Should YOU Pay More? Apple TV 4K vs Fire TV 4k Max

[@avocatobobble]

I had my Firestick 4K Max for a while, they are amazing but they can be slow and full of adverts. The Apple TV 4K is worth it in nearly every way. Think of it this way, an Apple TV box is gonna last 5+ years. That works out to 30 or less a year for a premium device that offers the best user experience in the streaming world. It now supports VPN, which for me was the biggest thing stopping me using ATV. Now, it’s no competition.

[@robnavarro9405]

I firmly believe that the Apple TV 4K is worth it. I used to think that it probably wasn’t, even if you were in the apple ecosystem. However, something about having such a fluid beautiful interface on the TV really changes how you watch. The hdmi arc feature with HomePods is big and my main reason for buying it. And for some reason I feel as though I’m getting a better picture than other streamers, especially utilizing their color calibration feature . I love Roku and I’ve owned Roku tvs and sticks. Still great devices and what I recommend to get started, but Apple TV 4K all the way.

[@kevintorrijos3800]

I used Fire TV for a year and now an Apple TV for some months, Apple TV 4K is superior in image and sound quality and is more intuitive, I love it

[@soulsmouls]

@@kevintorrijos3800 really?

[@dhaneshshastri1]

But is the difference worth the extra money ?? Both can stream best quality without the noticeable difference. Again, anyways its personal choice :)

[@LeesReviews69]

As streaming devices I’ve had from the early days the Xbox 360, PS4, Roku boxes, Firesticks, Chromecasts, a Hisense Roku TV, and even my Xbox Series S and PS5. Last week I bought the Apple TV 4K for the first time, and it’s the best! It’s all Dolby Vision and while the Xbox and PS5 can do it it’s not easy to get to media and not every app is 4K and not all apps support Atmos. My TV apparently has Dolby Vision but the Roku apps on the TV itself doesn’t smh. It’s so easy to get into apps, and it looks and feels awesome. I think it’s the best!

[@guidosbuntewelt2133]

I got both. Sleepingroom Fire-TV Stuck 4k and livingroom the Apple-Rv 4k. My favourite is the Apple-TV 4k. neat presentation, faster and better performance.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Nice you are using both. I am with you about the Apple TV. Thanks for watching.

[@Irishfan168]

Wow! I live in the apple eco system, I phones, I pads, macs, AirPods. Have even had two apples TVs. I use fire sticks for my TVs. Amazon offers a ton more free programming than apple. Has great integration with any add on streaming services I buy through Prime. I love the guide as it integrates all my channels in one place Apple TV has no feature. What really blew me away was your comments that Apple was great for smart home. Amazon completely blows apple out of the water. You see that blue button on the remote ? That gives you Alexa without needing a echo…. The Fire stick also gives you a smart home screen and even links to your security cameras. You should really dive deeper into that stick.

[@stewiegriffin8555]

Same here I’ve always had an iPhone but I have the fire stick for my tv the Apple TV is literally like having an iPhone on your tv screen it’s pointless and the Apple TV remote was annoying the smallest finger rub would move the cursor

[@anguslean4058]

I have both There is no comparison Apple TV 4K is immensely better then the Amazon 4K fire stick I have never ever had any lag with the Apple TV I constantly have to go in to the fire stick cache to clear it out so the stick stops lagging or freezing Apple TV costs a lot more But it’s worth it for the performance.

[@googleuser211]

Fire stick 4k max is $24.99 for Prime members. Right now, this price is showing to me, with same day delivery.

[@MWNS1995]

If you desire audiophile (24 bit audio) music, then the Firestick 4K Max is what you need. Apple TV 4K does not stream it. Moreover, Apple claims Apple Music streams 24 bit audio, but I have been unable to confirm that. My streaming sticks connect to the HDMI ports of an Anthem AVM 70 (preamp). Then the AVM 70 DAC converts the signal to analog and it is sends it to amplifiers and then to my speakers. I have audiophile speakers in my main room and ordinary in-walls in my zone 2. The difference between 16 bit audio (CD quality) and 24 bit audio is striking in both rooms. As I stated above, Apple TV 4K specs do not include 24 bit audio, But Apple claims that the iPhones and iPads can stream it (BTW airplay can not). So I purchased an Apple USB-C to HDMI cable ($69) and connected my iPad to my AVM 70. My iPad said the song was 24 bit, but my AVM 70 (which tells me what signal it receives) said 16 bit. So I am very disappointed that Apple music claims claims 24 bit audio, but I can't listen to it on my audiophile speakers which is very disappointing considering the price of Apple TV 4K. Like an earlier poster I had the Firestick 4K, which I got rid of because it was so slow. The Firestick 4K Max is much faster (no problem loading apps) and Amazon Music has a large inventory of 24 bit audio which sounds awesome. My AVM 70 confirms 24 bit signal. Amazon music for Prime members who have the firestick is only $4.99/month. Also, I tried the Chrome Cast with Google TV 4K stick because chrome cast claims 24 bit audio. I could not confirm 24 bit audio, despite google tech support.

[@stus4561]

Fire Stick 4k Max $39.99 today (3/13/22) and 20% more off with a trade-in (at least for Prime)

[@TerryManitoba]

Coming from a 10-year-old Apple TV - I needed a new one - "obviously"... If I were to only need a new remote I figure the $60 price tag would be well worth it. How can a remote control be so great... 1- quickly open a new app with Siri & button location 2 - new trackpad becomes intuitive very fast - may be too sensitive on occasion 3- having a Mute button on it is well worth it - I use it all the time. & not having to dig up the television remote - 4- the size is just right in the hand - the flat sides (ala iPhone 12) are gold - Very ergonomic. 5- Rechargeable battery - hala 6- Being able to easily use the controls (most used are the mute, volume & pause buttons) without requiring to pick the remote up is also nice (for me 50% of the time) Lots of smaller remotes are not so well designed in that way! After a few more days I end up using all of the buttons in that way & less so the trackpad part. 7 The ability to start and shut down Apple TV * television with one power button is great. I use the power button all the time - it is the only remote I need to use now. 8- the backspace button is concave - makes it easier to find as the other buttons are not. 9- If you are scrolling down on a grid of icons and are not sure which one you are currently on - you just need to highly brush the touchpad and the icon will jiggle as you do so. Fn Brilliant... 10 - Build quality is top knock. For the Apple TV 4K (future proof for newer set & improved resolutions) 32GB- what I like best - in no order 1- Up Next cue. 2- Faster 3- Just better overall 4- Able to lock in playback speed in YT (not able to do that on the old A tv - firestick did not permanently lock it in) 5- TV+ app integration with some other apps One thing I will miss for ease of use (as on the Fire Stick remote) is to be able to simply with a 2 button press (1 long - 1 short) "save to watch later" a video while browsing on KZbin. With Apple, it is way less easy (more miserable - 8 button press) to do. 10 months later for me. I think it works great overall I love having the mute button - game-changer when letter ads run their course. The trackpad is good and I use it a lot - except there ends up being many false actions that occur. The Siri button is used occasionally and the button location is spot on.

[@JosephTallent]

Thanks! You convinced me to get the Apple TV 4K 😂❤

[@man-bagdammit2297]

Got both. FireTV is better for sideloading IPTV apps. AppleTV better for everything else!

[@MikhelBL]

Not really, it doesn't even have WiFi6 like the FireTV Stick 4K Max.

[@xeon2k8]

@@MikhelBL seriously dude wifi 6... you wouldnt notice the difference unless you would be in a starbucks full of people

[@ChrisHolzer]

until *all* apps on the FireTV support refresh rate changing out of the box there is no question that the AppleTV is the better choice. let's hope the switch to Android TV 12 will do the trick as that comes with automatic refresh rate switching.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

That is a good point. Hopefully they see it too.

[@peterwinstonaldredge6927]

Apple guy here. I have the AppleTV 4k on our family room TV and love it. I have Roku Streaming Stick+ on two other TVs and will likely eventually switch them out for AppleTVs instead. They're not as responsive as AppleTV. I do plan to get a couple of HomePod minis to pair with the AppleTV for better sound. That will save me lots of money versus upgrading my hifi system which is not compatible with HDMI. Love your videos! Keep them coming.

[@beazdakid1988]

Apple TV 4K is the best.

[@k3lvin1977]

Same here, I put off getting an Apple TV 4K for years and stuck with Firesticks. The interface on the Apple TV is much more fluid and I also found sound to be better as well. I also have two HomePod minis connected and for their size they do a great job.

[@gracesuarez3154]

I have both and I’ve noticed interruptions (buffering?) with the Fire Stick. Not with Apple TV.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

I hope you are doing well Grace. Thank you for sharing your experience. Buffering is not something I see much on the Apple TV either. Have a great weekend. Happy Holidays.

[@L33john]

I have both. The Apple TV is cleaner and faster. But I actually like all the info the Firestick throws at you on the home page when I’m undecided about what I want to watch. The sound and video on the Apple TV is better though. I have it connected via Ethernet. Plus the Firestick has the ability to get certain apps. I love both but prefer the performance of the Apple TV.

[@bigjun2004]

Definitely a preference thing because I have both, and I love firestick better

[@CraigsTechTalk]

I am with you. Thanks for sharing yours and for watching.

[@psoon04286]

I was using the Apple TV for the longest time until an OS upgrade killed KZbin. Didn’t want to upgrade the hardware as I simply can’t get the new remote to function as intuitively as the ones that I’m currently using and I don’t have 4K tv. Bought both a Chromecast and the Firestick for less than the price of a single new ATV. I’ve have kept both, one on the basement home theater and the other on the living room tv. Have upgraded to 4K and both Chromecast and the Firestick delivers just fine. So, like you said, do I need to get an Apple TV 4K?

[@martyparshall4368]

I have both. I started a Long time ago with Alexa for the price and honestly those devices are much more plentiful and mostly cheaper, HOWEVER, I’ve recently switched. We have always been an apple household so once apple finally caught “more, it all there yet”, with Alexa for smart home ecosystem I made the switch to Apple HomeKit. I bought the AppleTV 4K as my hub and have homebridge on RPi to get most of those devices to HomeKit. I still do not have any homepods and just echo speakers, so again both. I need Ethernet for tv, both Firetv max and Apple TV work “good” over WiFi BUT appletv ALLWAYS works better over Ethernet that fire sticks don’t. I use appletv in main living room and firetv on my projector in basement on 130” screen, it’s right next to my router so works great and I paired two 4th gen Echos with fire stick and they sound fantastic and with tripod mounts on the bottom SUPER easy to hang from my iron beam across my ceiling with two 6$ magnet mounts. Someday plan to go all in with apple but I still only recommend Fire TV and echos to family/friends because they work and are supper cheap compared to apple and since they are not smart home geeks like me and Alexa still knows more than Siri (for now)

[@mace5380]

Some really good info there buddy. I have been an iPhone user since day one back in 2007. I am just now starting to build up my apple echo system this year as I have added Mac mini, iPad, Apple TV 4K, and even bought a apple AirPort Extreme router! I am thinking of going with some cameras next and was even thinking of getting the HomePod mini. I just am not too sure what I would do with it since Siri is terrible. Would you say that it was worth the money buying yours?

[@The96packers]

I have both as well and I really like the fire stick more cause i can watch any new movies

[@Yumisaw]

I have apple tv since 2016 and still working great up to now

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Nice. Glad to hear it going strong.

[@JeffT77]

Great review! I purchased the latest Apple TV 4K. For some reason when I tried AirPlay watching videos from my photos it was laggy. I use my iPhone 13 pro max to AirPlay. So I tried changing the wifi channel and the buffering stopped. But I’m not sure if something is causing an interference, any thoughts? It also sometimes takes a while to play the next video, I have to constantly press the play button. Thank you!

[@Gladiator1972]

I've had 4 Firestick 4K, and eventually after daily use, they glitch and the interface slows down. The WIFI seems to slow down as well. I just had to reset my main one to factory default because I couldn't get over 5mb download.

[@gabrielcornea9119]

What's the difference between apple tv+ seen on apple tv device and apple tv+ seen on a fire stick?

[@rocky54app]

One reason I see is enough to chose Apple TV is Apple customer support. I don't know about Amazon but I'm amazed by Apple Support when you need.

[@agb2819]

I like my ATV 4K because it has excillent iPhone and AirPod integration such as iPhone remote,FaceTime in your TV, and they have a function to find your remote, keyboard function using your phone, etc. in other words, it keeps your ATV and your other Apple devices talking to each other.

[@detroid89]

Thanks for the review. I've owned my fire tv stick (previous generation) for over 3 years and I've got little to complain about it (yes the bloody ads!). It's been the center of my entertainment system and I will continue to buy them. I'm making the switch over to the fire tv 4k max and will be moving the old one into the guest room. :)

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Very cool. Glad to hear it has worked out for you. I mainly use my Apple TV’s. But I have not heard any complaints from my family members that use Fire TV Sticks regularly. Thanks for watching

[@Frank_42]

I'm surprised you didn't mention that out of the box Apple TV has no internet browser. You can only get one through a hack where you need to plug in your laptop and mess around with third party software. Having a browser is a big deal if the website where you watch videos doesn't have a good TV app or any at all. Fire Sticks can use any browser including the native one and can side load any Android app without any form of jailbreak right on the device. The only benefit I had with an older Apple TV was that I could use it seamlessly to mirror my Macbook Pro. The Fire TV's mirroring was a bit sluggish, but I don't have the latest version.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thanks for sharing Frank that is good to hear your perspective. For me I have never thought about a browser. They never existed on them when I started using them in 2011. I have had no use and have never thought about wanting a browser. That is why I didn’t mention it. The services I have used have works. But that is good info for people to consider if they may want that flexibility. Thanks for watching.

[@nickpanzeca7640]

Another great video Craig!!

[@Alex-cs9ty]

Great video as ever, Craig! We replaced our Fire TV Stick 4K with the newest Apple TV 4K as it was a Christmas present from my parents, and honestly I’d pay the £169 for it all over again. Probably my favourite piece of tech I own.

[@deman19901]

My apple TVs are basically paperweights. The OS sucks. It doesn't integrate your paid services in live devices into the OS. Too limited and inefficient.

[@johnnygoni7402]

@@deman19901 are you selling them??

[@jaycraig674]

Can I cast air play with a fire stick

[@MrJames_1]

You missed three huge Apple TV benefits IMO. 1⃣Apple Photos look GREAT on your big screen TV, 2⃣play your music through the ATV and now with in-time lyrics and 3⃣the incredibly stunning aerial screensavers. The underwater screensavers (for example) running with some chill music is a great way to relax. Cheers from me here in Oz 👍😀. EDIT? - and they make a great wedding gift. All those guest shared photos and videos will look great on the couple's big-screen TV.

[@bdemanttt]

Lmao I’m paying 70$ more for screensavers 😂😂😂

[@edwardfletcher7790]

I'm super happy with my FireTV sticks ! They're SO much better than a Chromecast. They even do Bluetooth headphones & keyboard. I got them half price on Black Friday too 👍

[@matttonkin9372]

I own the fire stick

[@JoeValletta]

Great review. To the point and realistic. Earned a like and follow 👍.

[@kdzayac]

I have both Amazon 4K and Apple TV. I have found some apps allow more on Amazon or the same on the Apple TV. If I was to re-buy I’d probably go Amazon.

[@stewartpritchard538]

Apple TV all day long, It’s only let down is lack of VPN support but that can be sorted out by using a router with the VPN software on it which is easy to do

[@CraigsTechTalk]

I am with you on Apple TV. It would be nice if there was VPN support.

[@MarcosDanielMorais]

I use one at my friend's house, I had a Chromecast 4k with Google TV, and I used WebOS on my LG CX, and now I have an Apple TV 4k (2021), except for the price, it's the best equipment so far, it's far from perfect, but for my needs, it's much better than others, and I don't even have an iPhone.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you for sharing your experience Marcos. Not having an iPhone and liking it the best says a lot about the Apple TV. Thanks for watching.

[@zstork]

I own both. I prefer the Apple TV because in addition I have 3 iPads, IPhone 11, Apple Watch, 2 Home pod minis, AirPods, and AirTags.

[@xeon2k8]

totally legit reason to justify the apple tv lol

[@deman19901]

@@xeon2k8 Not really,Apple TV sucks and I have to of them,as well as an iPad pro,MacBook air Intel,MacBook Pro M1,13 pro max etc. The apple tV is the weakest link right after the iPad pro. Nothing really wrong with the iPad,I just rarely use it.

[@xeon2k8]

@@deman19901 it was ironic in case i need to clarify it. Indeed Apple tv sucks.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Hey Zstork, good to see you in the comments. I am totally with you. The integration with the other Apple devices is great. Especially the up next section.

[@marcw201]

I also use both. Normally use the new firestick 4K max for streaming but….I keep having constant buffering issues with the firestick while watching Paramount + I switched to the 2017 Apple TV 4K (hate the remote btw) and the buffering issues went away. Internet speed is 10mbps or faster. Same TV, same distance to WiFi router. Any ideas?

[@CraigsTechTalk]

I have found that the Apple TV’s, with their crappy remotes, have always just performed better. My theory is the hardware and I think developers focus on Apple TV and maybe even to held a higher app standard. But like you, certain services are just better on Apple TV. Thanks for watching And sharing.

[@jamesmonahan7872]

Been using Apple TV for years now. Have all four TV's hooked up. I recently moved and used a fire tv as the apple tv's were still hidden in a box. And like stated, the fire tv got the job done but I did notice was not as smooth, I did miss the up next feature and how all of my content was all in one place. I feel it is worth the extra dollars for the Apple TV. Thanks for the great videos

[@lasongablackwell6535]

I just got my fire stick 4k max today I had tonup I still had the fire stick 3gen

[@tmitchable]

yeah, my old apple tv wear out, and I plan to invest in a new 4K Apple TV soon when I got some jump chance leftover from my gas tank ...Thanks for your review

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you very much. The Apple TV 4K is a great device. Good luck on getting the new one. Thanks for watching.

[@henrycanton4986]

How do you get the home app icon on your Apple TV when you hold down the home button? And what cameras are you using that are linked to home app?

[@MagiMystik]

I just got a new fire tv cube and I'm finding it works very well. "I also have and do use a Mac"

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Very cool. Glad to hear it is working well. The fire TV cube is a great little device. A nice blend of Fire TV and Echo.

[@wuchi2304]

So when you have an iPhone what would you buy? We use a lot to watch our Fotos and videos on a big screen.

[@xeon2k8]

you can still use the fire stick then install AirScreen app and you can airplay to it.

[@eric-rounds]

Apple TV. You get EVERYTHING. Fitness, Arcade, and all those iTunes purchases from your digital history AND Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, etc. Siri also works as a controllers for Apple TV. And you can use your iPhone or iPad to control it too.

[@RobGuditus]

I have owned them all and no body has the same picture quality as an apple Tv and the newest version is Awesome.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

I have to agree with you Rob. I think you get what you pay for.

[@vinhennessy3885]

Over the years, I purchased both, but prefer Amazon because I’m a Prime User.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

That’s great you have used both to know the differences.

[@imperfectxennial3008]

I own the first generation Apple TV 4K

[@Toastbrot-exe]

i have 4 Apple tv 4k and the Clearness from the Menu and apps its so nice. i have a Phillips 4K TV with Android and its SO ultra Bad and Slow so i Stick for ever on Apple because we have all from Apple to show picture or movies so easy from iphone on apple tv..

[@JhonPaulDelaCruz]

Hi Craig, with apple tv, is it possible to run all together a pair of homepods + integrated speakers or another speaker with Bluetooth or connected with aux on the tv?

[@richardrozon2551]

It would be nice if you did a comparaison of IPTV for Apple TV 4K. You could compare ISTB, IPLAY tv, GSE smart tv pro.. Lots of information for android on IPTV but not Apple TV. Thanks and keep up the great work!

[@joeremixofficial]

I use ginoiptv and it is amazing. $5 usd can not beat it.

[@unclejerm7692]

I originally had a firestick 4K due to the lower price but after inappropriate ads were showing on the FireStick with the kiddos watching it was the last straw. I unplugged my Firestick and replaced it with a ATV 4K and couldn't be happier. Now having had both, ATV 4K is worth the extra money. Your getting a much faster UI, no advertising, a HomeKit hub, Superfast Ethernet & Wifi6. Sure they both support the same video formats but the ATV 4K just seems to look much better on the same screen for some reason. Its interface is perfectly smooth, fast and beautiful. If grandma just needs a streamer the firestick is fine - she just have to live with the ads.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you for sharing your experience as someone who has used both. That is great for others to hear. I am sorry to hear the ads were too much. I think you nailed it with your assessment of Apple TV.

[@nickskep]

One big difference is that Apple TV correctly displays 24p format for movies on all the apps. Fire tv has the option however most developers don’t use it.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

That is good to know. Thanks for sharing and watching.

[@johnheff7227]

Over the years I have moved away from Amazon FireTV products to Apple TV 1080p and several 4k units on tv’s whose streaming interfaces have not kept up. You omitted discussing the Apple :4k TV has an Ethernet port. This is really the best way to get the best streaming experience. Period. The Amazon Fire TV are glitchy and I had several error out doing updates…. With my dedicated Media Room the Apple 4k TV works well with my Denon receiver and TV monitor. Once you get every device working in harmony, you can operate the entire system from one remote. Enjoy!

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree with everything you say. It is the best streaming device in my opinion. I had not thought about Ethernet because of how they have worked over wireless. Hardwiring had been a bonus. I am with you on the receiver (Onkyo), Apple TV and TV setup. The one remote is so nice. Thanks for watching.

[@mcardenas23]

How does the Apple tv pair/work with AirPods vs firestick and AirPods? If I login to Netflix on one Apple TV will i automatically be logged in in the other Apple TVs at home? Can the fire TVs do that?

[@AllenSchoepflin]

I already own the fire tv stick 4k max

[@Jeff-s3m]

Question I think u can watch 4 games on apple but not on fire stick but I don't have fire stick 4k just 3rd generation so let me know

[@sudipto.sarkar]

What u think about dolby atmos performance? Apple tv or fire tv. Which is best for dolby atmos?

[@happychappy2014]

I would think they should be identical, in theory both should just pass the digital audio data stream to the audio return channel via HDMI and or to sound processor in TV.

[@anthonyclements6020]

I had an apple tv device which could stream video through my Marantz surround processor to a JVC RS 500 projector. Due to Apple ending support for youtube I tried to replace the original device with a gen 1 apple 4k TV. I could not get video from the new device to the projector even in 1080p mode unless I left the power on to another tv which is connected to the system. Since the new Apple 4k does not have a digital audio output I had no option of running HDMI directly to the projector. Apple told me to verify I had a proper HDMI cable and to "check for compatibility" despite the old Apple device working and the new Apple device not working. I was able to fix the problem. A Roku 4k streamer works just fine using the same cabling that was in place with the non-working Apple tv 4k. I have tested only 1080P so far.

[@NewAgeDIY]

Good review. We have a large family with two adult children and their kids so we end up having people watching a lot of movies Have a streaming device attached to every TV can end up costing a lot. We only have a one Apple TV, but everywhere else it’s a Fire Tv. It’s getting hard to keep up with new technologies. But with “ How to” shows like your KZbin channel it’s very helpful finding out about new stuff. Thanks for your insight, it makes my job easier.

[@gilbertlynds3930]

I know this is old and I have bought the apple tv 4k 2022. I love the Amazon Fire Tv 4k max and honestly if just internet streaming would stay with Firestick. But I have a plex server and scrolling through my plex movie library is painflly slow on the fireTv but silky smooth and fast on Apple and for that the extra cost of Apple is worth it

[@smartass1379]

I hate the apple tv interface so much. But then again I've used amazon for a lot longer so I get where you're coming from. Amazon also has the up next section with supported services

[@pitipan]

if you own stereo homepods, it's worth it. from a guy that owns apple tv4k, firetv 4k, and two firetv HD.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

I am there with you. Love my paired up with the full-size HomePods. Thanks for sharing and watching.

[@antoinepatterson4416]

@@CraigsTechTalk with mines I just use my Apple Airpod Max due to the spatial audio

[@curtispazarjr4985]

Great review!!!!!

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you Curtis. Appreciate you checking out this video too. Have a great day.

[@MrJudgi]

7:53 when I remember correctly the high framerate isn’t supported on the Apple TV, it has the port but the software allows a maximum of 60hz. Also the most things run with 24, 30 or 60 anyways

[@boyoorm.7966]

I own both. I use the fireTV for my old TV to run Netflix, etc. I use the ATV for my smart TV. Both serve their own purpose. But ATV is hands down the winner.

[@rickyf]

I have both but use a Fire TV Cube.

[@dwayneshaffer1914]

I own Apple TV (4th Gen, 4K and new) as well as the 4K fire sticks but not the new fire stick. I prefer the Apple TV but not willing to update all four remaining in my house

[@roshankumar-vk8di]

Apple tv 4k is the best streaming device available but its tvos needs a revamp.

[@StrifePulse]

Revamp? Why?

[@roshankumar-vk8di]

@@StrifePulse one live channel tab shud come up which pulls live channels from all the apps at one place. Many apps support not available like fancode , mx player. Or provide browser support to access them. Plus, settings should not take up full screen, it should appear on side of the tv. There are many more!

[@samirlefat3342]

The picture quality is much better on the Apple TV. But u can vpn on the fire stick

[@CraigsTechTalk]

You can now use VPNs with Apple TV. I haven’t tried it yet.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Craig.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you Ron.

[@BobBridgesbob]

Great, Great, Great review! I have a home full of both Amazon Echo and Google Home speakers, displays, cameras, etc. But as far as TV, I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Apple TV. You are the only reviewer that I've seen call out the UP NEXT feature. I just love that the next episode of the shows I watch, just shows up in the carousel! It's awesome! I have TRIED to get away from my Apple TV and had the FireTV Stick and the FireTV Cube for a while, but like you, I just HATE the FireTV interface. It's just not user friendly to me at all. I thought that the new Google TV would work the same way, but no. I do like the Google TV interface much better than the FireTV, but the Google TV just doesn't have the hardware to match. It gets slow to load sometimes. But I'm sure Google will solve that with better hardware in upcoming versions. But I keep getting pulled back to my Apple TV. You just can't beat the interface. As a matter of fact, I've been having some memory issues with my Apple TV 4K that I've had for a few years now, so I just yesterday ordered the new one. I know it's the same box, but looking forward to the new remote. Thanks again for the great review!

[@robertbuchanan7609]

I ha e been using fire stick for a while now all paired with Alexa. Gaming does bring up an interesting point. I'm not an apple guy so I can't say for sure but apple arcade looked like mobile games ported to a TV. I think for cloud gaming it's a toss up between Luna and Stadia and whose catalog looks better. With Luna you can save a little bit on hardware because you can connect Xbox and Playstation controllers to a firestick.

[@BigEddie85]

Good video as always. If we are talking about just streaming, Fire tv because it’s android you can download/sideload apps that when having on your firestick allow you to watch whatever from wherever. That’s a major plus even if in apple’s ecosystem to get a firestick or android streaming device in general.

[@xeon2k8]

a bit surprised you are the only comment mentioning this

[@garrysohal1565]

Bit more complicated but you can side load on Apple TV too

[@mindblockandroid]

Thanks for this video Craig! How would you rank the fire tv cube second gen against these two? Is it worth it against the fire stick max?

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you. The benefit of the cube would be the built in speaker for hands free Alexa. It’s like have an echo dot built in. Also the cube has infrared emitters to control A/v equipment. But Max has the new processor.

[@kingkobra1956]

The fire cube is a dumpster fire. I owned the first and second gen of the cube and both were ridiculously problematic. The first Gen lasted 11 months and the second Gen lasted 13 months. Do yourself a favor and don't buy the fire cube because it is a total waste of your money.

[@kingkobra1956]

The cube is garbage. I used the 1st and 2nd Gen cubes and they are absolutely problematic to no end. The 2nd Gen was even worse than the 1st Gen and the picture quality bites. The 2nd Gen only lasted for 13 months before it disintegrated. Don't waste your money buying it.

[@mace5380]

The cube is the same thing as the stick. You would now just have more storage but with everything being based on the cloud nowadays that doesn’t really matter for most people.

[@kingkobra1956]

@@mace5380 the 1st Gen cube used the cloud which made it slow. The 2nd Gen cube does not use the cloud to execute commands which increased response time.

[@carolelapointe1732]

Enjoy your video and personality. Your info is helpful, especially as I'm not a techy! I do have an AppleTV 4K HDR 32GB older version 2018. Was going to get a Firestick. Now I think I'll keep the Apple TV. Trying to eliminate expensive costs with all of these individual channels to buy. DirecTV, etc. Even with an AppleTV I still have to purchase the channels, so I don't see how either one saves me money? Keep sharing your information.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you very much Carole, I really appreciate you saying that and am glad to help. As for the fire tv stick, I would stick with the Apple TV. With both you run into the same services issues. Anything you get for free tv on the fire tv stick, you can download those apps. Such as IMDB.TV and others. For me the main reason to have these boxes is to not pay the cable or satellite companies. I am going to pay for Amazon Prime, Netflix, Disney+ & others even if I have cable. My goal is to get rid of the $100+ for cable that has a ton of channels I don’t watch. We are definitely in a streaming world that keeps adding up with services. Old school cable was just easier before all of these services.

[@traviseric8687]

Good content

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you Eric 🙏

[@jondeforge8266]

Have you ever done a review of a the Roku Ultra, how does it compare to the Apple tv ? I've seen them on sale for $80 dollars and it includes Apple Airplay and Apple home kit.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

I have not use Roku. It doesn’t have the integration into my apple world like an Apple TV and it doesn’t integrate with the echos like the Fire TV. I have heard great things about Roku.

[@cindydott452]

Just stopping by to say I'm perfectly happy with the Roku Express I got for $15 dollars at Walmart. It doesn't support gaming, but that's fine since I'm not a gamer.

[@Paul-ng4jx]

As somebody with an Apple 4K TV it’s worth it but I have two TVs but I also want to do stuff that the fire stick can do that the Apple TV just can’t do because of legal reasons. There’s is an app called Stremio The only Apple devices have an organizer, for you can’t actually watch movies off of it because technically, they’re streaming Torrents

[@ronwakula6737]

I have an apple and a bunch of older roku's. By far the roku's work better. The apple keeps hanging or can't find the server or the wifi. In my case cheaper is better.

[@lillyernst7300]

But I love you tube! Bummer Apple! 😮 I may have to do as your mom; happy with my iPhone iPad but stick with Fire tv. 😎 You’re wonderfully informative dude. Thanks! Subscribed 🙋🏻‍♀️🎄🎅🏼

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you very much. You are too kind. You can watch the KZbin app and KZbin TV app. I was saying those apps do not show up in the up next section. But those apps are there and work great. I like watching KZbin app on Apple TV. Thanks for watching.

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you very much for subscribing and sticking around for more. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas

[@georgebrodie9795]

Hey Craig enjoyed your video with the fire stick and the Apple TV you always have plenty of info and for that I thank you. I do have a question you were saying that we can use the Apple TV for a home hub so my question is can I incorporate my ring security to my house with the Apple hub ? Thanks for your information and keep making these videos thanks

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thank you very much George. Yes the Apple TV serves as a HomeKit hub. Unfortunately Ring devices do not work with Apples HomeKit. I have to use a 3rd party device called Hoobs to get my ring cameras and doorbells into HomeKit. It takes a bit of work to configure.

[@Nylgk]

Why not buy both?

[@T3CHGY007]

Unfortunately all the apps that you just highlighted on the Amazon stick, which is a great device, is not available in my country of Canada! #feelsbadeh !

[@BrBill]

Fire sticks are better than they used to be, but I tried a few and the interfaces were so pokey that I gave them away. That will never be true on an Apple TV.

[@jamesvolpe3581]

For my High end OLED'S I use Apple Tv, picture so much better then Fire Tv.

[@AngelLopez-vi3nr]

You rock Craig!!!

[@CraigsTechTalk]

You are too kind Angel. Thank you for watching

[@tmitchable]

I like Amazon but I don't like to use Fire Stick

[@joeyortiz484]

LoL U were better off doing a comparison of the cube instead!! 🤣😆

[@AseeF]

bought a firetv 4k Max (2gb ram , quadcore processor) for 40 . like 3/4 days ago . i love the ability to change launchers + sideload apps on an android box. It is flexible with just a bit of time and at 40$ , just replaced my dads 130$ android box.

[@michelcouture7026]

Fire 4k Max

[@devinbyrnes8058]

I have both. I had a fire stick, but the main sports streaming app in Canada is TSN The Sports Network, and that is available on Apple TV only, so I bought Apple TV. Total rip off for the price. Can’t use my android phone as a remote Iike I used to. I preferred the layout on the Firestick. The keep watching feature is useless since my main streaming channels are Netflix and KZbin. The game types are more for gamers on the Firestick. It works great, but there is no value proposition, unless they cut back room deals with content providers to be the only streaming host.

[@CollinBean-pj2dr]

I have Amazon fire tv

[@rosetracy3375]

I love my Apple TV 4K

[@rioborzeli147]

Having both , the Apple TV remote SUCKS harder then you know what. . The Apple TV world works as addvertized Still cant believe it got bigger then last version. I like the Easy firestick better .

[@thomassetzer]

Fire tv 4K max all the way Apple TV is to Restricted compared to freedom of the fire stick plus it has a web browser app

[@CraigsTechTalk]

Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts Gunzz

[@karenmarr8321]

Love your channel! I would want the Amazon Fire Stick to be able to use an Echo Dot 3rd Gen as a 'remote' speaker for the kitchen when I go there to fix dinner or get a drink. Am I thinking of this functionality in the right way? Also, would this functionality work with an LG 4K Smart TV, or would I need to purchase one of Amazon's Fire TVs?

[@MikhelBL]

The FireTV can be paired with Echo devices in various ways, you can have the FireTV stick send audio to an Echo Dot to keep track of what you're watching, it doesn't matter what TV you have.

[@karenmarr8321]

@Mikhel Barajas Thank you Mikhel! 😊

[@sccarguy]

Great video, I don't this much effort into my TV viewing, my kids are always digging on me because I have a 14-year-old 55" 3D 1080p tv and all I ever seem to watch is an old black and white movies.