SIBLING RIVALS -- 2025 Subaru Forester vs. Subaru Outback: Comparison

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@CarConfections 3 ай бұрын

Are you looking to buy a Subaru Outback, Forester or any new vehicle? Go to carconfections.com/new-car-quotes/ to get the BEST price and access to invoice pricing information!

@yamaha642 2 ай бұрын

Is there not a Touring trim on the Outback? Should bring the price closer to the Forester

@thomasb.1124 3 ай бұрын

On 3rd Outback. 2 over 200,000 miles with no issues 21 with almost 100k already. I feel the outback rides better and is quieter. Plus I like the longer cargo area. Average over 33mpg. Always almost 600 miles to a tank is awesome for traveling.

@MrPootzen 3 ай бұрын

hybrid Outback would be even better!

@movieclipscobrakia9971 3 ай бұрын

How about cvt save

@steve8803 3 ай бұрын

@@MrPootzen sounds like he does mostly highway driving, in which case hybrid is not worth the extra upfront cost.

@markwetty2269 3 ай бұрын

I have had two Outback’s and one Forester, liked both but the Outback is a bit quieter and feels somewhat premium.

@thomasb.1124 3 ай бұрын

@@markwetty2269 Agree I do feel it’s more premium.

@nopalez100 3 ай бұрын

I would have loved a comparison between FULLY loaded Outback and Forester... I really enjoy and appreciate your content.

@KastkingAngler 3 ай бұрын

Just bought a 2025 Outback Touring XT. It has all the features of the Forester except for the 360 camera.

@madcolor 2 ай бұрын

Viewer Tip: When reviewing a car like a Forester (or any Subaru or AWD vehicle).. The reviewer should always say: "I'm 5'10"." Then get into the back cargo area and lay down and sit up (if possible). There are a ton of us who consider these vehicles for car camping. It'd be nice to get a sense of how that feels.

@KimKirchner-i6j 3 ай бұрын

Great comparison!We were headed towards the 2025 Forester, but after test-driving a 2024 Outback XT, we changed our minds!

@arvindn6384 3 ай бұрын

I have owned 2 Foresters, Premium and Touring and wanted the 2025 but after driving the Outback Touring XT, I changed my mind. The extra power and features won me over. 😊

@Zanderthelab 3 ай бұрын

You didn’t even try the forester…

@sandhill9313 3 ай бұрын

@@Zanderthelab The turbo XT Forester? Where I live turbo is a near must, so Forester does not enter the discussion...🙂

@KNRS927 3 ай бұрын

I've always liked the Outback and with the Forester shooting up in price this latest redesign being almost identical to the Outback in price, I'd easily go Outback.

@joeanunez 3 ай бұрын

Bring the Turbo XT engine back to Forrester!

@scottanthony3426 3 ай бұрын

Yup. I have a '14 and am looking for an eventual replacement. (I say "eventual" because nothing has quite hit the spot on other SUV's I've been trying out.) The modern XT Outback is not the old Forester XT in an Outback body. In addition to the 250 HP turbo 2L, the Forester XT included bigger wheels/tires, bigger brakes, a sportier suspension, and special XT front fascia. It has "sport" and "sport sharp" buttons on the steering wheel, to easily access those modes. While the current Outback XT uses the 2.4 L and puts out a little more power than my 2L, Outbacks are about 400 lbs heavier than Foresters. They did NOTHING to improve the suspension on the Outback XT's vs the regular 2.5L Outback. And, there is only a single sport mode, which is buried 2 screens deep on the clunky user interface touch screen. I was disappointed when I drove it, and didn't feel like the penalty in gas mileage was worth the cost, given the underwhelming performance and features. And BTW, Car Confections kind of glossed over the acceleration, but IMO, the 2.5 in the Forester is barely "adequate". It is fine around town, but once you need to accelerate past 50, it really shows its lack of punch. In the heavier Outback, it's even worse, and something I definitely felt. (I drove a '24 Forester 2.5 back-to-back with both Outback drivetrains on the exact same route.) I hope the hybrid packs a little more punch. I can tolerate my next one not being quite as quick as my XT (especially if the mpg is significantly better), but I could not see having another 10 year relationship with a Forester that is packing the wheezy 2.5L drivetrain. Toyota has managed to make the RAV4 hybrid accelerate better than their gas only RAV 4, so I hope Subaru follows suit. It will be interesting to see what the hybrid is, and how they manage it with the Symmetrical AWD. The old Crosstrek hybrid was really mild and provided very minimal benefit.

@AntilleanConfederation 3 ай бұрын

@@scottanthony3426if you want to try a good outback try the wilderness.

@sandhill9313 3 ай бұрын

@edysinsimon8646 me two

@lindathomas2407 3 ай бұрын

You two do a great job on these comparison videos-showing what you’re talking about and the point system really help clarify the differences. Keep them coming!!

@CarConfections 3 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@sethsensaboy3524 3 ай бұрын

Wife had a 2018 Forrester touring reserved her a 2024 Forrester. While waiting for the Forrester I ended up with a 2024 white outback touring 2 weeks later we canceled the Forrester and she got a 2024 outback limited....in white

@bruceobrown534 2 ай бұрын

Hi ya - I enjoyed this comparison, however, comparing the 25 Forester Touring to a 24 Outback Premium might not be a fair comparison. The 25 Outback (when it is released) might also have all the same features as the Forester for which you gave the extra points. IMO, you should have waited until the 25 Outback was released and do a true comparison between the 25 Outback Touring to the 25 Forester Touring. Having said that, I currently own a 23 Legacy Touring XT and have a 24 BRZ tS being delivered in August. The BRZ will be my 10th Subaru having previously purchased 2 Foresters, 5 Outbacks, and 2 Legacys. I'm kinda 'sold' on Subaru. Thanks for this comparison - stay safe and healthy!

@CarConfections 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Our review of the 2025 Outback is posting in a few days, there are no meaningful changes

@m3rdpwr 3 ай бұрын

I bought a slightly used 2023 Subaru Outback touring XT 3 months ago. Three big things that I wanted that the Forester didn't have, was the updated infotainment with wireless play, the turbo and ventilated seats. The new Forester takes care of two of those things, which is why I believe we will be trading in my wife's old Nissan Rogue SUV for the new Forester next year, possibly a hybrid model.

@adamrenissance3322 2 ай бұрын

I chose the Outback and three years later I am very happy. I got the Limited with the 2.5 and I am averaging 31.1 mpg real world driving. My Subaru Outback is the first time I could afford a luxury car. I know Volvo owners will not like that. 1997 was the last time I bought a new car so I did a lot of comparison shopping. I chose it over the Honda CRV. Incidentally my daughter chose the CRV. I also chose the Subaru over Nissan Rogue, Toyota RAV4, Mazda CX5, and the Volvo CX60

@grantbenjamin5808 3 ай бұрын

The rear seat windows on the Outback roll down all the way. The rear seat windows on the Forester only go down ⅔ of the way.

@бредлит 3 ай бұрын

Вы садитесь на диван через окна?

@RScottNH 3 ай бұрын

I like the fog lights on the Outback better than the Forester.

@CAMPFIRESKY 3 ай бұрын

The new 2025 FORESTER looks like a FORD and not a SUBARU. Very sad.

@lordvadore1960 3 ай бұрын

I agree. Which is why I'm looking at purchasing the 2024 Outback Onyx Edition or Wilderness. I love the ground clearance in the Outback Wilderness Edition.

@davidjym 3 ай бұрын

I care more about car company rather than their designs.

@jetskiwu Ай бұрын

Since I wouldn’t get the turbo either way I went with the forester. The car I had before was a 2016 forester and I just really liked how spacious the cabin felt on the forester over the outback (especially with the moonroof). IMO both cars are great and really worth looking in to. I would just say it’s important to actually sit in the car and see which one you like the feel of better.

@fregion4 3 ай бұрын

One reason not to buy any of Subaru's current model, based on my experience as an owner of a 2024 Outback and 2019 Forester, is the 12-inch touch screen that controls almost everything. Touch screens rely entirely on sight, making it nearly impossible to build muscle memory like with physical controls. They're often slow and require taking eyes off the road, increasing the risk of accidents. Using them often requires taking your eyes off the road or constantly shifting your focus between the screen and the road Carmakers are willingly ignoring the fact that things can go south in a blink of an eye. Tech is good but it has to be implemented in such a way that controls are accessible and purpose fit. I will reiterate: touch screens lack tactile feedback and rely entirely on sight and you either have to constantly shift focus between the road and the screen or stare at the screen which is clearly not fit for purpose nor accessible. Also the position is seated far below the driver's line of sight which increases the driver's response time when operating the touch screen. In a UI/UX perspective, Subaru and automakers who do the same thing will earn a failing grade. More on this is how bad the implementation of AC controls are and I can summarize it like this: cramped and buried. Cramped on a tiny portion of the screen and buried the remaining controls under menus. Remember, things can go south in a blink of an eye. If you chose a trim that has the driver monitoring system, it will scream at you for fumbling on the screen which is them sort of penalizing you for how bad they have implemented things.

@cyndiecityify 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree with you !! I worry about being in a situation where you need defrost asap . I definitely wish both had actual knobs .

@davidrenwick6334 3 ай бұрын

@@cyndiecityify i understand and share your concerns as i don't like relying on the touchscreen for most climate controls but defrost has its own physical button

@davidjym 3 ай бұрын

Most cars have stupid large touch screens nowadays. I much prefer the current 2024 Forester interior.

@zoneundertop 2 ай бұрын

At night changing controls on screen is highly dangerous, focus needed, contrast change from road to screen all takes time away from watching road especially in adverse conditions strong winds, unfamiliar roads or rough bumpier, potholed filled or pedestrians all around.

@SMBowers Ай бұрын

I agree that touchscreens in vehicles seem dangerous but maybe the passenger could help the driver out but of course there is not always a passenger.

@prgonzas Ай бұрын

Best comp. Thanks

@michaelmooney1474 Ай бұрын

Outback Reclining back seats. Not much recline,but what a great place to be. I've had both. Love them both. Great car / especially considering the price point.

@CRVgarage 3 ай бұрын

Does blind spot system beep on the new Forester to alert the driver?? Honda, mazda, hyundai, kia, chevy offer the audible beep.

@kevinW826 3 ай бұрын

My wife hates wagons, that’s ironic since she is from South Africa and wagons are a big seller, so I need to try and sell her on the outback as my next car. Should be fun.

@NDT-hw7nr 3 ай бұрын

Going to the dealer tomorrow for my first Subaru.. I have a Scion FRS and love it. Tomorrow i'll either drive out with an Outback or an Ascent! Probably an outback though!

@PureLotusPond 18 күн бұрын

I live in a cold area. I wear gloves for half the year. I wonder if I can operate the touch screen while wearing gloves? If not, I would have to take off my gloves every time I need to use the tablet, which would be annoying.

@automobilecentral342 3 ай бұрын

Funny story, in Japan, the Outback offers a digital guage cluster, but again, not available for US models. F However I am still going for an outback being the fact that I own a 2020 outback

@braddruehl6786 3 ай бұрын

I've always loved the Outback, but the base engine is underpowered and I don't want a turbo. The new Forester has some nice additional features (360-degree camera, ventilated seats, larger screen), so I would wait until next year and get the hybrid Forester for more power and better fuel economy.

@jimwilliams7136 29 күн бұрын

The Touring XT has the camera in the rear view mirror.

@jimwilliams7136 11 күн бұрын

Traded in my 9 year old Legacy for a 2025 Outback Tourinng XT. I wouldn't trade my XT for anything else on the road.

@tedboggs4569 3 ай бұрын

Why did you give points for larger, heavier wheels which will require more expensive tires on the Forester?

@davidjym 3 ай бұрын

Because bigger is better in America

@alanabcd 3 ай бұрын

I love my outback

@GrappIer 3 ай бұрын

If the Forester had the turbo that would be my choice, without that it's just too slow it felt a bit sluggish trying to pass on highways during road trips.

@alsw3553 2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I have a wonderful 2018 Honda Odyssey that is just too big for my Rottweiler & I. My daughter loves her Crosscheck, but I can’t copy her🤭😅‼️

@leslieviner 29 күн бұрын

Test drove a 2025 Forrester yesterday. The only downside I found was the uncomfortable headrest! As a shorter driver, it hit my head high and forced my head forward. Has anyone had this experience? We could not figure out how to make a necessary adjustment. Is there a remedy to make this more comfortable. It may be this little ‘con’ that discourages me from choosing the Forester. Otherwise, loved this car!

@hrundgren4352 10 күн бұрын

It is supposed to snap back if you pull it forward. There are detents to pull it forward and after the last detent it snaps back into the rearmost position and should be clear of your head. Did you try that?

@sansin6250 2 ай бұрын

Which one will be better as a canyon carver, such as in California?

@pukthewizz 3 ай бұрын

Love the outback xt version swings me away from forester

@sfop1 3 ай бұрын

I followed the link to your web page, but could not find how to get invoice pricing. Can you help?

@Zanderthelab 3 ай бұрын

Why did you say that only the forester had rain sensing wipers?

@CarConfections 3 ай бұрын

As equipped, yes. Touring Outback also has them

@tomdfrog 3 ай бұрын

I always break it down to people...if you want Cargo Room/flexibility...get a Forester. Its taller roof makes easier filling with bulky cargo. If you want people comfort/luxury...get an Outback. I love my Outback XT Touring...but will be taking a hard look at the upcoming Forester Hybrid. With so many miles behind me with the 2.4l turbo, I dread ever going back to the 2.5l. Hoping the hybrid bridges the power gap enough to make the Forester a contender for me.

@garynewcombe910 3 ай бұрын

I much prefer the Forester but it’s crying out for the turbo.

@l... 3 ай бұрын

4:46 SUBARU what’s hard about seat ventilation why in forester but not in OUTBACK

@l... 3 ай бұрын

ARB Automatic Reverse Braking

@DominionAnako-bb7ry 3 ай бұрын

Love your car video 📹 😍

@nchia 3 ай бұрын

Outback facelift grille looks nice, but not so sure with the fogs.

@michaelfredmon4748 3 ай бұрын

The Outback 2.5L engine is loud but when you try it with XT it’s a 2.4L turbocharged engine that’s very quiet and very powerful. Refer to 2020 review by Savage Geese. He complimented the great suspension and quiet XT engine. It’s still the same for 2024/25 but the infotainment has been fixed and some functions returned to knobs underneath it.

@darrellborland119 3 ай бұрын

We have a 2020 Onyx Turbo OB...great driver...ridiculous info system. Question: should the transmission oil be changed? 65K miles...seems to be some controversy. Thanks.

@thomasb.1124 3 ай бұрын

Yes. I have had 2 Outbacks with Cvt and have hand them changed every 60k. Have never had cvt issues.

@movieclipscobrakia9971 3 ай бұрын

How about save cvt secret😊

@davidlogic1440 3 ай бұрын

Yes, the transmission fluid should be changed. I could not get it done at a quick lube place because the transmission is sealed. You will need to take it to the dealer or a transmission specialist.

@darrellborland119 3 ай бұрын

@@davidlogic1440 thanks for the reply concerning transmission. The Dealer wants to do an intake cleaning too...wonder if that is a money wasting scam? Thanks.

@JK-sf3vg 2 ай бұрын

Outback

@adamrenissance3322 2 ай бұрын

I forgot, after all it has been 3.5 years ago. But, I also chose the Subaru over the Chevy Equinox, and the Ford Edge.

@USNAVDC 3 ай бұрын

Remember....there is also a OUTBACK TOURNING model also that is more expensive than the LIMITED. Nice video....both brothers are excellent speakers.

@CarConfections 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@GarlandTexasSpotter2024 3 ай бұрын

Can you do ascent vs Outback please? Also Pilot vs Odyssey???

@Juan_Carlos_2003 3 ай бұрын

Outback!!

@karinad3987 3 ай бұрын

Will there be major changes in the 2025 Outback?

@sumbiz00 2 ай бұрын

Why didn't you compare the Outback Touring to the Forester Touring? Seems you were choosing on price but the Outback Touring has more features than the Forester Touring.

@juanseaforth5111 3 ай бұрын

Excellent comparison. Thank you!!

@CarConfections 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@ryanfrisby7389 3 ай бұрын

Excellent comparison guys!😸😸

@JBLynch 3 ай бұрын

The 2025 Forester looks like a beefier version of the Corolla Cross.

@davidjym 3 ай бұрын

Or the Ford Explorer ...

@JBLynch 3 ай бұрын

@@davidjym I think the Explorer slopes more to the rear, whereas the '25 Forester seems boxier, more like it's going back to it's roots.

@Kjhgr01 3 ай бұрын

I would get the one with the 18.5-gal fuel tank. 🤪

@peterp9148 3 ай бұрын

unfortunately, it is only us spec OB with the 70 L tank (18,5 gal). in europe we get just the regular 63 L tank:(

@Kjhgr01 3 ай бұрын

@@peterp9148 😒

@theamazinggoldfish8713 3 ай бұрын

We want the WRX wagon in 6 speed manual like "Mexico" is getting..... Subaru I would rather buy this than Toyota's GR Corolla hatchback but the choice is up to you.

@magnoliap5824 3 ай бұрын

Wait for the 2025 Outback. They need to update that infotainment and camera. Those engines are loud. 😮

@michaelfredmon4748 3 ай бұрын

The 2024 Outback Touring has the 360 camera. They tested an Outback Limited against a Forester Touring. Don’t know why other than equalizing the price.

@michaelfredmon4748 3 ай бұрын

The Outback non-turbo is loud. The Outback XT turbo is quiet and very powerful

@kubi0461 3 ай бұрын

I prefer the Forester dimensions and more suv like driving position. And it finally has some tech I look for.. ventilated seats, 360 camera, digital rear view mirror option. But only the Outback currently has the reasonable engine option. The base engine just isn’t enough for either vehicle. I just hope they don’t drink oil in between oil changes like my 2013 Outback did almost from day one. Subaru likes to say that’s normal, but it’s never happened in any other brand I’ve owned.

@AntilleanConfederation 3 ай бұрын

Oil consumption has alot to do with proper break in. And quality oil used.

@zydrunasnormaliai6997 3 ай бұрын

Forester

@subiesojourner777 3 ай бұрын

So this is a 2025 Forester and a 2024 Outback? It will interesting to see if the 2025 Outback has a big body style change like Subaru did with the 2024 Forester to the 2025 Forester.

@michaellewis7715 3 ай бұрын

I would like you to talk about phone sound quality both talking and listening. We have two members of our family that have Honda CRV's and both of them have horrible phone connections and a lot of road noise you can hear as they are driving. We also have Toyotas, Nissans, and Kias. None of them have this problem. Also. I would like to see the cup holders in the cars you review. They are a big deal for my family. We travel long distances and need large cups for our beverages. Thanks for your helpful and useful reviews.

@бредлит 3 ай бұрын

Они поменялись местами в ранге?!

@markcolley309 2 ай бұрын

I oreffer my Subaru Forester Touring Edition.

@AntilleanConfederation 3 ай бұрын

OB wilderness 👌🏻

@letzgow6110 3 ай бұрын

It’s looking more and more like a Outback lol

@darriontunstall3708 3 ай бұрын

They both look alright!!!

@samkitty5894 3 ай бұрын

What was the worst car sold in America? Subaru 360 (North American version) (1968-70) The first Subaru model sold in America, the 360 had an MSRP of $1,297 and was marketed with the slogan "Cheap and ugly does it!" The 360 was a commercial failure in North America. They haven't improved much although the price did go up dramatically.