Surfskates vs Cruisers (Explained)

[@0W3NC]

Hell yeah, youre the only one who reviews cruisers, and who doesn't love cruising - the joy in experimenting with flow for getting from A to B, or just joy riding around a mellow neighbourhood

[@concrete-waves]

Ayyy exactly! I love finding new ways to flow 😎

[@AlbertoTorreses]

Cruiser is life, haha i use it everyday in the City, it feels really free

[@ianmacdonald487]

I love the idea of a PDF for different set-ups. That is brilliant. You misspoke about turning radius, though. A surfskate, turning more sharply, decreases the turning radius, not increases. Great advice, as always!

[@concrete-waves]

Thanks, I'm still adding to it so if you have feedback, would love to hear. Also, ahhh great catch 🙏

[@bastoneCL]

4:01 That was smooth 🏄

[@concrete-waves]

Haha appreciate that 🙏

[@ItsSharkzInit]

Ikr was way to clean (I'd break my ankle if I ever tried that)

[@concrete-waves]

@@ItsSharkzInit haha i practiced that one for a long time

[@nateross14]

Good stuff! Nice to have concise vids like this to help people have confidence and direction to get an ideal setup for their purposes and get people riding. An important thing to be aware of for those just starting out, is to realize that anything new will most likely not feel natural at first. The human body is amazing at adapting, and you WILL get used to whatever you ride. ANY setup can and will eventually feel natural after you acclimate. Choosing the right setup intially just makes it easier , more efficient, and safer. To a newbie a Surfskate will most likely feel like a wobbly deathtrap. But after some time, your legs will acclimate and build the muscles used to stabilize your balance. Spend enough time on it, and it will feel super stable. Whatever you choose to ride, just be aware that your intial impressions of riding will probably change and develop over time. Be patient, and ride, ride,ride. Theres no substitute for time on a board. You'll soon be rolling around like a natural!

[@concrete-waves]

Great points nate! Thanks for taking the time to share this. Practice makes perfect 😎

[@myszkowski79]

I was waiting the whole video for you to say something about the Carver CX (yes, I know, you were talking about the C5;) For me it's the perfect combination of surfskate and cruiser. A loosened screw on the kingpin allows for tight turns, and a tightened screw works great for long trips with pumping. Additionally, it is a good option for heavy riders. Have a nice day! :)

[@concrete-waves]

Ya the CX is another great truck from Carver (my favorite one actually). But I was trying to pick one to keep the video more concise. Have you experimented with aftermarket Riptide bushings on your CX?

[@myszkowski79]

@@concrete-waves I run standard Carver bushings (I think 89A) and they work very well. Softer ones would probably not be good for me because I weigh 100 kg. I always take a skate tool with me for rides and I adjust the bushing pressure depending on what I want to do on the skateboard. So far it works for me. But in the future I'm thinking of trying bushings from other manufacturers out of curiosity. I also love CX trucks ;) Have a nice day!

[@skate-horizons]

Nice one as always, never had a look a the legasee trucks. I always learn something new from your Videos. Also love the PDF. It's probably the best beginner guide that exists!

[@concrete-waves]

thank michael 🙂 There's quite a bit I still would like to add to it but I'm glad to hear that! Mean a lot

[@skate-horizons]

@@concrete-waves It is pretty great already! I think what would be helpful is to explain Drops, Microdorft Drop-Through and Double drop, also Bushing seat ;) But I think it is pretty information dense as it is :D

[@concrete-waves]

@@skate-horizons Great ideas - I will add those :) I guess the challenge is adding enough info without overwhelming haha

[@eBoard3R]

*Another banger edit and topic!* 🤟🏽🤙🏽🤟🏽🤙🏽🤟🏽🤙🏽 I love bein really low to the ground so anythin more than a half inch riser/extra height is offputtin for me personally, not an issue for all in general, more personal preference. Love surfy/carvy rides though. The C5 would be 🔥 I love a kicktail just for the leverage to dig into carves alone, it feels really fun for me. Kick-turnin is just a bonus 😂 75mm 77a Otang In Heats would be the perfect Surfskate wheel for me, I usually prefer 85mm Blue Cags for commutin/cruisin.

[@concrete-waves]

Appreciate it man! Ya I can totally understand the height thing being offputtin. C5 would definitely be 🔥but I'm not sure what the height would be with 75mm. Could prob figure something out. I love the 85 cags btw - such a solid wheel!

[@tonyn5055]

All skateboards are surf skates to me. I have tried every truck configuration and I still think regular Indy trucks, set up right, can't be beat. I have a pair of modified Carver C5/C4 trucks. They have been been shortened to fit 7.75-8.0 width boards. Like small seventies style Alva boards. They shred over the big clunky one's. It gives me enough side to side to sharply carve anything, kinda like a high performance short board. I take it to the Skatepark just to demonstrate it, along side my Powell Andy Anderson. You don't need a big clunky adapter to mimic surfing on a skateboard. That would be Carver C7's which are way too heavy, but are still fun to ride. Carver also has CX's which are most like regular trucks. All three are considered surf skate truck's though. The wood on top is about preference. Cruisers are just any boards with soft wheels. My personal trick is just to use smaller trucks(Indy 139) with soft to medium bushings. The smaller trucks create a tighter turning radius or any turn I want. I also make sure my trucks aren't too loose. I loosen them to where they don't wobble when I collect speed, but no tighter. This is me teaching my GF at 44 about 12 years ago on Indy 139's at the Dogtown Skate Plaza(Venice Skate Park). kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJbMlHiraquUodksi=uS2RfQMGlzZtt3sr. I should make some updated vids. Especially now that there's interest. I'm 57 now and still rolling.

[@crackin2000]

Dog your still around. Right on I'm dusting off my boards.

[@concrete-waves]

Hahaha get out there dude!

[@lowtechleon9874]

Great video. I love the c5 trucks, because they are so low. I use them on a every day carry commuter. It is rediculously versatile. ❤️

[@concrete-waves]

Ya the C5 is soo solid. I'm in the process of building a new setup with them 🙌

[@lowtechleon9874]

I took a 8.5 popsicle and redrilled the front bolt holes, so the c5 Axle sits where a normal tkp Axle would sit. I love it. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWKQqIuoYtBjbtE

[@KingCheetah173]

You should do a review on the landyachtz shape 9 it is a very interesting deck and design, would be a cool video (I just got the REEF one)

[@concrete-waves]

Whoa didn't even know that shape existed. Looks awesome! That reef graphic is sick too 🔥

[@czesc_tu_asia]

dude . awesome video, thansk a lot!

[@concrete-waves]

I'm glad it helped, no prob 🙏

[@hugoingelhammar6163]

One thing Ive noticed when it comes to riding for longer distances surfskates actually have an advatage. Even though they are higher off the ground so you need to bend your knee more while pushing, you can pump very easily to maintain the speed you gained. This creates another way of generating speed. For me its a much more fun way of riding, as it gives you variation and is not as monotonous. Also if your riding in crowded places its very easy to control your speed in the slower ranges and navigating through people and obstacles without having to change your stance to push all the time

[@TheSurfskateboarder]

Great video. Are the trucks on your hybrid 140mm Kodiak trucks? This is something I’m eager to try. Great content. Thanks for doing what you do.

[@concrete-waves]

They're the Landyachtz Gen 6 130mm 50 Degree. I got them on my Tugboat Ultra Carve. For some reason it doesn't look like they're selling them separately but I bet they'll stock them soon

[@tombillard5264]

had this vid pop up in my feed , makes me want to get back on my 1979 Dennis Martinez flying aces all original except bushings, soon as I get off pain meds baby aint ridden it since 2011 and that sucks

[@sweetlikechocothai]

I use my cruiser the most. But my Surfskate is more fun. I rarely use my longboard. Also Surfskate’s don’t need cut outs above the wheels because there is no chance of wheel bite.

[@concrete-waves]

Nice 👍 And I've actually gotten wheelbite on my surfskates if I go above 70mm. What surfskate / wheels do you have?

[@sweetlikechocothai]

@@concrete-waves Carver deck , 69mm Roundhouse wheels, Waterborne Surfskate adapter, Thunder Trucks. There is 3 larger riser pads and one regular under the back wheels.

[@MichaelB-gi4lt]

Great work!

[@concrete-waves]

appreciate that mike!

[@Long_Skates]

Good video! There are always really nice to watch :)) How do you like the Zenit 76? I am also thinking of buying them and put some grasp trucks on. Or the Rocket Surf Scout XL … but it’s double the price. :/

[@concrete-waves]

Thanks manuel 😎 I really like the 76 shape. Pretty flat and wide, plus the 2 ply fiberglass / 4 ply maple is noticeably thinner than average 7-ply deck. I've never tried the Rocket surf scout but wow it looks incredible

[@onedead7607]

Quality content

[@concrete-waves]

appreciate that thanks 🙏

[@Salvatore-ih2mh]

I tried putting cx trucks un my dinghy, wich is my only board, even if the weelbase is short it pumps pretty good

[@AlbertoTorreses]

A friendo of mine told me to buy a surfskate but i'm happy with the cruiser, i should try surfskate in some moment but to go to far places... by the way, cool video, blessings

[@arigosunim]

Please review Powell Peralta Sidewalk Surfer 8.37in. It looks like a reliable quality at a decent price.

[@concrete-waves]

Interesting, i've never heard of it until now. Just looked on their website and ya it looks decent for the price. Andy Anderson shredded that thing 🔥

[@mikewhiskey]

Narrow RKPs on an 18 inch wheelbase: is there anything set up like this already on the market or should I check out a skateshop an ask for help crafting that kind of hybrid?

[@icantsee0]

Where'd you get that little metal surfer behind you ?

[@concrete-waves]

Honestly, I have no clue haha. I wanna say a local surf shop when i was younger but i forget

[@icantsee0]

@@concrete-waves new merch idea 👀👀 (if you can somehow not infringe on copyright ofc 😅)

[@concrete-waves]

@@icantsee0 ooo not a bad idea! Lots of merch ideas being developed this year. Can't wait to release them 😎

[@michaelwagner6410]

Why don't they just use double king pin trucks like on the electric skateboards(surf style) such as the Tynee Stinger or evolve stoke

[@ImThatGuyGoddi]

If i put longboard wheels on my popsicle board, would it feel the same as a cruiser board? I dont like the shapes of other skateboards, i love the popsycle style. So if i put size 75mm wheels on my popsicle, would it ride the same as a cruiser?

[@hddnhrst]

Which board is shown at 1:03 and which at 4:30?

[@concrete-waves]

That's the Landyachtz Tugboat at 1:03 and the 4:30 is a custom. Flush collection deck - L:32” W:9” WB:16,17,18” Bear 130mm RKPs, & Orangatang 65mm 80a Loves Handles

[@hddnhrst]

awesome thanks​@@concrete-waves

[@concrete-waves]

@@hddnhrst ya no prob!

[@carlm5413]

Shout out from shhh! Shrathmere

[@carlm5413]

Strathmere

[@carbonoxx]

this is like a drift car vs touring car lol look the same same to me

[@concrete-waves]

Definitely a lot of similarities. Speed on surfskates gets sketchy real quick but they're highly maneuverable in smaller spaces

[@slashtrio]

Hi there, cool video. Could you recommend some wheels? I am an aging man (late 40s) and began skating in the mid 80s (Bones Brigade era). I have had a Lance Mountain reissue (80s cruiser style) for about a decade. It has rat bones wheels I think which are pretty good on many surfaces. However I want to cruise around with my kids while they are riding bikes and scooters, but are cul de sac we live in has horribly rough and bumpy pavement. I was considering getting some little retro board with those huge soft wheels, but it would also be cool to just get some big softies and put them on my old Lance Mountain. Not looking to do tricks, just want to cruise around and not vibrate to death. Any tips would be appreciated.

[@Iputitallonmyplate]

I have a Powell peralta re-issue coffin deck and I put penny wheels on it to cruise with and it rides really nice on all the shitty roads around me. I don’t think I had to use risers either. I know a lot of people will use OJ wheels, so those are also worth checking out.

[@MUFFAFUZZA]

Always on the cruiser! Haven’t tried “Surf Skate.” Santa Cruz Land Sharks can pull some really sharp turns for carving also. #muffafuzza

[@concrete-waves]

sickkk! Ya cruisers are fun 🔥

[@LaggerSVK]

its completely different thing. Riding skateparks (especially bowls) on surfskate with the surf moves is something completely different from street skating, cruising. I personally like the fact that on surfskate your feet are mostly locked there but you use all your body muscles / motions. It has nice flow to it. This is something that I couldnt find anywhere else and now I am in love with that.

[@dimaniho572]

Hello, sorry for stupid question, but I’m really new to boarding, but I look it for alternative against bike (I move to different countrie where you can’t take bike in train) so I looking for stuff what I can hang on my backpack, I like cruiser 30 inch. Style but then I go to shop, I get confused about long to surf board, what I should get to start riding, what firm I should look to buy (looking for like middle firm not to good but not to bad), and there I now live some times here is a lot of people on streets so, it’s better get surf, but it begging it’s good? So if you can call brand name, type what I should take (cruise or surf) it’s little help to decide, thanks!

[@DerClaudius]

1:13 decreases!