SHOULD You Pirate Anime?

[@HGCarlos12]

Me: Oi Crunchyroll I would like to watch Sakura Quest please. Cr: Sorry no available in your country. Me:Then play Bakemonogatari please. Cr: Not available in your country. Me: Nise? Cr: No Me: Second Season? Cr: No Me: ok.. Serial Experiments Lain? Cr: hahaha nope Me: :( KissAnime: Dont worry I got you fam. Me: :) Cr: OMG you are pirating anime!!! You are the worst person ever!!!

[@HxH2011DRA]

Carlos H LMFAO accurate

[@clientornaka4690]

Lol nice xD

[@souldaniel19]

Carlos H this is so true. People need to stop them calling us who use pirating sites

[@clientornaka4690]

Yeah I regret nothing. lol I can pay for limited features or pay nothing and get darn near every anime in existence lol

[@caswellweird]

has Croll ever called people out for piracy if Croll wasnt available in their country?

[@madnessoverload7824]

BuT Yuo gOT to HeLP tHa inDusTrY!!!

[@MrNotSpecified01]

Madness Overload Lol I could pay 100 burgerbucks for a chinese cartoon and none of that money would even go to animators.

[@HxH2011DRA]

LMFAO XD accurate representation of the opposition

[@Zalis116]

@Raynal Payuk Isn't that bookstore... also a middleman?

[@alonsotoon]

in my country (spain) theres literally no good paid services for anime, so if i want to watch anime i have to pirate it :/

[@jmiquelmb]

PururuBoy Un fan de digibro de España como yo? Una pregunta, de donde viene tu nombre pururuboy?

[@alonsotoon]

es un ruido que solia hacer de pequeño y me parecio que sonaba bien :)

[@TheRibbonRed]

*Can definitely say this in Indonesia.* _Crunchyroll, Funimation and others only care about licensing in the USA_ -majority of the shows are unwatchable here (even though they are watchable in Singapore next door). The only decent alternative is Animax, but that’s *not* an on-demand site & only displays whatever they can get their license from the last season with big weeb reception. _Not to mention that you have to pay a whole lot more than Crunchyroll with far less the controls._ And then there’s the “Payment” problem. *Anything that is direct transaction from Indonesia to other countries needs VISA/Mastercard Credit Card, while a lot of people don’t have that capability.* _The solution to this would be like the Steam Wallet Gift Card, which is sold en masse here._

[@_BlazingRush]

I live in Spain too, and I'd say CR isn't too bad here. However KissAnime destroys it so whatever.

[@alonsotoon]

Franz Esteves crunchyroll es una mierda en el sentido de que tiene una mierda de catalogo la calidad de las seried es alta y tal pero no vale la pena

[@AhkoRC]

As far as I'm bothered, Crunchyroll needs to improve their library for other countries, give the player better playback options and let me download the episodes myself. If they can do that, I wouldn't immediately go somewhere else to watch something without even considering Crunchyroll.

[@RadTicTacs]

They'll probably never have the option to let people download episodes. I doubt they're legally allowed to do it and so long as anime dvds/blurays exist they probably will never be allowed to

[@TheRibbonRed]

RadTicTacs if we think about the “Download” problem through IT, we know that “Streaming” is just the same as downloading-the difference is just that they’re not permanent and not saved as a file ready to be grabbed by others. If CR is to invest heavily on file formats & encoding, they can allow “downloads” that’s only watchable on CR player. *But I think CR would be better investing heavily on licensing efforts.*

[@kueller917]

People on the technical side know streaming is just downloading. Hell, HorribleSubs has managed to run for years now without issue, but the business side aren't known for being technical. They want their content as secure as possible even if it's just smoke and mirrors in the end. That's not just a problem with CR. American media companies have been known to spend millions on foolproof anti-piracy protections that get cracked in weeks.

[@TheRibbonRed]

That's why I said it is better to invest in licensing efforts. What CR needs now is to broaden up their reach, either worldwide or solely in US over niche/unreachable titles like NGE. *If Crunchyroll is as comfortable right now as Digi said, then it's time for them to stand up and work.* Companies that wave around in wealth when at the top tends to fall quickly when faced with a new competitor, which Uniquenameosaurus' video might intend to do. There really is never a break in the business world. Either get on with it or get run over.

[@kueller917]

I does seem like their posting more well known older series (even if just a decade or so older) so maybe that is their intention. It could be a long game too, since as they get larger they could have greater pulling power to get those licenses.

[@pj2345-v4x]

You miss the point of his competition stance. You buy a phone for the core use of the phone because you need it, so it doesn't come down to which one you might get but instead which one you will get. Every phone can do basic phone shit, they all make calls, can access music, have apps, etc. One might have better apps in one area, sure, but you don't by apple because angry birds is on it. For playstations vs Xbox, yeah they have exclusive games, because the companies producing them either tailor their game for the console like Nintendo or they are already offering something that can't be reproduced. If I could play Halo for free with a giant community and internet access I would buy a PlayStation, because the Xbox is not giving me something extra that only it can provide to me. These are not consoles we are discussing, they are distribution platforms designed to give you a product anyone can get, they aren't busting their ass to produce the content and make their platform exclusively better, they are busting their ass to restrict other platforms and make the other service exclusively worse. In an industry where anybody can just go to kissani and get everything, the majority of business where you just bite your competitor and they bite you is not one that will thrive. A huge majority of anime viewers don't have a streaming subscription, there needs to at the very least be a guarantee that when I pay money for anime I can get all of it and not also have to buy the competitors, that's not real competition, and it's not like a console war.

[@Zalis116]

If there were a legal site that had all anime, it would cost as much as several existing services combined, because it takes more money and manpower to license and translate more content on a weekly basis. You're not getting the whole puzzle for the cost of one piece of it.

[@Raiwin]

@@Zalis116 exclusive licenses hurt the market. If each streaming service could buy the rights to stream animes, the industry itself makes more money and the competition is more about which services get better features, subtitles or larger variety, instead of exclusivising shows so that no one else can do anything about it.

[@Left4Cake]

@@Zalis116 Isenses would be cheeper idnthey weren't exlsuive lisnces. Because an exlsuive lisense has to making to the original stuido the losses from not being able to sell there anime anywhere else.

[@Zalis116]

@@Left4Cake Costs for bandwidth, translations, dubbing, and licensing negotiations wouldn't suddenly go down just because the licenses are non-exclusive. And if companies expanded their selection to have some approximation of "all anime," they'd have to charge more so that the popular titles can subsidize all the old crap that nobody cares about. Yeah, most phones have all the relevant apps, but you're not going to find a phone for the price of a calculator.

[@Left4Cake]

Why doesn't disallowing exclusive license also automatically mean expecting literally every show everywhere for one? Like if a service just doesn't want a show for what ever reason or a show doesn't want to be on a particular platform then fine. It's the fact that they are all spending extra money to knee cap each other rather then do things like... optimize there site more that's the issue. oh and also being able to sell your show in more then one place means you don't have to sell each individual licences for as much money since you can make your money back by being on all the popular streaming services. Meaning the servies should have more mony left over for the other aspects that arn't gonna be cheaper like dubbing and bandwidth.

[@leafbladie]

I think the problem in the comparison between video games and anime is that anime exclusives are so numerous. Most 3rd party games are available on both XBox and Playstation, but with anime there's very little overlap between streaming services.

[@kamon6961]

Oh god the sheer amount of people who have tried to guilt trip me for not subscribing to Crunchyroll, well here is the thing, I am poor, very much so. What money I do get, what do I spend it on? Anime shit! I literally just bought Ninja Scrolls on DVD from FYE last week, I also bought a Death Grips album, but that besides the point. I spend my extra money on anime shit. I don't give a shit about Crunchyroll, and it's shitty service.

[@TheRavenEffect88]

Money Store or No Love, Deep Web?

[@caswellweird]

as long as you are giving back in some way then thats fine. buying a dvd gives way more back to the company than streaming it anyway.

[@DyLeN17]

>Poor >Bought a Trash Grips album I still get your point though, the product has to be good for people to buy it, you can't just shame them into buying.

[@6iaZkMagW7EFs]

OniTheFox Death Grips is my favorite anime

[@PsilentMusicUK]

I prefer DVD's. There's something about owning a physical copies of things that I just like. I'm a sucker for the anime shelf in HMV or even a library.

[@TheUnknownOtaku]

The only thing about him saying that Kissanime can't hook it up to MAL.... well.... They did something else.. They hooked up all their anime episodes to reddit post, IF you have the "Essentials for Kissanime" extension.

[@TheUnknownOtaku]

True but i still meant that Kissanime still has a way to do it.

[@micaelcapo08]

Using 9anime.to, you can connect your account with MAL account.

[@someoneelse5005]

if you use essentials for kissanime, you can also hook up to MAL! check out settings, you can log in to your MAL through essentials, then it asks you to update your episode count when you have watched 80% of the episode!

[@tdfern1]

The Unknown Otaku Wait you can log into Kissanime but you need a MAL account to sign in?

[@someoneelse5005]

no you just need to register but you dont get real integration, you can import your MAL list but you can't update it automatically, the only useful thing you can do is open your "currently watching" list in 9anime and then click to go watch it on 9anime but yeah essentials for kissanime gives you automatic updating on MAL!

[@bleeters5984]

It's so fuckin' weird to me that we can hear an actual song from an OP or ED as part of watching an episode of an anime just fine, but if Crunchyroll or whoever wants to put some text on screen that translates the words in that song, they need to seek permission from some separate rights holder.

[@Zalis116]

That's just how the system works, and it takes more time than the weekly simulcasting schedule allows: www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2017-09-01/.120752 And given that most pirates happily watch re-encoded legal streams (with the exact same subtitles) on bootleg streaming sites, the lack of song translations isn't really a driving force for piracy.

[@kokirikid817]

Typesetting, editing and clarity of subtitles (why keep the same font, size and color as well as placing the subs directly on top of each other when two or more people are speaking and you can't fucking decipher anything for example) are my biggest grievances with CR and I refuse to support them until the glaring, awful subtitle standards they uphold are scrapped entirely and rebuilt from the ground up. Their subbing is years and years behind the fansubbing greats out there today, and their service will continue to be third rate until they can compare

[@Gamsterjeff600]

But wasnt fansubbing inaccurate for a while?

[@thanosandnobill3789]

Piracy does not hurt the source case closed. There are many studies that proven this, with the most recently study just came out before two months. Piracy actually help smaller companies to be most popular by the word of mouth. The only cases that piracy actually hurt is in very big and popular movies, anime, music etc.

[@user-rg7uz8of9r]

Saki Mcbill No, even the big movies were relatively unaffected, because people who pirate those already have no intention of buying them. Piracy has been shown countless times to be a net benefit to the industry, not a detriment. The reason these big corporations try to use legal battles is because piracy creates competition.

[@Zalis116]

Tell that to small, niche-entertainment anime companies like Geneon USA, Bandai Entertainment USA, and Central Park Media, none of whom were saved by the additional "popularity" generated by piracy.

[@thebestowns]

anime wouldn't be where it is now without piracy

[@Zalis116]

I don't remember pirates putting DBZ, Sailor Moon, YYH, Cowboy Bebop, Inuyasha, etc. on US TV.

[@jasond1691]

And a lot of niche shows wouldn’t have subtitles without crunchyroll

[@sebrij]

anime isnt where it is now because of those shows either, I would say anime is where it is now because of the thousands of other shows that us tv didn't air so people had to pirate it, Have a nice day.

[@Zalis116]

It was those "gateway" anime that got people interested enough to check out lesser-known / unlicensed stuff in the first place. A hell of a lot more people saw Pokémon and FLCL on TV, or rented Ninja Scroll from video stores, than the number of people who sent out self-addressed stamped envelopes for 6th-generation VHS fansubs of Trouble Chocolate. Piracy wasn't even particularly easy or convenient until 2003-04, and the US industry and fandom were well-established by that point. Did piracy play a role in the ecosystem? Sure it did, but to deny the work and contributions of the legitimate distribution industry is a historically mistaken position.

[@mlgmelon]

That's a pretty weak point even though it is true

[@ghostanbu1099]

Will Forneverworld respond again? Find out next time on dragon ball Digi

[@01omensfulls65]

Hell yeah I'm hyping that episode now

[@troyeason8238]

Digi Ball Z

[@MorningstarVODS]

Anbu BlkOps Will Forneverworld cry again?

[@kz_kanmuru4269]

*Digi Balls

[@SkyflyNB]

Cant wait for his response "THIS IDIOT SAYS YOU SHOULD PIRATE ANIME"

[@lampros1112]

Two and a half hours worth o content in under 14 hours on this channel (three videos)? How am i going to have time to watch anime, if i have to watch digibro talking about anime?

[@Adelinold]

exactly me

[@Spyderist]

Play anime games and listen to the background Digi

[@thatsniceman5081]

Digibro is by FAR the longest anime I've watched.

[@rawsuperhelix1483]

H U M A N C O N T E N T M A C H I N E

[@lampros1112]

Raw Super Helix IF DIGI IS A HUMAN CONTENT MACHINE I AM A HUMAN VIEWING(or CONSUMING) MACHINE.

[@nvdisheujdhd8561]

I just don't see why I would pay money for something that isn't a good as a free service 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Nightfurygaming247]

because it's ''morally wrong" ;)

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

i agree with you but you used emojis so you lost all of my sympathy

[@gabrielwright-dunn9355]

In all seriousness, because it is a really dick thing to do. It all depends on your views and personal principles on stealing, and allowing pirates to make more money.

[@twinkiesmaster69]

Gabriel Wright-Dunn ,morality is subjective Different people have different views and definitions of "good" and "bad" because they are "different people" And what you consider wrong and right isn't the same as what I consider wrong and right so it kinda isn't "morally wrong" or a "dick thing to do"....still stealing is a form of injustice with by democracy is deemed "unethical"

[@gabrielwright-dunn9355]

The M, exactly my point. Whether or not you think it's okay to pirate anime depends on your values. Personally, I have qualms about pirating shows because I don't wish to support pirates; even though I have nothing against people who, for any number of reasons, choose to watch shows on an illegal streaming site.

[@alexanderproulx382]

I would really love for Crunchyroll to let me download their shows onto my mobile devices so that I can them offline. Both Netflix and Prime Video have this feature which is where I’ve been watching a good chunk of my anime lately.

[@adamh5683]

Alexander Proulx VRV has this feature...

[@benhogue5957]

"Kissanime doesn't have ads." This is only true if you get the Essentials for Kissanime extension. Kissanime's ads are the worst I've ever experienced.

[@onuriskool1]

Ben Hogue would still rather deal with some shitty ads then spend like a fiver each month

[@Zeverinsen]

@@onuriskool1 Same

[@ratchet1freak]

For reference in Belgium I have a grand total of 386 available titles on crunchyroll at this point (copy paste the alphabetical->view all listing, remove the letter headings and counted lines) I know for a fact that in the neighbouring country Netherlands it's ~200 more (my work's office vpns over to there). A lot of good shows are available there. Recently (as in 2 days ago) Haruhi got available in the NE but not in BE. It's like publishers don't even know Belgium exists. That pisses me off immensely...

[@fluffypink90]

By the same method, I get a count of 654 in Australia. Pastebin link: pastebin.com/49eYrAhm It would be interesting to see how much of it is common to all regions. Our biggest publisher (Madman) also have their own service, which currently lists 307 titles. (A bit more non-anime stuff in there than Crunchyroll, however) There's no easy way of making a list of them, sorry.

[@ratchet1freak]

I was right Netherlands has 576: pastebin.com/Lg4FjPwc Of course that's not counting individual seasons that may or may not be available, For example SAO doesn't have season 3 available in the Netherlands. Or shows that are behind the premium paywall in one country but not another, Naruto shippuden is premium-only in BE but free in NE.

[@oreomonogatari]

Ooh I really like your subtitle ideas. It's things like this that Crunchyroll need to do, since they obviously can't get hold of a lot of anime series for licensing problems. Also I love your Studio streaming services idea, though I'm sure that companies like FUNimation, Aniplex and Netflix, etc, would make this difficult. Though I think Trigger's catalogue of work is a too small to warrant a decent costing monthly subscription. Studios like Madhouse doing this would be much appreciated.

[@poisonbang2178]

THANK YOU for mentioning the fact that broke people shouldn't stress about the legality. I'm broke as shit and simply can't afford that weight on my life of 6+$ and I can't believe how many people have told me that I just shouldn't watch anime, ever. It's fucking ridiculous how some people respond to it with shit like "get a job" as if 1. Broke ass people aren't trying. And 2. As if you could ever spend all of your time not sleeping/eating/etc. doing it.

[@HxH2011DRA]

Poison Bang I always bring this up but Capitalists conflate property rights and human rights and it is exactly that sort of thinking that made corporations into people in the eyes of the law while so many of our population are slightly less than people in the eyes of the law.

[@poisonbang2178]

That sentence makes so little grammatical sense I have no idea what you're getting at. Bur I sure can figure out that you're trying to talk big to sound smart and edgy but you're not making it with your lack of words necessary to make that sentence legible.

[@HxH2011DRA]

Poison Bang no no no if I was trying to sound smart and edgy I would have quoted the masterpiece that is neo yokio *communism forever*

[@HxH2011DRA]

Poison Bang I agree I unironically love Neo Yokio

[@caswellweird]

its fine if you can't afford to support the industry, just dont be like the assholes that pirate and actively mock people that do or use that as an excuse if you ever could.

[@WheediesManchild]

I remember back in the days of fansubbing when you actually got translations of whats on screen. Like characters calling some one or reading a text on his phone, now its jibirsh a wast of screen, when it could, and often was, translated. And iv always enjoyed translator notes no matter what format, fan subs also used to have those as well. Sounds silly, but I wish fan subs was still popular. Edit:fixed spelling and some grammar.

[@Sketchy_2]

WheediesManchild anime going mainstream was a mistake

[@NightClubSamurai]

I would not be able to imagine watching gintama without the translator notes giving me some sort of explanation for jokes, word puns in Japanese or just giving context to culture and history.

[@BigBoss-sm9xj]

Like gintama in kissanime

[@Zalis116]

Blame HorribleSubs (AKA direct rips of legal streams) for the decline of traditional fansubs. If more people still waited to download fansubs instead of getting HS (or watching on bootleg streaming sites, which just re-encode HS), we might see more fansubs today. And of course, HS was a creation of fansubbing group gg, so the calls were coming from inside the house the whole time.

[@Zeverinsen]

Kaizoku fansubs for One Piece all the way ♥ Fan subs is one of the biggest reasons why I'll always watch subs and prefer the fan subs to "official" ones.

[@GrothBrooks]

One thing you seem to be getting mixed up is original content vs licensed content. No one is saying that HBO should put all of its in-house shows on different channels or that Nintendo should sell Zelda on every console. If Crunchyroll decides to make an original show, they have no reason to put it on different streaming services. But licensed shows should be available through more than a single network. Also, you said that this argument doesn't get made for other mediums, but it does. There have long been complaints in gaming about not being able to play a game because you don't own the "right" console, or not being able to play with your friends because they play the *same* game on a *different* console. But now many games (Though definitely not all) are multi-platform and cross-platform play is finally starting to happen as well, which are both acting to fix those long-held complaints. The anime streaming market is facing the basically same problem: Split content, leading to a split community and driving people to piracy because they don't want to pay $50+/month on 7+ subscriptions just to watch everything they are interested in.

[@Zeverinsen]

And we've seen how publishers and platformholders actually gain more on having cross platform releases and cross play available, because the consumers either pays for convenience or they won't pay at all.

[@Adrian.Christ]

Something that doesn't usually come up in the piracy argument is that some people just aren't interested in anime enough to justify spending money on it. At that point, the industry gains nothing as these people (myself included) wouldn't spend money on anime, even if they couldn't get it for free.

[@Vtubears]

A lot of obscure anime, Blue-ray bonus, very old anime, OVAs just WONT show up on paid streaming sites because its not worth it for them to buy the license or track down the studios in question.

[@xyzqsrbo]

And this is why they will always be behind.

[@Zalis116]

Blu-Ray bonuses are for those who buy the Blu-Rays -- the incentive is diminished if that content is freely available on legal sites. Most viewing activity on illegal sites centers around recent / popular / mainstream TV shows that're available on legal sites anyway.

[@TheIgorMeta]

I had Crunchyroll subscription for 3 years but I canceled it this year. I was very unhappy when terminated the Smart TV support and I find their Android App very shitty, even the Desktop version is not so good. I hate browsing the content on their site, there is a bunch of cute girls show. If at least they had the download option like Netflix I could watch anime anyplace and anytime. I want to support the industry, but I'm just not so interested on all these new shows. I'm 33, married, got a baby, living in Brazil... Crunchyroll does not have that much stuff I wanna watch, very few classics and plenty of new anime are not available in my country. I know they're getting better, maybe I'll go back someday but right now I'll stick with illegal services/downloads.

[@Zeverinsen]

Good, you're voting with your money

[@TheIgorMeta]

@@Zeverinsen Sure man. That's something in what I believe in, voting with the wallet. Btw... I'm sticking to anime available on Netflix ou Prime. Illegal download are super rare now. 😉👍

[@TheRibbonRed]

So, I compared this to the ol’ piracy problem on video games in Indonesia. Steam’s solution for the payment is to en masse *distribute Steam Wallet Gift Cards, so those without Credit Card* (which is a majority of Indonesian gamers) *can pay Steam for games legally.* But licensing issues is definitely a big problem with no quick answers in sight.Getting a niche anime with slight hints to R-18 here would be near impossible, due to how idiotic Indonesian censorship is.

[@LyamOfficial]

slightly hints of R-18? I have heard that sometimes Indonesia censorship is so trigger happy that even stuff that goes around the "R-15/R-16" tag may get the chopping block

[@TheRibbonRed]

Raynal Arrung Bua ay, that’s a public secret lol. But I wasn’t referring to porn itself. Anything that has a slight R-18 nod (Ecchi comedy, Gore killings, etc.) and meant to be consumed en masse has a harder time finding a spot in Indonesia _legally._ If we’re talking illegally, it’s a whole different matter-but then, you’d also have to add up how the creators are going to make money out of it.

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

You should if you want the authentic One piece experience

[@JT_117]

Torrenting is always the best way to pirate.

[@xyzqsrbo]

Ehh not really. Torrenting is the best if you have good internet which I and many others do not.

[@Zalis116]

Agreed -- at least downloading via torrents or XDCC/DDL doesn't let pirates profit from the anime industry's work (and I should know), and gets you better quality, since bootleg streams = lossy re-encodes of downloaded files. Possibly better subs too, since bootleg streams for recent shows are taken from HorribleSubs 1:1 copies of legal streams with the exact same subtitles/translations, and downloading from fan release groups can (possibly) mean getting improvements on those official subs.

[@Zalis116]

Speaking as a fansub translator, I wouldn't agree that official subs are "awful," although there's certainly room for improvement. And from their habits, most pirates wouldn't agree either, since most viewers choose to watch on bootleg streaming sites like KA (=direct rips of official streams & their subs), and even among those who choose to download via torrents, most choose... the HorribleSubs direct rips of official streams & their subs! Whatever's motivating the masses to pirate, it's clearly not a quest for better subtitles. Even for so-called "fansubs," which for modern anime are just edits of official subs, the translations aren't fundamentally different from the official subs. In addition to tweaking the timing/typesetting, translating OP/ED, and fixing English editing errors (simulcast subs are produced on a tight schedule) the fan release groups might add honorifics or change Western name order to Eastern -- however, those aren't translation improvements, they're just different localization choices. Some groups like to make official subs even _more_ Americanized/localized than they originally were, and add memes/trolling to the scripts as well.

[@TheKnownPersona]

Hey Digibro, what your saying about MAL and Crunchyroll integration and automatically updating it already exists but as a chrome extension for kissanime.

[@xyzqsrbo]

My same thought xD.

[@AStrawberryFruitBat]

The Crunchyroll region lock ist really easy to bypass. By logging in using a VPN service or proxy located in the US you can watch the whole catalog. You can even turn of your vpn/proxy afterwards, so a free service like tunnelbear with limited data volume works fine. If your location is not detectet as "USA" try to log out and in again and make sure to set your language to english. I live in germany, so i use this all the time.

[@cberryxd]

I personally pirate/illegally stream shows, movies, music, and games due to being unsure about the quality, not wanting to support anti-consumer companies, or if I just can't obtain it due to over inflated pricing or literally not being available where I live. If it's something I enjoyed, I will buy it without question.

[@madaggar9765]

I just have a problem with digital media licensing in general. If I could buy digital media directly from the studio, for DL not stream, I would be doing that. Barring some massive changes to international licensing in the future, that's not going to be an option, ever. Streaming is also a no go for myself, especially paid for streaming.

[@user-rg7uz8of9r]

Madaggar Lots of people have that opinion, and what we do is torrent and then buy merch. Support creators!

[@Zalis116]

Wouldn't just be supporting middleman merchandise manufacturers and distributors?

[@dafo446]

CAN I PAID 5$ A MONTH AND WATCH ANY ANIME CURRENT SEASON OR ANY ANIME IN THE PAST, LEGALLY? NO? so PIRATE IT IS

[@123cheezecakehd]

dauxanh 64 just paid for crunchyroll last week cuz i got sick of ads, literally watched 2 eps on crunchyroll so far, doesn't have a single show i want to watch

[@KingCreepa]

Its more or less the fact that for not paying five dollars you can get something better than crunchy roll. Now if it was equal that would help as people wanna support the creators/distributes

[@WalkingGirlKoi]

dauxanh 64 A lot of Crunchyroll anime aren't of my interest because I don't really follow current season lineups. The only shows I can think of that I'd watch again on there would by Ms. Kobayashi's Dragon Maid or Rose of Versailles. The other shows Crunchyroll removed, too.

[@dasletho1949]

you just can't pay the license for EVERY show+ the translators. at least not for 5 bucks a month.

[@dafo446]

YEAH CAUSE I DON'T PAID 5 I HAVE TO PAID 10 FOR EXTRA VPN SERVICE! CRUNCHIE ROLL DOESN'T STREAM IN MY COUNTRY, AND FREE VPN SERVICE WILL NOT CUT THE SPEED IS TOO SLOW

[@RingoFreakingStarr]

At 15:35 when you bring up integrating Crunchyroll in MAL, that already exists but on Anime-Planet; not MAL. When you watch something on Crunchyroll via Anime-Planet you can tick an option that auto updates your currently watching list.

[@cookiecream1637]

Honestly, I dont mind the ads when I can quickly click off of them. My problem with crunchyroll isnt that I dont want to pay for it, but that I have no reason to when I can essily access a similar service for free, WITH the large amount of shows I want to catch up on. Helping out the anime industry is something I want to do, but give me a genuine reason to other than I like your shit. Connecting my MAL account to something such as crunchyroll to instantly update my list would be incredibly helpful. Ill support the hell out of manga though.

[@mitori]

there's actually plenty of argument against exclusives on consoles from the most radical pro-consumer side of the argument. and it's hard to disagree with them: you buy the console on its merits, on the service, not on the game you want. it's a very cheap and easy to just take a game hostage and convince people to buy your piece of hardware. xbox doesn't do it anymore *and* has better service than sony (allegedly, i don't have an xbox). and switch is portable and if had all the ps4 and xbox games, it would've had such an appeal, can you imagine? i admit, it's a very idealistic position and not very realistic, but a man can dream, right?

[@aeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeae2144]

there's a chrome web store extension called KissCaptcha Goodbye which takes away the weird riddles

[@AHeckman118]

The thing is that I've realized that I won't really consume anime any differently if I do get a Crunchyroll account. I get all my show recommendations from anime youtubers, so I wouldn't discover any shows through CR, and I don't mind Kissanime's humanity tests, so getting an account won't change anything for me.

[@AnimeFlyz]

Just by the title of this video, i can already tell shit is gonna go down.

[@noctiscuadro6983]

Sniff, sniff...Huh, what's that? I smell CONTROVERSY.

[@HxH2011DRA]

Noctis Cuadro Smells good doesn't it

[@spinyslasher6586]

Uniquenameosaurus and Digibro VS CR and its hopeless fanboys.

[@gabrielwright-dunn9355]

You are right, companies aren't trying to compete fairly. That kind of makes things really difficult for the consumer depending on what you specifically value with a game console or a streaming service, and how much disposable income you have.

[@fakixel8776]

kiss does have ads but if you use the chrome plugin kissanime essentials then you dont have ads. [edit: its called essentials for kissanime]

[@theMoporter]

They recently added Welcome to the NHK! to UK Crunchyroll, which is great, but they have the *exact* same subs as the DVD. Yellow subtitles. And the OP and ED credits alternate English and Japanese every episode. It's baffling.

[@AmSeris]

11:00 your counter argument here is inconsistent. If there were a phone than can play both Apple apps and Android apps then I would totally get that. In this case KissAnime for example. Are you saying Windows and Mac are not a competitive market? They are but they sure do try as hard as they can to play the same software. The idea of having something in a product that isn't in another is a given, but the contrast is too big here. PlayStation and X-box have different games (mostly not though), but that's not optimal. To prove this, I'd say the existence of a console that can play both would easily throw these two out of the market. Think: PC. But of course consoles still exist because they have other advantages to keep it going for them (like Nintendo and their occasional innovation)

[@coital]

I have a Crunchyroll and I have a Netflix account both running, still use Kiss due to the fact half the shows i wanna watch isn't in my country. Note: Use to have a Funimation account, and i access'd it using a vpn as the site isnt allowed in my country but you know, pain in the fucking butt.

[@sladikk]

All you normies only using 9anime and kissanime...Watchcartoon is where it's at

[@XaviKun]

sladikk bless, it even lets you dl episodes

[@claudevercetti]

You can do the auto-update feature you mentionned digi. Using the MAL Updater software and launching downloaded series from it updates your list automatically It's actually super neat! You need to download the series however... it would be cool if it could be made compatible with streaming.

[@blooblerdoobler]

If Crunchy Roll added the sub thing you talked about they would instantly get my buy

[@AustinStudios]

Ive seen Crunchyroll change subtitles before. In Hibike Euphonium they translated breathing exercises as circular breathing. When I recatched it was changed to breathing exercises.

[@AijeAstralos]

I can confirm that Crunchyroll does occasionally update subtitle tracks. when they simulcasted the episode of Unlimited Blade Works with Shirou's fight against GIlgamesh originally they used a literal translation of the prayer that he uses for the titular ability, but changed this to the official, non-literal translation sometime after that initial airing.

[@hewhosays7979]

24:26 - 25:00 Best point in this motherfucking website.

[@hermesrodrigues5980]

Most of anime is made using what is a modern version of slave work. It can be argued that it is highly immoral to give money to corporations that finance this predatory business model, as most of the money wont even go to the animators themselves, being mostly directed towards those corporations. I think using a service like crunchyroll is questionable, and we should give the money to initiatives that protect the animators, or just through works there there is no exploration of the animators involved, such as buying kyoto animation merchandise. GIVING MONEY TO CRUNCHYROLL IS FUCKING WRONG AND YOU SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE

[@pixequil]

25:44 sounds like you were about to say "delete your pledge" haha

[@PKMN649]

On the subject of the Opening and ending themes. KZbin already shows how much people love to just listen/watch the opening of their anime. It's the same as the clips thing tbh. People love this shit a lot.

[@Crackers2796]

Something that would make me start using Crunchyrole is the ability to make multiple users under one account like netflix does, like i don't want me and my brothers to all have to buy it individually if we don't want our progress and suggestions to be messed up by each others use

[@michaelburke6556]

first time I tried crunchyroll years ago I watched an anime and 3 episodes in the adds glitched the show and made it stop loading, had to reload the entire thing to get it working again but the longer I was on cr the worst it got and I occasionally try it and eventually it screws up, I won't pay for anything if it's shit

[@WalkingGirlKoi]

Goddamit Digi, that Captain Harlock thumbnail is genius. And yes, I do pirate anime because how else am I going to watch NGE, 80's anime, and Precure?

[@BonsaiBeard]

Mal works with Kidd anime via the mobile app I use called anYme auto updates after watching an episode, shows my current watching shows on the home screen, it's nifty.

[@harrystubbs713]

I cant understand why any streaming service wouldnt make being inrernational a prioroty. At the moment Disney plus is not in Europe, not even in the UK, a English speaking country. Is everyone I know pirating their shows, of course. I want to watch them and I dont really care if Disney, one of the biggest corporations, gets my money or not. Even when it released here, I dunno if I want to just give Disney money, I might. I dunno yet. Is piracy a crime, yeah. Is beating up a pedophile technically assault, also yeah. I dont mind if a huge corporation doesnt get my money because all they have been trying to do is get it, in anyway they can.

[@irisofrosebloom8741]

As for your idea about the Crunchyroll subs, the weird thing is that they already apparently had a similar idea with the Phoenix Wright show where you could right click and toggle between the version of the subs with the English and Japanese versions of the character names. I have no idea why they haven't already expanded on that idea already.

[@xyzqsrbo]

I would watch crunchyroll if I did not have to watch 5 minutes of ads in the middle of it. Do you know how much wasted time that is when binging things like one piece? That is literally 2.8 days of ads.

[@AnimeFreakLucky7]

Agreed with 70's and 80's anime. Crunchyroll don't give two craps about older anime, so I watch pirated. If they had older titles, I'd watch legally, end of story.

[@lucky_u19]

Here is my opinion about subtitles done by volunteers or whomever Crunchyroll is using: They don't have established guidelines. If you turn on subtitles/closed captions on KZbin, you will notice there is various inconsistencies (not counting automated captioning), from how they split the subtitles, how punctuation is used (some uses full stop at end of a sentence, some only uses them if the sentence ends in the middle of the subtitles), to how they translate it. It could be due to how one is used to TV subtitles in their own country (I, for one, would use '...' if the subtitles is going to be continued in the next subtitle). What Crunchyroll could do is to establish a guideline based on the feedback of their users, and provide it to their translators so that it gets a more uniform translation output. Regarding translator's note subtitle track: There is obviously websites who had done it. I'm not sure if Crunchyroll needs to obtain permission to make their own version of it (Because I knew Viki based their whole business model around fan translations), but the more bigger problem would have to be misuse of it. Because for subtitles you know it is at least for the content, but for translators' note, it is harder for Crunchyroll to tell whether it is necessary or if the translator is abusing it. It adds work to editor during checking, and Crunchyroll is most likely short-staffed on translator/editor front. (Because let's be honest, they always are)

[@charlescann4433]

2 years later and CR still.dosnt even have a working autoplay feature on their website.

[@MasikoY]

For those looking to watch and download a decent amount of anime I use chia anime. They have a pretty large library of movies and shows

[@kueller917]

Clips are something I really want on every site now. Even something like the ones Twitch has. I didn't think much from Crunchyroll but even on KZbin as videos get longer being able to share this one small part would be nice. It would also prevent others from uploading those clips (like for Bill Wurtz' jingles).

[@holycowitsdave]

Dunno if you've already seen it, or if you'll even see this, but Unique did a couple of follow up videos clarifying the exclusives points he was making, showing what I thought was a pretty good case for why IP law was never intended to be used the way online streaming platforms are using them, and even brought up the whole "Console exclusives" argument too.

[@Chimera-man-man]

Do you think it would be outside the scope of Crunchyroll to pay fansubbers to go back and resub shows? They wouldn't be able to sub the theme songs obviously but since fansubbers are so dedicated to subbing shows anyway, they could do it (possibly exclusively) for crunchyroll for a fee on a freelance basis. idk what the fee would be but that would be a cool gesture to the community

[@MinnesotaBurns101]

What's the poster in background with 3 girls, all with cat(?) ears, and the girl at the front sitting down? 0:48

[@citycrusher9308]

The answer is simple. Copyright was originally for only 5 years. It was increased waaay beyond that point out of greed. So don't waste your guilt on pirating an anime over 5 years old.

[@Zalis116]

The vast majority of piracy takes place with recent/airing anime, not older content. And if a company or artist makes a work that's still enduringly popular after 5-10+ years, why shouldn't they be able to benefit from it? Surely there's a middle ground between 5 years and 75 years or whatever it is now.

[@eyeofterra]

@@Zalis116 10 years should be a maximum in my opinion. Most viewers have already watched it so those few people that watch it won't give that much profit.

[@kz_kanmuru4269]

I hate crunchyroll cuz of the copyrighted names shit, in Jojo part 3 anime they change the names of the stands to things different from what they are saying when we can clearly hear them say them, and its fucking annoying !!!

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

This bothered the fuck out of me.

[@tomateunmate]

From now on you'll always notice when characters say Line and it gets subbed "that chat app". Ep 1 of girlish number has it.

[@hunting4urbooty231]

And it continues with Jojo part 4, Killer Queen=Deadly Queen, Crazy Diamond= Shining Diamond and so on

[@gabrielwright-dunn9355]

Yeah, it's really weird.

[@MercuryFalcon]

Its not something that can be helped especially after the part 5 game was localized and canceled due to Prince's attorney's threatening a lawsuit over the use of the name Golden Experience.

[@AdmiralWalrus]

I don't give a shit if supporting sites like CR promotes bad habits in the industry or whatever. If I think it's worth my money NOW, then it's worth my money now. For me, the value of a platform like CR comes from an ad-free experience (Adblockers don't block everything, which is especially important on mobile where my ad/virus defenses are much weaker), and a fairly reliable video player across multiple platforms (The players on sites like Kissanime have never worked well for me). I can comfortably stream on my computer, my phone, my ps4, even my Vita if I feel like it - that's a valuable feature to me. I still torrent for offline convenience though.

[@Irisverse]

Crunchyroll did have alternate subtitle tracks for the Ace Attorney anime. You could either watch the adventures of Phoenix Wright, or watch the adventures of Naruhodo Ryuichi. Although, this is only one show, and it isn't so much literal translation vs. localisation as it is making it a completely different show.

[@fleckens]

While I don't have any issues with crunchyroll and I'm glad they exist I don't personally use them and have no intention to, have always downloaded and used programs(taiga for the last few years) to easily watch it while auto updating MAL. Perhaps if I was watching airing shows then watching on crunchyroll would be a bit easier but as I'm mostly watching older/finished shows and often jump between them depending on what I feel like watching it's much easier for me to just download a ton of shows from a private tracker and use Taiga to play them. And as for supporting, I tend to buy merch/BD's(usually just first one as buying whole set is a bit too expensive) of the shows I really like which of course ends up being far more than I could ever give by paying for a crunchyroll subscription.

[@purplechimkin3404]

There's a reason why I watch almost exclusively Digi, from the Anituber community. He can describe a point and how he thinks about that point in a way that makes me understand his perspective. You go Digi! Best AniTuber (Also because he's a Tim)

[@Joenah5]

I would be curious to hear your thoughts on Uniquenameasaurus's follow-up hour-long video that just came out. I know, personally, I agree with his points in that video, and that you may not (as it deals with economic issues that have been subject for debate for quite some time); but, your insight on it would be, at the very least, interesting.

[@illdie314]

are there any free streaming sites that have a queue system like crunchyroll? tbh thats the most useful thing about it for me, i dont want to think about what number episode i left off on

[@daydreamingdonuts]

9anime>kissanime

[@731freeman]

DayDreamingDonuts AKA both are shit, like you I assume

[@changye9604]

Masterani>9anime>Kissanime.

[@xyzqsrbo]

I am genouly curious what features 9anime has and masterani has that kisanime does not. Can anyone inform me?

[@Maya_k]

With 9anime, you can integrate your MAL account. Masterani used to do it with MAL, but they now do it with Kitsu only. You can't do that with KissAnime. 9anime has much faster load times for episodes, cleaner layout, you don't change pages to see new episodes (which means you can watch episodes even FASTER). 9anime just has a better layout. I personally use both 9anime and KissAnime but prefer 9anime.

[@daymi7300]

9anime is clunky. gogoanime has the most active community

[@SlurpeeTheUnholy]

Idk and idc, I just dropped in to say thanks so much for using Harlock in the thumbnail. Too many people don't know about this wonderful man.

[@Yrneh]

i feel you on the localized subtitles thing, netflix is really bad about that

[@PetelProduction]

a few points: 1. I agree about the "not available in your region". i wanted to see Hero Aca, and couldn't, and that sucked. I decided to move to other shows, but that didn't work too. so this is a point i totally agree to. 2. i think it's going to be expensive to give every show multiple translations for every language. so i think this isn't something that's gonna happen 3. JoJo's bizzare adventures, at least the first episodes, have translations to the opening song (though not the ending. well, it's in English...)

[@happygoluka9367]

so uniquenameasaurus is finally gonna reached 10k now

[@23Feanor]

Its got better since this video aired. I'm in the UK and there are some shows I can't get here (for me recently I've had to pirate the following One Piece dub, Hunter x Hunter dub & Re:Creators). Between Crunchyroll & Funimation, to which I subscribe, I can usually get 2/3's of the anime I want to watch legally & the remaining 1/3rd I have to pirate as I can't get it anywhere else. Funimation is great for simulcast dubs and Crunchyroll for simulcast subs along with their back catalog, which is decent, there's plenty of shows on both platforms I have waiting to watch. But there's still gap which I find myself stuck and using pirate sites, usually 9anime, to watch these shows.

[@onuriskool1]

Your idea of having different subtitles that you can choose is not worth the money or time for crunchy roll

[@iamalittleboat]

I'll just note that with it's really easy to get onto the U.S. Crunchyroll from other countries. Took me literally 30 seconds of research. There's a free, legal plug-in for it on the Chrome webstore.

[@HunterSerge]

Isn't VRV essentially a package service between Crunchyroll and Funimation with some other stuff in there too? So they are doing that package thing.

[@awsomeboy360]

The thing is VRV doesn't have every show from both services.

[@JoeSchmoHere]

There's a chrome extension called kissanime essentials that removes all adds and pop-ups as well as adding a bunch of useful features and customization options for anyone who hates the adds.

[@JoeSchmoHere]

Also it has MAL integration.

[@Dernaxale]

The thing with Crunchyroll only being useful for the US is only somewhat true. I myself am from Europe and have a very strict online library. However, what I do is just VPN to the US and BOOM there we go, all of the shows that CR offer in the US. It is a niche thing that you can VPN the website, and I recommend it to all of the people outside of the US.

[@Cyberfoxxy]

Regardless Xbox and PlayStation exclusives is also anti competitive. There is not a single technical reason that a PS4 can't run a Wii game using an emulator. Put emulators into equation and we're suddenly in the very same situation. Emulation offers better service, better prices and better content. If you wanna go legal. Good luck hunting down "out of print" releases for Alcahest.

[@AwesomeArgonanth]

Until they let me buy an mkv that I can just store on my own hard drive and watch when I want on whatever device I want I'm going to keep torrenting. I pay for and use streaming services for many shows, but they still don't let me get the video file so I can watch it while offline.

[@alecreyes8970]

One thing I desperately want from legal streaming sites is customizable font for subtitles. Fansubs of shows like Lucky Star, Nichijou, etc would use this colorful comic-sans-like font that in a weird way enhanced the viewing experience. Having a font style thats as cute and vibrant as the show itself is better than having the same bland Funimation font for every show ever. A boring font for subs will actually distract me once in a while.

[@Replica_Rabbit]

I didn't know about that version of Kissanime, I use the one that top of the list and that has so many pop ups

[@AnnihilateTheHeaven]

Hmm, that whole studio streaming service thing, is actually a cool idea, it kinda reminds me of what RT does with RWBY, which is exactly that.

[@evanever]

Kissanime has popup ads for me and I can't block them because Adblock isn't allowed. I use 9anime though.

[@muralla5144]

Crunchyroll is innovating.... Crunchyroll: Creates a new anime instead of adding good anime to the platform

[@owlid3890]

I read the title wrong and thought it would be a video where digi talks if there should be more anime about pirates.

[@MrCactuar13]

I think my biggest gripe with Crunchyroll is its lack of OVA series and episodes. I understand that many of those are direct-to-home video and not aired, but I think there should be the option to have a sort of pay-per-view for OVA specials at the very least. Maybe it'll only help to further deter the pirates from wanting to subscribe, but for those already subscribed I don't think we'd mind forking over a couple extra bucks to watch an OVA to enjoy more of our favorite shows.

[@TebaldiMaster]

The most funny part of it is that Anime Strike is not available in most countries... lol In Brazil, for instance, I can't even subscribe to Amazon Prime. Oh, they can upload these clips in their KZbin channel!

[@angrycid]

I think the point Uniquenameasaurus was going for with the phone analogy is that phone do the same things generally and you buy them as services for the things they do differently. With regards to legal streaming services I think he was trying to say that the current set are selling the anime as the product when they should sell the service and its own features instead

[@jan050375]

it would be amazing if crunchy roll brought back the notes for translations back. i loved to get additional information about japanese culture in oldschool fan subs.