Sig Reached Out about the P365 Fuse Issues

Here's a quick video about the Sig P365 fuse. Sig reached out and wants the gun shipped back to fix the issues.
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[@DanielDraper-ki4hr]

I just bought 2 P365 Fuse pistols this week, one with Romeo X one without. I took them both to the range and ran about 200 rounds through each with all the magazines with zero issues.

[@averagemarksman]

@@DanielDraper-ki4hr that’s great news!

[@papaknowshow]

i shot mine for the first time this weekend. all 3 mags all ran flawlessly. ran perfect no failure to feed. i put 300 rounds down range. it does get hot but zero failures.

[@averagemarksman]

That’s great news.

[@billg4517]

Good video and to the point. I also spoke with Sig and they told me basically the same thing. I did however choose to put the Fuse on the trading block after my last range session where I had 3 failures to feed after the 8 failures to feed from the previous range session. I too like Sig, I have an Sig Specter Comp which is flawless, and one of the best guns in my collection. But the fuse, it's been a bit of a disappointment. Keep up the good work, cheers...😀

[@averagemarksman]

Bill, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. If it wasn’t for them reaching out I would have let someone else deal with it. In that name of transparency I wanted to give them the opportunity to resolve the issues and document it.

[@scvdeputy]

Several other people having same issue. Want one badly but I’ll wait and see how Sig is gonna fix this issue.

[@averagemarksman]

Ya, I saw a video showing major FTF issues.

[@scvdeputy]

@@averagemarksmanBTW, ya gonna make it to Knoxville in a few weeks?

[@gemo9561]

3:59 you're not a "nobody"!

[@codypribyl7686]

I just shot mine for the first time last weekend. Had a good amount of FTF the first 200 rounds. After that, the next 100 ran without any issues. Going to go back again this weekend and see if I have anymore.

[@averagemarksman]

Hopefully you don’t run into any issues.

[@codypribyl7686]

@@averagemarksman Thanks man, I'm hopeful! When looking at the FTF that I was having, it was almost like the extractor was too tight. Not sure if it just wore in enough to work properly now.

[@averagemarksman]

@@codypribyl7686 I wouldn’t have sent it in to Sig if we weren’t still having issues at 500 rounds. A little polishing and ours was good to go. Hopefully yours just took a few hundred rounds to start running well.

[@dtodeen]

Never buy a gun on its first run. Wait a year.

[@averagemarksman]

It’s true. Unfortunate though.

[@deenyc1049]

Sometimes we get caught up in the marketing and excitement and we just gotta have it.

[@RonnieEverette]

Guns aren't like video games.. U never buy on the release date.. wait until the batch after the initial release, you'll Always get a better version on the next batch.. Im going to buy my Fuse in November.. Im glad that u guys are willing to buy the initial release though so we can all see the reviews, and learn about how functional it is and what potential problems it may have.. My experience with Sig has always been good.. My Xmacro tacops is probably one of my favorite carry guns ever and I haven't touched my glock19 since I got it.. My nephew has basically gotten every popular gun to hit the market on its initial release date since 2015, and almost every time he has some kind of small issue.. I usually get mine a few months after and never have those issues.. He had issues with the 17 round mags on his Xmacro when it dropped, I Don't have those issues with mine.. I know Sig will figure out the issue, thanks for being a Guinea pig for us

[@averagemarksman]

I don’t disagree. At some point these issues shouldn’t happen though.

[@J.Wick.]

You shouldn't buy video games early either...for the same reasons..but other than that, I agree with you. I've had issues multiple times from multiple mfgrs on early releases. Learned my lesson. Just like a video game, bugs are plenty early on. If you wait, you'll get a better product, and likely pay less as well. Cheers!

[@RonnieEverette]

@averagemarksman I just think it's something that you'll run into with pretty much any gun manufacturer.. My nephew bought the Staccato P when it first dropped and it had issues and he had to send it back

[@RonnieEverette]

@J.Wick. with video games an update patch will usually solve those issues though.. Too bad we can't download updates for pistols 😂

[@BioHorror]

This is true and sad, it's the same with vehicles now days also. You mention November, is that when the next batch releases? If so, how can I find such info for future release, that would be very valuable knowledge. Thx.

[@mchlcordell]

You will somebody someday keep up the good work 😎

[@averagemarksman]

One day at a time.

[@edwardnelson3304]

I hope it's a one off, because I don't like sending guns back to the factory via UPS or anyone else, too big a risk of being stolen. Best of luck to you, I hope Sig takes care of it for you. Blessings

[@averagemarksman]

Let’s hope it’s a one off. I’m not a fan of sending guns off either but I figured it’s a good thing to document in the videos about it.

[@sigxm5thumb]

Used to work at ups and USPS and yes guns get stolen and yes it bc people put them in the gun case and slap shipping labels on them here’s a tip when you ship your gun make it look nothing like a gun just get a lot of bubble wrap and a regular box that’s double the size of your gun then wrap the gun in bubble wrap to where it completely fills the box

[@averagemarksman]

People actually ship pistols in the box they come in? That's wild.

[@johndomutz1052]

Thank you for this advice. As a retired transportation professional, I know transportation companies are not perfect. If I have to ship a firearm, now I know how to do it. Thanks again

[@johndomutz1052]

It's also stupid...

[@Rooster-fo7lg]

I have a Spectre that has intermittent FTE issues. I sent that to them twice, both times they ran a box of ammo through it and sent it back to me. Problem is that the issue doesn’t manifest that often. They never did shit for me. I ended up buying a chamber polishing tool myself and that seemed to fix the problem until last weekend when it started choking again. It wasn’t that dirty, but had about 500 rounds without a cleaning and about 1000+ since its last malfunction however it was choking about every other magazine 3-4 times that session. It runs 2 or 300 rounds pretty well then it gets spotty. I really want to love Sigs…I’ve just had less than stellar performance out of the 3 polymer pistol’s from them that I’ve owned. 2 365’s and one 320. The 226 is in a completely different class though. That is dead nuts reliable. I’m sure it’s had a malfunction in the 20+ years I’ve had it, but I can’t remember when.

[@averagemarksman]

Man, I had an X Macro Comp that did the same thing. I ended up selling it because of those issues. Let’s see what happens with this one.

[@Rooster-fo7lg]

They make such amazing guns and they have such a story history, it pisses me off that their modern copies are just not that great. They get an A+ for design and a B minus for reliability.

[@KevinNiven]

I have had a gun repaired and then sold it. I would never sell a gun and not disclose it is having problems. I worry someone may need it to save a life, and it won't work.

[@averagemarksman]

I wouldn’t sell it without telling someone the issues it’s having. After all I did just document every single issue publicly. I also wouldn’t purchase a pistol and depend on it without testing it out.

[@philipguisinger4502]

I definitely have buyers remorse with mine. I figured that since they have had the P365 platform for a bit now, they would have the issues ironed out... apparently not. My failure rate was 24% combined through all three mags. I mean... i guess the silver lining is the romeo-x that comes with it?

[@averagemarksman]

@@philipguisinger4502 that’s terrible. I would reach out to Sig immediately. It’s unacceptable in my opinion but atleast they are willing to take them back and polish them up a bit. In your case lots of polishing.

[@mikevaquero3766]

You don't hear of these kinds of problems with the Springfield Hellcat Pro. Tested and proven with zero malfunctions over 20,000 rounds. Will wait patiently for Springfield's answer to the P365 Fuse. Bonus: I can carry with the 15 round mag for excellent concealment or carry with the 17 round mag to match the X-Macro capacity. Can't shorten the long grip of the X-Macro or Fuse.

[@txhuntsman]

Except for all the YT videos you can find with issues with the Hellcat. Every mfg has guns that get out that are not shooters. No exceptions.

[@averagemarksman]

I agree. They send out several thousands pistols. There has to be an issue somewhere.

[@Orcus1030]

Can't shorten the grip?? Uh, not aware that you can swap grip modules are you 😂

[@benyoo6701]

Got hellcat pro and a macro. Ergonomics, I like the pro better like the grip and support thumb spots and flush fit mag, slide release location being further back (don’t have huge hands) Shootability, I like the macro much better hands down. Prints a bit for macro, pro not so much. Had a regular hellcat I traded for the 365x, cause it shot like ass. Then got the 365 axg legion last. And that’s FANTASTIC. waiting to see on the fuse as I just started this video

[@averagemarksman]

Have you ever sent a gun back in to be repaired?

[@BeanieBeanTX]

Yes, and not just SIG Sauer. I will update you on my repair, as mentioned in an earlier of your posts.

[@spankyt10]

I bought a Sig P320 AXG Pro, 20 rounds in it had a completely dead trigger, the trigger bar had snapped in 2, sent it to Sig for warranty work and traded it in as soon as it came back as I no longer trusted it, traded in my P365XL too, I no longer trust Sig striker fired handguns and won’t own another. Say what you will but I’ve never had an issue with any Glock or Springfield Armory products, and I’ve owned roughly 7-8 Glocks over the years, though I do know lemons do happen, Sig definitely has a track record of producing more than anyone else.

[@frankbodenschatz173]

Yes, my Taurus GX4 for a recall, no problems b4 or after! And just got the Fuse. Had 1 FTF on my first 17 mag. That's, all, but both 21 round(actually can only load 20) and it does hit great! Ejects it all at 3-3:30.

[@2Amend4Life]

I have had the same problem. Light primer strikes. Failure to go into batteries. Too many people having the same issue. There is an issue

[@averagemarksman]

@@2Amend4Life 100%. They should fix it with any issues thankfully.

[@Bryan-1689]

Following as I just got my P365 Fuse. Chuke's just made a video he is having the same issues. Hopefully this is not a major issue and I have no problems as I traded my SA Hellcat Pro Comp for this firearm as I could not shoot the HCP Comp well. Hope they resolve it quickly and something easy, especially if I experience the same issues with mine.

[@averagemarksman]

Bryan, hopefully Sig has a solution.

[@scvdeputy]

@@Bryan-1689 yeah I am seeing several videos on KZbin. I could be wrong but it seems it is occurring more when the pistol has the optic installed versus the pistols without. Wonder if it is the extra weight of the optic slowing the slide down to seat the new round. At least most of what I have seen is the FTF issue. May need a different recoil spring.

[@averagemarksman]

That’s a great point.

[@Bryan-1689]

@@scvdeputy bought mine without an optic but have installed my Holosun EPS on it. Most I have seen is the fail to return back to full battery. One specifically called out only had when shoot 147g ammo but fine all others but seen other grain weights being used and having issues. I am thinking a couple things personally, recoil spring weight, chamber cut to minimum tolerances, kind of like the issue SA had with their early Prodigies which I had both models and had the issue which SA corrected or the magazine springs super tight and putting to much "up pressure" on the rounds as they are being chambered as it is extremely difficult to get a full magazine load, last round or two and have to hit the bottom of the magazine to get it to lock in place with the slide closed and hard to rack the initial round off the magazine. Still have not had a chance to shoot mine yet and may get to Tuesday or this weekend for sure. If I have issues, I may try putting the slide on my AXG grip module and see it it runs with the Fuse Mags and I will also try to use my other magazines that came with my AXG Legion. I have had zero issues with that firearm and I am 900 rounds deep in it so far, will hit the 1,000+ mark this week on it. I may also try running the AXG slide on the Fuse frame with the Fuse mags as well to see what happens.

[@scvdeputy]

@@Bryan-1689 great info. Will wait for the results. Also hoping videos begin popping up once some come back from Sigs fix.

[@coreygraham6287]

What was the problem with the Fuse

[@averagemarksman]

Gun wouldn’t run. Failure to feed after failure to feed. Few other issues.

[@deusvult6632]

I had the same problems with my Sig. I just melted it down and made a Canik out of it. Now it shoots like it should.

[@averagemarksman]

That’s entertaining.

[@TylerHempsey]

grain of the round could be it also

[@averagemarksman]

@@TylerHempsey it wasn’t. They polished the items mentioned in the follow up videos a ton to get the gun to run smoothly.

[@talega1]

Looks like a "boomerang".

[@S.0.G]

Sig is poop. Every new release has issues. Gun looking guns but not sure how they're able to keep customers

[@averagemarksman]

At this point I’m pretty sure every gun company has non stop issues.

[@tomalderman7598]

Friend of mine had a smith ez 9mm. Sent it back to smith 3 times cause it wouldn’t cycle. Never fixed it and they refused to replace the gun or refund his money. I was gonna buy a smith but not now.

[@averagemarksman]

I hate to hear about experiences like that!

[@Rooster-fo7lg]

I’m sure they will end up taking care of your pistol since they know that the purpose is to review it on KZbin. I wasn’t overly impressed with my recent customer service experience. They should have taken me at my word, polished the chamber and swapped out the extractor for good measure even though I had replaced it myself.

[@tomalderman7598]

@@averagemarksman. My local shop had a deal going on a Springfield hellcat pro. Crimson trace optic and 4 mags with a field bag. I don’t care for the trigger but I like everything else and I’m hoping it will settle in after a couple hundred rounds. I wanted to buy local to support them and if I had an issue it will be easy to take it back to them.

[@johnnynguyen9449]

my gf forced me to get this gun based of looks... i also wanted a reason to get this gun lmao

[@averagemarksman]

@@johnnynguyen9449 hahah. It’s a sharp looking pistol.

[@joshuathomas4934]

why does sig have to do this when they release new guns. its like they test nothing. once they work out the kinks they are great but wtf

[@averagemarksman]

@@joshuathomas4934 at the end of the day it’s still a P365. They should have it figured out by now.

[@generalrooter]

587 subscribers now 😁

[@averagemarksman]

Thanks! I appreciate it. The pistol was sent off to Sig today. Hopefully it returns and doesn’t have any issues.

[@nchellcatbadboy3625]

Finally went to the range with my fuse and my p320 both with sig red dots. Dot lost zero on both guns. 2nd or 3rd time for my p320(romeo 1 pro). My other guns worked flawlessly. Now my takedown lever on the p320 is stuck. I've only shot this gun 3 times with maybe 3 17rd clips. Sig is really really becoming my throw away guns. It's getting ridiculous. I was actually thinking about getn the new enclosed romeo x. Hell nooooooo I'll stick with holosun. I also have the p320 x carry and p365 axg legion. Those guns have been pretty good to me but as far as any sigs in the future, 👎

[@averagemarksman]

Oh man. That’s a rough trip to the range. Did the Fuse shoot well?

[@nchellcatbadboy3625]

@@averagemarksman yes sir. It shot well. No malfunctions.

[@averagemarksman]

@@nchellcatbadboy3625 awesome. Mine should be back tomorrow from Sig.

[@1stidvet553]

Video could have been way shorter but this guy talked non sense for 1/2 of the time. We know how warranties work and how customer service works…terrible

[@averagemarksman]

You know how warranties work - that does not mean folks who are new to purchasing a firearm understand how the process works.

[@dtodeen]

Smith will not go out of there way to fix there failed 10mm.

[@averagemarksman]

What’s going on with it?

[@dtodeen]

@@averagemarksman oh it runs now. Three trips to Smith and a miracle.