Should you measure pro golfer success on Majors?

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The Rick Shiels Golf Show

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2 ай бұрын

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@jopo7996
@jopo7996 2 ай бұрын
Rick not training for the marathon and expecting to run an hour faster, is the perfect analogy for us buying a new driver.
@RickShielsGolfShow
@RickShielsGolfShow 2 ай бұрын
hahaha
@johnc5629
@johnc5629 2 ай бұрын
Rick, you could definitely break 4hrs with training. You’d be shocked how much you can improve with consistency
@johnc5629
@johnc5629 2 ай бұрын
Probably like golf, I play a few times a month and wonder why I can break 90
@andrewstewart9383
@andrewstewart9383 2 ай бұрын
Any chance we can have time stamps and subject matters back please 🙏
@Chris54321
@Chris54321 2 ай бұрын
As the OG of KZbin golf, I am surprised that Wesley Bryan's performance wasn't mentioned. I was much more interested in that than RBC or Chevron.
@cledesma135
@cledesma135 2 ай бұрын
Hater lol
@user-qq2mo1ek2r
@user-qq2mo1ek2r 2 ай бұрын
I agree, his performance was brilliant
@4591babolat
@4591babolat 2 ай бұрын
Yes I said the same thing! I watched Corales more than the others. He even shot course record on his way
@steveparrett3832
@steveparrett3832 2 ай бұрын
Qualified road running coach and ex marathon runner (3:15 PB) here. I'll swap you a training plan for you to get under four hours if you can fix my slice. Warning - the training plan requires four runs a week for six months. Warning, six years worth of training wouldn't fix my slice. Let's forget this idea 🤣.
@peter_d_73
@peter_d_73 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree 🤜🤛. Running a marathon or completing a full ironman is easier than fixing my slice.
@callumhogg2701
@callumhogg2701 2 ай бұрын
Bumped into Rick in the starting pen on Sunday right before we got going. Such a genuinely nice bloke and really appreciated him taking the time to have a quick chat and photo with a fan in what can be a stressful time before the race! Great work for a great cause and glad you enjoyed the day as much as I did!
@Wooooosaaaaaa
@Wooooosaaaaaa 2 ай бұрын
16:25 is when it starts ❤
@kennethbnorris
@kennethbnorris 2 ай бұрын
I watched the Masters using the Masters app in its entirety. They had a variety of “channels” you could watch, including the main broadcast (which had commercials), the featured group, and sections of holes (4, 5, & 6, or Amen Corner, etc). This was a much better way to watch compared to the live broadcast which is filled with commercials. Also, it made it easier to see your favorite players.
@Jackielikeskillersmiles
@Jackielikeskillersmiles 2 ай бұрын
The live broadcast is the same on the app as was CBS. So the same commercials were on. No more no less. The app has been set up that way for a couple years now. Welcome to the future 😂😊
@nathanrentschler3471
@nathanrentschler3471 2 ай бұрын
All of golf should have an app just like the masters app. It's awesome!
@andershaukoos
@andershaukoos 2 ай бұрын
Same here. Had featured groups on until the main coverage came on. Then watched exclusively the main coverage (via the app/website), and when a commercial came on I'd switch tabs to featured/amen corner.
@outtakes69
@outtakes69 2 ай бұрын
Also you did not have to listen to Colt Know and Immelman "throwing up" non-stop praise about TW and other players. Nauseating coverage.
@NC-1861
@NC-1861 2 ай бұрын
The app sucked. The main broadcast didn't come on until the CBS main broadcast came on. It should've have been on from the first player teeing off on Thursday, to the last player finishing his last put on 18 on Sunday. It was bullshiit. I missed so much of The Masters because of the way they did the maim broadcast.
@petergibbs4314
@petergibbs4314 2 ай бұрын
I found it a breath of fresh air when Rick suggested recently, somewhat cautiously, that The Old Course wouldn't figure as highly in the Top 100 courses, if not for it's history. When I scrolled through the list I couldn't believe the over representation of links style courses. I say this because, for Australian viewers of this channel Cape Wickham has just superseded Royal Melbourne West as the best course in Australia. It's great news for Tasmanian golf tourism, but in reality these courses are too hard for amateurs, unless you're close to a scratch hcp, and no fun at all. Shoot 30 over your hcp, lose 10 balls in a round in 20 to 50 mph winds. No one is game to say it's a scam and call out the pretentiousness of it all, when for most weekend away amateurs the most enjoyable courses are their local resort courses like the Hunter Valley in the Sydney region or the Gold Coast or Melbourne Outer Metro where Royal Melbourne is. In Sydney the best layout is NSW, but it's coastal wind factor even reduces its playability and fun. Any Greg Norman designed course like The Vintage or Stonecutters Ridge provides great enjoyment, because the Shark gets it, designing challenging yet accessible courses for all levels of players. That's my rant. Thanks.
@jeffcarr9389
@jeffcarr9389 2 ай бұрын
Saw a stat about Scottie vs the average PGA score over the last 5 events he played in. Average score of players who make the cut is -1 and Scottie is -76 for those events. He is a machine!!!! And glad he's from Dallas and making us Texans look good.
@peaceful671
@peaceful671 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant golfer,I am excited to see how far he can take this magnificent run,plus on top of that more importantly he's a nice man ...
@ITh4n4tosI
@ITh4n4tosI 2 ай бұрын
I'm a new golfer and have recently started trying to watch more golf. I saw the LPGA event this weekend but only on the second day and I actually liked it more then pga. It just seemed so much closer and competitive like anyone could have come back
@elliottreuling9976
@elliottreuling9976 2 ай бұрын
What about Wesley Bryan solo 2nd at corales Fellow youtuder
@MRbjr8
@MRbjr8 2 ай бұрын
Shout out to Bryan Bros & Wesley!!
@victormendivil359
@victormendivil359 2 ай бұрын
I agree !!! Great Job Wes !!!
@markcarrington1243
@markcarrington1243 2 ай бұрын
Another crazy stat, Schefflers caddie has earned more prize money on tour this season than Rory…
@outtakes69
@outtakes69 2 ай бұрын
Rory is at career $86m + a jillion bucks from Nike...he's good :)
@Kaddywompous
@Kaddywompous 2 ай бұрын
@@outtakes69Phew…I was concerned.
@alaindurand2979
@alaindurand2979 2 ай бұрын
@@Kaddywompous 🤣
@jamessnyder5390
@jamessnyder5390 2 ай бұрын
My best marathon was the Marine Corps Marathon in Washington, DC in 2012. I was a serious runner at the time, but I finished in 3:56. Under 4 hours is tough. It takes grit and mental toughness, what I call sticktoitiveness. I spent hours and hours training and still hundreds of people beat me. But it's not about that. It's about enjoying the experience. Similar to golf, you want to do your best, you want to be as good as the best, but you won't. Just be you and enjoy it!
@East_Tennessee_Golfer
@East_Tennessee_Golfer 2 ай бұрын
19:55 omg how do you not mention @bryanbrothers Wesley placing 2nd
@kennethmckinney2532
@kennethmckinney2532 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. I watched Wesley as much as possible over the weekend. The content they put out last night from the final two rounds was class...
@jonathanberry9543
@jonathanberry9543 2 ай бұрын
2nd at a B event, not even impressive
@kennethmckinney2532
@kennethmckinney2532 2 ай бұрын
@jonathanberry9543 boy I bet you're fun at parties. For what Wesley has been though it is. Get a life
@East_Tennessee_Golfer
@East_Tennessee_Golfer 2 ай бұрын
@@jonathanberry9543 sipping that haterade!! We all you couldn’t finish 2nd at what you call a B: event! But that’s ur opinion and ur entitled to it!
@vaughnselvey2658
@vaughnselvey2658 2 ай бұрын
When Tiger was so dominant, at the same time, Annika was having the same run at nearly the same pace (like Scottie and Nelly). Another point Bobby Jones held all 4 majors at the same time, as an Amateur.
@davidgraham8058
@davidgraham8058 2 ай бұрын
Jones only ever played in 2 of the majors. His wins in 1930 were the Amateur majors, not the pro ones (except the Open and US Open).
@Unvaccinated69
@Unvaccinated69 Ай бұрын
​@davidgraham8058 the US amateur and the amateur championship were considered majors in his day. The US amateur was still considered a major until only a few decades ago.
@TomasWildViking
@TomasWildViking 2 ай бұрын
It's also worth mentioning that Scottie decided to get a dedicated putting coach, to reinvent his fortunes on the greens. Just switching putter isn't the only reason for his on-green improvements. Well done on finishing the London Marathon, I applaud your dedication to help the cause 🎉🎉🎉
@nigelellis2342
@nigelellis2342 2 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👌 Well done Rick on completing your second London Marathon. What about setting a world record for hitting a golf ball over the distance of a Marathon. Suggested venue could be a racecourses 🎉🎉🎉
@davidgraham8058
@davidgraham8058 2 ай бұрын
At one point the gap between Tiger at World number 1 and Mickelson at number 2 was bigger than the gap between Mickelson and the world number 1,000.
@kennethbnorris
@kennethbnorris 2 ай бұрын
Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Jack Nicklaus, and Pele for me.
@MOE-db8oc
@MOE-db8oc 2 ай бұрын
That a good list. This one greatly depends on how old you are. This list could be different for every decade you have been alive.
@andrewwebb8949
@andrewwebb8949 2 ай бұрын
Mount Rushmore of Sports nominations: Muhammad Ali, Wayne Gretzky, Tiger Woods, Messi, MJ, Micheal Phelps, Tom Brady. Would find it hard to not include Phelps, Gretzky, Messi…
@SimpleFoosball
@SimpleFoosball 2 ай бұрын
Boxing’s too difficult a subject to select an individual in my opinion. Some would argue Sugar Ray Robinson over Ali, I would too. Sir Don Bradman in cricket too, apart from Gretzky no one has dominated a sport statistically like Bradman has
@andrewwebb8949
@andrewwebb8949 2 ай бұрын
@@SimpleFoosball I actually replied on another comment already suggesting Sir Don Bradman, couldn’t agree more that he should be in conversation. I do feel how much Ali impacted boxing as a sport he deserves to be up there. Would also argue that Phelps dominated swimming…
@malgeo318
@malgeo318 2 ай бұрын
in terms of individual domination of their sport its a very difficult conversation but i dont know if i can put Messi or really any footballer in there. There are too many "really good" footballers to say 1 had absolute control. Mine has to be Tiger, Serina, Gretzky, MJ. The only one in that group that could be taken out imo is possibly MJ because some of his stats have been approached but his influence globally for the game of basketball is unapproachable. the others were just so individually dominant that some of their stats will probably never be beaten.
@shakeyfly
@shakeyfly 2 ай бұрын
Pele
@MarkSmithhhh
@MarkSmithhhh 2 ай бұрын
​@@SimpleFoosball other than ali yes but come on, Ali is an easy choice...then it gets muddled...should tyson be there? Mayweather? Sugar ray?
@TMM6944
@TMM6944 2 ай бұрын
Well done done Rick and thank for making me get wet eyes at the beginning of this one. Keep up the good work. Salute to you both.
@dalesmith924
@dalesmith924 2 ай бұрын
If you know golf at all, you can't measure a career only off majors -- too many players have fallen into a major win or two and not had much else to show for their careers. Cut numbers, number of wins, scoring average, and the like are the ways to measure a player's overall career. I'm not a TW fan, but I have to take my hat off to his cut streak -- that is truly impressive.
@boatbuilder781
@boatbuilder781 2 ай бұрын
Rick, you have got to try to run the Boston Marathon! The energy level there is amazing!
@peterbate1842
@peterbate1842 2 ай бұрын
Rory has 3 FedEx cups and I think 4 DP world tour titles plus 4 majors, way more success than Brooks
@bc7013
@bc7013 2 ай бұрын
Tiger Woods has 9 more PGA tour wins. Nicklaus has 3 more major wins and finished top 3 in majors 20 more times than Tiger. That is top 3 for 11 1/2 years of majors compared to Tiger's top 3 for 6 1/2 years. It is all in what you value but the major statistics for Jack win me over more than anything.
@96per58
@96per58 2 ай бұрын
Name one other important statistic Jack tops Tiger in. Tiger owns the world of golf minus one record. Jack holds one record, not the world of golf. Not even close.
@macheesmo3
@macheesmo3 2 ай бұрын
​@@96per58Jack played against Palmer, Watson, Player and Trevino. Tiger's closest rival was Phil. Nicklaus and Hogan are an entire tier above Tiger.
@96per58
@96per58 2 ай бұрын
@@macheesmo3 if Tiger and Jack played at the same time, Jack might have 3 or 4 majors. Truth hurts.
@macheesmo3
@macheesmo3 2 ай бұрын
@@96per58 if Tiger and Jack played at the same time Tiger wouldn't have had any. Truth hurts, don't it boy!
@seanmawson6286
@seanmawson6286 2 ай бұрын
Jack's got more Majors end of story
@toddrobinson8876
@toddrobinson8876 2 ай бұрын
I’m gonna go Tiger, Jordan, Ali and “The Great One” Wayne Gretzky. Love the show Rick and Guy and crew.
@JackSFUT
@JackSFUT 2 ай бұрын
Mount Rushmore of sport - Tiger, MJ, Gretzky, Messi
@jasonwastie3505
@jasonwastie3505 2 ай бұрын
FINALLY!!! Been waiting for the pod all day
@RickShielsGolfShow
@RickShielsGolfShow 2 ай бұрын
Enjoy mate!
@stuartellison6895
@stuartellison6895 2 ай бұрын
Donated. Well done Rick
@maxhuss5290
@maxhuss5290 2 ай бұрын
Great timing just finished the last podcast😂
@RickShielsGolfShow
@RickShielsGolfShow 2 ай бұрын
nice one - enjoy!
@terryhierlihy4111
@terryhierlihy4111 2 ай бұрын
Interesting discussion. In North America you would hear names like Wayne Gretzky, Mohammed Ali, Jackie Robinson, Bo Jackson etc.
@Chris54321
@Chris54321 2 ай бұрын
Not saying he was the greatest, but George Foreman being heavy weight champion of the world at 45 years old may be the most incredible accomplishment.
@simon-paulzagt5652
@simon-paulzagt5652 2 ай бұрын
Always great content Guy and Rick!! Pro Challenge idea: Rick uses a ProV1 and the pro uses a old range ball or TopFlite XL2000, saw some in the storage room video.. If the ball is such a difference it will be worth a few shots. I think Scottie needs to use 1 as well to make the PGA tour competitive again.
@ph1lthyvision
@ph1lthyvision 2 ай бұрын
On the LIV subject and their competitiveness, I really missed having Gooch in the running for the masters. Overall, it was a great week of golf and congratulations Scheffler for scoring the win!
@barryb6282
@barryb6282 2 ай бұрын
IMHO, once your win 2 majors we go back to overall career. If overall career is equal then we go back to majors as the tie breaker. So many factors in golf, it just seems unreasonable to only look at majors.
@stooch66
@stooch66 2 ай бұрын
Everyone ignores that the Masters final round last year was on Easter. That HAS to drive up viewership as everyone is gathered together. But, LIV has definitely affected viewership because the average PGA Tour event has fewer big names, so fewer people watch regularly…and then therefore don’t remember to make plans to watch the Masters, etc.
@sma3429
@sma3429 2 ай бұрын
Well done Wesley Bryan 👍
@ryanprobert5635
@ryanprobert5635 2 ай бұрын
Both of those Scotty #1 stats are unbelievable. Great pod fellas!
@shezzasid7386
@shezzasid7386 2 ай бұрын
To your question of is one dominant player better or worse for the sport I would strongly argue that it’s better. Think of Tigers dominance which was around 10 years, now imagine he only won 4 majors and had a similar career to Mcilroy so far and his other 11 majors was shared out between the competition of the time. Would golf as a sport have brought in as many fans as Tiger did in that period… I doubt it
@Tarzisme
@Tarzisme 2 ай бұрын
The RS shoes are actually fire seriously considering a pair
@christaylor4946
@christaylor4946 2 ай бұрын
That video is so hard hitting, what a great charity 😢
@itfitz
@itfitz 2 ай бұрын
Korda's feat is amazing, but don't forget that Tiger had streaks of 7, 6 and 5 tournaments in a row and Byron Nelson had an 11 tournament win streak. Those are truly amazing!
@mloney9772
@mloney9772 2 ай бұрын
My Mt Rushmore of my lifetime: Tiger, Jordan, Messi, Djokovic
@coxyyy8324
@coxyyy8324 2 ай бұрын
Rory V Brooks. Only 1 more major than Rory... But Rory has 16 more PGA tour wins Consistency/Career...no other answer than Rory.
@JRBinder
@JRBinder 2 ай бұрын
Less than 10% of all-time PGA Tour players have won a single tournament. The majors are for sure a huge measuring point, but you can't dismiss a tournament win (or many) as irrelevant.
@remhasta5920
@remhasta5920 2 ай бұрын
Wow a guy that has mainly only played KZbin golf the last 6 months leads 3 rounds of a PGA Tour event and finishes 2nd and that’s not a top 3 weekend moment? Guess you guys missed the fact that American KZbin golf fans where glued to the Tele watching Wesley Bryan compete his butt off.
@simonpenny9671
@simonpenny9671 2 ай бұрын
Ali, Gretzky, Jordan, Tiger
@dennisabbott9692
@dennisabbott9692 2 ай бұрын
Question to Guy and Rick, my grandson who is 14 years old with a handicap of 14 was allowed to enter a weekend adult men’s board competition which he won with a net 66. Second place was an adult off the same handicap came in with a 67. My grandson was not allowed to claim the win and his name was not put on the board because he was a junior. The second placed player won both the prize and had his name put on the board. As you can imagine my grandson was very disappointed and this has led him to become disillusioned with the game. Love to hear your take on this
@MOE-db8oc
@MOE-db8oc 2 ай бұрын
If he is that emotional about what happened, you may want to consider you are( or he is ) pushing too hard. Encourage him to enter junior tournaments so that he doesn’t get messed over. Kick the snot out of those in his peer group for competition and get out there with some good adults for practice rounds so they can push him to be better. It’s a fine balance on how hard to push and not get so fed up that they quit. In any sport.
@hannesplunger669
@hannesplunger669 2 ай бұрын
What Golf Course is on the picture behind Rick?
@jarbird83
@jarbird83 2 ай бұрын
Tiger Woods has absolutely underachieved his potential. No doubt about that. I think he would feel the same way. The injuries were self imposed early on due to Navy Seal training in his off time, and arguably self imposed with the seemingly avoidable car accidents.
@nebula3471
@nebula3471 2 ай бұрын
The debate about Tiger and Jack really isn't that close. Jack has more Majors, yes, but he also won more Masters, more PGA Championships and more US Opens. They are tied with Open Championships. Jack has 19 2nd place finishes in Majors. So in 37 majors he had a top 2 finsh. Tiger only has 7 2nd places finishes. The other defining outlier between the 2 is who did Tiger and Jack have to beat. The only contemporary to Tiger who had more than 4 Majors were Phil, & Brooks Koepka. Jack had Arnold, Watson, Gary, Trevino, Seve and Peter Thompson. Jack may only have 3 more Major wins over Tiger but Jack is by far the best of all time.
@trystandavies2469
@trystandavies2469 2 ай бұрын
If tigers private life was less of a mess and he hadn’t got all those injuries at a fairly young age, there’s no doubt he would’ve passed Jacks 18 majors.
@garylazarus1750
@garylazarus1750 2 ай бұрын
The main thing these guys are omitting is the Ryder Cup. Monty was awesome in the Ryder Cup, and also Monty won the European Order of Merit several times, meaning that he was Europe's best overall player of the 90s. That more than makes up for the fluke major titles by Rich Beem, Y.E. Yang, Shaun Micheel, etc. More interesting comps to Monty are Tom Kite, Tom Weiskopf, and Jim Furyk, each with 1 major and a goodly number of regular Tour wins.
@HugoBuilds
@HugoBuilds 2 ай бұрын
Can you please add the clubhouse podcasts to KZbin? Even with no video, just put a place holder background so I don’t have to switch apps. Thanks!
@geoffw8565
@geoffw8565 2 ай бұрын
Greatest player ever as in control /accuracy / striking ability was quite obviously Hogan by a mile ! 9 Majors despite WW2 intervention and major car accident and subsequent injuries ! Give him todays equipment and a decent putting stroke and he'd win every tournament he played in !
@muza092
@muza092 2 ай бұрын
Love Rick for the Ronaldo take. Good man
@mloney9772
@mloney9772 2 ай бұрын
Majors are like championships in other sports, it’s not the only stat but it is underlined and bold. You either need to lead that stat or be dang close and lead a bunch of others.
@stompingpeak2043
@stompingpeak2043 2 ай бұрын
For me just tour wins/high placements in general are what should be used to categorize pro golfers. Majors are a thing but they dont hold soo much weight that we overlook 99% of the season
@joenand-lal1374
@joenand-lal1374 2 ай бұрын
Dustin Johnson has 2 majors and Rory 4, so based off of that you would say koepka has had a better career than both with his 5…. Yet koepka has 9 pga tour wins with both Rory and DJ having 24 each, both also spending longer as world number 1…. Thoughts?
@skeeteronthewater1568
@skeeteronthewater1568 2 ай бұрын
Facts lol theres no chance I'm saying brooks has a better overall career than either of them. Brooks just happened to be hot at that right time lol it's honestly crazy he only has 9 wins and 5 of them are majors
@chrislehman6845
@chrislehman6845 2 ай бұрын
Wayne Gretzky did more for hockey than any other athlete in their respective sport, Tiger included (in my opinion). Can’t blame Rick and Guy for missing him, but he definitely goes on that Mount Rushmore.
@johngraham2335
@johngraham2335 2 ай бұрын
100% yes.
@duncanbush453
@duncanbush453 2 ай бұрын
Scottie doesn't seem to waste any energy, he just saunters through each tournament. I think that's why he'll sustain his winning. Others seem to expend a lot more energy and emotion in winning. Scottie just kind of shrugs his shoulders, maybe that's why we're struggling to engage with him because we're not getting that energy from him.
@joshdavidson12345
@joshdavidson12345 2 ай бұрын
Phelps, bolt, MJ, Nicklaus, Schumacher. I can be swayed from shumi. But the first 3 are guaranteed!!
@shawntaylor7442
@shawntaylor7442 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely believe Tiger underachieved. His off course nonsense with self imposed injuries cost him a lot. He should have gotten to 100 wins and at least 20 majors
@kennethmckinney2532
@kennethmckinney2532 2 ай бұрын
It's interesting. When he lost that 2009 PGA Championship when leading starting the final round to Y.E Yang and then the drama that happened that Thanksgiving my wife at the time said he would never be the same. I told her she was crazy. She actually was correct
@bc7013
@bc7013 2 ай бұрын
Or that stuff is bi-product of what made him successful.
@ijb4815
@ijb4815 2 ай бұрын
I don't have any sports channels and I watched the Masters via the app.
@harrisonmatteau4843
@harrisonmatteau4843 2 ай бұрын
Since Rick did a collab with Eddie Hall, I think we'd all love one with Ross Edgley where Rick gives him a lesson and Ross teaches rick how to run/workout.
@macheesmo3
@macheesmo3 2 ай бұрын
Bill Russell, Wayne Gretsky, Jack Nicklaus, Ted Williams
@thewi7ard
@thewi7ard 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@craiggregory1292
@craiggregory1292 2 ай бұрын
Scotty does this every year tho, he drops off usually after this point of the season, this is the furthest in the season that hes won, other than last year when he won at the Albany which was December so pretty much this year, be interesting to see if he can carry it on.
@DaringDan
@DaringDan 2 ай бұрын
Tiger and Jack both measured their success by Major wins. By Tiger's own standards he set for himself since he was a child he did not catch Jack. I think Tiger was the better golfer but injury and life choices affected his career. Also, he is Top 3 of the "Most losses" in Ryder Cup history along with Phil and Furyk. It's fine to want to say your favorite of those two is the GOAT, but by Tiger's own criteria he is not.
@troya.crouse8342
@troya.crouse8342 2 ай бұрын
Why are we need reading out emailed questions anymore?
@iestynjames9949
@iestynjames9949 2 ай бұрын
Hi Rick and Guy, in your next podcast can you talk about the KZbin golf tournament where if one of them won they got a tour invite. Would be interested in your thoughts?
@agmadeferit8297
@agmadeferit8297 2 ай бұрын
Shane warne and Sachin Tendulkar could be in the mix for Mt Rushmore.
@zacharycastillo8335
@zacharycastillo8335 2 ай бұрын
They forgot Wayne Gretzky on Mount Rushmore. I don’t watch hockey at all and he’s still #1. That and Michael Phelps could be an option
@zooksmz
@zooksmz Ай бұрын
Guys, where is the clubhouse podcast? I am going insane trying to find it
@pobg
@pobg 2 ай бұрын
Welcome back the the guy charnuck podcast
@vanbalzup6481
@vanbalzup6481 2 ай бұрын
It’s like you been watching my arguments in the youtube comments 🤣
@deangilbert290
@deangilbert290 2 ай бұрын
The elephant in the room not mentioned by Rick or Guy. Scottie is clearly an amazing golfer but can he really be compared to the greatest or even consistent winners on PGA over the last 10 years Not competing week in week out with the half best golfers in the world… No Rahm, Brooks, Bryson, smith etc…
@back2back379
@back2back379 2 ай бұрын
True, but at the same time he just smoked all of them in the Masters rather easily.
@doug8515
@doug8515 2 ай бұрын
@@back2back379 Where was he last year then? Where he'll probably be next year...
@back2back379
@back2back379 2 ай бұрын
@@doug8515 last year he wasn’t as good obviously. He’d been on a streak of playing at a level above everyone else, and then for anyone thinking that it was just against PGA players, he then went out proved that that’s not the case by smoking all the LIV players as well.
@mackenziewhite7979
@mackenziewhite7979 Ай бұрын
Wayne Gretzkey not being on the mount rushmore of sports is crazy
@lewmano7367
@lewmano7367 2 ай бұрын
You missed Wayne Gretzky (Dustin Johnson connection even there for you European boys)… “the great one”. Michael phelps swimmer, lance armstrong etc
@calebl21
@calebl21 2 ай бұрын
Being from the states, my Sports Mount Rushmore would be Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, and Tom Brady. If I could add a 5th it’d be Muhammad Ali
@cledesma135
@cledesma135 2 ай бұрын
Hard for a regular joe like me to be critical on any tour player even amatures. I mean these guys are ballers! A 95 is a good day for me.
@ViperJon
@ViperJon 2 ай бұрын
Wayne Gretzky.
@seanmawson6286
@seanmawson6286 2 ай бұрын
I'm from Australia who the hell is this Wayne bloke
@MOE-db8oc
@MOE-db8oc 2 ай бұрын
Scottie S can elevate golf or bring more to it by being the dominant guy to beat and rooting for the field. This happened often with Tiger. Those that were not Patriots fans tuned in to watch Tom Brady get beat. Didn’t happen very often though.
@SwanXI
@SwanXI 2 ай бұрын
Wesley Bryan?
@aussie5941
@aussie5941 2 ай бұрын
Jack is the best golfer to ever walk the earth. He beat all the Greats of the game, apart from Tiger.
@davidmarson209
@davidmarson209 2 ай бұрын
Rushmore for me. Woods, mohamed Ali, Phil Taylor, Leo Messi. On to have a legacy, surely a grand slam has to be taken into consideration? Rory still chasing a slam and if he completes it he goes above brooks
@the_laybacks
@the_laybacks 2 ай бұрын
When you're comparing the careers of a Lee Westwood to a Rich Beem, it is fair to question which is more important; majors or overall career success. However, in the Jack vs. Tiger comparison, the success in their careers is so very neck-and-neck, that it has to come down to total majors. The end result: Jack is the best.
@reubenarmitage1497
@reubenarmitage1497 2 ай бұрын
Felt like there was a lot of Guy just chatting away on this one, don’t know if it’s because he takes awhile to make his point or what. Anyway not going to stop me listening to the Guy Charnock Golf Podcast…sorry…Rick shiels golf podcast 😂 carry on lads
@stooch66
@stooch66 2 ай бұрын
Winning regular tour events is very cool. It takes a lot to beat 80-100 top players, regardless if the top 10 are there or not. Don’t discount winning PGA and DP Tour events. Winning LIV events means nothing to me because half those guys couldn’t care less how they perform. It is so obvious that those big names have taken their money and have stopped preparing at the level needed to compete. Maybe a Bryson and Cam and a couple others are still putting in the effort because they just love it, but many of the other guys have gotten “fat” and have no incentive to compete on that “tour.” It’s now just a golf weekend with the buddies. The incremental benefit of winning an event is barely anything to many of those guys. Iron sharpens iron.
@ianh2295
@ianh2295 2 ай бұрын
On sports people, you are showing your ages lads, some blasts from the past Jack Nicholas, Carl Lewis (multiple sports), Michael Jordan, Nadia Comaneci, Pele etc
@andershaukoos
@andershaukoos 2 ай бұрын
I think you certainly have to weigh majors heavily on player greatness, but big event wins and just sheer amount of total wins factor in to.
@RyanGoldfishTV
@RyanGoldfishTV 2 ай бұрын
Mount Rushmore: The fact that there is such a debate over Ronaldo/Messi/Maradona/Pele makes me not want to include any of them as none of them are that dominant as they're all so closely fought. I'd probably have to go Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, Tom Brady, Michael Jordan. Honourable mentions for Wayne Gretzky and Sechan Tendulkar. Only reason I can't include them is because I don't think they're as globally watched sports (Before anyone jumps down my throat about Cricket being the 2nd most popular sport, it's there because of the population of India and isn't as globally watched i.e. in as many countries as the other sports included in my rushmore)
@andrew_l1900
@andrew_l1900 2 ай бұрын
Also bradman is the best cricketer not sachin
@RyanGoldfishTV
@RyanGoldfishTV 2 ай бұрын
@@andrew_l1900 I don't even know that name. All I know about cricket is the names of some English players from the past 10-20 years and that everyone who I know that watches it, says Tendulkar is the GOAT.
@andrew_l1900
@andrew_l1900 2 ай бұрын
@@RyanGoldfishTV he’s Australian and he was so good the English gave him a knighthood
@matthewhodge1137
@matthewhodge1137 2 ай бұрын
WAYNE GRETZKY! How can you forget the guys name is actually The Great One!
@JoelSmith-hx8tb
@JoelSmith-hx8tb 2 ай бұрын
My friend who has just started playing golf just this last week only knows Tiger Woods as a golfer. Why that’s great to me is because I can’t name a single sprinter other than Usain Bolt. Just because you participate in the sport, doesn’t mean you know anyone in it and are top participants.
@adrianbriody3277
@adrianbriody3277 2 ай бұрын
Just finished catching up on all previous podcasts and this one has dropped. Great timing that 🏌️
@RickShielsGolfShow
@RickShielsGolfShow 2 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@kramshiron
@kramshiron 2 ай бұрын
Jack is the G.O.A.T.
@azieldaly2965
@azieldaly2965 2 ай бұрын
Jack is miight be the G.O.A.T but Tiger is the GOD of golf.
@rickpeterson7960
@rickpeterson7960 2 ай бұрын
It’s Jack, not Tiger. Look at majors, look at Ryder Cup record, look at major runner ups. Jack was unbelievable in the events people remember.
@azieldaly2965
@azieldaly2965 2 ай бұрын
Look at the performances from Tiger. Nothing can top that. 1997 masters won by 12 shots, US OPEN won by 15 shots, won 4 majors in a row, give me a break.Tiger all the way. The man only slowed down because of his personal life and injuries.
@fergusmailer6205
@fergusmailer6205 2 ай бұрын
Come up with a scoring system to give kudus for majors and other events I.e 5/10 points for a major and 1 for any other event. Leave the “science” up to you guys!
@TheFossburger
@TheFossburger 2 ай бұрын
You can only gauge the player on their impact and recognition... Legacy Woods has it beyond his stats alone, like Rory has or Singh and even Ricky Fowler Ricky obviously doesn't have the stats or wins but has a bigger legacy than Brooks
@jakeleighton2518
@jakeleighton2518 2 ай бұрын
Not sure why the context of the field quality that each number 1 has done it in is never mentioned. The standard of player, and depth of each field is ever increasing as the game improves. What Scottie is doing against this seriously strong field, week in week out is insane.
@jakeleighton2518
@jakeleighton2518 2 ай бұрын
They all played at one of the hardest Masters in recent years?
@jakeleighton2518
@jakeleighton2518 2 ай бұрын
@@Charlie_Nice yeah it is a fair comment when we go through the weaker events. But there has been a string of pretty great fields hasnt there? His results in the marquee events are great. Maybe I am not totally right, I accept that, but he is dominating in strong fields and the context of those fields vs. the past is interesting.
@stuartwmac89
@stuartwmac89 2 ай бұрын
Agree on Mount Rushmore but I'd defo have Ali in there over O'Sullivan and Bolt.
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