Siemens GTO-VVVF | C651 vs C321 (Singapore MRT vs Taipei Metro)

Comparison between Singapore MRT's C651 and Taipei Metro's C321 Siemens GTO VVVF.
The C651 was the basis for the Taipei Metro C321 built from 1998 to 1999 and 2003 respectively for the Taipei Metro Bannan Line.
C321 photo: By The original uploader was 台灣少年 at Chinese Wikipedia. - Own work by the original uploader, CC BY-SA 3.0, commons.wikime...
C651 photo: By CTB990 - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, commons.wikime...

[@dereksg7510]

Startup/Acceleration sounds nicer on Taipei C321 while stopping/braking sounds better on Singapore C651. It's hard to beat Singapore C651 motor's slowdown sound with that perfect blend of high pitch melodies with low pitch background sound of the motor winding down at the end.

[@pressntopass60]

Siemens really make some good traction motors

[@stephenpopo]

C321聲音太好聽了哈哈哈（很極速飛過的感覺） 不過台北捷運好像要更新了嗚嗚⋯⋯ 撇開安全性問題，真的不希望C321聲音變了啊啊啊

[@stephenpopo]

@丞哥的交通生活日誌Chengge's Traffic Daily 小小心願是讓C321能回歸淡水線再奔馳一天，讓它的粉絲可以好好記錄一下哈哈哈哈，但應該不可能了（吧

[@you-train-fans8888]

@@stephenpopo絕對不可能 321已經被禁止商業運轉在紅線了

[@g-Elevators675]

C651 sounds great on both the slowdown and the startup. C321 sounds great on just the startup. For some reason, the slowdown is blocked by wind noise, especially noticeable in the first clip.

[@lamborghinilamborghini8823]

For me, I will prefer C651 because of the white paint , C321 I love the motor equally as the C651

[@awakenfunchannel9228]

Me to

[@LaxMarch2022]

The white paint is old livery

[@TheSearleFamily123]

Well I'm from Sydney, and none of our trains use Siemens GTO-VVVF nor Siemens IGBT-VVVF. I remember when I was travelling on a Tangara T-set train once, which uses Mitsubishi GTO chopper like the SMRT C151, I attempted to hum along the C651 traction sound, because as Sydney uses DC 1.5kV from overhead catenary instead of DC 750V from third rail like Singapore, the Tangara is a low-pitched version of the C151.

[@spdfatomicstructure]

Actually, Singapore does have one line that uses 1.5kV DC overhead. The North-East Line, run by Singapore Bus Services with Alstom Metropolis C751A and C751C trains

[@TheSearleFamily123]

@@spdfatomicstructure Yes, you're right. Singapore only has one line to use DC 1.5kV from overhead catenary, which is the SBS Transit North East MRT line.

[@張凱華-u5j]

感覺北捷的C321比較好聽!

[@張凱華-u5j]

@@weallLovescrrobloxgameplay1507 That's ok.But I take C321 everyday,so I like it.Everyone can choose what's you like,right?

[@趙羿豪]

@@weallLovescrrobloxgameplay1507 is alk good

[@趙羿豪]

Dont fight

[@hangamerx579]

@@weallLovescrrobloxgameplay1507 ⁿᶦᶜᵉ

[@williamhsu5152]

C321節奏好聽

[@LeoYu-ot8kn]

Slow down C651 Accelerate C321 台北捷運和新加坡地鐵造型還有點像 新加坡地鐵外觀比較經典 台北捷運外觀比較金屬

[@klng288]

剛進站的時候很像C301的聲音

[@hangamerx579]

不一樣吧。。。

[@notblue_]

When the I went to the Taipei Metro, I realised the C651 and the C321 has kind of the same motor 😅

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

Yeah

[@CupcakkeTheQueen]

They're from the same company, Siemens

[@uenoe2332]

I think taipei metro is better for me☺☺

[@hangamerx579]

@@weallLovescrrobloxgameplay1507 Smrt Trains Sound dosent really good....

[@idk-jv9zq]

Wdym smrt is bad its so cool

[@36_snaps]

@@idk-jv9zq yeah

[@ShippoHsu]

@@weallLovescrrobloxgameplay1507 respect opinions

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

@@idk-jv9zqI agree

[@36_snaps]

For the body I will go with c321 but for the sounds I will go with the c651

[@lamborghinilamborghini8823]

For me I will prefer C651 because of the white paint

[@jacobdiaries2803]

I prefer C651

[@SGrailadventure2004]

C651 is still for me, because of the livery.

[@Lila_san03]

Nice Video!👍

[@pressntopass60]

thanks :)

[@陈劲恺]

Nice! But this won't ever beat the Keikyu N1000. It has the legendary musical motor. Sadly, all have been refurbished with IGBT-VVVF. However, if I would choose which is better, I would like the C321's body and the C651's paint scheme. For the sounds, how I wished Singapore's C651 has the musical inverter......

[@SGrailadventure2004]

I also wish C651 would sound like the KHI especially when the train moves slowly.

[@R162A-1-train]

Nah, R160 Siemens beats all these in my opinion

[@LuciusHesperius]

Both are good, but the c321 deceleration clips don’t do it justice. The best sounds are not captured by the mic (blocked by the wind noise)

[@pressntopass60]

I had quite a shit phone then, sorry about that

[@LuciusHesperius]

@@pressntopass60 Np, it’s still a good comparison vid

[@SGTransportCam]

C651 is the most melodious

[@mrsérie2000fasesIeII]

There is actually 2 familiar sounding trains at Brazil. The first one is the 3000 Series, It uses Siemens GTO motor, And its famous “violin-sound” is even better, Sadly, It's immobilized and will later be scrapped depending on the strategies. There is also another one called the 2000 series (The train on my profile picture), Which uses GTO and IGBT, inwhich in the GTO version, It uses high-to-low power. And in the IGBT, It uses low-to-high power, The starting of both version's motors are the same. Fun Fact: 2000 Series is not from Siemens, It was fabricated from CAF, ADTranz and Alstom between 1998 and 1999, Which debuted in 2000 on the known “Expresso Leste” (East Express). Its motor is an induction motor, And originally, Was used the IGBT motor, It has a total of 15 sets, 9 are operational in July 2024. The other 6 are being dismantled.

[@HuyHuy064]

What is the C651 set?

[@rocabe1121]

🇸🇬新加坡地鐵C651VS🇹🇼台北捷運板南線C321，兩列列車的進站與離站聲很像

[@sutrblx5546]

Who's here after the entire fleet of c651 got scrapped? Well thr c321 is the only way to hear the legendary motor sound the c651 once made

[@JonathanChan212]

好像京急新1000 Siemens GTO好些

[@iplaygeometrydashforreal]

0:23 C651 Engine 1:19 C321 Engine

[@kerminwan]

C321 sounds a little bit similar to C651

[@kerminwan]

Yeah siemens

[@SGrailadventure2004]

C651 is always the best.

[@kerminwan]

Indeed

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

I agree

[@specialrapidexpress7040s]

更新前の京急2100形と新1000形初期車に似てますね、同じドレミファインバーターなので

[@lowsimlim9299]

How C651 and C321 sounds are different: C651 has PWM C321 has 2 Level! (Very clear if u listen carefully to the sounds)

[@MP11931]

Kinda sounds like the MTA R160 Siemens for both trains, but in a high and low pitch.

[@pressntopass60]

yup siemens makes some epic sounding propulsion motors, always an absolute delight to hear it 👍

[@jacobdiaries2803]

R179 Lemon 🍋🤔

[@MP11931]

yes. lemon

[@倫神奎]

C561 dont have a longer sounds

[@berzerk7338]

Singapore is better than taipei? I don't know which one is better?

[@pressntopass60]

choose one :)

[@berzerk7338]

I think is Singapore becuase i was playing a game :/

[@loochewhui2920]

Even I watch and see more Singapore train than Taipei mrt

[@loochewhui2920]

I think smrt

[@SGrailadventure2004]

Singapore, because of its meledic motor.

[@SevenBull]

The sound about the same but abit different in terms of braking & accelerating for Taipei train

[@EthanGaming_YT]

Meloetta's rep: Every single train with Siemens GTO

[@OodXboO]

修但幾勒 北捷影片那個畫質是在哈囉

[@TheTaiwan100]

復古感都出來了

[@dwaynejohnual1286]

c651 train is like favorite than i was toddler in singapore

[@pressntopass60]

you like the looks or the sound?

[@dwaynejohnual1286]

yes i love c651 is ways better me than underground london with jubilee line i just intrest the underground

[@albertlin9754]

2:09 鋼輪失圓！！！

[@you-train-fans8888]

嗯 失圓的非常嚴重

[@kdkeindowkings3194]

1:18 why is the screen errape LOL

[@TaiwaneseBaller50]

the graphic tell us it's fucking old lol

[@mr.m-train0608]

1:38 ZhongXiao-Fuxing Station 1:58 Taipei Main Station

[@you-train-fans8888]

1:43 就是台北車站了

[@jacobdiaries2803]

Please do C151A Vs NYC - R179

[@pressntopass60]

never been to NYC before haha

[@wahidasultana2536]

C651

[@BaySean]

Why beginning of video with sparks?

[@pressntopass60]

wait what sparks?

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

Think the singapore one is better

[@loochewhui2920]

我最喜欢是C651我爱C651

[@hangamerx579]

platform doors 🙄

[@A321-real]

“I would like the C651”

[@iplaygeometrydashforreal]

C321 aircon sounds like an MTA one

[@sylviachen1838]

C321：我要換變頻器了所以以後不能跟你當兄弟了c651:不要啊😢

[@jaydenfansadventures2075]

C151 and Taipei bannan line look like the same

[@pressntopass60]

Taipei's trains are designed after Singapore's C151 trains

[@jaydenfansadventures2075]

@@pressntopass60 oh ok

[@jiatinglim5508]

@@pressntopass60 except C381

[@ChengEn_metrofans]

怎麼故意把台北捷運錄得這麼模糊，來看我的c321行使淡水信義線就知道它好在哪裡了 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipvWopypgtuHZ7s

[@BaySean]

90s train on Airport Branch Line right?

[@pressntopass60]

Yup, very classic train, haven't refurbish yet. You still can catch 'em today on East West line.

[@lamborghinilamborghini8823]

@@pressntopass60 yeah NSL very rare

[@lamborghinilamborghini8823]

@@pressntopass60 but I was lucky to take 207/208 on NSL yesterday

[@dwaynejohnual1286]

c651 singaporean train is ways better than i was a toddler father come to follow to station to pick c651

[@pressntopass60]

yup, and it sounds awesome too!

[@axolotl711]

Yea smrt was my childhood

[@rukomase8682]

When I was young I like to mimick the sound of a c651 train 😂

[@TRANSLASLionsCityMovia]

I prefer C651

[@pressntopass60]

Lol

[@loochewhui2920]

I prefer it too

[@jacobdiaries2803]

I prefer the C651 For Nice Motor And The C321 Sounds Like a R160 Siemens

[@loochewhui2920]

The C651 is the best and there were 4 half triangles at the platform doors

[@divinggamer2875]

Do you really Saw that the problem is what is better not the Platform doors DUH 🙄 Nerd

[@pressntopass60]

relax lol

[@divinggamer2875]

@@pressntopass60 yeah right

[@EthanGaming_YT]

C651 is Mew and C321 is Mewtwo

[@pressntopass60]

nani

[@dontknowi467]

都很好啊 其實是我看不出差別

[@loochewhui2920]

C651 brake is better than Taipei mrt

[@loochewhui2920]

Eh next one C151 vs C341

[@hangamerx579]

C341 is same as C321, just a little faster

[@私気に成ります]

C321 is so close to singing. Just needs to step down unsynced mode frequency... Like 7 times lol

[@TransportFan2010]

C651 is better I HATE C321 tapei metro

[@ChengEn_metrofans]

I HATE you

[@TransportFan2010]

C651 have a better motor a good door closing announcement and the seats are perfect. C321 SUCKS

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

@@TransportFan2010 in terms of motor and doors closing I agree. C651 is way better

[@loochewhui2920]

Next one C301 vs C151

[@EthanGaming_YT]

C301 BOMBARDIER MITRAC, C151 MITSUBISHI GTO CHOPPER

[@loochewhui2920]

Singapura is in Malay voice

[@jacobdiaries2803]

The C321 Sounds More Like The R160 Siemens

[@axolotl711]

I prefer Singapore MRT as it is more safe and good quality, and Singapore is making more MRT lines.

[@hangamerx579]

Would You care about accidents

[@axolotl711]

@@hangamerx579 so your basically looking down on Singapore do u hate your life or something?

[@hangamerx579]

@@axolotl711 I do not care who wins actually.

[@axolotl711]

@@hangamerx579 you clearly do

[@hangamerx579]

@@axolotl711 lol

[@loochewhui2920]

Come on C651 you could win

[@ChoboUnjeon]

the C651 sounds just like DTRO Series 1000

[@pressntopass60]

Where's the train from?

[@adrianfrederick3987]

C651 is sounding like copahangen train

[@mr.m-train0608]

2:24 Ximen Station

[@loochewhui2920]

What is Siemens

[@SGTransportCam]

A company which builds trains

[@muhammadlutfisalamon2538]

I Singapore Mrt Is Better For Me😀😀

[@JoanRegacho]

Singapore MRT is the best

[@PreciousAlpschindler]

Next is C341 vs BTS Skytrain EMU A1

[@pressntopass60]

no promises!

[@PreciousAlpschindler]

@@pressntopass60 They have similar sound just sayin

[@EthanGaming_YT]

PMSM C151 vs C341?

[@jiatinglim5508]

Thought C341 was also Siemens.

[@EthanGaming_YT]

@@jiatinglim5508 Noted this from a comment saying refurbished C651s have similar motor sound to C341. As the refurbished C651s use PMSM as same as C151, I took down this fact

[@mike-mx7kn]

I prefer c651 because it's faster

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

I agree

[@Konata]

Same as C321

[@qw9179]

和香港的 sp1900差不多

[@brayanbarreramtaproductions]

R160 Siemens On The NYC Is Better

[@huaguo609]

sounds like a R160B

[@pressntopass60]

the startup sounds pretty alike

[@huaguo609]

ok

[@loochewhui2920]

Sg trains and lrt are better than yours

[@loochewhui2920]

C651 improve your self

[@lamborghinilamborghini8823]

C651 is good enough, I love that train so much

[@SGDPRODUCTIONS-jf1uq]

台北的地铁很好

[@pressntopass60]

got to type in traditional chinese so it's more legit :) anyways hi there from 5999Z on 5 April

[@SGDPRODUCTIONS-jf1uq]

@@pressntopass60 yes hi I saw you

[@SGDPRODUCTIONS-jf1uq]

@@pressntopass60 my phone has no such feature

[@mr.m-train0608]

I prefer C321

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

No

[@rocabe1121]

#台北捷運板南線

[@loochewhui2920]

C651 is better than yours

[@hangamerx579]

platform doors 🙄

[@jacobdiaries2803]

@@hangamerx579 Your System Also Have Platform Doors And We Have 7 Lines In Singapore 🇸🇬

[@you-train-fans8888]

我覺得c321比較好聽

[@陳彥勳-t3x]

C321很快

[@williamhsu5152]

台北捷運加油！

[@loochewhui2920]

C651 slowdown is better

[@pressntopass60]

erm okay... no need to spam the comments for your love of C651 :)

[@jacobdiaries2803]

How about C151B Vs R160B

[@loochewhui2920]

Start up from C651 is better than C321 it will beat Taipei Mrt

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

yes

[@botaklick_133]

c61 better

[@muhammadlutfisalamon2538]

I Think Singapore Mrt Is Better For Me😀😀😀😀😀

[@loochewhui2920]

Good I like Singapore

[@jacobdiaries2803]

@@loochewhui2920 SAME

[@Sg.Transportation.person]

Wa twins have met 😂

[@loochewhui2920]

I’m a singaporean so I pick C651

[@marcuslin2363]

tqipei metro but bad=singapore

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

Nahhhh Taipei metro sucks

[@陳彥勳-t3x]

C651 can eat and messy C321 do not eat and or not mess

[@hangamerx579]

agreed

[@pressntopass60]

nani

[@hangamerx579]

@@pressntopass60 inan? 愛男 XDDED

[@Linda-ub9lk]

ㄨ

[@hidahrahmat4270]

I think the singapore train is good for me

[@陳彥勳-t3x]

C651 is bad C321 is good

[@pressntopass60]

not that bad lah...

[@jaydenfansadventures2075]

@@pressntopass60 , yep

[@HuyHuy064]

Both are good

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

Really disrespectful. Singapore trains have a more futuristic announcements than Taipei metro system. And also Singapore mrt makes me listen to it more. In my opinion c651 is better

[@mr.m-train0608]

I prefer C321

[@OwenzzzzMovies]

Taipei metro trains doesn’t sound really good