Shroud CAN’T Handle Bebop Anymore! - Daily Deadlock Moments Ep. 12

[@nerucheung]

Bebop feels like OW1 Roadhog on steroids

[@kenpachi2624]

Hog 1.0

[@mum-your]

that was when OW was fun, now everything is nerfed and nothing is fun in that game

[@RadarFinsR]

Actually most heroes are insanely buffed compared to OW1 the real problem is dev team can't balance anything so it's the same every few patches now "if you don't play dva you're a stupid piece of shit stop playing tank" oh new patch "now play mauga only' followed by "why doesn't anybody play tank"

[@thebearded4427]

@@kenpachi2624 Ooooh yea. Back when a wall was merely a suggestion

[@TheMagicCake]

Mr. Frog is the master at fine balancing of a game, if every hero is broken no heroes are broken.

[@pate7179]

Those dynamo plays were hot hot hot

[@thetuerk]

I was just gonna say that too, like that second clip was IMMACULATE

[@supawithdacream5626]

@@thetuerk thats what we do to abrams in our dreams lmao

[@LostFelix]

that fucking bebop macro

[@Kyzuuh]

9:19 the parry from pocket mid jump oml

[@JKC4o9]

Yeah that was gross

[@supawithdacream5626]

pocket was 1 tho if you didnt knw xD

[@RB_003]

Coming from overwatch, Beebop is as fun to play against as early days roadhog

[@Emma124a]

Nice video 🤛

[@DailyDeadlockRecap]

Thank you!

[@Kewledgykid]

lil yizzy from budok stream? Pog

[@RadarFinsR]

dumbest thing about bebop is half the time bebop players yelling "I got someone" They have literally no idea who because the hook doesn't need to be thrown with any intention you just throw it behind corner and pray to get bullshit.

[@DailyDeadlockRecap]

I think Bebop need more nerfs...

[@ufuk5872]

I think the aoe is unescessary, i having have problem killing people with ult before, now its even easier.

[@Birrin]

I agree

[@ErickJiuJitsu]

lol im always dying to tick damage. ill get a kill and then once im getting away to recompose myself i die to tick damage 😅

[@luciagb6000]

damn i really want to play this game already T.T

[@aprofessionalateverything7585]

find a friend to invite you

[@luciagb6000]

@@aprofessionalateverything7585 dont have any, but someone on the subreddit is giving away invites so im in :)

[@kieranbradford3020]

whats your steam ill add you

[@phanthanhlam6612]

i still don't understand why paradox version is very slow, you have to set up with 3, it have a trade off and it a fuckig ultimate while bebop hook is literally better version of her ult with no trade off what so ever on a fuckig normal ability, i don't say he's is op, i'm just saying that ability took no skill. I miss my 3 ? guess i'll wait a few sec then

[@supawithdacream5626]

not surprised aceu is busted at the game lool

[@4twenny]

Bebop hook should be his ultimate, NOT his first skill with a cooldown of 8 seconds

[@LynnAMV]

his ult is more busted. that shit can do a squad wipe if used correctly

[@ulfenburg7539]

Absolutely not. His hook should stay his hook. You can move more then you can in dota 2 or league and in those games they can hook more often then in deadlock. His hook is only a skill issue.

[@NoHoEric]

@@ulfenburg7539 Hit boxes are bad and range is too much. Bebop is a crutch character.

[@ulfenburg7539]

@@NoHoEric hit boxes are bad but the range isnt too much. I will never agree that his hook is the problem when all othwer mobas have much stronger hooks (faster, longer range, shorter cooldown) and in those mobas you cant move up and down. Being hooked is nothing but a skill issue and just being a good player on bebop.

[@Paladjin]

Bebop grab range, wild. Bebop bomb disarming the player, wild Bebop bomb range (size explosion), wild Bebop cooldown on grab, wild. Bebop Ult with Splash, why did they do this (wild) Bebop bomb scales in damage upon hit, wild. Bebop uppercutting sideways or backwards creating more distance after grab, wild. Bebop float ability when ulting, wild Bebop having considerably one of the best auto attacks in the game for CS, wild. With wild I mean, nerf this char into the ground thanks.

[@Skagwatcher]

People complaining about hooks in a moba; news at 11.

[@Birrin]

Nerf bebop

[@iampower5547]

Buff bepop 😜

[@dominicijavier1575]

bebop's pull is too far

[@zeroartisan]

don't do this

[@masonfoster7954]

bro we gotta change that hook range. at a certain point it’s like how much skill vs luck is it just shooting it down a lane and grabbing someone from like 50+ meters

[@thebearded4427]

Seeing these beebop grabs gives me OG Roadhog flashbacks. For anyone who didn't play OW: That is NOT a good thing

[@Panduck4]

Tbh i dont think bebop is a big issue and i think there are worse characters while fed

[@masonfoster7954]

fed or not. throwing a hook down a lane for a free kill seems low skill and downright frustrating. when you turn a corner and are pulled into 5 people i’ve never said to myself wow what a good play i bet he timed that just right using his gamesense and info on my location. in reality it’s more like “i threw the hook because it only has a 9 second cooldown and it happened to hit their hypercarry and now we won the game”.

[@galvanize790]

@@masonfoster7954 im ok with the range. not ok with the cd, also echo shard being that low of a cooldown is nuts too

[@supawithdacream5626]

@@masonfoster7954 thats why i love pocket he is the ultimate bebop counter when he grabs me especially when im beefd up he dies lmao

[@jupiteru]

Nice macros

[@53thephenix]

Bebop is such a bullshit character it's crazy. Every time I see a "bepop play" I just skip it. You're not good, your pick is just disgustingly broken and the only way people can counter play you is to buy like 3 different items just for him ("reactive barrier shut him down" reactive barrier only work when cc so if he just harass with bomb and use ult it's does nothing, "debuff remover and bebop is not a problem anymore" yhea gotta love spending 4250 souls to get the ability of getting rid of a fcking less than 10 seconds cooldown abilities every fcking 45 sec also doesn't work agasint ult, "use knocdown" yhea okay I cancel his ult but since he use majestic leap he just ult from very and it's not like I can kill him after because even if I somehow get close enough he can just uppercut and disarm me with bomb) that means to have any chance at moderatly being a threat for bepop I need 9000 souls or I can't actually beat him.

[@garrettf2960]

Or you could, and stay with me here, git gud

[@YuvrajSingh-fp7tc]

you should use sinatraa's shiv clips hes cracked

[@towermice]

Fun game, too bad the prosweats will slowly ruin it over time

[@StarSpliter]

I feel like I should join because of this. I need that OW1 season 1-2 nostalgia kick

[@im50yearsold]

maybe shroud should turn on his aimbot and walls

[@sogeking3532]

weak

[@prithvirajk2013]

Beebop and haze need hard nerfs

[@DailyDeadlockRecap]

100% agreed

[@hyze2d]

weird to complain about bebop when he’s fully countered by 2 items you can get on anyone

[@alegend4evr]

Which he can counter by buying curse, or even just putting bomb on himself to counter Debuff Remover...

[@brydro1505]

>complains about bebops ult >never buys knockdown standard gamers

[@RadarFinsR]

It's a good thing bebop ulti isn't significantly longer than the cast range of knock down. Don't worry I'm sure you can just rush him with the knockdown and tank the 300 dps 70 meter beeam that splashes around LOS and slows you you're right not overtuned at all. also that's some nice clown makeup, also the only clips of people complaining about bebop in this is shroud when at 7 minutes a bebop ganks his lane and sky beams him which is like the least skill denies a whole lane by pressing q moment of this game.

[@brydro1505]

@@RadarFinsR why are you running in a straight line at bebop instead of using all the verticality and alleys?

[@brydro1505]

@@RadarFinsR "my only way to get to bebop when he leaps and ults is to run at him in a straight line out in the open"

[@GrubbyWubby]

@@RadarFinsR explain why bebop is op but vindicta having a corss-map execute is perfectly balanced

[@Hoenhime344]

Just get debuff remover and bebop isn't a problem.

[@valkiii00]

nope ult changes make it so you can fly up and have spirit lifesteal and prettymuch survive most fights his sticky bomb isnt even the issue he is just too fluid for the amount of damage he does and the aoe on his ult is too much plus really forgiving most of the time it kills you when it shouldnt. Debuff is good for sticky/double sticky builds but ult focused builds are soo annoying he forsure needs a damage nerf imo

[@liammilne2242]

@@valkiii00You mean the ult that is also countered by a single item like knockdown? If it isn’t already a built in part of your kit (cc). Does it deal a lot of dmg? Yes, should it? Yes. Any character that gets ahead should deal a lot of dmg, the bombs are hard countered by numerous other character kits, some that can accommodate for multiple players too. His ult is rather easily cancelled and the lifesteal which is strong 100%! Is countered by any healing debuff which is 100% necessary in games already since lifesteal full stop is a huge issue.

[@TheVenhammer]

@@liammilne2242unstoppable is also an item the bebop can buy so you can’t get him out of his ult. He can get it early too since his ult does enough damage without item investment.

[@justindishaw3219]

​@liammilne2242 yea his ult should do a lot of damage, but it shouldn't have 300 base dps with a 3x spirit multiplier, he can easily reach 1k dps with his ult. Not 1k damage total, dps ao he can do 20k theroreticly with his ult that also slows you. Good luck getting close enough to use knockdown!

[@TheVenhammer]

@@justindishaw3219 not only that but the bebop can just buy unstoppable to counter any and all cc, it’s not like he needs to build damage for the ult anyway, especially early.

[@Vexalon-q3v]

just play haze and press 4 you win 1v6 tf are ppl complaining bebop miss 1 hook then gotta wait like 20 seconds for 1 person i mean when uppercut is lv 5 then yeah it resets but that is a melee. haze just go invis jump in press 4 and if gets stun buy that 1 item and just reset all cooldowns and do it again. or you culd just hold m1 and melt faster than the bombs detonate. no just beacouse metal skin exist does not make this invalid. btw haze can move way faster than bebop during ult its a laser just get behind a fucking wall lmao

[@invyr]

if this works as simple for you then you're definitely in low mmr lobbies lol

[@incidentlyaniguana2193]

This aint it chief. Bebops not broken tho.

[@liammilne2242]

@@invyrI mean, aren’t you in low MMR if you think double bomb bebop is super OP too? For one, debuff remover can remove the bombs. 2, multiple characters hard counter his bombs I.E, pocket, viscous, dynamo and ivy, 2 of which can protect allies from them. If you don’t wanna use debuff remover, get ethereal shift, which btw, these items are good vs other heroes also… Bebop ain’t OP when there are this many hard counters to his bombs, his ult is situationally strong but also weak if misused, just like seven ult… Cancelled by stuns like infernus ult, ivy, dynamo just to name a handful. Knockdown would work too. Haze works best in low elo agreed! But so does Bebop? Hardly OP.

[@iampower5547]

Haze and Seven is noob killer. For bepop its insta kill if u get hook combo

[@liammilne2242]

@@iampower5547 Dude how? 😂 if you het hooked as vindicta, grey talon or haze? Sure I agree, you’re very likely dead. If you get hooked as most other characters you’ll likely live if you have only 1-2 items equipping you to deal with bebop. If it’s the scenario of getting hooked into a full team of 5-6 people? Sure then the pool of who lives shrinks more, but sometimes hooking in can be bad depending who it is? Bebop hook is also relatively easy to dodge if you’re aware and positioned for it which you should be if you’re facing a bebop.

[@yunsha9986]

1:50 Silent aim

[@c1ty]

r u slow?

[@AkibaRyoto]

its aceu, he is literally aim machine himself

[@kray7920]

Did you make this comment thinking people wouldn't think your slow?