Shubibinman Zero retrospective: Punch-drunk love | Super NES Works Gaiden #02

[@luisguillermojg]

"Here's to a better, more accessible future." *character is knocked back and falls to his death* Not very auspicious.

[@alexandernichols413]

I am constantly amazed and confused by how under appreciated your work is. I love your videos! 😸👍

[@Levitz9]

I kinda miss when villainesses were vain-types who would just "O-HO-HO~" in and out of a protagonist's life to cause heck. Like Naga the Sorceress. Anyone remember Naga? Yeah, the 90s were a long time ago...

[@beipiaosaurus]

Ever since first hearing the "oh-ho-ho!" trope in anime, I've been curious what its origin is. I've always assumed there was some famous Japanese actress in the 50s or something that had that laugh, but if anyone knows please do tell.

[@MynameisHukos]

Every time I see a game from NCS/Masaya it always ends up impressing me in some way.

[@willmistretta]

This is way less weird that their twisted, dick-filled shooters like Cho Aniki and Wings of Wor, that's for sure.

[@MynameisHukos]

Weirdly enough, my favorite Masaya shooter is Gleylancer, which fortunately contains no dicks.

[@duffman18]

I'm downloading every ROM game file for every console I can before they're gone. Though they'll always be available somewhere I'm sure, but just in case. Your videos are great man, I've heard about a lot of stuff I've never heard of before from you. Especially the game boy stuff as few people cover game boy games

[@Pridetoons]

duffman18 I'm right with you doing that. I downloaded most of the NES, SNES, and Genesis roms. Now I'm on MAME and Neo Geo, but next is PS1, PS2, Saturn, etc.

[@contrabandresearch8409]

Archive dot org has a bunch of collections of roms and isos. Do searches for "Sega CD Special Collection" and look up the uploader called MadHatterSez because he has a bunch of collections of roms and Isos.

[@JeremyParish]

Thanks, glad you're digging the videos

[@johnsimon8457]

You probably want to look at the GoodSNES torrents because others have done that work for you ten years ago. Though, again, pile of roms + Japanese tiles = lots of unknowns, even twenty ears later What’s more, lots of cultural context around releases goes over our heads because this is Japan. people digging into all of this is valuable

[@Pridetoons]

Contraband Research Thank You!

[@cinnamonnoir2487]

I think what bothers a lot of people about Nintendo's attitude is the "dog in the manger" quality. They have no intention of trying to market or make a profit off of the vast majority of emulated games in any way, yet they won't let fans enjoy them. Unlike old books or record albums, forgotten games are rarely dug up and re-released because it's so much more expensive to do so; there's no equivalent to the small presses and record labels that buy up the rights to older works and market them. The legal remedy to this unpleasant situation is in the limited term of copyright, so that if a copyright holder doesn't market something for long enough it falls into the public domain and can be freely used. It's exactly the same as with patents; the _goal_ is to publicize inventions so that they can ultimately be enjoyed by everyone. I think it's a shame that our own system has extended copyright terms so long that the benefit of copyright to the public is scarcely apparent. It just provokes frustration with the whole idea of copyright and leads people to disrespect and disregard ownership of intellectual property. That being said, I think a lot of emulation sites don't do themselves any favors when they mix defunct games and still-active games on the same website. There's no excuse for pirating a game that's freely available in the market on reasonable terms, but people tend to treat emulation as more of a treasure chest than an archive of forgotten games. Nintendo could deal with this by just asking them to take down any ROMs for games they're currently selling, but "subtlety" isn't exactly Nintendo's forte.

[@gabrieleriva651]

Cinnamon Noir also, it is thanks to the emulation scene that The Mystara Collection, the Disney Afternoon Collection and Star Fox 2 happened. It is thanks to the rom download that people discovered those games and showed love and demand for them for decades.

[@cinnamonnoir2487]

Yep. Availability of games you _aren't_ selling can actually drive demand for games that you _do_ want to sell. It's counterintuitive, and I would never suggest that companies should pay for the opportunity, but I wish more of them would just let it happen and trust their fans.

[@KuraIthys]

The term 'intellectual property' is part of the problem. It's been used as a propaganda weapon to undermine the legitimacy of the public value of creative works in favour of the idea that they are 'property' of their creators, in the same exact way that a car or a house is someone's property. It's much easier to justify making the copyright terms longer and longer (or even indefinite) when you frame the discussion in terms of 'property rights', rather than the way it was originally framed. (copyright being a legal mechanism to COMPENSATE creators for releasing their work to the public. It's not ownership, it's compensation. As long as this concept of copyright as ownership persists, so will the tendency to make these laws ever more abusive and restrictive.) I'd absolutely set up a small publishing service for retro games if I had any idea how to navigate the legal minefield of rightsholders by the way... I mean, I've been trying to design a hardware platform to make game releases on SNES easier and cheaper... (think something similar to what the SD2SNES does but for commercial re-releases with dedicated mini cartridges rather than being designed to run ROM images off an SD card. Similar on a technical level, but focused more on re-releases, and not on roms...) Still, aside from my own homebrew projects, while I could certainly set myself up as a publisher of sorts, I simply wouldn't know where to begin in terms of getting rights to existing games... Tracking down who owns them is tricky, and trying to determine whether they'd sell them or not even more so... (Not to mention I don't particularly have the financial resources to go about things that way in the first place, so it becomes something of a moot point.)

[@awanderer5446]

Great video, thank you! One of the stand-out features of this game that I didn't hear mentioned explicitly is its simultaneous two-player mode which is fairly rare as far as SNES platformers go. Just a great game overall, I especially love the music!

[@shorterrecording]

For a fairly insubstantial, beefed-up NES game, I really love this one. Just a whole lot of fun. Maybe not a ton of replay value, (not even as much as something like DuckTales, which had more exploration and different endings) but the co-op option brings Shubibinman toward the upper tier of the SNES library, for me.

[@bluebogle]

I chuckled for a solid 10 seconds at your "Wo ho ho ho" laugh. Solid video as always!

[@gabrieleriva651]

Hi Jeremy, just one correction: Fire Emblem Thracia 776 wasn’t a Satellaview game, but a Nintendo Power one (not the magazine, but that digital distribution via kiosk method).

[@ajpiskel]

"O ho ho ho" -Jeremy Parish, 2018

[@defunctchannel942]

Classic Noblewoman's Laugh

[@JeremyParish]

I can't claim credit for that line, I was just quoting Galko

[@ajpiskel]

Thanks for these videos Jeremy and for being so entertaining.

[@SEGAClownboss]

Jeremy is into ojous, I knew I could count on him

[@JeremyParish]

What can I say, I first encountered Kodachi Kunou at an impressionable age

[@RetroCabeza]

Great preservation points. And great video, as always! :)

[@jonothanthrace1530]

6:45 the pickaxe sticking in your dude's head is a great little touch.

[@MiguelPaulettePerez-bj8ml]

The introduction to this video is why I watch you

[@contrabandresearch8409]

Cool! I like seeing games get another shot at being remembered and played.

[@StiffAftermath]

Whoa! Sweet game! Thanks for the retrospective!

[@deathsceane]

While ultimately not important there is a powered-up version of the charged shot, but it requires 2 players since one player has to shoot their charged shot at their partner while he/she is charging up.

[@kreftmaker]

This is a great game honestly. Very fun and satisfying to beat up enemies

[@antshield]

Oh my god!! I just randomly beat this game last week. Now I get to learn about it! This games amazing. So fun.

[@Protoman85]

Oh I just realized the "super aniki" storefront there, NCS also made Cho Aniki, so...

[@fireflocs]

It's pretty awesome that this got released.

[@robertrada4783]

Nice National Console Support shout out! 🙏

[@HybridAngelZero]

This looks awesome! I am definitely importing a cartridge of this :D

[@gargonovich]

You can do a dragon punch in this game, too, same button combo and everything. It really sheds the larger bosses.

[@JeremyParish]

Could never get it to fire off consistently.

[@Teknoman]

Retrobit is re-releasing this in English as of now, or taking preorders anyway

[@Pridetoons]

4:28 The scientist in Shubibinman looks somewhat like Rick from Rick and Morty.

[@MaxwelThuThu]

Awesome game! Except for the MMX/Area 88 guitar sample, the game's sondtrack in general is really unique. It's very good.

[@samghost13]

NICE!

[@JetstreamGW]

Man. This thing would do great on Steam with the right kind of hype. Or, hell, Switch.

[@chrisuniverse9392]

1:17 “Dear god what is this torment” indeed... How could somebody possibly mangle the game that bad? It’d probably look better if I played it on a Nomad via an RF connection displayed on my LCD TV. That’s just sad.

[@JeremyParish]

If you think it looks bad, you should hear how it sounds. Its rendition of Green Hill Zone is the video game music you hear as you drown in a pool of molten sulfur in Hell.

[@THEmuteKi]

I assume it's badly recorded / transcoded. While the sound is its own special firmware foolishness (easily fixed with custom firmware for the unit) I've seen footage of these things that looks much better than that clip. Either way, the collections on Steam are a better option.

[@JeremyParish]

I recorded that clip myself, and that's exactly what it looked like on my end, kid.

[@THEmuteKi]

@@JeremyParish wow. That's horrifying. I swear those things have too good a reputation then, considering.

[@JeremyParish]

You're telling me. Here's my source capture. The sound fell out of sync with the video and I upscaled it to 720p with a Framemeister, but it's otherwise spot-on. Jump ahead to 2:50 for the real fun to begin. kzbin.info?o=U&video_id=XriZiiQxu0A

[@radracer8889]

This is great game, picked up a copy of the re-release. A bit on the easy side, but a great coop game none the less.

[@thechrononaut1]

I noticed one of the bosses is named Kage Maru. Isn't that the name of the Shinobi character from Virtua Fighter? It's been a while since i played it. Easter egg?

[@JeremyParish]

Nah, it's just a shared cliché. "Kage" means shadow and "maru" was a suffix for male names in feudal Japan, which these days is used to either suggest a character from antiquity or else one who upholds old traditions. So Kagemaru is just a very on-the-nose name for a ninja character.

[@thechrononaut1]

You know, Jeremy, every time you speak, I learn something.

[@samghost13]

I am working on a Google Drive with all Roms that i can get. I work on my DC games right now and i have a lot more of other systems games

[@Septer_Sever]

Does this game support a save feature? If not, just one more reason to emulate. Plus, it's much cheaper to emulate on a 4k TV then to get an RGB setup with a "decent" upscaler. I still respect the fact that some publishers are taking a risk releasing forgotten games like this. I imagine they are sold out, since I don't see a link in the description.

[@MaxwelThuThu]

This game is credit based, save feature for a short game like this doesn't make sense.

[@JeremyParish]

The cart does not support a save feature, because that would have no point. It's designed in the style of an arcade game and only gives you three credits to reach the end.

[@willmistretta]

Any thoughts on the official Holy Diver NES release next week? I'd love to see you cover that one.

[@JeremyParish]

It is very hard.

[@willmistretta]

Very rewarding, though. Much like taking the high road with your KZbin comments over the easier "that's what she said" route.

[@JeremyParish]

I'm a little torn on whether or not it's rewarding. Mostly it makes me want to play Castlevania.

[@willmistretta]

Different strokes, I reckon. Tough games are bliss for me because I'n not the type that gets frustrated. The more they require of me, they more I just have to buckle down and get into the zone. Nothing beats that Zen-like flow state when I'm in sync with a really demanding game. That experience is the absolute pinnacle of the hobby for me. So, yeah, you might say I'm kind of predisposed to be a major Irem fan.

[@siskavard]

So it's melee Megaman

[@JeremyParish]

Yes, but it hates you less than Mega Man Zero did.

[@shadowscribe]

Setting aside the legal hoops in hosting games. It is profoundly unlikely Nintendo is going to use their virtual console thing on the subscription network remotely like these ROM libraries, even with the stuff they CAN provide.

[@jorymil]

If publishers don't want to make their old works available, I have zero problems with them being available on ROMs sites. Download-only formats were a start, but when they're retired in order to force sales of a new console (here's looking at you, Nintendo Wii Store), ROM sites are more than just respectable: they're performing a valuable public service. Something's value to society should not be measured solely by its _economic_ value.

[@JetWolfEX]

The game is a lot easier if you find the main character's secret shoryuken style attack, it's same button command as street fighter and is very overpowered. Satellaview had some interesting unique games, most people just focus on BS Zelda and ignore the rest which is disappointing. those other games are unlikely to get released like this one.

[@JeremyParish]

I could never get that to fire off consistently for some reason.

[@chadkirk150]

All I have to say about the elimination of rom sites is that thank Kratos that I own a repro cart of the English translated Mother 3 because Nintendo isn't in a rush to sell us that game. And also I'm holding on to my Retro Freak now since I can back up the majority of my collection.

[@LakituAl]

1:00 obligatory "ja I'm made of dur butter" comment.

[@RyumaXtheXKing]

Biggest flaw of the game are the weak bosses. They have almost no invincibility frames and one charge attack can destroy them completly. Who thought that was a good idea? I really wish companies would care more for their past, prime example with Nintendo. Why not rerelease (at least some) Virtual Boy games for the 3DS or hell, some light gun games for the Wii. Battle Clash and sequel are really fun.

[@colonelsandwich641]

This game looks awesome, but I don't have a Super Famicom :(

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

You can always buy a US SNES and just pull out the tabs inside the cartridge slot, that works.

[@rubberwoody]

you telling e there was a rockman rip off named shockman?

[@ERMediaOfficial]

The plural of octopus is octopuses because it is a latin word. Octopi is mixing latin with greek and thats a no-no^^ Yes, THAT's the line I take away from that video XD

[@Decidetto]

The -us to -i plural is actually purely Latin. Masculine ancient Greek words end in -os, and are conjugated differently. (They become -oi when plural.)

[@JeremyParish]

Octopus is Greek, but the dictionary accepts both "octopuses" and "octopi." I prefer the latter because Octopus Pie was a great comic.

[@furrymessiah]

You know the old adage, "Vote with your wallet"? Well I have. By choosing to never purchase another product from Nintendo ever again. Any good will I had for the company from earlier times has evaporated, and the shuttering of EmuParadise was the last straw.

[@SuperFirstSecond]

I know Nintendo is the easy target in all of this, but its the entire industry at fault. Western companies aren't much better, especially since modern games can disappear just as easily due to licenses and online-only services. There really should be some sort of industry approved centralized location to host these types of games. Culpeper, Virginia (my hometown) has the "National Audio-Visual Conservation Center", a branch of the Library of Congress that is focused on Audio Visual preservation and I know some of the people there have been trying to find a way into game preservation. Hopefully this creates some sort of catalyst towards that.

[@KuraIthys]

I find the legalities underlying game re-releases quite worrying. There's plenty of evidence that licensed games require the licence holder to give permission for the re-release, which is dumb. Worse is music licensing, which means the music rights holders have to give permission for a game re-release, but worse, some are fixed term contracts such that even existing copies of the game are legally obligated to patch out the music once the license expires! (if that's plausible on the hardware the game was originally on of course.) Both of those just sound idiotic to me. I feel like at the very least, a game using 3rd party licenses should have it as a stipulation that these licenses remain valid indefinitely for the purposes of re-selling that existing game title... Otherwise you make an already awkward process even more troubled...