Should you pull for Luocha, Fu Xuan, or Aventurine?

Who is the best pull to fill the sustain role on your account? Luocha, Fu Xuan, or Aventurine? We discuss each units' strengths, weaknesses, and place in the meta in this video!
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00:00 Start
00:59 Luocha
07:09 Fu Xuan
14:15 Aventurine
18:25 Team archetype discussion
22:30 Cleansing & Debuff resisting
25:39 End
#honkaistarrail #starrail #nutty #luocha #fuxuan #aventurine

[@phatasm6351]

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[@SM-oc4rc]

The cream always rises to the top! So what we gotta do is to let loose and let our cream out on top of the world!

[@Saberdud]

WE NUTTING WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@jamesnollase891]

LETS NUT

[@Arsha136]

This is my prediction, next healing exclusive relic set will turn a portion of healing into shield when it exceed maximum health. That will help Luocha, it might even help healing over time like Natasha, Lynx, Huo Huo into shielding every turn. I never cope this hard before.

[@reabsorb6775]

this makes too much sense and would make too many characters actually viable again lol

[@bobkys7916]

Set that makes wearer gain healing boost % from convertible atk that when over a certain limit increase allies crit rate by 8% and crit dmg by 15%

[@poxelus]

Sounds too good to be true. Luocha's E2 already does a similar thing.

[@sin9148]

But Luocha already has one in his eidolons? The set would make his eidolon useless then (unless you don't have the eidolon ofc)

[@Arsha136]

@@reabsorb6775 🤣👍

[@Kriakye2435]

Started playing and got Acheron as my first pull 5 star. Ur vids have been very helpful and funny. Thx mate

[@ZitronenT]

as clara player i rly wanna have aventurine, was so much fun to combine them in the story part.

[@rubenporto869]

Me too. I have Clara e2 and play togheter so very fun

[@deadpaul6587]

I'm worried he will steal aggro though? Cuz he's preservation

[@rexevan6714]

​@@deadpaul6587maybe we can put them close?

[@ZitronenT]

@@deadpaul6587 didnt had problems with that, maybe claras aggro is higher so she dont care. but we dont know if aventurine will feel the same as in the story. if you want i can give you a feedback after he released.

[@SelenaPond]

Have you seen a funny clip of Clara VA simping for Aventurine?

[@ava3603]

Like you mentioned this game loves the idea of "archetypes", aventurine fits perfectly on the FUA archetype and just gives good consistent sustain across the board. Luocha is the be all end all comfy sustain because of how many built in "saves" he has, while also having the strip and decent toughness damage. Fu just feels like the "CRIT" sustain with a BIS scenario on mono Quantum, she just makes everything more consistent. HH is the premium clease and battery unit, dot niche. They're all great overall and a massive upgrade vs 4*, I'd say pick the one that fits the archetype you're investing more on and the character you like most.

[@lolidkwhy8537]

And then there's Bailu who sold her cleanse for dmg reduction and resurrection.

[@lelegardl9473]

​@@lolidkwhy8537 she sold her Abundance thing to get closer to Preservation, so if Luocha's teammate gets oneshot, Bailu's teammate will barely survive.

[@lesterism]

Fu Xuan is not an upgrade for a 4*, she's literally the comfort sustain in the game not Luocha. Not only your team won't die with her around, you also get free crit rate and CC block for 3 turn in 1 sp

[@gorgemensh974]

@@lesterism to the first enemeies which needs a good healer or real shields

[@tidess]

luocha is definitelyyy not the comfort sustain in the game anymore, in fact I can hardly consider him to be that amazing of a sustain with characters like Fu Xuan and now Aventurine who provide much better and much more comfortable sustain. Luocha will never stop you from being one shot or two shot, which is very possible especially when his auto heal is on cooldown. This isn't me just hating on him, I've had luocha since his first banner. It's just that in my time playing the game he is lowkey mid and I'm replacing him full-time with a preservation unit

[@karuiGaming]

Your videos are pretty nice to listen to, and have great points. Subscribed!

[@TntEffectTnt]

Nut Nation! I love it! Love your videos they help me sort through the noise alot!

[@xDJxChowwy]

Nut Nation!!!! Just found ur channel today and tho I've been playing since day 1, ur content is still sooo good especially for new players. Keep it up man!

[@EnBelli]

This is why I love your videos. You don't push the must pull but give very good reasons on why you might want the unit and teams the unit would be good for. Everyone else is just Oh he broken must pull get now. For me I might try to get him on his rerun but right now while he might be good he is not what I need for my team waiting on HuoHuo.

[@Nbrvin]

Here is my best argument for Luocha: As Acheron is so broken, to counter the meta, very soon we are going to see stages with mobs that have debuff immunity, this will immediately make Loucha viable because Buff removal is an incredibly underrated part of his kit. In addition just like debuff immunity is a meta so is buff removal, as shielding is a buff, this will also increase value of healers. these things along with his skill point efficiency and ease of use, I think still makes Luocha a top tier unit.

[@John-wt2xq]

damn i was waiting for a good argument (not to be hateful i love luocha but this is so speculative and that type of enemies will come and go, plus usually you wanna focus on one big enemy just use pela’s skill on them and remove the buff)

[@elchingon12346]

Counterpoint: Pela and Luka can do this and proc The Abyss too

[@Stolbergx]

There is no way enemies will ever have debuff immunity, otherwise that just makes characters like Kafka, swan, etc, straight up useless. This is as cope as it gets.

[@arjunmuruganandam3373]

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[@seelyze]

Bro you sound like a philosophy teacher who's about to teach me the ways of life

[@Bliz0th]

YEP as expected. Very informative and good takes as usual. I especially like the way you make these videos catering for others to think for themselves. But providing base knowledge and delivering it in such an easy way to understand! keep up the great work man! ppc

[@Nuttyjuice01]

xdd

[@secretorthodox5570]

Fun to watch , always learn something new

[@rhinehartdejucos971]

I just viewed a video for the first time in your channel and I was not expecting to be called as one of the NUT NATION 😂

[@This_Origami]

Luka skill removes buffs too.

[@Nuttyjuice01]

Did not know that, thanks!

[@Nynzy]

@@Nuttyjuice01 He needs a majour trace to do it, so if you do not really use him then easy to miss~

[@nikonFB1988]

Nut Nation! 🤣 Great video as always!

[@zaahruq]

You're a future 🎉economist who plays HSR. Thanks for your input w/o the hype. It really helps as a newer player you have no 💡. .

[@jimmyh2019]

Fu Xuan has carried me so hard in this game, regardless of the other team members. I will pull on her eidolon every time she pops up until she is E6. I will die after she is E6 because my life will be complete.

[@vladilenamilize7921]

Lol same

[@rust5427]

All luocha really needs is a DPS that has a talent that turns surplus heals into shields. That way your team will not get 1 shotted, while we're at it let's say once the shield is capped the incoming heal turns to energy in that way luocha also turns into a harmony unit

[@winstonjohngutual2318]

That would probably be impossible since the only path who could have anything to do with shields are preservation units and that would basically be too op with luocha because of full uptime shield. But knowing that acheron exists it may just be possible.

[@Tartaglia-zg1vw]

E2 Luocha....

[@txkisvki5824]

Yeah, already 1 year into the game and theres a unit that basically ignores an aspect of the game which is toughness elements so its not far fretched to that something like that would be possible in the future ​@winstonjohngutual2318

[@mugipyon723]

The harmony unit = E1 Luocha The shield with overheal = E2 Luocha

[@rust5427]

@mugipyon723 yeah but you need eidolons for that, not everyone will want an e1 luocha when they could an e0 luocha AND an e0 fu xuan/aventurine

[@marsinaresvt]

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[@Dai_Kyun]

Proud to be part of NUT Nation. May your reign expand across the world and beyond.

[@chinatsu-qw7il]

I was sold on fu Xuan a long time ago and saved over 140 wishes for her and a 100% guarantee by losing on IL. And now you are skillfully selling me Aventurine for my Clara which is arguably the only character in my roster that is not garbage. Pls have mercy, I'm f2p ;_; Oh and... NUT NATION FTW

[@Myuuchu]

Thanks for the explanations! Was wondering who to pull also since I lost my 50:50 trying to get Luocha x.x The team in question is: Dan Heng Lunae, Sparkle, Tingyun, ??? .... Which support would be better then for this team? I'm kinda new to the game so still a bit lost ahaha

[@loleaupoki]

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[@Albin021]

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[@swagis4men]

btw with removing debuffs its not just pela and luocha, luka E can do it also!

[@DavidWoodMusic]

Buffs*

[@zackharden247]

I'm curious to what people's thoughts are about yangqing stocks going up with the introduction of a new limited banner shielder. While it's not as obvious of dr + topaz teams you can still get FUA value as well

[@tomasjoaquindiez3112]

i have only luocha or gepard + trend S2 LC for my acheron. Should i go for aventurine or fu?

[@montemanjay]

I lost a 50/50 to Gepard back in the Black Swan patch. I haven't built him yet, been using Huo Huo and Lynx for now. Don't have Fu or Luo but I do have a Bailu unbuilt as well. Would you roll for Adventurine or just properly invest in Gepard?

[@Bliz0th]

LMFAOOOO the opening of this video is pure gold. Just started watching it and already know it's a good one!

[@ghotyolocanisyn2880]

When field is active, it’s best to hold the ult. wait for it to disappear and ur back at 0/2. If the enemy gets a buff, use it, if luocha heals and u get 1/2, instantly trigger the ult.

[@ghotyolocanisyn2880]

Few reasons why I got luocha 1. Started in 2.0 (skipped black swan / dhil) 2. Lore, kit, husbando 3. Needed a better healer (abundance), my best 2 were e0 lynx and e0 bailu I still don’t know if my impatience will wait for fu Xuan but I wanna try skip aventurine (save me some $$) and just e0s1 jingliu (maybe e1s1, we’ll see)

[@danishbhat2607]

The man the myth the legend

[@polygonDust]

I can't wait for Nut Nation November

[@Nuttyjuice01]

Wait you might be on to something...

[@beefyjoe]

Yo, that Mayuri Raid notification is GOATED

[@Cba409]

Dude, i love you.

[@ViolentEuthymia]

NUT NATION IS HERE!

[@frzack_.]

Nut nation is wild😂

[@aiya2324]

will have all of them soon just aventurine noww

[@patrick6210]

Is aventurine or Fu xuan better for Acheron? Cause I have her

[@harshpandya7834]

I have loucha and huo huo and I get one shot often in su end game, thus why I'm getting aventurine (not fu xuan cuz I like aventurine cuz of character)

[@monke-mk5]

Me too, still doesn't have gepart also.

[@pooyayaddasht2419]

I also used huohuo on G&G c12 it's perfectly fine if you choose that destruction 3* blessing that spread the damage among everyone but aventurine 100% going to be better

[@IisLasagna]

​@@monke-mk5I have e1. Can I trade for Acheron(I lost the 50/50😭)

[@Display.Offline]

Im playing blade and jingliu with ruan mei wich healer ise better

[@AnonWalrus]

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[@Ohnmi]

So should I get fu xuan or adventurine ?

[@iliketrainz4030]

i havent seen the whole video yet but I would assume that if you have huo huo, u should pull one of the preservation characters and just skip luocha. Pros and con of each character: Adventurine: pros -His shield gets buffed like crazy in simulated universe. -His shield can stack meaning you can adjust skill usage depending on enemies. -He does non negligible dmg from his abilities and gets a crap ton of crit rate when you stack DEF. -He increases the damage ceiling of your team since your crit damage is increased overall. -he himself resists cc debuffs when he gets his FUA -his ultimate counts as a debuff for acheron slashed dream and dr ratio trace and talent buff -can be used with trend light cone for acheron without losing much shield -pretty good break that can be paired with boothill and acheron Cons: -knight of purity palace is likely his best 4pc which means that you lose a lot of value when grinding to the lightning set which not many characters use -loses a debuff without his signature light cone(unless you use trend but its trash if the enemy has burn res) -does less dmg without his signature -loses a lot of team dmg(less comparative to fuxuan without lc) without his lc Fuxuan: -provides crit rate to your characters which leads to a more consistent clear. -is quantum which is cracked with sparkle mono quantum with either seele or qq -does non negligible damage in mono quantum sparkle teams -literally prevents you from getting cc for the whole team -she does not die unless ur doing conundrum 5 but to be fair its evil -you can farm relics and get messenger and blade relics simultaneously meaning grinding is very efficient cons -theres not really anything that would increase her hp other than her lc -loses a lot of energy regen without her signature -e1 is a significant team damage increase

[@StarryniteTrist]

Fu Xuan is also good for mutliwave since the passive healing between them, and thought the Eidolon gives protection from one shots. I think damage blocking / mitigation > healing.

[@JR_Zart]

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[@anhtuancao4167]

is it recommended to use aventurine as sustain in archeon team ? new player here and using E0 Archeon , Pela E3, Gui E0 and Natasha right now

[@thefearturkey6944]

Yes his ult provides a pretty good debuff for the team. If you have universal market a preservation light cone can give her more stacks just by him getting hit.

[@bepo1702]

​​@@thefearturkey6944 and his signature LC also gives stacks on every follow up that he does, but trend should do the job just fine, and might even be better for acheron teams in particular

[@Iyoverse]

NUT NATION!!

[@goldenboxen6430]

Aventurine is fun af to play a preservation unit with strong shields that stacks and with aoe follow up attacks and he's drippy with cool looking animations skipping on him would be insane

[@taoofss1]

Huohuo e1 is pretty under rated. Team up with RM speed buff.

[@berltrin5565]

_PROUD TO BE IN_ *NUT NATION*

[@mismagia]

i think 4 sustains is gonna be my end game goal fu xuan for crit healing aventurine for crit shielding huo huo for DoT healing and insert future sustain for DoT shielding but its not something im really prioritising though since i have gepard and fu xuan already

[@ashleythetwin6653]

Welcome from Nut Nation xdd

[@JJ-mn3nd]

I wanna hug the dog in the beginning it’s so cute

[@CTN404]

I already got E6 FX, so I wouldn’t mind an Aventurine for my preservation collection.

[@Samwise_genji]

I'm still deciding whether I want to be a part of nut nation or stay as just a xdder

[@QUixilver05]

Nut naysh!

[@thatswedishfool]

I'm pulling for Future seeing pepto bismol. Though i accidentally got Coffin healer on a random "i want ghallager eidolons" 10 pull.

[@Be727z]

Man I’d really appreciate it if you put captions on these. The automatic ones cannot handle star rail terminology lol

[@the_dark_soul_of_man]

My problem is that I want Fu Xuan, Houhou, and Aventurine as well. Am having a real hard time deciding. I have a DoT Kafka team and am building an E0S1 Acheron team. Which one should I save for more if I have to choose?

[@RosiaAsha]

get fu xuan

[@imerebus]

You should pull for ruan mei and welt. If the enemies are dead or never get to attack then why do you need sustain.

[@vizardoYT]

ARISE NUT NATION

[@akali_irl]

could you make a video about the best sustain for acheron? im really torn on what to do

[@muichirotokito5906]

Preservation unit with trend of the universal market LC is the best for her.

[@akali_irl]

@@muichirotokito5906 yeah was just wondering which preservation character is best

[@ilikechorizopizza0]

as a min max type player, i'm sold on avent urine

[@winstonjohngutual2318]

As a clara and ratio enjoyer, i see aventurine as a big W

[@th3docta401]

Didn't watch the video yet, but that's an exceptionally pattable dog

[@mongrelshadow14]

I already own Fu Xuan so I'm just going to pull for Aventurine. The main idea being I'd have a second sustain for another team instead of everyone fighting over my Fu Xuan. Also I am dabbling in PF so he's going to be really nice for that. The one problem I have is I want to pair him with Ratio and unfortunately I can't hand over Pela or SW for debuffing for him since my Acheron team uses them both. Oh well. I feel like I have enough damage units atm anyway so I think Aventurine is the second smartest thing for my account. Next to getting cracked harmony units. (rip me skipping mei,houhou, and sparkle.)

[@Megenos]

Fu Xuan is like Zhongli to me. He allows me to unga with my teams. Usually I have to think of survival in building and team comps but Fu Xuan remedies that. She allows me to turn my brain off for the most part and just unga or put the game on auto. Also my blade and Clara love her

[@yavnrh]

Bruh! These skips hurt! 😢

[@Don_tfw]

who will be the best for boothill

[@laul1771]

Luocha’s buff stripping is so niche since some boss’ buff cannot be removed

[@Natsudude43]

instructions unclear now i have all three

[@gabrielbrc5359]

What is the best sustain for the team acherone0s1 sw and pela, i need a sustain but dont know who i should go for

[@yavnrh]

Probably fire trailblazer (taunt) or Gepard (increased aggro), both with Trend light cone. Fu Xuan doesn't get hit too often. Aventurine may be good too.

[@rajamrifqi5764]

Gallagher unironically

[@Arun-wn4in]

Nut nation for the win

[@paullim3434]

NUTT NATION RISE UP

[@paragonviolet1719]

We are the nut nation

[@runelt99]

Nuts!

[@florian9613]

WE ARE NUTTING WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣

[@ebensimarmata4706]

I got luocha because i regret in the past i don't have him + because hi3 player + his rerun 5 year later

[@Boyahda]

Its Nutting time 💪

[@xHrdly]

I was building up pity on loucha banner and then after like 20 pulls got himeko (which I didn’t have) and thought I would have the guaranteed for aventurine, oh boy was I wrong, as Loucha was in the same multi (don’t have him either so big W)

[@notarealfirstnamenotareall746]

I got Bailu as my first ever 5 star. And then I've failed every 50/50 since then for any other healer/sustain. I'll take literally anyone at this point.

[@JustKeishii]

Same here.. Lost 50/50 for huohuo and fu xuan T-T

[@notarealfirstnamenotareall746]

@@JustKeishii Yeah, when I pulled for Huohuo the game decided I needed Yanquing. Luocha's banner gave me Gepard, and I got Gepard instead of Fu Xuan.

[@hiunamto0313]

“...and then I met the bug...”

[@Toast-Chan]

Clara is my Fu Xuan replacement and she is goated 💪🏻

[@teo2805]

No Luocha regrets. I have Gallagher for Acheron and Luocha for SP. If the enemy is Weak to Imaginary then he's even nuttier 😊

[@ML-yn9yu]

Same! no regrets pulling for him. I'm getting Adventurine for the 2nd team.

[@ElectrickkPanini]

same 🤝

[@SeanTheShinigami]

As someone who wanted and had Luocha since his og release, he's definitely carried a lot of fights for me with the cleanse and passive talent healing. Also, the buff removal on ult is lovely.

[@purplefrosty90]

I am pulling for both too

[@elfawne]

Yeah same, I got E4 Gallagher for Acheron. And my Luocha on my DHIL team.

[@masterplusmargarita]

I wanted Aventurine because he seems like an almost strictly better Gepard who I run all over the place, but I also wanted Acheron really badly because she's got the coolest ult in the game and... I just want her, OK? I missed my 50/50 at 84 pulls and then went to 79 pulls before getting her, so as a f2p I'm dead broke and will probably miss out on Aventurine. If the 4 stars on his banner are good I might still drop what Jade I do have into it in the vain hope of getting lucky and nabbing him, at least I'll build some pity.

[@user-ow1iz7th3i]

The 4 stars on his banner are sadly terrible

[@bepo1702]

lynx, luka and serval are the 4 stars on his banner

[@Samwise_genji]

​@@bepo1702confirmed?

[@bepo1702]

@@Samwise_genji yep, they confirmed it back in 1934 when the 2.1 live stream happened

[@tiltltt]

WE'LL KEEP NUTTING NUT NATIONNNNN

[@jleg8586]

So who is the best sustain for acherons team?

[@gdg586]

Adven or Gallagher

[@Zoeila]

People are seriously sleeping on Clara + Aventurine and she has 35% built in effect res

[@jiin9282]

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[@Ma-wv9bn]

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[@avenventurinrine]

rat urine ftw

[@seraby7151]

raturine

[@Ma-wv9bn]

@@seraby7151 rip 💀💀💀

[@darksplash873]

If fu xuan is in 2.2 I will probably be skipping aventurine. Only if there's a character I don't want/need revealed to be in 2.2 I'd go for him, but I'm satisfied with my gepard for now, while I need better sustain options for my mono quantum team

[@justkev17]

Nut Nation 🫡

[@runelt99]

I'm rolling for Aventurine cuz Gepard isn't good enough for me. The fact that his skill lets me get shield is huge, as a problem with Geppy for me is that I ult to get shield, boss makes one attack and most of the shield is gone and some characters are already taking damage. That would be fine for Aventurine but by time Gepard gets his energy to have another shield, my team is already dead.

[@kenebert7890]

Hi, I have a e0 Acheron ,e0 kafka, e0 Pela team but I can’t decide if I should bring luocha e0 as my sustainer or e4 gallagher?

[@michaelhuang7007]

Gallagher for the debuffs for Acheron

[@Hol__Up]

Lmao, I've got nothing to worry about in regards to this. I have Luocha, Fu Xuan and I'm getting Aventurine too, have guaranteed and 99 pulls saved for him. No I do not have any limited damage dealers. Is it a problem? Yes, definitely, it's a *big* problem. Am I gonna stop pulling for sustainers? Not until they stop making them look so damn good.

[@amaliasara]

something that is stronger than the teams, Family

[@criccode2993]

Luka's skill also removes a debufff

[@nardboy950]

NUT NAAATTIIIOOOONNNN

[@jakoby256]

They're all great sustain units so just pull on whoever you think is hotter.

[@deshawnnelson742]

I don’t know if he mentions it but like… Gallagher is SO good with Acherons team and I think people really undersold it early on for some reason

[@deshawnnelson742]

I’m just curious to see what the 5* “version” of gall will be it’s gonna have to be a 5* that does what he does similarly in the future

[@kennethyoung7457]

Because he is not better than E0 Gepard(not even close to E2 gepard) with Trend LC. Any preservation with Trend LC will just give more debuffs than Gallagher will ever be able to do. If they make an LC that can increase aggro for abundance units gallagher will go way up in usage.