Should You KILL Ajunta Pall? Star Wars: KOTOR

[@DarkLOREDash]

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[@cezarcristian4666]

the invite expired, can u put out another?

[@giovannigio3764]

With the 3 builds to mimic Revan the one based on forcepowers is OP. If you whant a more easy playthrough in the end you need less melee combat because the force is strong in this one.

[@JanPeverell]

What I would give to learn more about the vision Bioware and Obsidian had about Korriban and the ancient Sith back in the day. KOTOR 3 would have been nuts

[@DarkLOREDash]

100 percent agree 😍

[@DarkLOREDash]

Holy shit, no I didn't know that!! Do you have links to them? I am a huge fan of his writing (one of the main reasons I am hyped for Fallen Order)

[@TonyfromTO]

These are the conversations we should be having. I like to post these kind of thoughts in the fb groups.

[@wallamazoo01]

I had hoped it would have been better than the book saying the Exile was a specific person and setting a brick hard narrative that, in my opinion, takes away from the player's choices. I very much enjoyed that you could correct Atton about Revan and set several stages of recurring characters. I was hoping you could do the same in Kotor 3 about the Exile, and give a basic description so if you run into the character, they meet your expectations. I loved how my Good Revan's choices were in the "Revan Male, Good Character" updates and recalled the original game, and likewise, share his return fall to power if he/she was dark. I do know that the third game would do this, and would likely have you invested in the Sith Emperor that Revan was seeking. I personally love how bleak Kotor 2 was, however, it really needed a conclusive game that took you beyond the outer rim. Would have been epic.

[@wallamazoo01]

Adding to this, if Revan was Good, Kreia has some comments as to Revan's choice to convince Pall's return to the Light and be redeemed. You can side with her, or disagree for respective points towards light or dark.

[@passerby5735]

I like how he answered the question of whether or not he was a coward. As if it was a legitimate question and not just an insult.

[@DarkLOREDash]

He is a pretty chatty archeologist nerd... for a Sith 😅

[@MattyIce29]

I love the voice actor here. Sounds like he's doing a Wallace Shawn impression.

[@KoriMasho]

You can also turn Ajunta Pall back to the Light Side. It takes some talking, but it IS possible. And he fades away as his soul finds peace.

[@starlight0313]

So you obliterate the visible spirit either way lmao

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Never tested out Ajunta’s blade, but the silver sword is pretty sweet. It’ll set enemies on fire and they’ll take fire damage over time. Really fun to use on the fish people on Manaan

[@Crafty_Spirit]

That's really dark. Thanks for telling us though where this blade would unfold devastating effects

[@jedimasterren5520]

I’ve played this game so many times and didn’t know that. Thx for the info

[@thestarwarslounge]

3:37 ‘luckily I do have Mission Vao to... fail to disarm the mine’ hahaha great video man I always make sure I go to the Tomb of Ajunta Pall on every play through to explore all the possible options and I think he’s a really Interesting concept of a character as well!

[@DarkLOREDash]

It's my fault for not kitting her better 😥😂

[@lylemoore3827]

I thought at first he was just using her to run into it and detonate it. I do that with characters I don't care about when I don't have anyone around with good demolitions lol

[@masterdarkus1690]

Man, I do miss these games. So much good spoken dialogue and just a great star wars series. Awesome vid!

[@DarkLOREDash]

Right? Cyberpunk2077 & Outerworlds at least will be dope

[@masterdarkus1690]

@@DarkLOREDash Yes I hope so. Both look promising

[@groupie8985]

@@masterdarkus1690 this aged horribly

[@devinwood2713]

In the second game kreia says revan redeemed him so cannonically your supposed to redeem him if you want to be accurate

[@Th3og0ny]

Interesting thing happened in my 2nd playthrough. I didn't put any points into persuade so I couldn't turn Ajunta Pall back to the light. When I went into KOTOR 2, Kreia says that Revan made Ajunta Pall's soul suffer oblivion since he wasn't "saved". So the game subtly knew what choices I made from my KOTOR run. I thought that was kinda cool for 2 old games.

[@zechariahdsiler]

My favorite scene in KOTOR. Great video

[@DarkLOREDash]

Oh fantastic!! Thank you 😁

[@mikes4533]

Excellent video! I love how you showed all the possible dialogue options and actions that could be taken! I'd love to see more!

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thanks mate! Will definitely dig into it! Any requests or RE QUESTS lol

[@Engine33Truck]

It cracks me up that like half the male of the NPCs are voiced by Neelix 😂😂

[@DarkSamus100]

Great video Dash. Korriban is a nice place to have lore. Nice to see the dark side route, since i usually take the light side path. I didn't know that Shaardan could be killed by Uthar. I like to keep the swords even if i don't use them, so i always kill Shaardan (and he gives also exp). It was cool to see the ghost of an ancient sith. I did feel bad for Ajunta Pall and so lead him back to the light side (although Kreia would not approve). I would have like to see maybe some more ghost like Marka Ragnos(because of jedi knight academy). I usually have Carth to complete his personal quest about his son and Juhani for her friend in Korriban, and i think Carth does interact with Ajunta Pall. Have a nice day/night.(depending of the time zone and the moment you read the comment)

[@DarkLOREDash]

Great points! Would love to have Kreia 😊 funnily enough joker bindo & HK interact with him. The only thing omitted from this vidya

[@DarkSamus100]

I did wonder if the other party member could interact with Ajunta Pall, so thanks for the info. I like to have Jolee Bindo and HK-47 for some funny dialogue with the group of sith recruits when you arrive ( they insult the recruits if i remember correctly), then have Carth and Juhani in the sith academy. It would be cool to have all the companion at once, just to see all the interactions they have. Have a nice day/night. ( i like to put this in case if i don't reply and i like to try to be polite, although it might be redundant if i reply a lot)

[@DarkLOREDash]

@@DarkSamus100 nah I love the chats! Best thing bout this channel is I don't miss (usually) the comments 😍

[@Crafty_Spirit]

@@DarkSamus100 Thanks for the advice 👌🏼

[@austin3872]

Great video from my favorite game of all time. Kotor is what brought my Into the star wars expand universe (or Disney legends whatever) as a kid and it's awesome to see I full in depth examination of something that went way over my head at the time considering I picked a sword at random and ended up fighting him and never gave it a second thought till now.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thanks man, yeah the devs put a lot of love into branching outcomes!

[@nathanielwestermann]

I'm loving this channel, man.

[@delarkaBCN]

Ajunta appalled, Iamright? Korriban blues is the real thing.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Haha Korriban blues is a great jazz album name

[@juliangiangrande7353]

More like korriban reds

[@ifallintofantasy]

i always try to turn the ghost to the light I win approval of my team members and I give the sith the wrong sword and kill two birds with one stone. its bests results. great video

[@TonyfromTO]

That wasnt a failed average mine, mission, the AI, ran into it...

[@rafenord2]

I recognized your voice in a lengthy review of Kotor where you voiced the chatting Sith Troopers before they got electrocuted on the Endar Spire. It was really funny! They all sounded exactly like Michael Bisping as well.

[@DarkLOREDash]

No way 😳 could you link the vid, please?

[@rafenord2]

@@DarkLOREDash SE Hmm, maybe it wasn't you? It was a pretty good impression of you doing a silly voice in any case (..and of Bisping). Around 7:00 in: Star Wars KOTOR: Bioware's Clunky Masterpiece I misremembered, it was only the comic relief Sith Soldier! I figured you guys would make small collabs ocasionally

[@mattg4705]

Galen lor is vocied by neelix from star trek voyager

[@trentonbates3114]

The voice actor for ajunta paul always gave me chiils

[@DarkLOREDash]

Supreme skills!

[@Longder09]

@@DarkLOREDash I genuielly feel bad for him, never wanted to destroy his soul, and when was younger even to give him hug. Also really good narration as usual.

[@rednecksniper4715]

FYI putting anything into security in KOTOR 1 is a complete waste you can just bash it open and nothing is broken so you’re not losing anything now in KOTOR 2 You WILL break items do security is necessary

[@herosshade2247]

"I've been working on a translation on some of the runes." Wait, that's illegal!

[@Nephalem2002]

I usually try to redeem him. Poor dude has had several hundred years to think about his actions.

[@primrosenight3722]

How about making Korriban Lore vid (both legend and Canon) Hostory, Events took place on there, Things(Structures,...etc) on that planet (I don't know I am afraid I am the only one, on earth, who wants that vid...) Always enjoying your vids!!! Have a Nice Day :)

[@kylecochrane4450]

I did feel sorry for Ajunta Pall who must have spend centuries in his tomb regretting the things he did in life, but after playing through the old republic i wondered if Revan never entered his tomb telling him to go back to the light imagine if the Sith Inquisitor was able to use force walk to bind Ajunta Pall's spirit to themself like he or she did with other spirits

[@kylecochrane4450]

Yes it is true that his sword drove Ajunta Pall and others to madness but you have to remember that in the old republic that blade likely isn't in his tomb anymore or is still in his coffin so it's not impossible to stay the Inquisitor from the old republic storyline could have used force walk on him/herself binding the ancient sith to them like they did with so many other spirits the ability is about bending the spirits will to your own if you want their full power while willing spirits only gives you a fraction of their power

[@mrcthulhu47themad45]

Why be a Ghostbuster when you can be a ghost eater

[@spideyseth]

The best Star Wars game it should get a remake!

[@DarkLOREDash]

Definitely need that remake!!

[@michaelcrawford3663]

Some team of modders were trying to and almost finished then Disney shut them down. Go figure. God forbid Disney let us enjoy a 17 year old game. That would only encourage new people to play.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

You should be careful what you wish for ……..unfortunately.

[@jtsharp6129]

0:43 Dammit Neelix...Where's my Coffee?

[@michaelreich4827]

The archeologist sounds like Gale Bettecher.

[@jjb33083]

The trooper sounds like Star Trek: Voyager cast member "Neelix".

[@LifesGuardian]

I thought I recognized that voice. Ethan Phillips. Voice of Neelix on Star Trek: Voyager!

[@iwakurajpn8704]

why doesI knew the voice for Galon Lor was very familiar. Had to look it up to be sure.

[@DaddyHensei]

I always wondered why we did get a sith uniform while on Koriban. The academy seems to have a dress code.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Oh right. I dunno if I'd want those uniforms 🤣

[@georgemercer402]

I failed to turn Ajunta to the light due to possibly not having enough persuasion

[@Ashehasawienerdog]

that neelix sith was nice

[@Crafty_Spirit]

Hi Dash 🖖🏼 I would love to see you do a video on Sunry's trial at Manaan. Despite two thorough playthroughs, I still don't feel as if I figured out what was really going on there... and what the best outcome of the quest would be... what do you think?

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thats a great idea!

[@joshuastrickland5264]

Your videos are a lot of fun. Do you plan to make a playlist of all of these sort of like a playthrough?

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thank you & yes! I'm just a bit all over the place, unfortunately

[@Gnefitisis]

What I want to know is what happens if you give him the correct sword?

[@10GaugeManiac]

Ghost busting with lightsabers instead of proton packs. That might make an interesting crossover. Watching a whining Anakin Force-ghost getting sucked into a trap would be hilarious.

[@aaron75fy]

think I'll keep it, after all the runaway sith the droid endurance and the sith quiz gained me enough

[@margaretcarley811]

Yes Yes star war's, love it 😀 play it again again 🙌 👏 😀 Thank you so much lore dash

[@merleshand2442]

I usually give it to canderous or zaalbaar or carth because blasters are useless in this game

[@Geraki0n]

I wrote this comment on reddit as well. I'll put it here since said thread is already a day old and probably isn't getting any new eyes, but this comment section will: "Okay, since you asked here's some serious feedback. The production quality is pretty good. To be honest, I'm pleasantly surprised. When I see videos on lore posted to my niche-ish video game subreddits, there's usually a lot wrong with basic things like audio quality. Not so much here, very nice sounding narration. Although another user did mention that the video aspect ratio is stretched, I'm not sure I notice that? But if it is stretched, you should fix it. The video intro is good, but then you go into talking with Galon Lore, and I already dislike how it's handled. If this is a lore summary, why go into a long discussion with a minor character? You can perhaps describe anything essential from Galon Lore, or even show a short clip of him saying "These ruins date back to a period when the Sith were first formed, before their exile to the deep reaches of space... this may well be the tomb of Ajunta paul!... blah blah sword blah blah" (you get the idea). Anything more I think is unnecessary, not to mention that it's a little disjointed to hear you narrating the PC's lines when you also narrate the video. And that critique kind of applies to the rest of the entire video. I just see so much unnecessary stuff to describing Revan's/Ajunta Pall's story. Narrating how Revan opens containers for loot, how mission opens doors, how you attack enemies, etc. I think it would be much stronger if you really kept out anything that's game focused. You can still show/describe the tomb, but don't take any longer than 60 secs on it. Show revan walking the long hallways, opening doors, disarming mines, destroying droids. Anything more is superfluous. The discussion with Ajunta Pall should be the focus of the video. Ideally you should be 2 minutes or less in when you talk with him... not 8. Again, we've got the issue of how Revan's voice shouldn't be the same as the narrator's (yours). You could find a friend to do it, but I'd suggest just cutting out Revan's line and stitching together Ajunta Pall's lines to form a coherent narrative (sidenote: logistically this is helped by KOTOR. To save money, Bioware tried to very frequently have the same response from NPCs work for a variety of player lines in order to save money on VO. To do so, the NPC response often restates the important information, meaning you don't need to hear the PC's side to know what was said). You can include most of his lines, but a few are superfluous (like him describing himself as "ancient"). Cut out the riddle and just show Revan giving the correct sword, and then redeeming Pall, or defeating him. I think you get my critique by now. Cut out as much of the Shaardan conversation as necessary as he's a minor character, show Revan returning the sword for prestige, done. I think a lot of potential viewers will tune out early on in the video after a couple minutes when they see nothing yet of Ajunta Pall, and they see how long the video is overall. I know I did. The issue I have with it is of video style, that's a fundamental that's hard to fix especially from one comment from someone anonymous on the internet. It just feels like you're trying to be both a lore video and a lets play video? It's unique, but it seems like a format that is worse than either. A lore video, which is definitely what I'd advocate for, is much shorter and succinct and focuses on story and not on the gameplay at all. A lets play video would be of similar length but much less edited, and would show the game as the developer intended. While I'm not a fan of Lets Play content for single player games, when they are good it's because they feel like you're on the couch watching a friend play the original thing, the personality of the friend/lets player is paramount to the experience. This crossover style video cuts out the concept of the lets player as a personality entirely. Regardless, your production quality is good and so I think your channel has a lot of potential. Hope this was helpful."

[@DarkLOREDash]

I was just reading it. Thank you so much for taking the time! It's like a dream come true to get in depth feedback 😍

[@Geraki0n]

@@DarkLOREDash Thanks! I didn't realize you had another channel with 300+k subscribers when I wrote that, so you can feel free to disregard any or all of this. You probably know more about video editing/where there's an audience for this format than I do

[@DarkLOREDash]

@@Geraki0n Oh no no no, I am a forever student & love to get ideas & test new things, so, appreciate the time!

[@Geraki0n]

@@DarkLOREDash YW.

[@ApokWow]

24:10 mate i know i said i impressed you tattooed jonny sins, but i aint up for that.

[@FullOedipus]

WHAT? SPEAK UP BOY! I DONE TOLD YA ALREADY MY HEARING AINT WHAT IT USED TO BE NOW SPEAK UP!

[@jedipadwan20]

I kept it an hid like Arjunta Pall asked us to do

[@moonblaze2713]

Woah. How did you get the game into modern aspect ratios?

[@LBTeeh]

24:07 “Very well you have impressed me. I shall now blow y-meditate in front of you”.

[@tylerwalters2205]

Disabling the mine isn't the same as recovering the mine

[@fara.r.8181]

Redeem him, let the first known "Sith" rest in peace

[@mr.flameheart200]

Is it possible to get ajunta pall to tell his oldest secret at all?

[@WeezerFan505]

Help i have been trying to bring him back to the light by load a save and it's very annoying

[@wallamazoo01]

But, but, SHOULD you kill Ajunta Pall or save him? I didn't get your piece opinion, my good man.

[@ddohartaigh9687]

Galen Lor is Neelix 😳

[@christianmino4073]

Is that the voice of Neelix from star trek Voyager

[@mrcthulhu47themad45]

To kill ajunta pall use blasters

[@gc6096]

Cool thanks

[@houseoftoussaint9609]

Ethan Philips!!!

[@johnjenne132]

Um... is that Neelix telling us about Ajunta Pall's sword?

[@dragosradudumitrescu]

A baleful eye dude, not eve...

[@jboy1181]

You can’t kill what’s already dead the sith always return in one for or the other

[@Nick-qf7vt]

He talks about the source of their power, "the dark place". What is he talking about? The Star Forge?

[@lf2208]

Is that guy voiced by fucking NEELIX?

[@sk8rlnk]

Dude the way you narrorate your game play is sick, subscribe.