Siege Attack Layering SIMPLIFIED!

[@reetbhiopgamer9907]

Thanks a lot Aka, for fulfilling my request, i really appreciate it

[@RedEvony]

No problem. Glad to help 😊🙏

[@johnshaw6702]

I don't know why but I enjoy your videos so much. You give good information, but i think it's your delivery that does the trick. And a pleasant voice helps. Thanks for the information. I have information on the other march types, but i'm still not confident about my siege preset.

[@jideodude]

I like how you link related videos... Appreciate your work AKA 🙌🙌

[@callmeJoel007]

Can you make the same attack layering video for Archers and Cavs?

[@murat-alisarsenbayev542]

Great. Thanks. Could you also recommend archer attack layers actual for 2024?

[@johnnie5793]

Thank you Aka. Could you make the same kind of video for other modern attack marches?

[@lisah6799]

Thanks for making this video

[@RedEvony]

Glad to help ☺👍

[@murat-alisarsenbayev542]

Aka-san, thanks. 1) why 10,000 layer needed? What if using 1,000 layer? What layer is recommended if the total march size is just 2 mln? 2) why to use Small and Big siege; why not using only Big siege?

[@Koldheart5]

Thanks aka also do all marches ground, mounted and range to

[@RedEvony]

I did for those a long time ago 😄

[@drouleau]

For big siege, a player from another server in SVS who's been playing for like 15 years before Evony was "Evony", gave me the following troop sizes (I use 100 troop layers): T14 - 400k T13 - Everything you have left T12 - 500k T11 - 100k

[@shanebeightol8280]

Proven?

[@drouleau]

@@shanebeightol8280 Seems to work if you need big siege. Small siege, then I do like 500k T13's and then bump up either my T11's or T12's.

[@katrinatinker8250]

As usual, good information

[@theluckyjuan4571]

Aka Idol hope you can do some recomendation on civ gears combination on your next video more power to you and god bless

[@RedEvony]

I’ll take note of that 👌 And thank you very much 😊🙏

[@EvonyTipsTricks]

😊 Awesome video my friend ! This is awesome ! I haven't come to a point where I might start with siege. I think I have the siege needed to create the small siege. I repost your video at my Discord. 👍 * my presets are low but I mostly use my PvP march so i might build both small and big siege. // Best Regards, Patrick

[@RedEvony]

Thank you very much 🙏 Don’t worry, there is no rush to get ready for siege. When you get to that point, you can set it up 😇

[@richardsutton296]

Thank you for this...I am still learning..can you tell me when you would use these as a solo player...my alliance is a lot smaller than me

[@aurora1701e]

“For those of us peasants”…. lol. Great video as always

[@RedEvony]

😂😂 It's true though 😂😂 Thank you 😊🙏

[@savethehumans7460]

Thanks for the share Aka007.

[@RedEvony]

Glad to help as always 😊👍

[@kevinwells4986]

Thank you as always for the help. I am Siege heavy, and like many I have lot of siege generals to work with. I like Mikhail because I have enough ranged as well, and he can lead both. Pallas is still my first choice, and she has her first red star now. Harder to get copies of Mihai though as well as Pallas. So my question is totally different:... what do you know about this new Frigg'n General Frigg? I had a lot of general tokens and such to trade in and open. I did it 9 times, and during her event... I got her 7 out of 9 times. So now I guess I must develop her. I hope you will release something on her when you can,. Thanks Akka

[@RedEvony]

Video will be up tomorrow 😉👍

[@kevinwells4986]

@@RedEvony thanks. I will watch it now. I've done nothing with her so far.

[@kadariahmede1745]

مرحبا انا احمد جزاءري من خادم 422 عندي سؤالين لك :1 ا ايس من مفروض في مسيرة حصار ان يكون t11 اكثر عددا من t12و t13و t14 2 :ل ماذا نحن ب حاجة الى مسيرة صغيرة و اخرى كبيرة و شكرا لك😊

[@coleyboone2315]

What do we do if we dont have t14s yet just adjust the numbers down to include t10s

[@RedEvony]

Honestly, if you don't have T14s, then I don't think you are quite ready for siege attacks just yet 😇 With that being said, if you still wanted to do it, just follow the same procedure as shown in the video for big siege and small siege, and just omit the part for T14s 👌 Also be sure to fill up your march as best you can.

[@coleyboone2315]

Got it thank you, I was prioritizing other stuff but ill move it up on my list the building already at 34 and I got alot of stone

[@anandarajperiyasamy9077]

Can you please explain exactly how to flat refine equipments for mounted defence..

[@Max-od3hy]

There are a lot of videos for that :D

[@TheNino121]

aka can you do video of new ground general and who can her assistan..this general frigg?thanks

[@helenab3877]

Oops. I've only got all troops as t13. I got rid of anything smaller.

[@AchillesWrath1]

What is a siege attack good for? I tried doing a straight siege attack in BOG and i killed all of their siege and archers but their ground killed all of my siege. That i don't understand. But i didn't layer properly either. I had all siege layers and no layers of anything else. I basically just used a setup for general farming a sub. Will siege kill ground if i had layered properly? Great videos thanks

[@RedEvony]

Thanks 😊🙏 Siege is basically used for killing the enemy's siege. For keeps that are starting to get too big to solo (3B and above), siege causes significant damage when defending, so it is better to take out or reduce the defender's siege first before proceeding to attack the rest of the troops. Also, you shouldn't do siege solos, even with properly layering, unless you have a significant advantage in buffs. Siege attacks are mostly done in rallies 👌

[@AchillesWrath1]

@@RedEvony So it's probably best at my level 34, to keep most of my siege at home to defend. What about when i take one of the buildings or reinforce in BOG or BOC. Will siege act the same way as it does in my keep and be strong at defending or or reinforcing teammates?

[@dunerino892]

Thx aka! interesting for me would also be how siege also works vs other troop types (does it make a difference if attacking ground, ranged or mounted and how important is siege for defence?) thx

[@RedEvony]

When using siege to attack, the main thing is that siege will kill siege. However, if the defender has little siege remaining, then the attacking siege will also kill archers. When it comes to defending with siege, siege is susceptible to ground and mounted attacks. However, if the defending keep still has significant troops, it is very likely that those ground and cavs won't even reach the siege. That is why it is necessary to first weaken the defender's troops. This is not so important for smaller keeps, but it becomes a lot more important when taking down bigger keeps. How you deal with the siege they have becomes a significant factor 👌

[@henrysmith2765]

Sending siege against ground or cav is just throwing it away…..it kills siege, but once it gets through siege, it will go after archers. This is big siege though. Siege is your first line of defense. It reacts differently by tier though. T14 is defense! When attacking, you use 15% of t14, 10% of 12 and 11, and use mostly 13 to attack. Troops die from the top so 14 is there to provide a protective layer to your 13s. A small siege march is 1k layers, maybe 5-10% t12, everything else is t11

[@faust3904]

​@@henrysmith2765This is very interesting, but if I only have up to T13 does that mean I have no protective layer? In other words, I was going to just do what this video suggests only moving everything down one tier. But now you have me thinking that it doesn't work that way.

[@operaly9894]

C'est génial 🎉 merci beaucoup

[@RedEvony]

Glad to help as always 😊👍

[@DanielGibbons-v9k]

So, what do you accomplish with small siege, other than getting your t11 siege killed? I've never seen this work.

[@CrazyLady175]

Small Seige works amazing on enemy starting around 10B...take a look at boc videos of the bigger alliance's

[@DanielGibbons-v9k]

@@CrazyLady175 Never seen it work. It sounds like you're describing a situation where there is a huge buff/debuff disparity.

[@Sid_2007]

@@DanielGibbons-v9k Small seige isnt designed to gain huge points. Its used to wipe out the lower layers and open the door for large seige which in turn will lead to your traditional attack methods being more effective

[@dianapatel8905]

What civilisation equipment to use in battle an PVP

[@kco1981]

But considering that t15 have a higher range, isn't it better to use more t15, since it can attack from far away? And the same problem would apply to attack a big t15 siege keep with t11, no?

[@DanielGibbons-v9k]

Range is 2178 for T13, T14 and T15. T15 speed is one higher.

[@crazystuff6944]

Aka does small siege generals require flat refines on them & Big siege requires% refines. Does it makes difference?

[@ivanr.1005]

Thank you Aka, I had great time watching you but now is time to move on from evony. Wish all of you luck in this very bad game.

[@SM43645]

If you do have a pair of gens for a separate small seige whats better flat or % refines?

[@MDuke93]

For attack,, it's always%

[@RoyalCity352]

10k layers with 2.5m march size is crazy. That works with k42 march size

[@drouleau]

My siege march is my smallest march, and is just over 2.6M at k39. My ranged is nearly 2.9M without any march size buffs. K42 has a much bigger march size lol.

[@bpreston7275]

How do I get de buffs

[@CuentaSecundaria-h5t]

Gracias me será de ayuda ,nunca hice pvp y tengo un k 33 ,veré qué puedo hacer ,soy mujer y me apasiona Evony

[@CuentaSecundaria-h5t]

Y nueva supcritora

[@RedEvony]

That’s nice ☺️☺️ There is a lot to enjoy when you do PvP in the game. There’s also a lot of frustration as well, so prepare yourself for that 😇 If you are K33, I think your biggest priority if you want to do PvP is to set up your attacking march for ranged/archers and also start crafting achaemenidae gear in your forge for defense and sub generals 👌

[@Fabian-y9y]

and what if i don't have t14?

[@RedEvony]

Then do small siege or don't do siege at all, if you are not ready 👌

[@Fabian-y9y]

@@RedEvony okay thank you

[@EXOKABEER]

Aka make a video ares mean from where we can get them

[@EXOKABEER]

mean their sources

[@RedEvony]

If you mean ares gear, I have already made a series of videos on that. Check the channel for "Ares vs Achaemenidae" playlist. You will find all the videos there 😉👍

[@EXOKABEER]

@@RedEvony brother i understand your words but i ask that ares that used to ascend the general

[@siharhasibuan7807]

niceee.. thanks AKA

[@phelliprd6659]

👍

[@redpill....]

hi Aka . Thought you would say it's Hammer Time🤔 😂

[@RedEvony]

Funny thing, I actually thought about doing that 🤣🤣🤣

[@redpill....]

@@RedEvony 😂 something tells me that would have been an appropriate time Bro. great topic Aka .much appreciated ❤️

[@IRNeuuub]

i have to admit I am a bit confused. i thought big siege is supposed to hit first to clear the defenders siege units. Aka, you say thats the job for tier 11 siege? Can you elaborate a bit? Im xoming slowly to the point I would like to start working on a siege march, also got Gunther and Melisande from last event 👍

[@Sid_2007]

T11 seige are low cost and high impact. They will help remove all the t12 and lower seige levels. This way when you attack with a big seige rally, you have more of an impact to wipe out the enemies large seige without the hindrence of the lower layers.. Also once the enemy seige is killed, seige will then target high range troops. Once you wipe both these layers out, the enemy is pretty much defenceless. Even a T1 wall then becomes point heaven.

[@IRNeuuub]

@@Sid_2007 Thanks for very indepth reply! So for a player just starting to train siege units, it would be better if I concentrate on small siege march first? I started doing t13s, but will now reconsider and probably go to T11. That would also help with army costs 😜. Gunther is already sporting civ bracers to help him with range 😇

[@ruckus1314]

​@@Sid_2007i know the convention is separate big and little siege marches, but what about combination? The big castles on my server do, for example: 500k t14/1M t13/500k t12 then the rest is t11... I ask because it has proven effective for us, but would value an outside perspective

[@Sid_2007]

@@ruckus1314 Its an interesting point on mixed rallies. It is a good strategy if you are attacking a player that does not have significant high seige. In which case there is no requirement to oversend the number of troops as this will result in larger power loss with nothing more in return. Ie during the last Chalons, i received a 3b t13 seige rally whereby i only had about 10m t12 and t13 seige left. This resulted in only a 500m powerloss for me vs their 3b. Remember Seige is a sacrifice attack so with that in mind it is all about the potency of your attack to maximise your result. ie Risk vs Return Typically if you rally a large player, sending the relevant troop improves the impact of your attack as they will normally have significant high levels of the relevant seige you will target. Therefore though mixed will still work, it will not be as affective as they will weaken the offensive lines. The other point to mention is the buffs. Both t11 and t13 seige work best with percentage refines, UNLESS the defending player is able to fully debuff you, in which case t11 work better with flat refines. This is why we seperate the two. Sending mixed rallies with a general with flats will weaken the t13s and on the opposite side, if we send t11s with percentages against a player that can fully debuff our attack, it will weaken the t11. Its all about choosing which variation works most effective for what you want to do. Finally, i will also mention. Though Aka has said to increase troop layers on seige, remember it is all about risk vs return. There is a reason most players when sending t13s, ONLY send t13s with 1k layers. It is the cheapest seige to send to wipe high seige. Sending additional higher layers, though will compliment the t13s, will only increase the risk on powerloss. Also to mention, t14s are garbage unless they are complimented by t15s and vice versa. Food for thought.

[@analjyotidas9504]

Aka i need to show you my report. How? I was zeroed by k39. I am k 35

[@littlefinkle7757]

Buffs

[@sporteeee]

buffs + debuffs + what troops you have.+ what troops they sent.

[@DSN0W39]

You have 10k in your layers? Instead of 1 or 2 thousand?

[@RedEvony]

Yes, that's what I decided to go with.👍 As I mentioned in the video, you are free to choose any number you want - 500, 1,000, 10,000, whatever you like. Just make sure that, as shown in Step 1, you fill out all your layers with that number 👌

[@bhaskar87saha]

thanks man :)

[@RedEvony]

Glad to help 😊👍

[@MrYours]

Wait aka! I need siege?!?

[@RedEvony]

Apparently so bro 😂👌

[@cakie_0933]

It's not tea time 😪😪😪

[@RedEvony]

Unfortunately not 😅

[@itzsaintazmo]

aka never disapoint

[@RedEvony]

😉👍

[@ZeroZephyrz]

Sorry Aka... but your big siege set up is not correct. You should be prioritizing T13 @ 50-60%, T14 should not be the majority holder.

[@RedEvony]

In the big siege set up showed in the video, if you followed it to the end, T13 IS the biggest tier, not T14 👌 I used several references when making this video, including references from several players and my own reports. That’s why I suggested a majority of 40%. You might think that it should be more like 50-60%, and that’s perfectly fine, but that is more about March optimization. That doesn’t mean that the set up in the video is not correct. It’s what I use and it works. Also, 2:02 - 2:28, I made that statement clearly in the video. Can’t say I didn’t say it 😉😇

[@Max-od3hy]

There are multiple ways of doing big siege

[@Vemonspogbob]

IM BACK wassup man

[@legion2440]

If you have t15 and can't use siege, quit evony, bruh

[@LeoNidaz-jp2yz]

Aka please help our server 1073... After merge with 1077 everything going crazy, there is someone from 1077 use BOT for killing bosses, nonstop killing bosses all time nontsop, and nothing remain for other alliance,,, please helo us Maybe you can contact evony and make some report about it, the players name is captain essen from aliance YSL server 1073+1077,,, You can visit our server to make sure Big thanks for you brother 👍

[@littlefinkle7757]

You mail customer support also from in the game. I suggest trying to talk to the player first tho.

[@Elginecologoracing]

o.O battlefield finish first than u setup XDXDXDXDXD

[@RedEvony]

You could also set up inside battlefield, just be careful not to get killed while doing it 😅😂

[@TVYroc]

No no no haha your joke at the beginning boo on you

[@leeamessage]

Siege is still very weak when going against any defense from what I've seen. Its a last resort if you are out of regular troops. Its great against weak player and against sub cities.

[@littlefinkle7757]

Seige buffs need to exceed 24-2500% to see any positive effects on a decent keep.

[@kennethforeman1400]

T-11 lock on to t-4 so it's important to make many t4, it's the equivalent to t-1 meat wall 🧱