DCS World - NATO Aircraft Losses Over Bosnia, 1992-95, Part 2

[@giannis9833]

The Serbs had all the radars switched off and they were using passive sensors (ELINT) to scan for signals.. The anti-air batteries were preemptively dispersed away from their garrisons. When a signal was detected they would switch on the radar for 20 seconds to guide the anti-air missiles and then switch it off again.. This tactic is called emission control (EMCON). They also used many decoys "SAM-launchers" to confuse the Western bombers and consume their expensive weapons without success.

[@showtime112]

Thanks for contributing info!

[@milans.637]

he is croatian my greek bro he knows everything but thanks for your share, your comment is great. Respect from Serbia

[@barryhill1044]

The thing is this... Many systems use The “Mass” of the target as it’s identification... Which means Once the target is seen by the aggressor’s missiles optics Very little interference ( if any ) will stop it impacting the target ! Any Electronic interference would be secondary to the missiles mission because the target would ( by then ) be sighted and targeted .... I’m a novice at these arguments so I am open to contrary argument... this is just my opinion..

[@tomsuh1362]

Future South China Sea!

[@m0rvidusm0rvidus18]

The ''Western''' forces are used to dealing with low IQ populations. They got a few surprises when taking on a European military for a change, even if it was a small one.

[@stevanmedojevic5055]

My friend have parts of this F-16 at home.

[@DadoSG]

I have parts of a Nighthawk. But, i cant see it, its inivisible

[@ГогиСтојнић]

@@DadoSG Only Serbs can see it. 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸

[@lovemym16]

@@ГогиСтојнић bomb bay door must still be open

[@protohass]

Sorry we didn't know it was invisible

[@princybella5386]

Still got your butts kicked though.

[@andrijakostic3941]

Sto se mene tice, 10+ ocena za ovaj video! Samo napred, ovakav sadrzaj je toliko odlican i originalan, da je pitanje momenta kada ce tvoj kanal doziveti nevidjeni uspeh! Smatram da bukvalno ceo svet treba da vidi tvoj trud i posvecenost koji izdvajaju ovaj kanal od svih drugih vezanih za DCS. Puno pozdrava, druze! :-)

[@showtime112]

Puno hvala na ovom komentaru podrške! Drago mi je da si zadovoljan rezultatom.

[@nenadbrkic5761]

@@showtime112 Pohvale za kanal .Imas materijala iz 1999 o bombardovamju RS i CG da su oboreni ili pogodjeni oko 100 aviona Nato alijanse.Plus nekoliko hilihoptera je oboreno punih komandosa koji su trebali da spasu oborene pilote. Milan Vidojevic iznosi Ruske obavestajne podatke mozez pogledati. Zato nato nikad nije izneo svoje gubitke. Sve te podatke mi je potvrdio general u to vreme a sada u penziji Miro Gobovic licno,ali ti podaci nisu smeli nikad javno da se iznose posle 2000 godine jer je Nato ima i danas svoju ispostavu u generalstabu.Puno pozdrava.

[@zekoslav]

@@nenadbrkic5761 aviJona...heliHoptera? I ovakvi koriste internet

[@nenadbrkic5761]

@@zekoslavPravopisna greska se desi u kuckanju,ali izgleda da vam vise smeta zasto su oborene te iste letelice nato bande.

[@Denkooo100]

@@nenadbrkic5761 100 aviona!? Koji je to film???

[@eugeneoreilly9356]

26 seconds sounds right for the SA6 radar as the SA6 is radar guided and the time from launch to impact would roughly equate to that.

[@box8brewing829]

Showtime112, my favorite historical aeronautical DCS channel!

[@showtime112]

Thanks a lot for the words of support!

[@nightlifer1436]

Mirage 2000 which was shot down over Bosnia was a two seater, both pilots survived and were captured.

[@showtime112]

True but we don't have a two-seat version in DCS.

[@spite8431]

Nice finished part 1 like 2 hours ago was wondering when the second part was gonna come out nice work

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much, I hope you liked it.

[@zebradgr8339]

Know of one USAF F-16 that was involved in operations over Bosnia ... While returning to Aviano the plane experienced problems that forced the pilot to land on a small airfield in Slovenia (Portoroz), where it went out of runway and basically crash-landed.

[@showtime112]

I have to say I wasn't familiar with that incident. But I found some mention of it now. I guess it wasn't considered lost but they transported it away with a helicopter.

[@zebradgr8339]

@@showtime112 One can't know every little mishap .... This even is not something worth losing time over, I just know about this because it happened close to my hometown ... they disassembled it and loaded the parts on two low bed trailer trucks, on one the fuselage, on the other the tail section and wings. So yes, I guess it suffered some damage but was not lost (and it didn't go down due to combat damage).

[@ivanstepanovic1327]

The same tactics was used during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia later; SAM crews would use their radars briefly in order to avoid being detected and targeted themselves. Guidance radar was used no more than a few seconds; on launch, then off, then on again seconds before the expected impact. Of course, the chances of scoring a hit that way are lower than having the radar on all the time, but it was safer for the SAMs.

[@ugarit5]

Sa-6 Kub is very good even today,and it has lots of potential for upgrades,NATO considers it a high level threat

[@showtime112]

Yes, it seems that it can be dangerous if the crew knows what they are doing.

[@richardvernon317]

@@showtime112 Its a very good bit of kit, that's why the RAF still operate two real ones on their electronic warfare training range at Spadeadam.

[@soniojercog6529]

@@richardvernon317 fffgb ...

[@oldfashionedwrx3574]

Sa 11 and sa17 are upgrades of sa6/kub Sa27 latest one

[@milostomic8539]

NATO's aerial campaign in Bosnia helped Serbian military to study and predict NATO's pattern in case they attack Serbia & Montenegro (then called Federal Republic of Yugoslavia). The prediction was 95 % correct. The bombing campaign planned to last 5-7 days actually lasted 78 days and nights, during which NATO destroyed 4 % of our military capabilities. What NATO did manage to destroy was infrastructure and economy, around 90 brigdes, 20 factories, road network, railway network, trains, oil rafineries, and in some places hospitals, university buildings and post offices.

[@mr.normalguy69]

Sad to hear that, judging by your comment, I'm assuming it's going to take a long time to recover and improve the economy.

[@rasosteva]

@@mr.normalguy69 Worst thing that happen is that Nato used bombs with uranium. For that reason people in this part of Europe have high numbers of cancer deaths. Nato bomb us(Serbs) but all nations around us suffer from that. Even a lot of soldiers who came here as a peacekeepers died from cancer.

[@milostomic8539]

@@rasosteva Cluster bombs and bombs with expired date of use as well.

[@Sandro-ym8sf]

Nato agression

[@geoeconomics5629]

March 1941 Nazi Germany bombed Belgrade Serbia March 1999 USA empire bombed Belgrade Serbia

[@TheGranicd]

There is info about why he had little time to react. SA6 has launch mode that turns missile guidance 4-5 sec after launch. And that is used when firing 2 missiles from same launcher so second one doesnt have isuess with smoke and debris from first one. Story goes that mode was used but on first missile. Works fine as long target is not doing anything drastic before tracking starts. And in this case it didnt. Also fun fact - ejection seats from M2000 ended being used on late former ambassador to Russia Miroslav Lazanski custom built SUV.

[@showtime112]

That does make sense because otherwise, he would have at least ten seconds to react. But as far as I can tell, warning that he was tracked came before that. I guess he should have reacted immediately. Didn't know about the use of the seat.

[@TheGranicd]

He talked about getting them for his militaristic Dodge. Regarding that mode quote "Cilj je uočen osmatračkim radarom RStON na 20 km daljine i predat nišanskom radaru, koji je na 18 km daljine ostvario zahvat cilja. Na 17 km daljine lansirane su 2 rakete sa intervalom lansiranja od 3 sekunde (režim II zahvat u vazduhu). Na 15 km daljine i oko 5,5 km visine dolazi do pogađanja aviona prvom raketom. Posledica pogađanja je bio da se letelica raspolovila, pa je tako druga lansirana raketa pogodila jedan od delova letelice."

[@KristijanLazic]

@@showtime112 Also, wing from the Mirage 2000 ended in Belgrade newspaper "Politika" head-office at that time. Don't know what happened with it later, but I remember that many journalists take a part of it as a souvenir.

[@richardhasler6718]

Dear Showtime112, thanks for an excellent and informative video, most of which was never clear in the news at the time, or later. From reading some of the comments below, it looks like the war hasn't ended! Kind regards and keep safe!

[@showtime112]

Thank you for watching and commenting! It takes time to fully investigate and understand something. News usually don't have the full picture. As for the comments, you might be right. Some of the issues haven't been resolved. I sometimes feel like just turning off the comment section on every video but then, I wouldn't get the positive feedback either.

[@Deacon271]

Hi! If memory serves me right an F117 A was also shot down. I don’t remember the circumstances though. Would be great to see a recreation of that some day. But great job with all your recreation videos till date, I’ve enjoyed watching them all!

[@showtime112]

Thanks for the comment. The F-117 was shot down during the Operation Allied Force in 1999. That is another conflict (only partly connected with the war in Bosnia). It will probably be covered someday too.

[@hefalump11]

Nighthawk was shoot down by serbian S-125 Newa in 1999. It was the other war.

[@AdamosDad]

Many are saying that the NEVA missile shoot down in 1999, of the F117 made it useless, not so. The Serbs did take good advantage of the fact that with long wave radar they could detect the plane at about 30 kilometers when it opened its bomb bay doors, they had positioned missile batteries along routs that NATO planes were using, which was a bad mistake that planners had made (flying the same rout many times) When they detected the F-117 with doors open they new course and speed and also used optical sightings to shoot, they ripple fired missiles and got lucky. The Serbs were very good and smart shooters but it would not have happened if the NATO planners had done there jobs properly. Besides we lost 1 F-117 and 1 F-16 what did Serbia lose.

[@onlytrue5169]

@@AdamosDad hahahhaha, if NATO told the real truth about the losses, the Netherlands lost only 4 planes and 2 were hit, but they managed to land in Italy

[@AdamosDad]

@@onlytrue5169 Was that in 99'? I'm sorry, I should have said American losses, NATO did the planning and of course the US was a large part of that but, I was only counting US losses. I believe a lot of the mistakes that were made were because they were a bit lazy and following the same routes, was an easy way to make the various forces more interoperable.

[@figmo4227]

This is very well researched, very good job!

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for your support!

[@margaritaviveros8017]

B2 was also shootdown in 1999 and crashed near near the border in Croatia near Spačvanske šume (forest). The f117 was also hit/ and over 20 nato aircraft were destroyed

[@zekirijamustafa2528]

Koliko samo lažeš B1 leta na 30 km visine

[@jovicacekic8854]

@@zekirijamustafa2528 Pojma nemas, bolje cuvaj ovce. Najveca visina ikad dostignuta je5 sa avionom u-2 od 25 km.

[@Kamisama77]

@@jovicacekic8854 Bingo!

[@margaritaviveros8017]

@Timothy Corbitt B2 was definitely hit and brought down

[@iljajekimov4997]

Instant like. As always great show to watch. Thank you Sir.

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much, I appreciate the support!

[@TheHepsterproduction]

This is becoming my favourite channel. Keep it up, mate. Pozdrav iz Slo.

[@showtime112]

Hvala puno!

[@prezimeposlezime3923]

Još jednom, svaka čast na još jednom videu. Ovo niko ne radi na ovaj način i želim ti puno uspeha zbog truda da ovo napraviš. Nadam se da će neko ovo prepoznati i dobro te nagraditi još nečim osim bravo i lajk.

[@showtime112]

Zahvaljujem na podršci!

[@raketize]

i think the reason why captain scott didn't chaff because he was trying to locate direction of missile before doing maneuver and chaffing, by the time first missile pass he probably too late to react. also earlier lock may have given him impression that lock were not from sam

[@showtime112]

That sounds about right.

[@jovan7468]

Imao sam tu srecu da gledam ovo obaranje uzivo. Ono cega se najvise sjecam je da su bile dvije detonacije u razmaku od par sekundi i nakon toga sam vidio avion u plamenu kako pada. Takodje, nekoliko stotina metara dalje od kuce u kojoj sam zivio je pao motor od Kub rakete koja je pogodila avion. Sam pogodak nisam vidio jer se avion u tom momentu nalazio iza oblaka.

[@mino9308]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tmanda323]

Ja sam imao srecu da vidim lika koji je stisnuo dugme ПУСК

[@Haneson]

Love this series, I´ve always told myself I have to search and look how many aircrafts were downed in Yugoslavia (since we travel to Croatia and Slovenia quiet often)...I just would like to ask you - in some of the first videos there are subtitles in balkanian language so I would like to ask what country are you from? Because your videos are neutral (as it should be, and in news for example it is very rare);-)

[@showtime112]

Thanks for the comment! I am from Croatia and for quite some time, I stayed away from doing videos that deal with what happened here fearing that I couldn't be objective. Sure, there are viewers from a certain country in the neighborhood who still think I'm not, but YT is not a democracy and I can easily block them 😁😁😁 To sum up, it's not easy being objective. Even in other cases, there's always a side that I like more but I try not to show it.

[@TrapNewsOfficial]

@@showtime112 pohvale za objektivnost, jos nisam video da se neko na to zalio

[@showtime112]

@@TrapNewsOfficial Oni koji se žale to rade na tako bezobrazan način da in ih YT blokira automatski, ili ja to napravim.

[@Lucifer-dz6eh]

Former Yugoslavia in this period!

[@Boolag01]

I’d love to see you focus on some of the combat seen by the Gazelle helicopter during the Yugoslav war.

[@showtime112]

Gotta learn to fly helicopters first :)

[@CrysisMan96]

Amazing, it would be nice to see more of these scenes over Yugoslavia 1999. Amzing series. Love it.

[@showtime112]

Thanks! It is on a 'to do' list for the future. Stay tuned 😁

[@DiaconescuAlexandru2024]

I really like this series. Also, it must have been very hard to get the sequence at 06:50 correctly, I don't know how you made a SAM launch a missle and make the missle go between two aircraft. The first shootdown must have taken some trying too, usually my pilot dies in DCS when I get shot down.

[@showtime112]

Spoiler alert! If you are afraid of ruining the magic of these videos, don't read this 😁 This did take quite a few tries. First thing I realized is that SA-6 will ALWAYS hit an F-16 that's not pulling 9g and chaffing like crazy. So I added a third F-16 that was following the first two on a higher altitude, set it on 'don't react to threat' and made the first two F-16s invisible. The missile that passed between them (me and the leader) actually hit the third plane but that doesn't show. Second thing I realized is that F-16 pilot always dies when his airplane is hit by a missile. Any missile. Even when it's not a direct hit. I actually placed a MiG-21 behind me and just let it hit me with an R-60 (notorious for its small warhead) so I could do the ejection scene. Tried it for 5-6 times and the pilot always died. So finally, I had one track where the SA-6 hits the F-16. In another track, I just ejected out of a perfectly good F-16 but I previously set a trigger to explode it with a small size explosion as soon as it got damaged (which it was by the ejection). You need to do tricks like that all the time if you want to get an outcome that's anywhere near the historical one. If you ever watched any of the GR 'reenactments' you must have noticed that theirs are almost always completely different. That's why 😁

[@DiaconescuAlexandru2024]

@@showtime112 Daaaamn, that's a lot of effort ! I really like "having a peek around the curtains", especially when it's in a game that I also play. You must know DCS pretty well to do all these tricks, but damn do they work ! :)

[@showtime112]

@@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 There is a lot of trial and error. Sometimes, I find a great story, do the research and then realize that I just can't get the desired result. That's when thinking outside the box helps :)

[@tomassiqueira5172]

@@showtime112 In Brazil, we would call that a gambiarra

[@showtime112]

@@tomassiqueira5172 Eu não sabia, obrigado 😉

[@MlTGLIED]

I watched both parts. Very nice done 👍🏼

[@showtime112]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!

[@KF99]

I saw the fin of this F-16 in Moscow Aviation Institute. There are also some parts of A-7 and F-111 shot down in Vietnam.

[@gunfighter90]

I have been waiting for the Scoot O Grady story. Love the reenactment

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much, I appreciate your support.

[@pablopeter3564]

Not only you give an even point of view of the aviation historical facts without any political opinion but the way you present the operations from inside and outside the cokcpit is great. By the way, I am a pilot and appreciate your great work. CONGRATULATIONS.

[@showtime112]

Sometimes, the most difficult part is to stay away from political opinions 😁 I'm glad you appreciate this video.

[@ThePizzaGoblin]

I wonder what it felt like to be the random Serbian dude who shot a NATO plane down with a shoulder fired missile. Must have been a rush. His mates probably partied with him for days.

[@showtime112]

The guy was probably a local hero.

[@nekilik1895]

Jedna zanimljivost. Miroslav Lazanski je išao na pregovore oko oslobađanja francuskih pilota. Hvala ti na objektivnosti

[@showtime112]

Hvala na dodanim detaljima. Nisam našao tu informaciju ali zapravo, same pregovore nisam jako puno analizirao.

[@boskovucinic7874]

Yeah that's truth. There is even a video where he was recording Ratko Mladic while he was speking on phone that day, and Mladic told him in camera "He is going to sell this video to Germans". But Lazanski show that video just 4 years ago on tv of Rebublica Serbska.

[@touchofevil3608]

Thanks Dude, nice shot, you rules my Friend !😎🤘

[@showtime112]

So glad you liked it!

[@touchofevil3608]

@@showtime112 Yep ! The only mistake is the squadron name: Champagne, not Champaigne.🍾😉

[@showtime112]

@@touchofevil3608 Thanks for pointing it out! Fortunately, it is only in the subtitles and can be corrected easily :)

[@touchofevil3608]

@@showtime112 Yep, very nice job, really !🤘🍾

[@fightfirewithfire5464]

Salute Serbian Brothers.

[@jussihaila]

Yess. Another Showtime112 video.

[@showtime112]

Thanks for your comment, it helps the channel a lot!

[@leonardolealdelima3760]

So grat series ! Could you make a video about the losses of B-52 in Operation Linebacker II, if it's not bothersome ??

[@showtime112]

Thank you! Your suggestion is possible to some extent. The problem is that neither B-52 nor the SAM batteries can be controlled by the player, they're AI only. That presents some challenges for making an interesting video but maybe I'll figure out how to solve them someday.

[@PappaBear_yt]

Cool series, can't wait for the follow-up! 👍🏻😎🍻

[@showtime112]

Much obliged! There will be a follow-up, maybe just not immediately after this one (if you mean the story).

[@JorgeSanchez-oh4uy]

Hey Showtime112, I believe the O'Grady shootdown was the inspiration for the movie, Behind Enemy Lines. Of course the movie took some liberties in it's rendering of the real life events but was nonethess entertaining to watch.

[@showtime112]

Yes, this movie is losely based on the O'Grady story. It's ok to watch but it shouldn't be taken as a documentary.

[@hanno-erdmanntietz8424]

Excellent video. I watched parts 1 and 2 back to back.

[@showtime112]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@nkrajisnik]

Odlicna prezentacija dogadjaja iz ne tako daleke proslosti. Primetio sam da jako malo DCS simulacija ima na internetu sa avionom Mig-23 (bez obzira na verziju). Ne znam da li postoji samo MOD ili gotov model, i pretpostavljam da ga ljudi ne vole zbog gomile razloga (slab za dogfight, lose rakete za BVR...) pa ga izbegavaju. Posto vidim da se bavis simulacijama stvarnih dogadjaja, mislim da bi rekonstrukcija borbe izmedju kubanskih Mig 23ML i juznoafrickih Mirage F1 bila dobar video (njihova borba iznad Angole iz septembra 1987-e). Pozdrav, Nemanja.

[@showtime112]

Ima dobar razlog za slabu zastupljenost MiG-a 23. U DCS-u postoji samo kao AI model, a i tu je dosta zastario (malo poligona). Dobra vijest je da ga Razbam razvija kao high fidelity modul. A španjolski Aerges razvija Mirage F1. Još se ne znaju datumi kada će ova dva modula biti dostupna ali kad budu, ova priča iz Angole je definitivno u planu. Hvala na komentaru i sugestiji!

[@PoochAndBoo]

The modeling of that SAM battery is pretty impressive.

[@showtime112]

Yes, it is one of the models that was upgraded relatively recently. There still are some models in DCS that require an update. But, they are working on that I guess.

[@SKiM1389SKiM]

Napravi video i o rušenju B2 1999. Napadi na aerodrome u Tuzli i Tirani takođe. Авиация Югославии сорвала планы США использовать в боевых действиях в Косово ударные вертолеты "Апач" "МОСКВА, 4 апреля. /Корр. ИТАР-ТАСС Анатолий Юркин/. Авиация Югославии сорвала планы США использовать в боевых действиях в Косово ударные вертолеты "Апач". Об этом сообщает очередной номер информационно-аналитического журнала министерства обороны России "Зарубежное военное обозрение". В статье "Потери НАТО в войне с Югославией" под рубрикой "Гриф снят" сообщается, что "самая большая сенсация - это число натовских потерь в живой силе. В Югославии гибли не только натовские пилоты, но и спецназовцы, участвующие в поисково-спасательных операциях по обнаружению сбитых летчиков. Югославские ПВО уничтожили не менее пяти натовских вертолетов, в которых погибло около 100 военнослужащих альянса". Еще одной сенсацией можно назвать разгадку отказа американского командования от применения боевых вертолетов "Апач". "Причина этого решения - не технические неполадки вертолетов и недостаточная подготовка летных экипажей, о чем неоднократно заявляли представители блока, а налет 26 апреля прошлого года югославских истребителей "Галеб" на аэродром Ринас под столицей Албании Тираной, где базировались "Апачи". В тот день две группы этих легких машин уничтожили и повредили свыше 10 американских вертолетов,"- отмечается в журнале. Сходную операцию провели югославские ВВС 18 апреля против аэродрома в боснийской Тузле, превращенной в военную базу НАТО. Итог этого налета - полтора десятка выведенных из строя на земле натовских машин. "Несмотря на преобладание в группировке натовской авиации американских самолетов, не только их сбивали силы югославской ПВО. Сбитыми оказались 5 немецких "Торнадо", несколько английских "Харриеров", два французских "Миража", бельгийские, голландские, канадские самолеты. ВВС США потеряли в небе Югославии 7 июня свой стратегический бомбардировщик В-52 /буква латинская/, а 20 мая был сбит В-2А "Спирит",- отмечает "Зарубежное военное обозрение". (source: ITAR-TASS, April 4, 2000)

[@Dog.soldier1950]

Propaganda

[@rikrayarcade]

I am amazed everytime by your level of research !!😃

[@showtime112]

Thanks! This has really become a necessity with the number of people watching.

[@cidpusa700]

Impressive awesome war coverage on Bosnia

[@showtime112]

Thank you for your comment!

[@zagreb123123]

Jedva cekam novi video da opet nesto naucim. Odlicno!

[@showtime112]

Možda bude pismeni ispit 😉

[@JoeCool_1962]

Thx for the french story. A/c were Mirage 2000D :)

[@milanstankovic4149]

Great video.Congrats on efford to make it. But i thing that Mirage was shoot down by Igla manpads not by Strela. Much more destructive and accurate with grater range.

[@showtime112]

Thanks! It could have been an Igla. Strela was mentioned in some sources as the weapon. I should have probably mentioned that it was a 'probable' weapon.

[@milanstankovic4149]

@@showtime112 99 procent that was Igla.Mirage is very good and rigid jet fighter.Strela can only damaged it...Also there is a video clip about frensh recon Super Etendard that was damaged with Strela manpads,but it managed to land od frensh aircraft carrier.

[@milanstankovic4149]

@@showtime112 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3mliGqfo69ofNU There is a video about Super Etendard

[@showtime112]

@@milanstankovic4149 We have a Super Etendard mod sot it's theoretically possible. if I figure out how to do it, I might someday.

[@ljubomirculibrk4097]

It was combination, first launch of Strela for making Mirage use up its flares then Igla for the kill.

[@malkuwon8691]

Sorry we did not know F117 was invisible

[@showtime112]

It's not. F-117 is not called 'invisible' at all. That is just a very imprecise translation to some languages. 'Stealth' doesn't mean invisible.

[@vojkankostic1869]

French Mirage 2000 was shot down with SA-16 Igla, not with SA-7 Strela. Missiles were smuggled via Bulgaria in 1994. Man who fired the missile was my sargent in the army, 10 years later, I know that for a fact.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the info. That makes this reenactment closer to the truth as there's no SA-7 Strela in DCS so it was represented by Igla.

[@JoeCool_1962]

Excellent vidéo Don’t sorry if the aircraft are not exactly modelled. The story is pretty acurate as possible

[@johnhill4717]

Both of these aircraft had AN/ALQ-119 jamming pods on them. O-Grady FAILED to turn his on!

[@showtime112]

DCS doesn't have them yet so they are not represented. And what you're saying is possible.

[@ediko77]

Many thanks to the author for staging an interesting film! ++++++++

[@petargluic1564]

. Molim prijevod na hrvatski

[@showtime112]

Thank you for your support, glad you liked it!

[@showtime112]

Postoji hrvatski titl. Samo YT je nedavno nešto promijenio pa ga možda treba ručno prebaciti u postavkama. Kao prvi se izbacuje engleski titl u nekim slučajevima, bez obzira što možda imaš podešen jezik na hrvatski.

[@savamomirovic4439]

Sadly there wasnt any air to air kills, great video man!

[@showtime112]

Thanks for the comment! There's more air-to-air kills left to do in some future videos.

[@AlmirTaranis]

Air to air kills with what, Savo? We both know that MiG 29 was no match or huge threat for NATO planes.

[@savamomirovic4439]

@@AlmirTaranis so? How MiG-25 shooted a F-18?

[@r.yuksel9774]

@@savamomirovic4439 That was a lucky kill in Gulf War, US AWACS thought the MiG was a friendly and didn't allow F/A-18 to shoot, otherwise the MiG would have been dead

[@stolek6908]

20:38 yea two crew mamber and bunch of French foreign legion mercineries. Im think 15-20 dead.

[@ratagris21]

Great presentation. While missile technology has evolved the older still threat. The looking for the missile is a Vietnam War era technique. I'm surprise he didn't use flares or chaff to help defeat it. If course seeing the missile helps more. ☯️♠️🎩🏁

[@showtime112]

As O'Grady describes it, everything happened very fast. Probably a lot faster than shown here. It might have something to do with the fact that this was a 'near-war' situation for the NATO pilots. Kinda like Southern and Northern Watch. They would sometimes get locked up but mostly it didn't end in a real shot. Or at least, not a guided one, Iraqis sometimes just shot missiles ballistic for effect. Still, he should have chaffed like crazy as soon as he realized he was being tracked.

[@ratagris21]

@@showtime112 exactly. The 555th is the squadron Capt now Brigadier General Stevie Ritchie was with when he became an Ace in Vietnam. They based out of Udorn, Thailand.

[@showtime112]

@@ratagris21 That's correct.

[@ricardocorbie6803]

I served during this war!! I was stationed in a camp called Dobol after hostilities, we were searching for war criminals! Beautiful country, devastated by war!!

[@showtime112]

Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@arisdelis1]

tell us more...were you searching for Llegia and Arkan? Thank you for your service..

[@nedbogdanovic3112]

And how many war criminals you managed to catch..??

[@ricardocorbie6803]

@@nedbogdanovic3112 soo are you trying to be Humorous? I didn’t catch or capture anyone, we ( US Army) were in support of the UN tribunals hunting for responsible individuals who committed war atrocities!! Have yourself a great evening!!

[@augustsenoa2762]

@@ricardocorbie6803 Could you buy me like a gift COCKPIT LEATHER JACKET.THAT,S MY DREAM.I,M 192CM.WITH THOSE AMBLEMS ON CHEST AND SLEEVS.PS.THANKS FORWARD.

[@fishkall9000]

Old SA-6 does a good job i see... SA-7 too

[@MisteriosGloriosos922]

stunning video!!

[@showtime112]

And a pretty good comment too :) Thanks.

[@yveaux500]

20:07 the guy stays pretty cool for someone who just shot down a plane...

[@showtime112]

It's a sign of a well disciplined soldier :)

[@CenturionDobrius]

Nemam dovoljno reči hvale koliko je dobro urađen video. Ovo je kao da gledaš izveštaj iz Pentagona. Bilo bi dobro da se uradi neki vezan za rat na Kosovu, ovo je odličan način da se prava istina o Srbiji proširi na mlađi svet kako bi se promenilo mišljenje o nama kao lošim momcima i krivcima za svo zlo u svetu.

[@showtime112]

Hvala na pozitivnom komentaru.Ima dosta komentara sličnih ovome sa srpske strane. Ali dosta je zanimljivo da ih ima nemali broj dijametralno suprotnih. Mnogi ovo vide kao anti-srpsku propagandu i nekakvu fašističku urotu. Ti komentari se ne vide jer koriste rječnik i ton takav da ih YT najčešće odmah automatski cenzirira. Preostale ja ručno blokiram jer nemam tolerancije za one koji nastupaju u nekom svađalačkom i uvredljivom tonu. Ovo govorim prvenstveno zato da naglastim da štogod da netko radi, ljudi će ga doživljavati na sto raznih načina. Poanta kanala zapravo i nije da se bavi temama tipa tko je loš a tko je dobar. Prvenstveno je namijenjen ljubiteljima vojne avijacije a "politika" je tu samo zato da se da nekakav kontekst. Bit će obrađivanja i rata iz 1999. u budućnosti. Bilo je tu dosta zanimljivih događanja koji zaslužuju pažnju.

[@CenturionDobrius]

@@showtime112 pazi da ti kažem nešto, ja sam rastao u SFRJ, i tvrdim ti, da nisu postojali ljudi na čelu naših država pomognuti strancima, rata ne bi ni bilo, a danas bismo bili jači od Italije. Nažalost i danas-dan mediji s vremena na vreme po zadatku, stalno potpaljuju i izmišljaju mržnju da bi nas kao kolonije zapadnih zemalja držali na uzici, i konstantno slabili - i to je poenta : da smo siromašni, u dugovima, i da nam se mladost odseljava i beži, dok za 50-tak godina i vi braća Hrvati i mi Srbi, ali i ostali prosto ne nestanemo, a ove krajeve nasele neki drugi.

[@sash91216]

@@showtime112 da li planiras ubaciti i neka obaranja koja nisu potvrdjena i ostala su na nivou prica ili ces samo obraditi obaranja f-117 i f-16?

[@showtime112]

@@sash91216 Fokusirat ću se na potvrđena.

[@ilmawarin5520]

@@showtime112 Sam video jest neutralan, ali poprično je očito da u publici dominira jedna strana. Da se primjetit da i ti osobno si biased. Vidi se u pojedinim komentarima, a čini se i kod cenzuriranja komentara s obzirom da su 99% pro-srpski. Just saying.

[@mountainman42]

I like it. Waiting for more.

[@radmiloristanovic5688]

Svaka cast braco...

[@showtime112]

Hvala na komentaru!

[@jawarakf]

To be exact, US aircraft waypoint plotters are bunch of lazies that they don't change new waypoint route for aircraft on patrol. Serbs identified and marked US standard fixed waypoints placing spotters, radars, SAM/AAA along the route waiting for opportunity to down US aircraft. Russian & Chinese analyst and experts were there too conducting avionics research on US aircraft especially stealth plane. That's how US lost F-16 & F-117

[@showtime112]

Yeah, it might be a challenge of those near-war situation. You can easily get lulled into a false sense of comfort. But there's even worse. I recently listened to a very interesting episode of a podcast called 10 Percent True, don't know if you are familiar with it. A guest was an F-111 pilot who participated in operation Eldorado Canyon. They were ordered to attack the target one by one from exactly the same direction. That's why one F-111 was shot down and the crew died.

[@jawarakf]

@@showtime112 thanks for the info. Flying from same direction again & again allowed enemy GCI & anti-air emplacement to get the practice they need to shoot the F-111 down. Also, thanks to US waypoint plotters, the salvaged F-117 along with multiple detection avionics conducted on F-117 & B-2 flying over Serbia gave Russia & China the opportunity to learn, obtain & reverse engineer US stealth technology few years later. On the inside, Russia & China probably do thank US for that.

[@kaynebartholomew2994]

I like these. Maybe a Green Leader video of the Rhodesian Air Force raid on Chimoio or their ops supporting Ops Eland and Dingo.

[@showtime112]

Thanks for the comment! I need to do some research about the topic you mention.

[@kaynebartholomew2994]

@@showtime112 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqOvfKOraL6rr5o There are 3 parts total but this is an interview with one of the pilots on that raid. This part has pretty much all of the radio transmissions.

[@veritasardens6547]

0:38, is this not the same story on which the movie "Behind enemy lines" was based?

[@showtime112]

Yes, the movie was roughly based on the story of Scott O'Grady.

[@jerrymail]

I remember the destruction of the Mirage 2000. Unfortunately, this war was so poorly explained in the French media that I never understood anything. I very quickly stopped being interested in it.

[@showtime112]

It's actually quite simple

[@jerrymail]

@@showtime112 Certainly, but the French TV broadcasts were confusing and unclear. And at this time, I was 20... I spent more time with my friends than watching Bosnia war on TV 😁

[@showtime112]

@@jerrymail That's very unusual for a 20 year old 😁

[@goranjovanovic2830]

Dobar snimak.

[@showtime112]

Hvala na komentaru.

[@sohrabroozbahani4700]

So this was where the behind enemy lines story came from...

[@showtime112]

Yes, that is the story. I didn't focus too much on O'Grady's survival on the ground though. It's not what DCS is good for :)

[@whiskeysixindigo7371]

I remember hearing about this on the news back then

[@showtime112]

Thanks for commenting!

[@izvidjac9275]

Great video. I’m really happy to see them go down

[@barriewright2857]

Brilliant.

[@showtime112]

Thanks a lot!

[@sellamibenamorkhaled1315]

لماذا اف 16 من افضل ماهو موجود على الساحة الدولية للدفاع . عاش جيشنا الوطني العظيم حصنا منيعا الوطن

[@ugarit5]

Capt. O Grady was a chad

[@junak8823]

Nice video. What about doing Serbian losses, would be interesting. And also maybe losses in Iraq.

[@showtime112]

Thanks! Serbs lost those four attack aircraft in 1994. This will probably be reenacted someday. Plus in 1999. there were several MiG-29s shot down. One of those shootdowns was covered on the channel. I'll do some more too. As for Iraq, you mean the Coalition losses?

[@junak8823]

@@showtime112 Yes, coalition losses

[@showtime112]

@@junak8823 Perhaps, someday.

[@gentmeshi5664]

I like to see those videos in balkan. Respect for all 🇦🇱🇽🇰

[@showtime112]

Thanks for commenting!

[@kirksdva8310]

F16 Old tehnologie even cub from Fifties is being treated for him

[@azxtra8381]

Most of these videos (Vietname era to present) demonstrate many losses were due to pilots making bad defensive decisions. I can't believe he did not use chaff. Overconfidence and stupidity. Like the Harriers that made some bombing runs but never ejected flares after releasing their bombs after already having had shoulder-fired missiles fired at them once already. It blows the mind.

[@showtime112]

Yes, sometimes the pilot under attack didn't necessarily do everything perfectly. Scott O'Grady did practically nothing. But there are so many factors such as being in a semi-war situation or having very little flares in your dispenser.

[@rpmusic6402]

What more if they face Russian S-400/500?

[@showtime112]

It is a matter of awareness and readiness. Here, they were not ready but predictable.

[@jdsaldivar2109]

82ND AIRBORNE Outstanding...

[@showtime112]

Thanks for the comment, glad you liked it!

[@sabozlaja]

Igla...ne strela

[@showtime112]

To je moguće.

[@stuartbega7097]

Baked out !!!👽

[@nemanjadespotovic771]

My friend was there,he was in search for f16 enemy pilot, he has also one small part (bearing)of crashed f16 plane

[@milans.637]

Uradi sledeci video kad je srusen B2 Spirit of Missoury .

[@pbm767]

The one which Indian Airforce shot down over Pakistan occupied Kashmir was less dramatic than this but more daring

[@Lucas-nu4du]

I thought the most famous shotdown was the F-117

[@showtime112]

Not over Bosnia.

[@dimitrijestevanovic4851]

Mirage 2000 was actually struck by Igla and not Strela

[@showtime112]

Possible, sources are not very detailed.

[@domovinivjerni]

Mislim da sam opet pogodio sa thumbnailom...

[@stolek6908]

Kad dođu rafali dođi opet pa spamuj kao indijci BEST CROATIA AVIONITICS BALBALBLA

[@showtime112]

Izgleda da jesi. Odsad ti ih svaki put šaljem na provjeru 😁

[@domovinivjerni]

@@stolek6908 nisam pitao i nauči engleski

[@stolek6908]

Uči svapski treba za timarenja

[@Dog.soldier1950]

The entire operation was tainted by politics which put NATO forces at a disadvantage.

[@showtime112]

Well, you could say that some of that was half-hearted.

[@chieftain8638]

Pozzz ovaj teren gdje je je li ovo stvarno balkan ili samo mapa

[@showtime112]

Nije. To je mapa Kavkaza, konkretno Gruzija. Osim prve scene koja je snimljena na mapi Sirije.

[@vanjaprascevic6595]

You do now that Sa-7 (Strela-2) can attack jet s from the rear hemisphere ?

[@showtime112]

Strela is not available in DCS. This is actually Igla. Both the missile and the Mirage are AI controlled here and emulating a rear aspect shot is very hard to do.

[@No-timeforimbeciles]

Well done to Serbians

[@brankonisevic1991]

There Is a book about kub ITS called kub sky shield From ground

[@ilvaporizzatore]

Don't you miss the F117 downing? EDIT: It was in Kosovo.

[@showtime112]

That's Allied Force from 1999. This video (and the previous one) focuses on the Bosnian conflict which ended three years before.

[@Hangman84848]

Nope, it was downed little bit farther to the north, some 500km to be precise in the village Budjanovci.

[@killingfields1424]

And one Night Hawk, all by SAMs

[@showtime112]

Not over Bosnia. The F-117 and one F-16 were downed in 1999 over what was then called Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

[@simulationsrealconflicts1586]

What about the F-117 shot down by the Serbs?

[@showtime112]

Different conflict. A topic for some other video.

[@petar6295]

2:34 Croatia also haved fighter aircraft

[@showtime112]

That refers to the three sides in Bosnia.

[@zeljkojovic3590]

I was a member of 155 brigade

[@abdulhaseeb993]

What about night hawk down?

[@showtime112]

That didn't happen over Bosnia.

[@simulationsrealconflicts1586]

And part 3?

[@showtime112]

Only other NATO aircraft lost in the period and in that particular conflict were lost to technical failures. There was also a drone shot down I think. That wouldn't make much of a video.

[@pontiacGXPfan]

Post the Banja Luka incident

[@showtime112]

It is on a to do list, thanks for suggesting.

[@gibanica87]

Jel moze neko ko se razume da potvrdi da se pilot stvarno katapultirao na 35.000ft a padobran otvorio na 20.000