Sig Cross review | Range report 1

[@johnstewart7022]

Have you chronographed your ammunition? As a benchmark, it would be useful to chrono M80 ball, which would allow us to compare with 20" and 22" barrel rifles.

[@blainejobin1039]

gd vid, how ever try it with out the , tripod? see if that make a differents

[@AlabamaPilgrim333]

I’ve taken 2 deer and a Coyote this year with this rifle. It likes 165-168 grains. Hornady American Hunter, Federal Fusion, Federal Trophy Bonded. Hex bolt on stock worked loose. Will be adding loctite. Rattlecanned mine in the backyard.

[@kilosoutdoors2706]

What is on the front of your hand guard that says Cross on it? Looks like you've got a different hand guard then I've got.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Just the rail that came with it. I wish they would open up the spec so people can start making aftermarket parts for it.

[@te243win7]

Watch your shooting form on vid. First shots you keep your cheek well planted at recoil, next group jerking your head of as soon as trigger breaks, last group still lifting your cheek slightly on break. Consistency is key!

[@Mrkelsmiller55]

I also noticed the same thing, keeping your cheek weld will help the accuracy. Lifting your head to look down range will hurt your accuracy. IMO

[@howardbaity9462]

whats up with that 11th BDE patch, were you ADA,

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Nope! Strictly MP. Last deployment I was on, we had a detachment with us. They didn't speak to us, and I didn't care. But our squad leader had a hard on to being their best friend for some reason. He got a few patches from them and passed them out. "Souvenirs," I guess. Years later, I pulled it out of a box of stuff, and it's been sitting up there ever since. Thanks for telling who it was though!

[@MarkJ-zp6sy]

Thanks for the excellent video and honest appraisal of the sig cross. I’m considering buying a lightweight hunting rifle in 308 and you have been very helpful.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Thanks man! Appreciate it!

[@bankaydin]

I put a QD sling mount point on the rear most part of the rail.

[@oct1307]

Can you give us info on the bag? Thanks for the video.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Hey Jeff! It's the Condor Rifle bag. Here's the link, and the it's in the description above. www.amazon.com/dp/B006GHV5FA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_W1XE5DWHW4QCTHW8VFXT

[@oct1307]

@@AlabamaVeteran thanks.

[@milo555100]

thank you for making this vid. well done!!

[@AlabamaVeteran]

No problem! I try to show the most honest shooting.

[@bootsandgear]

Nice review.

[@AlienMetals]

I like the gun however I would personally rather see the .308 and the 6.5 Creed moor with a 20" bbl. I think it puts the gun in a more forgiving velocity node and would cut down significantly on blast. I'm thinking the gun was designed with the expectation of running a suppressor. This is pure speculation on my part. Then again if you have access to 277 Fury ammo than the 16" barrel isn't really holding you back. Me personally, I wouldn't buy one unless it had at least a 20" barrel. Come on Sig lets get some barrel options.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

I agree. The short barrel does have limit you in that regsrd. But, I actually like the shorter barrel, just for a compact rifle. I believe there is a manufacturer that's coming out with carbon fiber wrapped barrels. And I may pick it up next year. Definitely agree about Sig offering some barrels in the future. I think they'll make a killing if they do.

[@grgoss1]

Carbon wrapped 18 with a .308 would check all my boxes. The 16 is what is holding me back on the purchase.

[@arkoutarkout3654]

Check if you can get canadain modle ,18 in is miminal length in Canada ,I rember the ruger scout rifel was SS and longer there

[@arminkowitz2726]

@@arkoutarkout3654 18 inch is not min for manual operated. The cross in 308 is 16inch NR.

[@arkoutarkout3654]

@@arminkowitz2726 18 inch is min legal barrel lenth in Canada

[@lalalala3968]

The rifle jump like it was doing chicken dance. Spike feet on those some atlas bipod would let you preload that rifle. Work well on that wood floor for sure.

[@luismartin4137]

Excellent video, good job and very clear!!

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Man! I appreciate it so much. I love making these, love discussing them but wonder if anyone gets anything out of it or watches them. Really appreciate the feedback!

[@spetsnaz85]

Great video! Keep up the good work! Have you tried it with a muzzle brake?

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Thanks! I haven't settled on what I want, and of course money for it.

[@gh0st-6]

Highly recommend gen 2 lil bastard brake by American Precision on it. Tames it to not kick at all and looks awesome.

[@captsam54]

The SIG Proprietary feed lips on the Magazine follower were designed that way so you could easily load a single round into the barrel with the magazine empty.. Great Idea I thought.. I hope someone down below did not say this already.. And the Magpul Bipod can be turned backwards with the knob loosened so the bipod won't stick out past the barrel.. (well that's the way I do mine.).

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

How do you load the bipod with it backwards?

[@captsam54]

@@Heywoodthepeckerwood You flip it around when your ready to use it....

[@rudolphferdinand3634]

I see 31Bravo MOS/MP/95B. The Winchester M80 ball known accuracy 1.5-2.0" group.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Yes sir. I was 31B/MP when I was in. The Winchester M80 was just a control I threw in there since it had a known accuracy

[@joereid8399]

What caliber were you shooting that day at the range? 6.5, 277 furry, or 308

[@AlabamaVeteran]

I apologize, 308.

[@Danyang1]

What’s the distance you’re shooting out to? Been looking for a lightweight 308 hunting rifle that can put pretty tight groups down range.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

100 yard range at the CMP. Hopefully next week I'll get a video out after testing some loads out to 300 and eventually 600. Maybe I'll be able to get a range report, and share some load data

[@Danyang1]

@@AlabamaVeteran thank you! Very interested in seeing that!

[@crazyeyes1533]

what ammo did you use for that last group?

[@AlabamaVeteran]

165gr Hornaday over IMR 3031

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Look at 12:32 time stamp

[@doclogic]

I'm surprised you're getting accuracy. Not loading the bipod, and changing your support hand position a lot. Then moving from bench to prone will give you different results.

[@fabianvaras1273]

I think is a honest review

[@scotsasnett]

How far do you think you can reach out using the lpvo?

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Oooo! That's a good discussion. So many variables. Personally my opinion, I wouldn't use a 1-4 past say 300 maybe 400 max. I have made shots though put to 600 with it and held consistent groups. It really depends on a number of factors. Shooter skill, ballistics, scope capability such as, does the reticle allow for drop compensation, (IE mil reticle of some type) is the scope base a 20MOA so you can fail the scope to get the most out of your turrets? Do you know the external ballistics of that bullet? However that being said, I have also been able to shoot sub MOA with iron sights (as seen in the video attached) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnWoYY1vZq1jaNk

[@brandongarcia3328]

How do you like it with the LPVO

[@AlabamaVeteran]

I like. This is a stand in until I find something else. But for majority of shots where I live, distance can be between 25 yards out to an average of 150 yards. Rarely I can get 2-300 yards. When I do pick one out this probably going to be a 2-10 power. Just for that low magnification.

[@brandongarcia3328]

@@AlabamaVeteran that’s how I am. I wanna get the cross for close to mid range hunting and I have a vortex strike eagle lpvo I was thinking about just throwing it on there I think will just do the job.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

@@brandongarcia3328 always say, it depends on your situation and needs. The "mission" drives the gear, not the other way around.

[@brandongarcia3328]

@@AlabamaVeteran appreciate it man!!

[@AlabamaVeteran]

@@brandongarcia3328 no prob!

[@johnbillenstein8872]

How was the recoil?

[@AlabamaVeteran]

It's a 16" barrel, so you notice it, but it's not awful.

[@totaldla]

I didn't see a chronograph. I could save a lot of money shooting deer with a 30-30, but for killing Elk at 500yds that 165gr needs to be moving faster than what you launch from a 16.5" barrel.

[@chadjordan9382]

I know that range Talladega CMP.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

I'm going to attempt to get over there tomorrow if I can wake up early enough (work nights). Put a different scope and bipod on it and want to try it out.

[@JeffreyPMoton]

What bag were you using to carry your Cross?

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Condor Outdoor bag. Check the top at the description and there's a link to it

[@Wesmancan]

I like what I like. Idc what you like or not.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

Check out the Range report 2. Think I'm finally getting it dialed in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHqyepKhn9CiqbM

[@bankaydin]

I would never get the Q Fix because the company is too small and does not have the resources, parts, service, and support of the big boys.

[@ThePracticalPatriot]

Uh, you do realize Sig has a horrible track record recently of 1. Recalls (320, 365, Cross) AND 2. Bad history of abandoning platforms- like the Sig 556 leaving owners with NO SUPPORT etc...If that's Sig Support/Resources...I don't need it.

[@undergroundwatchdog8141]

Dude cut that out.

[@demitrisolvinski]

3 shot groups don't count

[@AlienMetals]

That's bs. If you can go out and shoot 3 shot groups that consistently measure extremely close than I really don't think it's giving you bad data. Having said that if you shoot a 1/2" group and the next one is 2" than your not really doing yourself any favors. We all know the guy who got lucky and shot a fluke 1/2" group yet most others are all over the board Now he's got a 1/2" gun, well yeah that's bullshit. I don't think it's smart to lump everyone into the same category. For most shooters 3 shot groups are misleading but that doesn't mean that some people maintain a strong skill set and when combined with a consistent firearm than you can learn from 3 shot groups.

[@AlabamaVeteran]

More than 3 shot groups would definitely be nice. (If I had enough money for more ammo) but a three shot triangulation still is enough to get some decent data. Funny thing. I know I'm a decent shot at least from the video below. I'm going to follow up with some more video on load development in the future of anyone interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnWoYY1vZq1jaNk

[@AlienMetals]

@Southern Guns Always interested in load data. If possible please include Chrono numbers. Have u tried any of the Barnes 130gr TTSX bullets? I bet u could turn some decent numbers with IMR 3031 or BLC-2. BTW, have u been able to run any Factory 168gr or 175gr F.G.M.M? Stuff seems to always shoot well. Finding some that isn't overpriced is a whole different ballgame. Enjoy the awesome rifle and happy holidays.