@darrenbarlow5759]

Its now down to only a 10K difference. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do 😳

[@MrFurryface]

@@darrenbarlow5759 damm that sucks :/ I know the price is more reasonable now! Bless that price drop ive been waiting for!! not too shabby. picking up a brand new PLAID !! If any thing trade yours in get a 2023 refreshed refreshed refreshed plaid lol

[@Rockyrodents]

Can you buy the carbon fiber spoiler and interior For the lr?

[@mustangdaddy4125]

10.61 to 10.9 for the long range refresh is what I have seen. Brooks from drag times was getting high 10’s at 128 to 129.27 miles per hour. That’s pretty fast for a long range refresh!😊both long range and plaid are the same size and dimensions. Look fellas, a high 10 second car is going to be quicker than most high powered ice cars on the street! Save your money go long range and invest the difference.😊none of my 8 mustangs could touch a long range refresh ( the mighty 04 cobra, 2012 Boss 302, and 2017 great sounding Gt 350) just to name a few.

[@foam27]

Wise man ;)

[@renattosilva5834]

Now that’s it only $20k more is it worth it?? Resale 3-5 years hold up?? Thanks

[@chrisdrury2137]

I do not care so much about the ultra fast speed of the Plaid but one key difference to me is that the Plaid does come with the awesome black carbon fiber interior while the Long Range S does not.

[@Rockyrodents]

Can you buy the carbon accesories For the s long range?

[@colin_henry1]

Quick note… the plaid with the 19 inch wheels brings the plaid up to 395 mile range. Yes, it does lower the power a little, but it seems like a good tradeoff

[@mholmes9262]

Smaller rims do the opposite, actually. It lowers the top speed, but the acceleration should be measurably (though probably not perceptible) quicker.

[@Chris15232]

What about used? The difference would be usually only 10k plus / minus.

[@JDCNY1]

I just bought the Plaid. Giving up my 3P. I would buy another 3P over the SLR at its more fun to drive. Can't imagine not getting the Plaid

[@Yachtzeee]

The Plaid is really known for its high speed acceleration. Does the LR still pull as hard in the high speed as it does in the low speed? My Plaid above 60 almost pulls harder than it does below 60. The M3P tends to start running out of steam above 100. I could not find a definitive answer regarding acceleration on the LR above 100.

[@shrimplyfantastic]

I can’t say for sure since I haven’t driven the plaid, but the LR really pulls hard from 60 and up. Not as much as the plaid, I think its 60-120 mph time is something like. 8 seconds or so, compared to the plaid at like, 4 seconds. But it’s more than enough in my opinion

[@AthletismeQc]

m3p runs 11.5s mS will run 10.8s theres your answer

[@nyberry6079]

60-130 in long range is in the 7.5s range. Compare that to 12.0s plus for performance model 3 and the P100d was only 9.5s range. For reference this is similar to a hellcat red eye with 800 hp for 60-130. I would say that speaks volumes for the car and the 0-60 is a bit neutered

[@mebeingU2]

@@nyberry6079, I know they won’t do it, but it would be nice if they unlocked a little more 0 - 60 on the long range…that would help it in the 1/4 mile, too.

[@jguygytttuh]

Has the build quality gotten any better? I have been looking at the Plaid, but so many videos and forums showing issues has put that purchase on hold

[@gentleman0678]

Same here. Love the company and what they are doing, but the build quality issues are across the the entire range of cars. I’ve seen some delivered in great condition and others leave me scratching my head. I would love some consistency in the build quality before i spend that much on the car. Truth be told I really want one, but I’m not willing to gamble.

[@tomhui87]

Just got 22' Model SLR. Some exterior panel gaps are still horrendously big 4-5mm (especially around the hood, fender and trunk. If you can live with that.. go ahead.

[@jguygytttuh]

@@tomhui87 wound up buying the plaid.. worst decision of my life and im married

[@JetFire9]

No, but you need to get over that and focus on the things Tesla does well.

[@jguygytttuh]

@@JetFire9 like drop prices by 15% overnight? Lol. Btw i bought a plaid late 2022

[@Jdeneik]

This was very helpful thank you!

[@temitopeawere]

Gave you a sub bro, nice content . Thanks

[@wynton921]

Is there a different in the sound system / number of speakers? Thank you for the video!

[@Rockyrodents]

X2

[@HabibiGolf]

Did you do the same tire swap as your model y? I'm about to follow your footsteps with the S. The wider tire suggestion for the Y saved my rims. Thanks Btw.

[@muriloninja]

Model S! There is no need to go that fast all the time not to mention the real world impact of Plaid ownership, tire wear is legit and you will go through tires quick so more $$$$. The Model S is violently fast as it is, trust me!

[@ganymede3141]

Recently drove a 2022 S LR with the 21" Arachnid wheels, and although the highway range is supposed to be 387 miles (100% to 0%), I only got 326 miles at normal highway speeds (65-75 mph). So Tesla definitely overinflates its range numbers, in this case by 61 miles. The range numbers they claim are not achievable in real life, not by far. 😕

[@21deangelo]

With the 21 inch wheels you automatically loose 50 miles so the highest you could get was 345 with plaid so 325 isnt bad

[@mebeingU2]

@@21deangelo, true, but he noted he was driving the long range, with the 21” wheels. I think 84% of Tesla’s EPA number at 70 MPH isn’ t bad. I have a ‘23 LR Model S. We’ll road trip this fall. We’ll see how far we get on 100%.

[@21deangelo]

@@mebeingU2 I have a 2022 long range with the 19inch rims it gets 390 miles on a full charge

[@mebeingU2]

@@21deangelo , thanks 21D. Is that based on your driving experience? Highway driving at 70 MPH? Again, I haven’t road-tripped mine yet.

[@wesleywalls7582]

No one ever gets EPA range on ICE vehicles either.

[@joshuacaserta7626]

I have a long range model 3 with the acceleration boost. Im definitely saving up for the plad. Im going all out no reason get the 2nd fastest when you can BE the fastest, lol

[@foam27]

What about now, since it's no longer the fastest production vehicle? (Lucid sapphire)

[@punithpunith]

Very good analysis!

[@johnjohn3241]

I have the M3P and I can say it is definitely slower than the refreshed long range.

[@shonuff8257]

This guy is the Master of reviews. Sho Nuf!

[@squaredawayeveryday]

I don’t know about master, but I appreciate the compliment. Cheers man!

[@FD-ms2nm]

You explained traction control not Torq. V.

[@darrenbarlow5759]

Right now it's only a 10K difference. Do you think it's worth it?

[@squaredawayeveryday]

I do

[@zer0skillz725]

it's around $400 more a month for the plaid vs the long range

[@xyzxyz6406]

Just buy a used plaid and you can get it for less than a new long range.

[@ArctisTheMonk]

now its only 15k

[@saul_bloom]

Idiotic of Tesla to build the Plaid without, at the very least, bigger brakes. Nobody wants to deal with aftermarket nonsense.

[@FD-ms2nm]

Wider than the old model s. period

[@mladen2008]

NOT TRUE !!! Tesla model S Plaid will hit 100km/h in 2.8 seconds. Only with hardware upgrade (tires and brakes) you can count on 2.1 seconds to 100km/h So, you are paying $30K for 0.3 seconds faster than model S LR 🤷🏻‍♂️ BTW, model 3 P can do 100km/h in 3.5 seconds

[@squaredawayeveryday]

You’re incorrect, the plaid needs additional equipment to hit the top speed of 200mph. It can hit 2.1 0-60 on a prepped track as is from Tesla.

[@ChosenMJ]

The Plaid can hit 2.5-2.6 seconds in Plaid mode WITHOUT dragstrip mode activated.

[@TheFirst1278]

If Tesla asked each and everyone one of you which would you rather have between the LR and Plaid, and they say they would give it to you for free…we all know what your answer would be.

[@ChosenMJ]

Wrong bud. You're not as smart as you think you are. 😂😂😂😂

[@BulletSpoung]

Save your money, don't buy either one.

[@ChosenMJ]

I'm sorry. Did you say something? 😂😂😂

[@jizzyjake6783]

I'll go with...neither

[@ganymede3141]

Or should I save myself from setting a $100,000 pile of cash on fire and just keep driving my trusty old Honda? Hmmmm, decisions decisions. Think I'll keep the Honda and $100k.

[@JetFire9]

One day you will have that $100K, but you're going to have to become an alpha male.

[@ganymede3141]

@@JetFire9 'Alpha male'. 😂 What are you, 12? You watch too many Andrew Tate videos. The problem isn't not being able to afford one, it's that I'd rather put my money into an appreciating asset, not one that depreciates faster than it can sink to the bottom of a river.

[@JetFire9]

@@ganymede3141 Grow up and get a good job

[@ganymede3141]

@A W 'You're boring'? You sound like a bratty 19 year old girl who works at Starbucks and spends every penny she earns, lives in a studio apartment but drives a $100,000 car to show her 'status', but is 3 months behind on rent, about to be evicted, and her car about to be repossessed. Later on in life, when 70, you'll be homeless and living in a tent in a downtown alley, standing on the street-corner with a weathered cardboard sign with some scribblings on it to elicit an emotional reaction from complete strangers who will take pity on your haggard looks and toss you a couple of quarters. But it's doubtful you'll even make it to 70. You'll probably die from an ovedose in your late 30's living life in the fast lane, battling depression and anxiety. Have fun with that! 👍

[@itchynackers]

to what end? to buy what with the appreciated assets?