The Camera Industry Has Peaked

[@sidneybakergreen]

What do you think the next big leap in the camera industry will be?

[@Marcus_Visbal]

Pushing dynamic range to 17+ on consumer end cameras instead of a 40k red camera lolol. I think frame rates, resolution, af, and everything is pretty good. Camera manufacturers want to make new bodies with incremental updates that aren’t that amazing and push it hard

[@righthererightnowproductio9525]

I work with Sony's...They could benefit from much better cellphone compatibility/custom apps to facilitate things like hyperlapses, quick sharing, etc. It feels like there's a yawning friction gap between the experience I have filming/editing/sharing with a Blackmagic app on iPhone 15 Pro (shoot, open in capcut, export directly to platforms) and what I have to do with the idiotic Sony workflow (shoot, offload to computer, import to Resolve, export, upload). Their stupid app won't even let me export RAW wirelessly to my phone. Seriously. In 2024.

[@Marcus_Visbal]

@@righthererightnowproductio9525 any professional workflow is going to have you offload to a computer, phones have limited storage and a shoot, even in long top, can take up 100gb easy. If you get atomos connect, it send proxies to the cloud so you could start doing that. Either that keep things limited to the phone I’d say

[@OurVoicesOurLives]

I wholeheartedly agree. I dont feel compelled to upgrade my camera or phone these days.

[@MichaelAres]

This is how I feel with my Z8. The video specs that it has is amazing and unless the video features in the Z8ii are just straight outta this world, I don’t see myself upgrading anytime soon.

[@portersblackboard]

Very good point about cameras and phones have being maxed out for our current needs. Until they find something new that "we don't know we need" there won't be many big changes. And I enjoy that your videos. They are not just tech and tutorial videos but also things that are thought provoking. I don't know what the next big leap in the camera industry will be, but I would love to see WiFi images or videos that I could easily tether to my phone. So if I am shooting wildlife my friend at my side or at home could tap into my shoot and see exactly what I am seeing. Perhaps that already exists, and is above what I can afford.

[@williamm8205]

You have a good point. I haven’t been inspired to buy a new phone since the 14 ProMax and even before then. I also have a 5D MarkIII and R5…Not inspired to change them either…I didn’t even do the canon updates as i just didn’t need it for what i was using the cameras for (stills)….Good Video and thought provoking

[@sidneybakergreen]

Thank you friend! I love the 5D Mark III, I had a hard time adjusting to the R colors

[@DavidGriffin]

This means creativity needs to catch up with the cameras.

[@Marcus_Visbal]

Completely agree with this, firmware updates for the current hardware is all we would need for the next 4-7 years

[@neurojitsu]

I think you're right, although I also think it's hard to predict where the next big innovation will come from. The consumer camera market has changed beyond recognition in the last 20 years, in no small part due to the whole digitisation wave that has affected every industry. I worked for a mobile network when the iPhone was launched, and I can still remember the excitement of watching Steve Jobs present the iPhone at the live launch event online. That phone's touch-screen, with its physical gesture-based user interface, was gobsmacking at the time. What made it possible was a new technology: the touch screen. So the next wave of innovation in cameras will likely come from a not-yet-invented application of new materials science, chip design or some genius engineer's vision that blows everyone's predictions out of the water!

[@FILMS1982]

I'm happy with my red komodo 6k, not the x. I don't need to upgrade anytime soon

[@Trevellian]

Suspect the next revolution isn't likely to be features, but cost. A full frame video camera with excellent low light, low (or no) rolling shutter, high frame rates, fast and accurate auto focus, and video features like shutter angle still costs $3,500 +. About the same as it cost 3 years ago. But yes, most of those who already have a highly capable video camera should be in no rush to buy a newer one.

[@chrisbovance5279]

Spot on! After the Z8/Z9 was released.... everyone went dark... lol #nikon!!!

[@sidneybakergreen]

Look around everybody on mute 😂

[@barrywallisable]

Nikon Z9??? Stacked mirrorless sensors with 8k internal raw recording. And Nikon is constantly improving it with firmware. The next is rumoured to be opengate shooting.

[@sidneybakergreen]

True! But I feel like 8K and Raw is kind of the peak. We are at the point of diminishing returns with anything larger than 8K. But also, the improvements kind of remind me of the S incremental updates. The Z9 was the body I was talking about that made me excited btw 😂.

[@FlingerFilms]

I'd like to see significantly higher low light performance. External recording for the Sony FX3 successor Real sensor dust solution ( I'm very annoyed by other people's projects with sensor dust) Additional smart phone like features in mirrorless cameras.. Sony started doing this where there were apps and abandoned it. The features / capabilities could be many things. I see the next evolution in the gear we use having more intelligence.. And yes... AI

Two words. Global shutter. When that is the norm (which Sony pioneered with F35, F55), then we can settle.

[@sidneybakergreen]

I kind of addressed this though. GS is more of a want than a "need." While it is cool and has it's benefits, it's not making or breaking scenes. Furthermore, on lower end bodies, ie, non dedicated cine cams, you're going to have a lower dynamic range due to the trade offs of using GS mode. Hence why the RED V is getting a lot of hype because of it's 17 stop DR with highlight recovery. Global Shutter is getting a lot of marketing too. Sony's marketing is working. Sony didn't pioneer it though, Contax back in 2002 developed in 2000. That's why Sony has continued to use a lot of qualifiers when mentioning global shutter. That said, i do get your point

[@rossdanielart]

But what revolutionary update do we need so much from cameras? They are doing what they were made to do.Maybe creators have peaked? Now creators just need to up their creativity to do new things and not wait for the gear to update to do something new for them. But good point about the bottleneck nonetheless. No point having 8k for tiktok videos.

[@pedalandypedal]

They’ll figure out a way to incorporate ai chipsets to make things different and could be useful.

[@sidneybakergreen]

I’ve been thinking about the AI portion. Google was using it for that demo too. Good thought

[@portersblackboard]

This AI thing makes me think . . . a built-in AI photography coach/teacher. The camera (connected to cloud) instantly analyzes your photos, and speaks to you in through you Bluethooth ear buds to suggesting ways to improve your shot. You could choose your coach. Kind and patient instructor or maybe a humorously mean coach. I hate the AI will be taking jobs but this would likely be better that a real teacher because very few can afford a ride along coach. Or AI that will see your wedding photography and catch things that might be missed in the moment like lint on a suit or maybe suggest poses and show them to a novice wedding photographer on the back panel of their camera.@@sidneybakergreen

[@z352kdaf8324]

Sony leading the way for 2 years.

[@pedalandypedal]

@@sidneybakergreen OM systems has been doing cool stuff under the radar for a few years now.

[@pedalandypedal]

@@z352kdaf8324 how?