SIG 556 Collecting tip for first time purchaser.

[@micahyoung3611]

Thanks again for putting out great information your channel has become one of my number one sources

[@psp1921tsmg]

Thank you

[@davidhilty8612]

That was great information shared. I own a Gen 2 lower. The pre-fix on my upper (from memory) starts with “JT”. I’ve always liked the Gen 3 lowers the best.

[@Rubber.Duck_Actual]

Thanks for the video. My local store has a 556 patrol on the used rack for $1600, and I was looking for this information

[@LUVDOGS1954]

Holy cow...what a great informative video...thank you!

[@gregmcdonald3361]

Wait there's ALOT I didn't know abt these Sigs. I love them...I have several.

[@dmann8166]

I really enjoy your videos man. Great job.

[@psp1921tsmg]

Thanks

[@bobbywright6354]

man i love the sig556. a local gun shop had 8 police trade ins of the 556 patrol with the gen 3 stock and short handguard for 1200 a piece. i wish to god i woulda bought one cuz the were gone in 30 days

[@nateserpico2886]

Early JS serial number 556 (like under 4k serial number) had some Swiss internals, then changed to US made internals, but overall the quality of the US parts are just as good, but collectors pay more for these. The JS serial numbers under I think 13K are very good, reliable guns, they have the two thin ribs on the lower vs the one thick vs thin on the later built guns JT's. If you have one of the JS guns you have a nice 556. The 556r's you want one of the 28c's and up Second Gen's which fixed alot of the problems of the early models. So on 556's early is better, 556r's...2nd Gen is better.

[@alantaylor9593]

Damn, my SIG 556 SWAT rifle serial number is JS 01500x. And my sweet little factory made Sig 556 10" SWAT pistol serial number starts off with 44A.... hmm so why's that? I thought all Sig 556 variants started off with two letter?

[@nateserpico2886]

@@alantaylor9593 44A came later they should be still be fine in most cases. Does yours have sloppy welds on front of the receiver?

[@alantaylor9593]

@@nateserpico2886 wow thanks for the information. My 44A 556 pistol has very clean upper and lower receiver... and she looks nearly as good as my "JS" 556 does. She shoots very good too with no problem with various mags & ammunition.

[@alantaylor9593]

One more question: was the 10" SWAT 556XI in 7.62x39 a good weapon? I'm thinking about buying one. 🤔

[@nateserpico2886]

@@alantaylor9593 I'd pass. They don't resale well if you need to sell, collectors aren't buying them, the early 556 swats are very nice.

[@williamhedrick7983]

I shoot my 553 with no tape… that being said it is an SBR and I will not part with it so bring on the brass kisses! Nice video and good info.

[@dmann8166]

Yes I agree, it looks cool.

[@aviewaskew706]

Gifted one and it’s amazing. Not a fan of the fore grip. Or the weight but damn it’s a shooter for,sure. Thanks for the info. N

[@me2ontube]

thank you sir - i certainly had no idea

[@bradwiebelhaus7065]

Good information.

[@grubbysackenhaus4109]

Enjoyed your video and subscribed! One question that I want to confirm, If your lower has the Screw instead of a take down pin, it is a Gen1? Thanks!

[@psp1921tsmg]

Yes the screw usually means gen 1. I’m sure there are exceptions but that’s pretty much the rule. I have 4 556s and the gen one is the only lower with a screw

[@grubbysackenhaus4109]

Awesome, Thanks!

[@Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

I'm still sore that Sigarms botched the US made version back in 2006-07. They could have sold truckloads of them if they wouldn't have fuglied them up so bad.

[@psp1921tsmg]

I think they should have just copied the 551 with a 16 inch barrel or the 550.

[@fredboat]

I read from a reasonable source that Sig thought they were going to sell a shit load of rifles to the US govt. The deal never happened as far as I know. Thanks.

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@fredboat and now they got the contract for pistols and machine guns for the army.

[@Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

@@psp1921tsmg Exactly! It's a shame they didn't import the Swiss guns and outfit them with the required US parts instead of building the Tapco AR-15 abomination they ended up peddling.

[@dmann8166]

How did they "botch" it?

[@JackalX111]

God, wish I could get a set of iron sights for my 556r.

[@psp1921tsmg]

Sig sold sight sets. Watch gun broker I see a set every couple months. They are not cheap

[@christopherward2033]

I am inheriting a Sig 556, is there any parts still out there available for this rifle?

[@psp1921tsmg]

Very few you just have to search. Depending on model so Swiss parts will fit

[@jimboschmobo2866]

Paid 1400 for a gently used JS. Quad rail front end with rubber covers. Factory case and 2 Sig Factory 30 round mags. Made in Nov of 2009. Love the gun.

[@psp1921tsmg]

Nice. 👍

[@gregmcdonald3361]

Machine Gun DAD with the Gun Know how!!!!

[@marshalllapenta7656]

Question? Why didn't SIG put a brass deflector on their firearms?

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@marshalllapenta7656 I think it’s a European thing nobody in Europe I’m aware put brass deflectors on their stuff unless they are using an American design

[@Pigpen1206]

Thanks for the video! Looking at an early JS 2xxx serial 556. Are the JS builds one of the quality 556s?

[@psp1921tsmg]

Yes. As long as it’s not worn out it is a great rifles

[@kevinjohnbourne]

Really interesting thanks. Could you do the same including the baby brother SIG 522. I have one in the UK as this is the largest calibre we can use on semi-auto. Also we have a Polish Radom AKM in .22LR in the UK called the Beryl. I am an owner and really enjoy both platforms. At least .22LR is cost effective :-)

[@psp1921tsmg]

I don’t have a 522. Sorry

[@rm5902]

Many. Thx

[@Ben_R1.0]

Hey great vid! I am thinking about buying a SIG 556 at a gun store it looks really good condition it’s a JS serial number and they with original handguard and iron sights, they’re asking $1,900, is that a good price or no? Thanks

[@psp1921tsmg]

Maybe a little high

[@tl1400]

Thanks for the video! However, what do you mean by overpay? I found a so called brand-new sig556 swat classic, have gen3 lower (or stock), quad-rail and serial is JS03xxxx. Does this era gun have any issues? The ejection place looks clean.

[@psp1921tsmg]

Over pay at the time I made the video was like 1500. No idea what it is today.

[@kingstoeck]

Hey man sorry to keep hitting this video with questions but really hard to find RELIABLE sound info. I just picked up a 2nd Sig 556 for $1,500 this time but I noticed 1 main difference that has me very confused….it has an ambi magazine release? It is a JT serial # but googling I can’t find info on this any help would be greatly appreciated. Has the gen2 style stock that folds and adjusts length of pull. Quad rail to the gas block. Everything else seems correct for a Sig 556 swat, 2 position gas block, but the ambi magazine release has me wondering if I got ripped off or something is incorrect?

[@psp1921tsmg]

My best guess is somebody swap the lower and just put the gym to stock on the strip lower or I was late enough in the production that it has the Abi mag release lower. I can’t find any real documentation on these guns, other than what I got from word of mouth.

[@kingstoeck]

@@psp1921tsmgyea that’s the tough part, I can not find any solid information about these anywhere except your video. It looks all the same as my other Sig 556 just that ambi mag release is throwing me off. Someone on google was saying it was Switzerland made they thought? Just put together by Swiss Arms in the US with the needed IS parts? Have you ever heard that?

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@kingstoeck Sigg never used Swiss 551 lowers in their production. They made their stuffing house. Also if it’s a Swiss lower it will only take the Swiss magazine informate US, A.R. 15 magazines as I earlier you have one it was later in production or somebody swapped in a later version of lower, and just switched the stock.

[@Archit3ct1]

Do you happen to know what a TP prefix means for a P556? Gen1? It has the screw.

[@psp1921tsmg]

No I do not. Has the screw? Is it a carbine or a pistol by chance?

[@Archit3ct1]

@@psp1921tsmg it's pistol varient p556 TP 3xxx serial number. It has the swat rails.

[@Archit3ct1]

@@psp1921tsmg the screw as in the take down pin for the upper you mention in the video instead of a pin for gen 1.

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@Archit3ct1 only thing I could find is tp was a pistol.

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@Archit3ct1 ok with the screw it’s a gen 1 pistol.

[@bigosbro21]

@psp1921tsmg are you in PA? Any chance you are familiar with incorrectly drilled gas ports? My 556 patrol (seems to be gen3) has incorrectly drilled ports in the gas valve. Putting it on the fouled setting actually uses a little less gas, but both settings are way overgassed, and their indistinguishable. Brass is badly dinged up, ejects 25+ feet away, and gas valve carbon locks to the gas tube.

[@psp1921tsmg]

Yeah sounds like the gas adjustment ports have been drilled out. I would get a replacement part. No sure sig will have it. Gateway supply will have it and over charge you but they will have it. Also get a new recoil spring.

[@psp1921tsmg]

Yes I’m in pa

[@bigosbro21]

@@psp1921tsmg Thanks. Do you mean Gatewood supply? And yes, they're gonna make you pay for it. I messaged them to see jf they'll confirm gas valve port measurements or guarantee correct sizes. Don't see any rwturn policy anywhere.

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@bigosbro21 I’ve only bought one time from them it was expensive but the right part

[@chopshopvehicleextrication]

Can you show the difference in handguards

[@psp1921tsmg]

I don’t have any first gen hand guards left sorry

[@CharlesRushing-ck2qm]

So GEN 1 would not have the locking stud for the side folding stock on the upper receiver. Correct?

[@psp1921tsmg]

The locking stud is on the hand guard The gen one hand guard I don’t think has the stud. I gave mine away so I don’t know on my GEN one I changed the front hand guard along with the butt stock and it locks in place now

[@CharlesRushing-ck2qm]

Mine is a SWAT Patrol Rifle ( Long Quad Rail ). The stud is located at the very end of the rail. Interestingly, I bought it new, and it has a MAGPUL adjustable stock on the fluted tube.

[@CharlesRushing-ck2qm]

P.s. JS Prefix

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@CharlesRushing-ck2qm nice.

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@CharlesRushing-ck2qm same prefix as mine

[@goodluckwithallthat]

Hey machine gun dad, great vid! I bought a sig 556 from my buddy for $900, never discharged so it’s brand new. It has the fish gill hand guard and telescoping stock like you have here shown on your gen 1. It to has the JS serial. But the stock on mine, while identical to yours, is folding. How do you suppose that is?

[@psp1921tsmg]

There is an aftermarket adapter I think maybe stormwerkz or mfi made them

[@goodluckwithallthat]

@@psp1921tsmg interesting, thank you sir

[@CharlesTheDachshund]

@@psp1921tsmg Hi there, I'm looking at getting a Sig 556 Patrol Gen 2 rifle (I believe judging by the stock). I saw it online so I'm not sure of the exact serial number but I am hesitant to get it cause of the complaints customers had with their models. Have you had any experience shooting the Gen II patrol? Edit: After finishing your video I got some great intuition on the rifle. Looks like the paint by the ejection port looks to not be worn out at all, but that makes me curious to know if there any other issues with it since it doesn't look like it was shot much. I guess at the end of the day I'm just looking to get this as a collector's item but would like to shoot it plenty and have it function as well.

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@CharlesTheDachshund my buddy has the sbr patrol swat. Shoots fine. I’m not aware of problems with gen 2s in 556 The 7.62x39s had issues although mine runs fine. There were complaints on other channels about functionality. I’d say if possible test fire it. But it is probably good to go.

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@CharlesTheDachshund also if you seeing on line is there an inspection period? And please don’t over pay

[@hk93shooter]

i just picked one up for 1000. i think ist a gen 2.5? . has a classic folder stock with short rail. swat patrol model.

[@psp1921tsmg]

You gotta steal of a deal

[@e.t.2230]

If I can find a good one for under $1,200 I’ll get it this year

[@psp1921tsmg]

In todays pricing that would be a steal

[@MomentoMori515]

Good luck, I got a Gen 1 low serial number for about $2100. They're valuable

[@ricky_trx1000]

Hello im thinking of purchasing a SIG 556 Patrol rifle but would like to know what gen it is, serial number starts with SN/44A0XXXXX and factory cardboard box says date Jul 2012 have an idea what Gen?

[@psp1921tsmg]

Is that a ie series? With the ambi mag release?

[@ricky_trx1000]

@psp1921tsmg no it doesn't show an ambi mag realease. Has a fishgill handguard with built in slim profile rear sight, not the diopter style sight.

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@ricky_trx1000 is the stock a folder at folder or folder/telescoping

[@ricky_trx1000]

@psp1921tsmg currently has an AR style stock/ ar buffer tube but not fluted like in you're video but it may have been a an aftermarker upgrade. Shows an end plate like the PWS ratcheting plates.

[@ricky_trx1000]

Rear sight is not the diopter style but a slim flip up that's built in to the receiver.

[@griffin499]

Hey bud would the classic handguards fit the 556 xi ?

[@psp1921tsmg]

On the one I have at least they won’t the classics are too long

[@griffin499]

@@psp1921tsmg the Swiss ones ? I like that classic look and there is a pretty good deal On the xi but I want stock you said looks the best and the classic handguards what would you do to achieve that look ?

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@griffin499 my xi has that stock. Only way to see if the classic hand guards fit is try them.

[@griffin499]

What is the average price you should pay for a gen 2 sig 556 I see one on this website called gun collectors with a JT prefix they want 2 grand 🤨?

[@psp1921tsmg]

That seems to be the going rate.

[@chopshopvehicleextrication]

Any way to to tell ?

[@psp1921tsmg]

I don’t know the production run on the 556r. I’d try the sig forums

[@kingstoeck]

Can you install a new barrel on these yourself? Or at all if not yourself?

[@psp1921tsmg]

It would be similar to an ak. Not a screw in

[@kingstoeck]

@@psp1921tsmg thank you. I just picked one up today for $1,300 I believe a gen 3, has the JT not JS. Side folder and longer quad rail. It does have a small spot like you mentioned where brass was deflecting. Kills my OCD lol hoping I did good on it. Has original grip and sights as well. 🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@kingstoeck you did very good

[@kingstoeck]

@@psp1921tsmg thank you! Watched your video a few times it really helped, appreciate you taking the time to do that. Sig has slowly become my favorite firearm manufacturer. I want more now lol.

[@kingstoeck]

Would a gen 2 for $1,500 be a good deal also?

[@chopshopvehicleextrication]

28 A serial on a 556r gen 1 or 2

[@psp1921tsmg]

I do not know

[@1957robertjohnson]

The 28C is the second Gen with all the updates like the steel insert in the magwell.

[@fredboat]

You don't mean there are Unscrupulous people in the gun racked. Like Duh. lol ,The Swiss Rifles are pretty good. The rest are a gamble. I ordered/bought a new Sig 556 in 2006 and when I opened the box at my FFL, I had a USED rifle sent directly from Sig ,USA. I called the POS salesman and HE actually told me they run 60 rds threw Ever rifle and leave it Filthy to show it worked. Never buy their rifles.

[@psp1921tsmg]

I’ve never had a problem with them except for a xi. The front sight was mounted on the gas block and the rail. So when it got hot the sights moved. Moved the sight solely onto the rail shot fine.

[@psp1921tsmg]

Yeah there are lots of thieves but new people coming into hobby seldom know the “tricks” thieves use. A lot of my videos are aimed at “newbies” as I’m trying to get more people interested and not disgusted by being ripped off.

[@muffemod]

Don't tape your receiver! Let it get use marks!

[@psp1921tsmg]

Nope I never liked brass marks in a receiver

[@muffemod]

@@psp1921tsmg You do you! I like it rough and tough baby!

[@arturosoriano5593]

Sig Sauer USA Sig 556 rifles are all poor quality rifles . You're better off buying the Sig 553 ,551 , 550, or the PE90 .

[@psp1921tsmg]

@@arturosoriano5593 if you can afford 3-4 times the price

[@jrowinski82]

How can you make a video about overpaying and not even have a clue what they are worth?

[@psp1921tsmg]

For several reasons, first of all, the prices, go up and down second videos, get old and when somebody looks at it and sees the prices that I’m quoting from a while ago, they are misled. This video was made six months ago. Do you think the prices are the same now as they were then? The information stays valid whether the prices change or not.

[@saltyguerrilla]

Thanks for the great videos! I have a chance to buy a New 556R hitch I believe is a gen 3 according to the stock. Do you think it’s worth getting at 1 8 oo.oo?

[@psp1921tsmg]

It better be close to perfect for that much