Shroud's Opinion On The New COUNTER STRIKE 2

Shroud watches the Counter Strike 2 announcement videos! He then reviews and gives his opinion on CS2's new features and gameplay!
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[@MisterPulley]

Because the smoke is volumetric, shooting through the middle won't effect the smoke much. its the thinner edges that get affected more

[@nathanyt]

Science is fun.

[@powerfulclips7657]

This

[@F6sy]

@@nathanyt yes, the science of cs XD

[@maimunkatabg]

Nkt true. Btw..

[@tehjamerz]

​@Nathan get your booster

[@koquarian]

I feel like it needs to be said that shooting through the smoke is only giving you a pinhole to see through for a millisecond and then it instantly fills in. Love it. Love the new smokes. What I want to see though, is how the rumpy-pumpy effects it!

[@Sok12111]

and mostly around the edges where the smoke is thinner, wa tching some cs2 play on twitch today if u shoot through middle of smoke it doesn't make a hole

[@joern122]

unloading a full Negev Ammobelt trough a smoke probably does create more then a pinnhole 🙂

[@koquarian]

@@joern122 If you never touch the edges of the cloud, I don't see why it would be any different. FPS probably drops to slideshow setting if you did. Lmao

[@Hondaddy]

That's not what it just showed LMAO

[@michaellong2439]

people are also missing the fact that, because its volumetric, the hole that goes through the smoke is very long and if you aren't basically being hit by someone shooting through it you wont be able to see the other person. you might see the smoke move if the bullet is to your right but you wont be able to see all the way though the smoke to see the person shooting

[@BKHD605]

One of the biggest changes not yet under the spotlight is proper multithreading support. Finally CSGO will use more than 2 cores.

[@deep_z]

Source? I dont think theres any improvement in this

[@blipsauce1143]

@@deep_z yea I think it’s source engine

[@jeevat8164]

@@blipsauce1143 actually source 2

[@SpivvyGame]

@@gn2727 there’s more changes than that, negative Nancy

[@calebpipet]

Imagine thinking this is a massive change point for a game as optimized as cs:go. If you're getting a shit framerate in cs:go, you have a shit computer and it's your fault, not cs:go's

[@LiveWatched]

Shrouds opinion In a nut shell, " it could be good or it could be bad" 😮

[@Itsgyro]

You can’t get too hyped nowadays lol. The game will probably be buggy af in the beginning too.

[@TheApexArthur]

@@Itsgyro yeah but think it’s valve, they’re gonna do right by the community. Never have I ever been disappointed in a valve product

[@TheDude044]

Flips his opinion like crazy. He’s been talking shit on CS for years and now he’s interested again? Lmao

[@Itsgyro]

@@TheApexArthur that too I agree upon. They rarely disappoint!

[@QGfk1]

​@@TheDude044 wow, he got fed up with a game that had some fundamental issues that were never addressed, and now that there's a new version that may address those issues he's optimistic. what a turncoat

[@Adurite]

one of my favorite things about csgo 2 is the fact that you're able to morph smoke grenades with bullets/grenades

[@vanity.exe69]

i like the nades but the smoke spam with guns is gonna be aids

[@psych0CS2]

​@@vanity.exe69 not really. Smoke spam will be much more risky now as you will be able to see them shoot through the smoke. This also indirectly nerfs the a1s because its makn advantage is smoke spam without tracers

[@Elementally]

aint no way adurite is verified

[@terrFW]

@@vanity.exe69 the smoke doesnt move from bullets as much as you think. it moves a lot from grenades but utility interacting with/countering other utility is a good thing.

[@FlamaSeb]

@@vanity.exe69 bro fr tho who over 13 still says aids ?

[@sniclops15]

I'm a huge fan of smoke changes. The bullets will mainly affect the edges, as shooting straight down the middle will only give you a pinpoint to look through if you were concerned at all. The fact that you can disperse it with a well-placed frag is amazing though, I'm gonna have fun with that.

[@jasminwu6360]

You gonna have fun with just smoke changes? 😂😂 They shouldn't say it cs2. It should be the same csgo just updates 😂😂

[@sniclops15]

@@jasminwu6360 There's obviously gonna be more than that. That's just one of the main features they've announced

[@DaRealSabiich]

@@jasminwu6360 What are you talking about ? It looks much better overall and more fun

[@liquidmagma0]

@@jasminwu6360 it's csgo 2 cause of the new source 2 engine. a new engine isn't just "some updates", it has many more features and possibilities, and you can see these implemented in the trailers.

[@theburgundynetwork3432]

@@jasminwu6360 Smokes is a massive part of CS gameplay. So yes, big changes like this to smokes is gonna be extremely fun to play around with for a lot of people.

[@fightnight14]

We’re actually gonna see Shrood play more CS again. Woooh

[@ClaesLanng]

theres already footage of him playing the new counter strike 2

[@allcapsguy5629]

Where the fuck I am

[@smrah8750]

Shrimp?

[@lylevillanueva8624]

@@allcapsguy5629 YAAS

[@NexxZt]

tbh I would prefer him not to after the way he has shit talked the game. He only goes for what's popular at the time. Double-standard prick.

[@kenhiyoko941]

The volumetric smoke that interact with object and player input is such a cool concept in technical perspective, idk what kind of magic the devs are going to perform to make them run smoothly.

[@joeytmandude]

Computation is probably done server-side, which also ensures that everyone sees smoke in the same place and can't cheese with graphics settings.

[@Something_Disgusting]

​@@joeytmandude the issue with performance regarding volumetrics is less due to the spacial calculations and moreso the shader computation for the visual effect which is handled on the client.

[@toafloast1883]

@@Something_Disgusting the effect they are doing isnt actually all that expensive i think. this type of volumetric fog is usually just a bunch of blurred gray 2d images with sort of normal-map like lighting so the side facing the sun and other lightsources get lit up accurately, and it is very visible in lower quality settings (from streamers gameplay) that the number of layers gets reduced a lot, (you can see each layer) and the textures making up the layers gets reduced resolution aswell

[@allcapsguy5629]

My GTX1050 already struggling 😢

[@Something_Disgusting]

@@toafloast1883 of course, Valve always opts for peak optimization. I was just responding with saying that calculating only about 400 voxels is almost nothing for a computer, and the shaders used are far more impactful.

[@minimac0011]

I am actually really hyped for this. Been waiting for this for years.

[@phoenixmega6816]

Many many year….

[@GameStarSuxDix]

yeah been waiting for years too to make them change SMOKES. we dont need a working anticheat or something like that

[@fye755]

@@GameStarSuxDix he was just better than you, not a cheater

[@ThePlantedTankTV]

I’m beyond hyped! 😂

[@GameStarSuxDix]

@@fye755 okay bro. go play forkknife.

[@wbajohn3177]

The community maps are gonna be insane

[@grubby55]

I hope for warcraft 3 mod

[@Shikori_Tsuru]

@@grubby55 Maan, those were the good times. Same.

[@sneeki8082]

TF2 maps in CS2

[@sticky0159]

As someone who does Architectural 3D Renders, I love the graphical overhaul they did, the PBR textures paired with proper lighting brings a whole depth to the game visually. My minor graphical issue with CSGO was probably the natural daylighting outdoors because it doesn't look natural, the new natural daylighting is what I always see whenever I do exterior views and its exactly the same as what I always do, it just makes me genuinely giddy and happy about some minor detail. I might even consider map making as a hobby to test drive and experiment with the tools they are giving out to makers.

[@gahb4326]

As someone who does environment art on AAA games, its very disappointing. Sure lighting looks nicer and textures have better rez, but still it feels like the game was released a couple of years ago. I dont get the hype at all, like wow they added volumetric smoke, and better vfx lol

[@komplex6081]

​@gahb it's a big deal for a game that has been known for its accessibility to people with low quality computers. This is a huge step forward.

[@gahb4326]

@@komplex6081 Sure but that doesn't explain the hype around the game. Is the fact that the game is highly optimized hypes you up? then the same must be said for Ow2 for example.

[@komplex6081]

@@gahb4326 the gap between csgo to cs2 and ow1 to ow2 is much higher. Hype is built around new qualities of the game (check in the box for cs2) as well as time waited (csgo was released in 2012 compared to ow1 in 2016). Additionally, csgo has a bigger esports scene and has generally been more popular than ow ever was. There's your answer.

[@QGfk1]

​@@komplex6081 I think the comparison is in terms of the game being called "ow2" and "cs2". ow2 was only called a sequel bc the Activision higher ups were behind the curve on live service and, bc of the success of cod, decided that everything needed to be a sequel. ow2 was criticized for not actually being a new game, but compared to cs2 a lot more changed (bc ow was a broken dying mess whereas cs, as you said, is one of the most established competitive games in the world). cs2 is intentionally the same game in a new engine, they learned their lesson long ago with cs source. calling it cs2 is just a smart bit of marketing, especially with the rarefied air around numbered entries from valve

[@invor2212]

" Sometimes you do not notice you got an ace " yes, very relatable 👍

[@ForTheOmnissiah]

Ye for sure. I get Aces ALL the time and don't even realize it.

[@Jinx-iw6zb]

I don't even know if I get ace or not

[@sntslilhlpr6601]

Love how he mentioned vehicles. That was a bit of a sticking point between 1.6 and Source. Good to see someone like him mentioning it.

[@iSohaibKhan]

bullets you see creating holes like that are at the edge of the smoke shroud not in the middle of the smoke, it means the heavy the volume area of smoke you shoot at the more difficult to see through it, it is actually dope, just the shooting effect through smokes you'll get the idea & the info, so it's not easy to spam through smoke now the gameplay is totally different now

[@asdfag557]

2:13 the bullet part puts u at an equal disadvantage if u are shooting thru smoke someone can peek u from other side as well , i love it .

[@TacticalReaper56]

Ive seen a lot say "Source 2 is behind so many other engines" I've never seen reactive smoke that good. It's a very unique system they got going with smokes.yallnotice the shine to everything? I personally think with this new lighting shadows of enemies are gonna play a big part.

[@jamieeddolls5605]

Source is the best engine hands down for physics based stuff.

[@huyhoang7819]

@@jamieeddolls5605 as a l4d2 player, I confirmed this lol

[@zrATT_]

@@jamieeddolls5605 hehehEHEH GMOD RAGDOLLOE

[@aegrne8207]

Anyone that knows Valve knows that it doesn't matter core tech they're working with, they can turn anything into gold because they have the best in the industry working for them. They turned the Quake 1 engine into an engine that powers both Half-Life 1, 2, Alex, Portal, Titanfall, Apex.

[@Tyretes]

i never seen anybody who says s2 was behind. they use the engine to develop things that they needed to create. it would just take resources and time to develop the engine to have more broader use like UE. s&box is another game platform that utilizes the source2 engine to make limitless possibility of creating a game. take a look at them.

[@R3TR0J4N]

there's that uncanny similarities for visual improvement mostly lighting for source engine sequels like in L4D 2 and Titanfall 2

[@R3TR0J4N]

totally agree with the map comparisons form the previous, now being more lighter and more clearer. there's that postfx or lighting that keeps still images looks surreal also

[@berziimusic]

Now to extend what Shroud said about the vehicle commands and mechanics, if they brought back vehicle functionality they could make little racetrack maps (or the community could) and they could make a CS Race gamemode

[@maniacpwnageking]

Surf

[@NickBaysingar]

I'm pretty sure Valve is using Steam Audio for the new audio engine in CS2, so that shit is probably gonna be amazing. The tech demos for Steam Audio are pretty impressive.

[@kootrell]

I’d love to see a new Day of Defeat built on this engine. Honestly, those were my fondest gaming memories.

[@laughintrollface]

The aim training the smokes will offer will be nice. Having to react to where the smoke moves out of the way for the bullet

[@naitchi9315]

audio was already really good, i never got any trouble with it except with floor difference when you heard a guys like if he was next to you but he's in top of you

[@ThatBritishGuy]

9:00 i thought i was the ONLY HUMAN to play those maps, those vehicle maps in 1.6 was literally THE BOMB so fkin fun, people would run you over in the massive tanks and also you could go max speed in a vehicle and jump of to get max movement speed for bhopping and be flying around the map bhopping it was SO much fun honestly im glad you remember it and i do hope they bring that back the maps was called "funny_cars" btw

[@Grimvh2]

Roadrage_v2 fan?

[@LolAsdov]

Csgo has those too. You can ride a vehicle

[@pfdreaper9909]

I love how hyped he is in this video!!!!!

[@JESSROCKEDChannel]

Agreed. Maybe they need to make the hole smaller and faster to reseal

[@justinmadair]

Actually, it would be great if the bullets create a swirl pattern as it exits the smoke, but doesn't create a clear hole. That way there is information on where the person is without completely giving it away.

[@dennyf57]

imagine tarkov got this accurate audio

[@omaewamoushindeiru4190]

6:55 basically present day vs childhood

[@NYUTU-MG]

Would have been great to put your weapon to the side whilst defusing and a 0.3 second period till it goes back into your hands just to add to a next gen realism update and add more competitive edge to planted, defending plant and defusing

[@Lilboichu]

yo

[@ccl4004]

the nostalgia is strong in this one

[@AyukaAmameth]

@@ccl4004 fr

[@paffyy]

They havent played the newest ctx map :(

[@fakeplayer4243]

When dota 2 went on source 2 engine the custom games thrived so i hope cs2 will be the same

[@RomeEmpire123]

where the fuck i am?

[@ywbreezy4152]

I’m so amazed by the new game man aha I’m in love with it already hopefully it is good

[@JINX1441]

I want to see how the sub tick updates play out in practice. Could lead to some whacky effects.

[@MrBa143]

How so? Its essentially just the game servers running on a higher tickrate

[@obad7633]

​@WeeberDeeper not really it's kinda like when a tick hits it has to quickly back track and see what actions took place in the middle of the tick this could cause issues with bomb planting

[@akurasubject9617]

It could be an advantage for high ping players but who knows, like shroud said "i doubt it."

[@MrBa143]

@@obad7633 No, thats just server corrections based on timestamped packets, that already exists in the game. If you have a subtickrate of 4, that means the server is processing inputs 4 times inbetween each tick. So the data you receive on your client is more accurate. It is essentially just increasing the tick rate of the server, but still only sending back the game state 64 or 128 times a second.

[@v000000000000v]

@@obad7633 that's rollback netcode not tickless

[@JoeyBins]

Facts. I've recently had 2-3 aces where my friends go crazy and i didn't understand why.

[@happywabbit9062]

I wonder if the extra foliage will help disguise pop flashes and such

[@craziinategaming9021]

Im sure this is their way of shaking the meta of just spamming through smoke like you can do in every shooter. Just makes you think twice is all really. Do you wanna give up position and possibly lose a gun fight or use the smoke in a more tactical sense? I like this, just adds a small layer of strategy.

[@sirjezzumz]

Also do you want to prefrag the T side entry or do you wait for tside to throw their smokes and then frag their smokes to dissipate them.

[@ReallyNoOneAtAll]

Having played beta, the smokes have litlle to no effect on your FPS. Also, it's moreso the outer fringes of the smoke that get drastically affected by bullets due to the volume being thinner near the edges - unless you negev spray. Negev spraying smokes new meta 2023 confirmed. EDIT: Petition to bring back func_vehicle in Source 2 when?

[@ReallyNoOneAtAll]

@@freder1c False. I actually get more stable framerates on s2 than s1 and consistently higher. I'm also on AMD hardware and older dx9/dx10 games do not run well on it. I push over 300fps stable in s2 but rarely get above 150 on s1.

[@ReallyNoOneAtAll]

@@freder1c Nope. You're wrong. All there is to it.

[@wemakeasiansurveys4U]

​@@freder1c Putting your 5th grade grammar out for the world.

[@danielolmedo5822]

@@ReallyNoOneAtAll if you using Amd graphic driver there is a launch option that replaces dx9 to vulkan, its -vulkan, that video mode appeared in Danger zone battle royale patch

[@ReallyNoOneAtAll]

@@danielolmedo5822 No fuckin way. Thank you so God damn much.

[@gray4675]

I’m curious about the new sub tick system and how it’ll affect surfing. Having a dynamic tick rate might completely fuck surf physics

[@marksman1207]

I tried this on limited test patch and it's actually so freaking smooth and everything is on high and 8xmsaa

[@nexhi991]

What are your specs?

[@johngavin1448]

1.6 goofy maps and source deathrun bhop maps.... miss that shit.

[@Bachi562]

Shroud making CS2 content would be insane 😍

[@r0N1n_SD]

Those 1.6 shots gave so much Goosebumps

[@sebyouthere]

sameeeee

[@goochipoochie]

Why ? 1.6 always sucked. Was a joke compared to quake/ut etc during that era

[@hellothere9763]

​@@goochipoochie If u knew 1.6 you played 1.6. if u sucked u played quake and likes

[@sdHansy]

Can we stop referring to cs 1 as "1.6"? No other gale do we call it by it's release version number

[@kamay7021]

@@sdHansy Uh, how about no? 1) It literally doesn't matter. 2) It clears confusion. Think of it like HITMAN. We call HITMAN, HITMAN 2016, HITMAN 2 2018. We call MW 2019, MW 2019... MW2 2022.. Instead of saying CS, which can refer to the whole series GO, Source, and... default? We clear up any potential confusion with "1.6" and it shouldn't even bug you. Doesn't make sense dude, get a grip on reality

[@SuperWalle97]

well as long as audio doesnt become like the one on eft, its good

[@danieln6700]

im so glad they kept the skins, cant wait to play CS2

[@Luxx04]

So glad for pixels? 😴🥱

[@YuriLectrice]

@@Luxx04 that they spend hundreds on

[@Quizmaps]

😁

[@sandboy5880]

Imagine getting hyped for skins for 12 years old.

[@Davenzoid]

@@sandboy5880 imagine judging people for what they like

[@bcooper7618]

I hope that have a better anticheat with CS2

[@Sok12111]

yah bit concerning they didn't mention that, hopefully it's on their radar

[@KnJPlays]

They probably didn’t say anything because it would be like admitting there’s an issue currently. Hoping it’s something they improve as well.

[@jonathanmetzger3092]

HAHAHAHHA. No chance that happens.

[@random.9238]

they should've added phisics for the bomb so when it explodes things like signs and poles vibrate, so it give more impract to the explosion, with a little movement of the camera if you're close, would be epic, and maybe it can effect aim or recoil or smt, for the grenades.

[@MNASHIR]

If the developer improves the reflection technology... so the player could see through the opponent using the reflection, it makes you could discover some new game plan.

[@awesomepark7257]

Honestly the smoke is the best balanced smoke I’ve seen in a game

[@j0hnicide]

so glad CS is getting hype again

[@meh___78]

it has been reaching new all time peaks in terms of concurrent player count in recent months. also Stockholm 2021 and Antwerp 2022 were the 2 most viewers majors ever, so id say it’s still pretty hype.

[@QGfk1]

​@@meh___78 it has a massive and stable community, valorant definitely didn't eat into it as much as some expected. but this is clearly valve's bid to wrangle in new and lapsed players. this also may be a regional difference: I know cs is God in Europe and Brazi but valve will want to win back their market share in NA

[@BTDUBS123]

The supressed weapons need to be considered "subsonic" or something. They should not effect smokes

[@deddrz2549]

Seems like by what we've seen, looks sort of like 64 tick, but then every time a shot happens use the subtick to compare the position of the opponent to to position of the shot at the time before the tick to make sure the shot is correct. Things like kovement might be wiwrd for a while though

[@TheRedMarauder]

I think the tick rates for servers is very very important. Paired with NVIDIA Reflex. Meaning that when you shoot someone now, the game will actually measure when you fired. So if you have good ping, you aren't punished because someone had bad ping and they didn't even see you fire yet. Hit reg will be 1 Million Times better. (Not that CS had too much of an issue with that, but does fix it if it happens). However, this might result in more trades for people though. It will be interesting to say the least.

[@Steevvee]

match making did have a big problem with that, its alot more noticeable when you use an awp or scout an you line a shot up just for it to go through someone. This is such a good change for the game.

[@jamiea9047]

Server tick rate and client tick rate has nothing to do with NVIDIA Reflex. NVIDIA Reflex is always welcome as an option (and there were already ways to do similar things to what Reflex does) but it's not going to have any effect on hit reg, all it does it reduce render latency, which is good, but it doesn't do anything more than that. I haven't tried it yet, but from what I have watched it seems the tick rate thing is just marketing bs (the information that has been released anyway), even if the client has sub-ticks the server still has ticks even if dynamic or incorporating sub-ticks, and I don't think anything has been released about the server tick rates.

[@TheRedMarauder]

@@jamiea9047 I meant with NVIDIA boost the game will feel nice and responsive and when you fire the server actually will recognize it at that point. It will make the game feel incredibly smooth I feel. We will see if it is marketing BS though. If the game feels more responsive then they did something right? 😆

[@honordevs]

The subtick thing isn't them trying to save money, it's recording player actions on a micro level, then updating the ledger on server-side, so that it can be compared to client-side. It will also let them analyze if it's being edited by any client-side hacks.

[@resresres1]

so it's not really "sub-tick", it's really just timestamping player actions and sending it to the server.

[@honordevs]

@@resresres1 pretty much. it's like a ledger of things that are happening and the server verifies those things. The pros are: you can have completely accurate hit registration, in real time. The cons are: sometimes things happen on your screen, then the server corrects those actions (like you getting a kill and then it actually being you who died). It seems like they are using a combination, though. High tick-rate + "subticks", so nothing big like the aforementioned kill uno-reverse happens. I actually think it's a good idea, but we'll have to see how it plays out. Other companies have tried this before.

[@avual1501]

@@honordevs similar to rollback actually

[@IlyasIhazrir]

the shoot smoke is amazing , so that if u tryna count on luck and spray smoke in exchange u will give up ur position , so its a kill or dead situation

[@newinhuman]

hit the nail right on the head with the smoke update... yeah we could make destruction a thing but lets do something new... smoke is an essential tool and it's always under utilized, if that's the highlight im all for it... the only issue is if people are playing on low rez monitors, they'r probably not gonna care how good it looks. the sweat shops are gonna take a hit, oh well... it is perfectly realistic? it doesnt have to be to be fun... also the holes would close after a second or two from bullets depending on caliber... also regular grenades can kick up lots of shit in the air... we'll see how accurate those get soon.

[@pednekargandhar]

0:23 my man just said it looks like Fortnite, it was bad enough comparing some of the feature upgrades with Valorant and now it's Fortnite.

[@mugoftoothpaste1507]

It does look like modern fortnite in some cases. I don't feel like that's a bad thing because csgo feels a bit bland

[@damvoo1]

They should update matchmaking as well, I’d love to see what they could come up with

[@ohkage]

In what sense? With this tickrate system and new engine, I think it has already been updated a lot.

[@wemakeasiansurveys4U]

​@@ohkage They already have been changing matchmaking in GO for the last year.

[@simonmichelson8188]

@@wemakeasiansurveys4U still broken mm system

[@njohh]

I think they just need to make the bullet holes on the smokes smaller and it should be fine but i might be wrong

[@alyt12345]

Smoke shooting looks like because its gonna make a path through the smoke, unless you're lined up with the bullet path, its not going to reveal the shooter. So you'd really only see a hole open up through the smoke if it basically hit you? I feel like thats ok

[@g2esportssapaka872]

can't wait to be able to cook some eggs on my pc..

[@papi-sauce]

U mean steaks. 😂

[@AndyTandy]

7:00 - if you look at the place carefully, it looks real

[@khajitt]

no lol, it's still fake af, fake lighting fake textures

[@AndyTandy]

@@khajitt idk luks kinda real to me, kinda like a spot you would see on google maps

[@wednesdeity]

​@@AndyTandy the words of someone who doesn't go outsid

[@AndyTandy]

@@wednesdeity 😂😂 😂 u got me man!

[@grvvy5080]

I wonder with all the all the new foliage on trees and bushes if you’ll still be able to use certain nade/flash spots and if that said foliage will affect your throw either by bouncing off some weird map geometry or it not being able to fully phase through the texture..?? Any opinions anyone ?

[@WhatIsTheHeat]

10:40 not gonna lie I would probably do that. I have a thing from when I used to play condition zero where I would look at the direction the legs are pointing on teammates dead bodies and go that way because most likely an enemy was shooting from that way. It didn’t work as well in csgo after they changed the rag doll physics since bodies would jump around.

[@SomethingScotty]

I think the smoke thing would be better if they made it more like real life where the bullets passing through it will make the smoke swirl kind of but not blow big ass see-throughable holes in it, so like if you're really paying attention you might be able to spot where in the smoke the shot came from but it's not going to eliminate the purpose of it.

[@jaydynbristol8920]

I agree with the idea of certain guns being able to move the smoke, I was actually thinking that before he said it, like shotguns and maybe the awp/scout I think would be fine, but pistol and smg guns definitely shouldn’t be able to move it, and I’m torn on full auto guns like m4 Am Negev etc, it just seems like it would make smokes absolute

[@jaydynbristol8920]

Obsolete*

[@monochromatech]

Love seeing Shroud get pumped for CS2. Been playing CS since 1.4, before Steam existed and I love seeing ppl get excited for CS again. ETA: audio tip, my laptop came with Dolby Atmos, it was so good for CS I bought it for my gaming rig. It makes gaming so much better. Make a custom profile, don't use the default "gaming setting, though. With Atmos I can hear location cues from a long ways away.

[@CaughtSlackin_]

Bullets moving the smoke is great. Means people won't just spray through it like normal they'll have to pick and choose.

[@speismissing]

I hate myself sometimes because I had a vision of a team making an amogus outline out of the smoke...

[@BennyA-ky6tq]

Been waiting for csgo source 2 for so long

[@KaiUndMoritz]

10:30 lmao i did that ever since i binded a hotkey for cleardecals. Not needed in high level gameplay but if you pug its really nice info. Like a text mod like bananagaming released that highlights nades thrown by your team in chat. Cant even count the times i got information i needed to ask out of it. For example if an enemy flashed the spot or my teammate.

[@k-nun]

I got to play the limited test today, and the blood does actually auto clear after a few seconds which is cool

[@tsuaririndoku]

Shooting through smoke might be a game changing because if you shoot first = dead giveaway. I think smoke is use for maneuvering instead of using it as a blind shot now.

[@xATLANTIXx]

The first thing I thought of when Shroud said "ooohhh RTX on" was "and....FPS off" lol

[@furiouslx5303]

Lmao yeah. I really hope it’s optimized.

[@rishis4292]

Doesn't matter get 700 fps now anyways

[@jams_at_vans]

I think the gunfire eliminating a smoke is not that realistic. What's more believable is that the bullets that will pass on smoke must have a bit of smoke cloud or line after the bullet which reveal trajectory.

[@yumcooki3z]

> CS > not that realistic 😂

[@iTzWoodstock]

Omg they did it back in bo1 I had this idea that smoke should fill a room the way it did in that circle I just was only a teenager and didn’t know how but they did it!!❤

[@professor333]

Bro became professor for 12 min, explained everything to some backbenchers. Smart guy for real.

[@stormzo6235]

if theres a dev that will take time to epitomize the smokes to not make a huge fps hit, its valve

[@pcrizz]

Smoke should probably take more than 1 bullet to *entirely* displace if it doesn't already, depending on the bullet, even a small area of smoke, but it could affect smoke opacity until fully displaced, and then the smoke fills back in anyway according to duration. It makes sense that a high damage semi auto might entirely displace the small area, but a pistol likely shouldn't have the same effect because then you just have one teammate on rotation spamming smoke for your marksman.

[@delpow]

it'd b dope if the character kept squirting blood the more wounded he was that way it would give more info as to where an opponent might have been at or where he is going

[@flyingtank0_087]

CS2 needs good anti-cheat, no more cheaters, please!!!

[@papi-sauce]

Ya that’s one major thing they didn’t add 😂

[@papi-sauce]

@@KingGamerz293 not asking for perfect just dont want blatant cheating like aim bot or walls at least.

[@flyingtank0_087]

@@KingGamerz293 IF Cheater encounters 1 out of 10? I don't say this. I just want CS2 not to become "Cheaters Survive 2"

[@Meiloscripts]

"Hey it looks like fortnite" shroud no pls no

[@DrippyG9]

Fortnite CS 😭😭😭

[@JuT11]

The grenade doesn't cancel the smoke, after the explosion it's just gonna fill back up with smoke again

[@bbsonjohn]

8:50 I agree. I want my as_crazytanks in CS2

[@hansplaysrengar3692]

The fact that csgo was a game who couldv run on almoste every pc, was an total savior for us unlucky gamers.... Right now... Man, my pc will go boom

[@psych0CS2]

Your pc can handle source2. Its valve. They optimize everything for potato pcs

[@R3TR0J4N]

eh its source 2, like titanfall 2 udpated source engine, itll run positively

[@hansplaysrengar3692]

@@psych0CS2 if you say so.. i will give it a try

[@hansplaysrengar3692]

@@R3TR0J4N oh i seee... ima try

[@TUTOSANDROIDtutorialesymas]

@@hansplaysrengar3692 GL

[@YeahLowful]

Waited a decade for a patch update

[@NeKoRoSYS]

Ungrateful bozo it's more than a patch

[@Buggolious]

What did you expect

[@Spillow-C]

@@Buggolious a actual new counter strike? valve now is so fucking lazy its depressing, they were the kings of pc gaming before, masterpiece after another couple of years apart

[@Buggolious]

@@Spillow-C that would be very risky since csgo is so successful already

[@Spillow-C]

​@@Buggolious yeah, thats what it means do sequels of games

[@typerightseesight]

I'm assuming it'll be fun to blow a shotgun shell sized hole through a smoke grenade. But, I am way more interested in if we are going to finally be able to shoot pulled or pinned grenades out of peoples hands/the air.

[@k3anu_s]

The pixel lineups when people line up on shadows is gonna be crazyyy

[@kal2352]

They need destructible limited environments, like boxes or temporary cover etc. This will add new strategic elements to the game and differentiate it with Valorant.

[@frutato7498]

It's the inverse. Valorant might need more things to differentiate itself from CS.

[@nonautemrexchristus5637]

CS doesn't need to change to suit valorant, that game is like a candy crush knock off of CS made in a basement

[@Arizzic]

@@frutato7498 what

[@aegrne8207]

@@frutato7498 this guy gets it.

[@zrATT_]

@@frutato7498 maybe more agents and abilities

[@JR-mk6ow]

I'm surprised that he didn't say: "iT's nOt TaRkoV". That's has been his opinion on most shooters like Tarkov is some kind of masterpiece lol

[@RemlapL99]

It differentiate the trucks on A overpass which is nice for new players blue and orange

[@GaudiGz]

i'm pretty sure the circle made by the bullets in the smoke is gonna get nerfed it will probably still react to them but the circle will be smaller, it should be smaller

[@jovanjovanovic7721]

Shroud try not to complain challenge 3 minutes. (I love shroud)

[@kianmarcial8884]

It's more of a criticism than a complain, but i get your point

[@R3TR0J4N]

i give him the moments when it comes to games his used too, mostly fps shooter genres, but on other, id keep it as opinions. like previous PC hardware stuff, and given other genres.

[@TUTOSANDROIDtutorialesymas]

Stream was awful, Tarik made it even worse man, they didn’t ever try to look at unbiased, it was always some comparison to valorant. Look try to 50/50 look for a good thing and for a thing that needs changing cuz when you are shroud ur words have power, people are gonna hate on a game that isn’t even out yet and that they haven’t tried themselves cuz a streamer that doesn’t enjoy the base game even said a couple of really mundane things

[@lloydchristmas1086]

​@@TUTOSANDROIDtutorialesymas what u expect? tarik hasnt left his room in 10 yrs 😂

[@LittleLight_]

Hey shroud doubt you’re going to look at this comment but do you plan to go pro for CS2?

[@shroud]

👀

[@LeRicckk]

​@@shroud lol 😂 wasnt expecting this

[@LittleLight_]

@@shroud wait a sec he actually saw😭

[@firework8140]

correct me if Im wrong, the sub-tick updates means that when you release your movement key, it stops the player character immediately right? so counter-strafing during gun play no longer needed?

[@Lu-ql]

No. That is not what it means at all. Counter-strafing if still a thing.

[@crimsonpirate9]

Sounds like audio on nuke might have been fixed

[@ballzack1747]

The current cs weathrr gives you the vibe of its gonna be catastrophic day, someone gonna bomb the city! While the new one is more like, "Wow, would you look at that, what a beautiful day to bomb a city!"

[@TUTOSANDROIDtutorialesymas]

Perfect

[@LxrdRaiin]

They put all this work into lighting and graphics just for 99% of the players to use lowest graphics 😂

[@dingus6317]

tick rate still cool though

[@boost800]

legit 😆all the teens in russia and east europe playing on potato pcs

[@nauikunart]

5:15 bruh , mark Zuckerburg tryna test the game!

[@im_badatgames2355]

basically csgo but the colors of valorant and a new smoke

[@ocklyrajab7177]

lol its HL Alyx color grading

[@lloydchristmas1086]

haha

[@bobbobby5089]

It’s…… the same game with updated graphics slapped with csgo 2 name on it

[@FangMania9898]

Yup,...... With all the same aesthetic design from maps to skins and colours 🤮🤮

[@trexeon9563]

I don't get why people are saying this. What were you expecting? The gameplay was never the problem of counter strike, the visuals were. This is simply the definitive version of counter strike.

[@zetsubou3704]

@@trexeon9563 It's either CS players debating with other CS players or debating with Valo players. None can sit quiet ffs.

[@trexeon9563]

@@zetsubou3704 Nobody can ever be satisfied smh

[@RESNTd]

@@trexeon9563 Not about be satisfied .... You cant call it a new game with it having every single map and gun being from cs1 just diffrent models and thats only in 3-4 guns LOL this shit is trash for being worked on for 10 years

[@SynystarYT]

I kept trying to close the video suggestion pop up and kept pausing the video lmaooo