Should You Shoot At 24FPS or 60FPS?

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[@xjet]

When I drop a high-framerate video clip on a low-rate timeline I always add some motion blur in post. Makes a *huge* difference.

[@cmdr.shepard]

Except motion blur added in post not only takes a long time to process but also looks strange and artifacty.

[@3n19ma]

@@cmdr.shepard depends of the slowmotion you are using, rsmb is just ass

[@SaintoraXBL]

@@3n19ma what’s wrong with rsmb?

[@laurenthenry]

@@SaintoraXBL RSMB, Resolve Motion Blur ?

[@SaintoraXBL]

@@laurenthenry doesn’t answer the question

[@steventaputoro]

I can’t tell you how long I’ve been looking for a video with this explanation! Thanks so much!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Happy you found this! Thanks brotha!

[@curt8806]

Hi you can easily sync. 60fps with your audio. This man is spreading misinformation. 60frames over one second and one second worth of sound will always sync up given you start them at the right time on your timeline. What a Dufus.

[@DenisLoncaric]

@@DannyGevirtz what do you suggest for drum covers where there is a lot of hand movement but in editing not gonna be slowed down?

[@JonValtandtheEvilRobots]

Totally agree. Pretty much every tip / fact in this video is wrong. For example, if you’re shooting with a shutter speed 2x your frame rate, it’s so you AVOID motion blur.

[@TheMusicRecordingNetwork]

for day s of looking and 4 minutes to get all my research answered.... wow

[@JamesVancePresents]

I do weddings and I shoot everything at 60fps, because I don't know what I want to slow down in post. But everything that has dialog I shoot it in 24fps, like the ceremony and toast.

[@JamesVancePresents]

Kevin Cervantes Ibarra so the audio doesn’t go off sync

[@ablemediaworks6733]

Same. You are a man who clearly knows what’s up

[@ssneg]

@@JamesVancePresents just us Plural Eyes or other software to sync audio to video and correct audio drift. No need to choose artistic methods based on some tech limitation that can be easily removed.

[@moreauphoto]

Same here. 60 allows for slow motion b-roll but at 24fps I can have a 180 degree shutter at 1/48 instead of 1/120 which helps a lot with low light, which is important since most wedding locations are DARK

[@DannyGevirtz]

Great strategy man!

[@aliquandoinsanireiucundume9017]

Thanks for making me finally understand the point in those fps values.

[@DannyGevirtz]

haha happy I could help! Thanks for watching!

[@GeekTherapyRadio]

Great video! Another thing to consider is image "noise". For the same lighted shot, 24FPS @ 1/48 shutter with 100 ISO will be a super clean image. Under the same light at 60 FPS, you'll have to increase ISO to 200, 400, maybe more to make up for the 1/120 shutter capturing less light per frame. Higher ISO means more image noise. It all boils down to your rule of thumb at the end of the video. Shoot at 24 FPS when you KNOW you won't need slow motion (interviews, etc). Shoot at 60 FPS or higher when you KNOW you'll need slow motion clips.

[@dirtlifemagazine]

Thanks for this tip!

[@TylerEdwards]

Great topic! Even when I’m filming weddings, I’m 50/50 between 24p and 60p. Even reception stuff gets old when it’s all slo-mo. 🤙🏼

[@DannyGevirtz]

Totally agree man. Thanks for commenting brotha!

[@MindfulGamer]

I'm just going to echo what everyone else was saying. I can't believe 60fps was giving me so much issue! Thank you very much!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Of course! Thanks so much!

[@OscarLee.THRCru2]

Hi :) ¿What if I film 60 fps with a shutter speed of 1/60 (or something like that) and then render it at 24fps? Does that fix the problem of staccato motion blur? Can I do slowmotion with that? Greetings from México. Great video

[@stopandplaythisreel]

I do that all the time. Best solution because the motion blur we're used to is at real speed and nobody has the expectation of what slow motion should look like. I shoot high end car commercials like this and nobody has ever complained. The idea that it ruins the footage is ridiculous.

[@TerenceKearns]

The other thing you didn't mention is that the less frames per second, the more data per frame at a given bitrate. So the image quality shot at 24fps 100mbit will be better than the image quality shot at 60fps 100mbit. Bitrate should be measured in mbits/frame rather than mbits/sec when it comes to determining quality.

[@carlosmarco01]

Ohh bro I was looking for this answer all day long, that’s means if I want to use 60fps which is the best bitrate for that?

[@TerenceKearns]

@@carlosmarco01 when it comes to capture, as high as the camera will allow. When it comes to encoding for publishing, as high as you can get away with. There's no singular number to answer that as there are multiple factors such as screen resolution, output platform (HDR vs SDR), and mostly content (fast moving vs slow, grainy vs smooth) etc. Just go for the high option when using high framerates.

[@Timi7007]

Everyone is always just like "shoot 24, it's cinematic" but nobody explains why, except for that 24 FPS is used in cinemas. So thank you very much for this actual explanation!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Yeah of course man! It's all about the motion blur!

[@DerEliSpielt]

underrated channel, your videos are way too well made for your sub count and you are a cool dude

[@DannyGevirtz]

Damn man that was awesome of you to say. Thank you. I appreciate you man!

[@DerEliSpielt]

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[@ff4444]

Keeping your shutter slow also provides more light which is helpful indoors and at night.

[@giolee1274]

Man,all your videos are extremely helpful. Great content every single time. 👌

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks so much Gio! Gotta get back on the grind lol

[@ponkagames]

Thank you. I had been looking for this answer for days on KZbin. You finally answered it perfectly. Thank you again.

[@arifazhad4541]

Yo, i know this is an old video but thank you so much. Your explanation is the answer i’ve been looking for. All the other youtubers just say the basic things which didn’t help. You did. Thank you❤

[@AJ-em2rb]

i got an idea, shoot 30/60 fps, upload and edit in 30/60 fps, and let 24fps go extinct! It's an old standard that only exists due to the technological limitations of the "golden age of cinema". It also doesn't even display properly on most screens developed today. Afterall, tradition is merely the dead's way to peer-pressuring the living.

[@mozinoz_digital]

Thx for sharing tips. I shoot surfing videos at 50fps & speed ramping 50% for SloMo effects. GH5 & Olympus 40-150pro lens.

[@aeroluis81]

I have been looking for this explanation for ever, thanks man!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Dude of course! Thank you for watching!

[@garypranzo9334]

Thanks, Great Video I shoot adult content for clients and they want 60fps even when the action does not call for it. I prefer 24fps (23.97) most of the time but rarely shoot in 24p anymore, I miss my old HVX200a, the 720p at 24 was fantastic (I used to set the color profile to a non realistic vibrant color setting) which my clients liked. Now I set color profiles to whatever the camera can best do for color grading in post. I now deliver files mostly at 1080p 60fps and funny thing is I rarely get requests for 4K but do for 60 all the time. My only 4k content is with VR. 60fps and as much pixels as possible is crucial for VR, I deliver VR at "180 4k 3D 60fps" or "360 mono 4k 60fps" Of course I will transition to non VR 4K soon and when I do it will be at 60fps of course.

[@StoryUnlocked]

This was such a straight to the point and clear answer to that question! 1. The shutter speed that you shot something on doesn't change when you put it in the 24 fps timeline 2. Shoot things where there will be audio in 24 fps because if it's shot in 60 fps, and put in the timeline, things might not match up perfectly anymore. Awesome take aways!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks so much Erin! Glad it was clear for ya!

[@QuicksilverSG]

Frame rate can have a noticeable effect on the perceived smoothness of slow camera panning shots. The slower the frame rate, the choppier the pan will look, and there's a hidden pitfall those who shoot in 24 fps often encounter. Most monitors and TV's refresh their image at 60 Hz. Since 24 fps does not divide evenly into 60, that 24 fps footage produces an uneven refresh rate when displayed at 60 Hz, which can make slow pans look ragged. To produce the smoothest pans for display on 60 Hz monitors, the best camera frame rates are 60 fps and 30 fps. As for the 180-degree shutter rule, this attempt to mimic the revolving shutter of vintage film cameras often fails to produce the desired cinematic effect in digital video cameras. That's because the rolling shutter effect of digital cameras smears the temporal edge of the electronic shutter, even when the camera is stationary. What's even more noticeable about shutter speed is the amount of motion blur it produces, which is determined solely by the numerical shutter duration, not the shutter angle. A natural amount of motion blur is produced by a shutter speed of 1/60th to 1/48th second. Consequently, when shooting at 60 fps for a 60 fps timeline, a 1/60th sec shutter speed produces smoother motion blur than the 1/120th sec shutter speed you would get from using the 180-degree shutter rule.

[@eamonshields2754]

Very interesting! So for KZbin content you recommend 30 and 60 FPS with shutter speed being same as frame rate?

[@e1622zelda]

In almost All TV shows and the whole film industry 24 frames per second is the standard. Pretty much every single movie you’ve seen and all the Pixar CG movies are 24 frames a second.

[@welovedji1116]

Depends thou... with the shutter speed, not always doubles. In case you are inside in Us or Europe, might get some flikkering shadows if play by the double rule.

[@alejandrocampollo]

when you are not sure if you are gonna use it at 24fps or in slow motion better to go safe and shoot 60fps... you can add motion blur with plugins, i use this only when i don't know what i will need

[@natek9036]

Nice quick and straight to the point

[@Ben-id1tc]

Could you give a shot of your current lighting setup you used for this video. Love the look.

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks dude! Nothing crazy. I just have a soft source as a key doing some rembrandt style. The I have a harsher edge light directly up and behind me thats coming out tungsten.

[@Ben-id1tc]

@@DannyGevirtz Oh awesome. Thanks! I always see this look and wonder if someone is firing a light from the floor towards the wall behind you to get almost a halo effect around the body, But i guess it's just the hard light's spill hitting the back wall from above?

[@DannyGevirtz]

@@Ben-id1tc I think some people do that for sure. I was just trying to keep it simple! But yeah that's spill from the overhead edge light.

[@PaulJoy]

I just shoot at 50 fps with a 1/50 shutter, that way if you drop half the frames the normal speed results look correct and if you slow the footage to half speed it will still be correct as the viewer will be seeing 24 fps with a 1/50 shutter. People have become obsessed with sticking to shooting with 180 degree shutter when shooting off speed but In my mind the 180 degree shutter should apply to final delivery speed not recording speed. If you're delivering at 60 fps then thats when it should be 1/120.

[@TasteNSmile]

Hi Danny. I make food videos and shoot close-up. I used iPhone SE till now and want to upgrade to a camera. Suggest me a good one from- Canon 200D mark 2, M 50 or sony a 6000. Thats my budget. I wont go for for G7X M2. I am looking for a chargeable lens camera. Please help. Thanks

[@JimTheKid]

Wow you got a lot of subs since then

[@TasteNSmile]

@@JimTheKid who me?

[@SURYAKUMAR-uz3ij]

I would recommend canon M50 because of the light weight and compact. And just by a adapter and u can use all lenses of canon hope it helps :)

[@TasteNSmile]

@@SURYAKUMAR-uz3ij ok

[@Chinoman10]

@@TasteNSmile quick tip if you go for the M50. If you're gonna shoot mostly in-doors with poorly lit conditions, instead of getting the Canon adaptor for EF lenses, go for the "Viltrox SpeedBooster" which will effectively give you more natural brightness since you're using all the Fullframe area rather than simply cropping it down because of the APS-C sensor. There's literally a dozen or even more videos about this awesome adaptor. My only downside is that I can't use EF-S lenses... only EF (fullframe).

[@thewirv]

What you said definitely makes sense. But nobody else is mentioning the fact that 60 frames don't divide evenly by 24? If you put a 60fps video on a 24fps timeline it'll look wrong in motion in any case, because it can't evenly distribute those 60 source frames onto 24 timeline frames. For example, with 60 to 30, the timeline just drops every other frame, but with 24 you have a ratio of 2.5:1 so it's basically dropping two frames any other time.

[@MegaSteamfreak]

Never thought about it but very logic

[@DannyGevirtz]

Glad you liked it! Thanks!

[@MegaSteamfreak]

@@DannyGevirtz In fact this could also be applied for the shutter speed for taking pictures for a time lapse

[@thelukieshow]

damn son, this video blowing up. Been subbed for a long time and have seen amazing growth. keep it up man! love it.

[@pauloalberton]

Hello Danny. 30 is half of 60, therefore more compatible, no? Shouldn't the question be "Should you shoot 30fps or 60fps?" Wouldn't 30/60 relation make more sense for audio sync, render or for deciding for slow later in post? Thanks.

[@getfmlr]

Its not about compatibility as much as the filmic look. 24fps and 48/50 shutter speed is the ideal frame rate for filmic quality. If you shoot at 60fps and slow down to 30fps you can only slow it down by half. Slowing down to 24fps gives you even slower motion. In the end it comes down to choices as almost all Television is shot at 30fps and almost all Movie films are shot at 24fps. Thats why you can sometimes tell when a movie is made for tv or theaters.

[@RaviSingh-be3mx]

thank you so much..you are clear and know whats your talking about...what effect are you using in this video for yourself(this video)..do you have some softboxes and a backdrop?..the reason im asking is I love that style but not sure how the experts do it, appreciate your reply!..cheers

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks so much! Appreciate you a ton!! Just a soft key and a harder edge behind me with a dark grey background

[@raulgolfs]

Geezus brotha, that intro explanation is exactly what I record and timeline at. nice edit bud I had no idea I was doing this!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Glad it was helpful dude! Thank you!

[@_purejosh]

Professionally done. Good work!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks so much Joshua!

[@s0uverains95]

24fps cinematic standard, the perfect framerate. Nerds.

[@NoraSvet]

I always wondered about this. Thank you for clearing it up! 😃👍

[@DannyGevirtz]

Of course! Thank you!

[@rinusworldzm]

This is really great stuff. I want to l8mit myself to shoot 24fps all the time. No slow mo. I want to challenge myself by getting a camera that doesn't shoot higher than 30fps. Like leave it at 24 and shoot.

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thats an awesome challenege man! I do it all the time. Thanks for watching!

[@rinusworldzm]

@@DannyGevirtz my pleasure man.

[@tobiasjones7242]

That lighting is so nice dude 😍

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks man!

[@arlenaholmes]

Loving your channel Danny!

[@shaykhriyadh]

Always wanted this answered. Good man

[@DannyGevirtz]

Glad to hear it! Thanks man!

[@macfelton]

What makes you say the audio will not sync to a 60FPS video as well as it would on 24FPS?

[@lukeparkour3712]

I know that I shouldn't film the all videos with 60fps But, it's super hard to stop thinking that 'What if I need to slow this clip down?' Although I know I'm not going to 🤣

[@i-am-mai7133]

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[@priyonjoni]

This video not only improved by video shooting, but saved me more on render time and storage because I wasn't shooting everything at 60fps.

[@EhlieLuna]

Straight to the point 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@Herosoulstone]

Or you can add back in that natural motion blur. But audio is a good point!

[@TVRCreators]

Good video 👍🏻. Helpful. + 60fps bigger files too. Defo agree 🎬🎥

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thank you man!

[@SnaVlog6109]

Thank you hope brother.

[@DannyGevirtz]

Yes sir! Thanks for watching!

[@boiguy859]

I feel like if your making like a cinematic live action video or animation I think it would be like 24fps and for like a gaming video of some sort it would probably be like 60fps

[@ChristinaPistone]

Thanks so much for this explanation! Super helpful!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Yeah for sure! Glad it helped ya out. Thanks for watching!

[@DanielWhiteWithCanon]

Great video explaining it really quick.

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks Daniel! Glad you liked it man!

[@MarlonKingShow]

Nice video and reasoning. That said, as you said, only someone who works with film will really notice. For my vlogging, I keep it on 60fps for ultimate flexibility. That said, if you are doing pro projects then maybe its worth switching between. All the best from UK.

[@facelessman316]

Fantastic video! Thank you so much!

[@BoredAsUsual4675]

💯💯💯 perfect video man explained it so well

[@DannyGevirtz]

Glad you thought so man! Thank you!

[@RomainGierenz-filmmaker]

Its all about story, gear and technical stuff is the last thing a filmaker should worry about

[@Quattordici]

Hi! I am confused... What about moto vlogs? I am not going to slow anything down, I just wanna catch as much moving objects around, as I can. Should I go for 60 or 24/30?

[@ritual301]

Super useful video. Thanks man:)

[@LucidComposureUk]

Simple and to the point. Thank you, Loved the examples. Subscribed!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Glad you thought so! Thanks Johnny!

[@rayyanes]

You can also use 180 degrees instead of shutter speed.

[@DannyGevirtz]

Yep! I said that

[@hutchrt0596]

I really have needed more advice when it comes to this and all of the frame rates and even when it's best to use for what occasions.

[@sethadam4266]

60fps is great for butter smooth slow motion & speed ramping, I agree with you not to use it in static conversation video, you didn't mention the file size that comes along with 4K 60fps apposed to 24.

[@DannyGevirtz]

Yeah! But I would never export a video at 60fps which is why unless I intend to slow down a clip I shoot it at 24. File size is definitely something to consider

[@sethadam4266]

@@DannyGevirtz I shoot at 60fps & 4K, I manage my files after every edit, exporting to YT requires some patience.

[@andrebossphotography7967]

Thanks for the explanation and the great video!

[@MumsHandmade]

one of the best videos . nice.

[@NRGRX]

Shooting at higher frame while hand holding is helpful to minimize shake when you slow it down a bit.

[@MotherRupaul]

Thank you

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thank YOU for watching!

[@djtonytoneBKS]

Good stuff, well explained. Thank You

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks so much!

[@siemore]

I do more action type videos and even if not I just hate it when a clip is below 30fps. Maybe my eyes are too good, but it always looks choppy to me. I also always use a shutter a bit higher than double the frame rate. Otherwise it looks too soft for my eyes. Soft Picture combined with a choppy image? No 24 fps for me.

[@tedgathura3178]

Thank you for this video, mate. just saved me from a big mistake.

[@petreskyfilms]

Aaah!!! Very helpful ~ thanks!

[@CasalREC]

Incredible man =)

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thank you man!

[@telebeater]

Just bought a drone that can shoot at 4k 60fps however the video card could not handle the 60fps. I was going to shoot at 60fps just because I could and I was about to upgrade my GPU thinking I needed to shoot at 60fps but thanks to you I can certainly manage with my current system and just shoot at 24fps and get great videos too. Thank you So Much!

[@marcopej]

Great! Thank you!

[@elisabatesfotoogfilm9281]

@Danny Gevirtz in case of record in 60fps, and made slow motion. What sequence settings should be used on adope premiere, and what settings should be used for export video in the maximum quality for music video uploaded on KZbin.

[@KevinMorris3]

quick to the point !!!

[@tomcatzorro8778]

Slow down talking 😂 Apart from that 👍 ........... 👊😸®️🦸‍♂️

[@DannyGevirtz]

haha have to get it all out!

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[@FreezingFrequency]

Great explaination!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thank you!

[@Finsxlens]

Thanks dude this was super helpful 🙏🏼

[@DannyGevirtz]

Awesome to hear that man ! Thanks so much

[@scottishdroneservices6168]

A question I’ve been looking to get answered for a while because I noticed that the 24fps timeline looks very fake and not natural with footage filmed at 60… like the man says, different frame rates for different scenes, you can’t stick rigidly to one all the time. Thanks for the video 👍🏼

[@Randuski]

I've always shot 24. But the reasons people give for it don't make sense. People always talk about how at 24, the motion blur matches what the human eye would see. But. I'm watching the content with my human eyes. So by that logic even if the content was 60fps, my eyes would naturally add that motion blur wouldn't it? Unless there's some science i don't understand, i think it's just a preference. And that's totally fine on its own haha

[@digital.frenchy]

Hello, I'm doing simple walking tours with the Pocket 2 and doing it at 60fps to emulate bigger channels that advertise their videos with 4K60fps but i wondering if that actually makes sense?

[@KristophTy]

This was awesome thanks

[@wewindvd]

I'm using a Dji osmo action and going to shoot a dance video, what is the best settings? On shooting the video, i'll be recording the music source straight from the speakers and on editing, i'll be using the music and incorporate it on the editing to have a better sound.

[@gclark1612]

Thanks for the advice, found it helpful.

[@DannyGevirtz]

Glad to hear it! Thanks!

[@SummersSnaps]

So in bright conditions, without ND filters, would 60fps be better to control light, you'd be using 1/120 shutter speed right? That has to be better than 24fps which would use only 1/50? How does it work when editing. If I have A roll at 24fps 1/50, and then B roll at 60fps 1/120, doesn't the timeline need to be one or the other? Sorry prolly nub question. :(

[@mrbobik90]

Maybe im just an amateur, but i like the 60 fps converted to 24 better than original 24 fps. Anyway, good stuff.

[@HaotoAnimeOnPiano]

How do we solve the audio syncing problem?

[@ivanshah2326]

Love your videos ♥️♥️♥️

[@AndryFateev]

shiiiiit bro, that what i been trying to find out, like the diff., nobody did video bout that. great job. Also, would be dope if you explain the diff. between Log's, like for example on sony cameras, there are log2, log3, but better not to use log3 at night, because it has 6bit recording some type of shit i dont remember, but that would be very useful:) lol

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks man! Log formats are different for all cameras. clog3 is less aggressive than clog2 in canon for example. Its pretty much a way for the camera to capture as much of the highlights and shadows as possible so you can do what you want in post.

[@aviv32]

so isn't it a okay idea to just do 60fps , and make shutter speed somewhere in the middle around 90-100 ish? that way it will be in the middle for both worlds if ill make the video back to 24fps? that way if i slow motion to 24fps ill have a bit higher shutter speed and if i keep 60fps video ill have a bit lower shutter speed then necassery ?

[@henriqueamendola]

Isn't it a feature in some softwares that ajust that frames that are missing or beeing skipped? Interpolation or something like that.

[@pottuvoi2]

I wonder how soon we can shoot 240fps fully open shutter and get nice result in post when dropping to 24 and/or 60fps. It's dividable with 48fps, so combining 5 frames and dropping the next 5 should give identical result to 24fps with 180 degree shutter. (If the shutter is true 360 or 1/240 shutter.. if not there would be strobe lines in motion blur.)

[@ThoyRikan]

wow

[@tronmoses]

Interesting... I never encountered an issue with audio at 60fps or even 120fps. Everything in my tascam syncs perfectly.

[@DannyGevirtz]

Ive always had a slight timing issue

[@Skinnyriver]

If you want some b roll and you shoot that in 60 FPS, but your project is on a 24 FPS timeline... can you drop that 60 FPS footage into the 24 FPS timeline for editing??

[@busimo]

good comparison examples side by side would be helpful.

[@CHOWIXCHANNEL]

Much thanks brother

[@DannyGevirtz]

for sure! Thank you for watching!

[@axel.lessio]

Hey Danny, what if you're not 100% sure what clips will be in slow motion? Say you do film at 60fps and then think "ok this clip is stupid when slowed down, let's leave the normal speed". In that case there is no way to make it look cinematic?

[@SwissplWatches]

awesome, thank you!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Of course! Thanks!!

[@wrighthausracing9641]

Love it man thank you!!!!

[@DannyGevirtz]

For sure! Thank you man!

[@flohoutdoors1896]

As a new film maker this was extremely helpful! Thanks for the info! I have the Sony A7 S ll on the way and was wondering what will the best camera settings be for an outdoor channel? Can anyone help and thank you in advance.

[@gilpineda]

Sickkk samples!

[@DannyGevirtz]

Thanks so much Gil! Appreciate you a ton!!