Sigma 10-18 F2.8 vs Tamron 11-20 F 2.8 - Best Wide Zoom For APS-C

[@pmAdministrator]

Thank you for your honesty. Many reviewers seem paid these days and avoid saying negative things about products. I hope you stay the way you are.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

If they are paid they should legally disclose it - not saying all do - but it's the law. There's lots of great gear and companies understand that their products aren't perfect. My goal is to try and explain the gear so people know what they're getting and what to choose

[@christophercrumpton9699]

i originally wanted the tamron, then was leaning towards the sigma when it came out, but i stumbled across a deal i couldn't pass up on the tamron and couldn't be happier with it. I haven't felt the need for the extra mm on the wide end, but the extra reach, at least for me as a travel/ everyday lens, on the zoom end has definitely come in handy. I'm sure the sigma being sigma is a great lens, but the tamron has been great to me! I appreciate all the advice and insights on the two side by side and the original reviews. Camera crisis is my first stop when I'm considering new gear. Thanks as always Mark.

[@mccgre51]

You do such an amazing job with these comparisons. You’re my go-to guy for all things cameras. Thanks for all you do.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

thanks for saying that!!

[@Sebartus]

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis could you do Sigma 56mm F1.4 vs Viltrox 75mm F1.2 on A6700

[@Benjomatic]

@@Sebartus Please don't. I don't want to have to buy the Viltrox too :(

[@todddammit4628]

How did I know before searching that you were gonna be the one with a video comparing these two? Lol great job Mark

[@pocketfulofcryptos]

Splendid review. TXL! Sigma 10-18 F2.8 is in my favor. I bought it yesterday for my Sony ZV-E 10. Best wishes from Switzerland. Christian

[@DerekSOutdoors]

I have the tamron and it is better for my use case (backcountry camping videos). The Tamron is weather sealed throughout where as the sigma dc dn's are only sealed at the mount. I do love the images from my sigma 16mm though, so i am extra careful with it in the wild when it rains.

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Thank you. I ended up with the Sigma 10-18mm. Own quite a few Sigma APS-C and full frame and no Tamron’s lenses and I liked the Sigma pairing with the 18-50/2.8 with their really small size on my A6700. Also own the Sigma 30/1.4 and 56/1.4 primes for this kit and the Sony 15/1.4 G. Im very happy with the purchase for sure. Enjoy your reviews. Take care.

[@Max-Green]

I am so happy that we have such choice.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

it’s crazy, right??

[@Max-Green]

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yea!!! But good old 10-18 F4 OSS is extremely useful too.

[@alijafri2022]

The Ulanzi sounds surprisingly better, especially at the low end frequency. Of course the distance range is lower as is the bitrate, but shouldn't really make that much of a difference if you're going on KZbin . I guess the build quality is what matters. I wonder how the Ulanzi would handle a drop, or general usage over time. Still, it's cost effective enough to easily replace. Great review!

[@mark_barrentine]

I hope the Ulanzi Wireless Mic Kit is in the review pipeline. It sounded great and includes internal recording for each mic, just like the big boys and only costs $99 USD.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

yes, coming very soon

[@thelion9588]

Great video. For me, sigma images look a little more washed out compared to tamron. I think I’ll keep my tamron for now.

[@KPGuitarStudios]

Just ordered an interesting lens... Tamron 18-400 for Canon, speedboosted for m43. Can't wait! You wanna talk about a killer travel setup? Yes buddy, 12.87-284mm f2.4-4.4. Ohhh buddy. Sure the 12-100 f4 Pro is sweet but man, really curious to see how this stacks up. Armchair Videographer videos will be coming up as well. Fun times! Newfoundland says hello as well :) Sigma bokeh balls were a little salty haha

[@navpreetkaur3574]

Your reviews are amazing. please do a comparison between sony 11mm and sigma 10-18 lens. I need to decide for zv e10.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

what are you shooting?

[@vvlad78]

Thank you for review, Mark. Have you compared geometric distortion of these lenses? Btw, 11mm f1.8 with Active stab looks more stable for sure!

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

the plane of focus is flatter on the sigma, which is why the corners stay sharper

[@vvlad78]

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yes, I saw it in sharpness test. I asked about barrel and pincushion distortion.

[@DDHDTV]

Could you compare the Sigma 18-50 vs Sigma 28-70 FF? I know, kinda strange comparisons, maybe theres enough interest. Reason asking is, that I was pleasingly surprised when I saw pictures from the FF Sigma but not from the little one. Wondering if that had more to do with my cam in that case. (A6000 vs a7c). If its similar, I'll probably just go grab the a6700 then

[@jonathanleong2537]

Please compare with 15mm lens

[@Josue-zq4fk]

me gustaría ver una comparativa en astrofotografia 🌃🌟

[@bdvisuals_]

Can both these lens work good with the a7iv for 4k 60?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

absolutely

[@JoeCastellon]

It only sounds dirty because we like camera gear so much 👌🏻

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

🤣🤣

[@zenphotocraftmedia8326]

When you turn on the active on the sony . What's the length 10mm become ?

[@S._R._]

40% crop. Something like a 14 or 15 mm.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

active on the 6700 crops in 10% - so like an 11-12. on the zv-e10 is more like a 14-15 because it’s a bigger crop on the zv-e10

[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

Second 😂

[@vextakes]

I did really like the video. Am I crazy, how does it have 14k likes but 7.8k views. Am I crazy? That’s impossible right?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I think that must be a glitch. this video has 406 likes.

[@carmelobanados4339]

Thanks for the awesome review. I was considering both lenses along with the Tokina 10-18mm ATX f2.8 which was on sale for $399. I have a Sony A6700 with the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 and the little Sigma 10-18mm was the perfect complement for my compact kit. In the end the compact size and the minimum focus distance of the Sigma was what won me over the Tamron and the Tokina. I initially bought a Sony 11mm f1.8 but I found that it was too wide for a street lens. In the end the 10-18mm zoom suited my purposes better as a walk around lens and as you pointed out can also be used indoors as a studio lens. This kit fits in a 3L Peak Design Bag and I find that I take it out most of the time instead of my full frame kit. My friends are surprised that this APSC kit is lighter and more compact than even their Micro Four Thirds Kit.

[@Kotokasmil]

What the best feel you perfect ? , sigma 18 50 or sigma 10 18 sir ?

[@daishum000]

@@Kotokasmil this two lens serve for different purpose. if you prefer lighter, go for 18-50.

[@j16m02]

I'm just waiting for Sigma to complete the trifecta with a 50-150mm f2.8 or f4

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

for sure!! get that tele, Sigma

[@davidconti_travels]

I’m sure it will be a 2.8… Well, at least I hope so 😅

[@j16m02]

@@davidconti_travels I have mixed feelings on that. As much as I would prefer 2.8, the appeal of the 10-18 and 18-50 is their size for travel. I guess if Sigma could keep it small, 2.8 would be ok, but personally, if it takes a F4.0 to keep the size consistent with the other 2, I'd be willing to do that.

[@sehyeokpark4470]

Thanks for the nice comparison. It would be far nicer if the sharpness tests were done at landscape scene rather than macro, because that's what these lenses are for, and more importantly, sharpness widely differs on focusing distances in general.

[@brunooliv3ira63]

And also compare sharpness with smaller apertures

[@joshuaaruiz]

Would be cool if you compare the 11mm 1.8 & the Sigma 10-18 2.8

[@sheri1983]

What a time we live in, a few years ago I owned a Fuji and I was locked in buying expensive Fuji lenses. Sigma and Tamron and others changed the game.

[@christophercrumpton9699]

You're the best Mark, have been waiting for a review of these 2 side by side. Thank you thank you thank you.

[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

Can you compare the Tamron 17-70 to the sigma 18-50?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I’ll look into it. Bit they’re both great lenses

[@Mosesybanez]

Pause he said they feel good in the hand or where ever you want to put them lol. 😂

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

🤣

[@aManoftheMeeple]

The Tamron was the first lens I bought when I purchased my ZV-e10 and it's been absolutely fantastic. I can't recommend it enough.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

it’s so good

[@NicholasWeir]

Which would be better for vlogging and gym footage? T 11-20 or S 10-18? (assuming the camera will be on a tripod or gamble at all times)

[@rzrdaze]

Im still having trouble making up my mind. The Tamron is available for about $475 used in excellent or LN condition, The the edge sharpness is way better IMO on the Sigma. Also, the Tamron has better weather resistance. Somebody, make up my mind! LOL. Hey, great review sir.

[@r3vky]

wonderful comparison thanks Mark!

[@HagaishiSama]

As a mostly prime user the Sony E 11mm is top tier among the lazy zoom users lol Fully weather sealed F/1.8 Sharper Native lens Cool video as always

[@IntrovertAmateur]

I would definitely choose the sigma today but to be fair Tamron was earlier in the game and released the 11-20 2.8 in 2021. Until sigma released this beauty the Tamron was the only ultra wide 2.8 lens for Sony APSc. Great comparison as always Mark 😊

[@lukasp12345678]

An objective video about these lenses. As always, with a dose of humor. Thanks for your information tips. Best regards from Austria.

[@puppet_master]

I'd love the sigma, if not for it's worse weather sealing vs the Tameron. I hope Sony eventually does one without compromise, but at the same time, it's a hard range for them to justify entry into given how competent the competition is here.

[@KNAPPAID]

Theyre both going for different stakes. The sigmas almost always degault back to sharpness at all cost , disregarding size , corner sharpness to some extent and etc. Tamrons have kinda been supporting sony's non gm and g zoom lenses while going for overall value.

[@michaelgoodwin4480]

I’ve seen that the Sony 10-20 works on FF without any vignette/crop applied. How well do these work on a FF body?

[@me.aftabb]

please make a video on FUJIFILM X-S20 vs SONY A6700. Please please do it.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

yes - looking into it

[@tanmaysakpalofficial]

Yeah this would be a great video 🙌

[@Name-so9ns]

would be nice to check sharpness at 18mm at something else than macro distance....like real world street distance

[@KNAPPAID]

Its funny that sigma's apsc zoom are always smaller since it is built for apsc and with no compromise ( they couldve used the 28 70 chassis ). While tamrons are always bigger since their apsc and ff stuff is mostly different internals ( 17 70 is in a 2875 chassis with is ). Good on both ends , at least the bigger ones have a reason to exist

[@stanobert3475]

The Tamron has better weather sealing for outdoor photographers.

[@Gunta87]

it is so hard to choose man

[@S._R._]

Love them both, but my heart belongs to the Sony 11. 🖤

[@hellohogo]

The price did not drop somehow

[@bondgabebond4907]

Here is your TR.

[@RodrigoLomeli-uq5nq]

I watched the video until the end and immediately subscribed. It's such a good review; I'll check on your channel before making any purchase decisions!! Thank you!

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

Thanks!!

[@BigAppleEmperor]

Hi Mark, I really enjoy all your videos, but can you choose a better outdoor location to shoot, all your outdoor videos are shot in the zombie ghettos in Baltimore, which is depressing. Thank you.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I am walking in my neighbourhood - so… thanks??

[@sgtmango-ko4lw]

😂 give mark a break

[@speecher1959]

Does the little passerby also wonder about the lives of the lives of the 38k people watching the video. She likely should. :-) Now that these lenses are coming to the Canon R APS-C line-up, I can start paying attention. Except for the price, I'm really not terribly wild about my RF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-6.3 and glad to see that there are going to be options.

[@looktothefuture84]

Wider, smaller AND lighter? The Sigma takes it, easily. What a perfect travel UWA. This lens almost makes me want to stay with APS-C instead of FF for my travel set-up 😅 I really wish their 18-50mm was 16mm at the wide end. The less we need to change out our main lenses for a spacialist lens (i.e. the wide angle), the better.

[@somratdutta]

pls do it in ZVE1, i am planning to get this...

[@JoseOnTheAir]

So I was thinking of getting the Sigma but then the Tokina 11-18mm F2.8 (ATX-M) fell into my cart instead at $399. So far I'm loving it. Perhaps if you're able to, maybe adding it to the comparison with these lenses just to see where it aligns?

[@Hene37]

Watching this on 48" 4K screen and Sigma is noticeably sharper in the center even through KZbin compression.

[@Mosesybanez]

I like the bigger size of the tamron the sigma i know is probably as good or better since sigma makes awesome glass but the small size appears to me like a toy lens the tamron is a good size dor a lens would match perfecr on my r7 witch im watching cuz both these lenses are finally being released to the RF mount on canon so i wanted to see the reviewd on both these lenses since im sure opticalu they will be equal to the RF versions. Thabks for the review very nicely done

[@luclaflamme4712]

I really hope Sigma comes out with a small lightweight 50-150 or 50-135 2.8 ...To complete that series

[@adventurepromo]

Microphone was a champ on your walk and talk clips.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

right??

[@Jimmyageek]

Try to do a normal walk when it come to vlogging and please stop about catalyst, I even paid for premium version but still took 1 hour for 3 mins clip on my Asus ROG DUO 16 $3000 laptop

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I am walking normally. You can’t walk fast when vlogging - it looks ridiculous and no mirrorless camera will look good. People are not walking at a fast pace in movies for good reason. I still use catalyst all the time. Many people do. My computer takes 3 minutes for one minute of footage. What you want is an action cam - you’ll never be satisfied with cameras if you’re going to walk carelessly and briskly

[@Jimmyageek]

​@@MarkBennettCameraCrisisare you serious ? Only 3 mins? Please make a video on catalyst

[@jntechreview]

How do you always know exactly what content I was looking for?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

you can buy thoughts from Google now.

[@geopapa80]

First!🎉

[@landonbailey]

I have the Tamron and I'm happy with it. I just need to get a camera

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

there’s a good one from Kodak

[@silencemo5742]

This volume and weight, I would definitely choose Sigma, after all, go out to travel or landscape photography, it is certainly easy to carry is the best choice!

[@spaezpes]

"they both feel really good in the hand or wherever else you like to put them" XD

[@johannesl.6850]

Hi Mark, what about sun stars?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

actually really comparable and good on both. don’t have any sun here right now to test 😂

[@stefanroller5019]

Thanks so much for comparing these two lenses. I think you are one of the first doing this even though it's so obvious to compare these two lenses. I own already the Tamron 18-300mm for APSC as an over all travelling lens but thinking of a wide angle zoom to complete the set (not talking about some primes as Zeiss Touit 32, Zeiss Batis 25 and a Samyang 12). Thank you for helping me in deciding.

[@gunjitsingh2709]

So what did you fnally decide on ? and how's your experience ?

[@stefanroller5019]

@@gunjitsingh2709 For the moment being I decided to stick to the Tamron super zoom in combination with the primes. It's also due to the still high price that I didn't decide.

[@LearnREPhotography]

Sheesh! The difference in edge sharpness is wild at 6:56

[@SuchContent]

I use the Sigma on 40MP Fuji, it ist a geat lens. Thank you for the review!

[@Mr_762]

im trying to make a hard decision between sony 11m f1.8 or this lense the sigma 10-18mm f2.8 someone please help !!!

[@gamadrid]

I'm just thinking the same thing. I bought the 11mm before, and for real estate videography, and vlogging it is wonderful, but for landscaping or street photography, I definitely need to change lenses. I can't justify having both, so I have to make a difficult decision sony 11mm vs sigma 10-18mm. Someone help us.

[@Mr_762]

i guess ima have to take one for the team as they say ! lol 😂@@gamadrid

[@gamadrid]

I finally sold the Sony 11mm, now the question is Tamron or Sigma. But I know I'm going to enjoy an ultra-wide-angle zoom more. @@Mr_762

[@penarealestate]

Needed to see this. Great review. - Thank you!

[@mamunoz23]

🙌🏽🙌🏽great vid as always. What if we throw a tokina 11-18 2.8 in the mix😬.

[@alififinra]

I am very confused between sigma 10-18 + sigma 18-50 or tamron 11-20 + tamron 17-70 needs for architecture, travel, landscape photography. Do you have any suggestions on which one should I choose? Thanks 🙏🏻

[@daishum000]

10-18 and 17-70 should be good enough.

[@HeikosGarage]

Hey Mark, have you ever tried the Tokina 11-18 F2.8 and maybe thought of comparing it to Sigma and Tamron? I am in the market for an ultrawide zoom eight now. What do you think?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I haven’t tried that one - but I will try to get it in

[@HeikosGarage]

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you. I'd appreciate your opinion before I pull the trigger. It seems to be a bit cheaper than the Sigma. There is really no comparison to the Sigma out there.

[@Alex_564]

I like that the Tamron goes to 20mm, but the Sigma looks better for landscape work. Really what I want for landscape is an 10-25mm F3.5. I assume neither of these have OIS?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

neither has OIS

[@mediaproimmo]

Thank you for this review ! I was about to buy the Tamron when Sigma released this one. I rented the tamron for a Real Estate shooting with my Sony A6300, love it !! I'll check to rent the Sigma one, Sigma lenses are so nice 🤩

[@1ShotNas]

Def needed this didnt onow tge sigma existed

[@MARK-wt9cd]

I already have sigma 18-50, need that 10-18.

[@mapsreview1507]

251, 255, 270 grams. which is it?

[@dccoletrain]

I thought about the Sigma but for a little more you can get that Pocket 3 and not stand out as much….😂

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

Yes - looks like a fun device for sure

[@youritguy1]

Another great video as always. I'm a Sigma man so I would definitely get my hands this one :) Thank you for the video review.

[@BarryJohnson]

🤔, tough choice

[@zenphotocraftmedia8326]

I saw a KZbin review on the 11 20 tamron the lens has focus breathing in focus for video is bit slow in video . Is it true

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

it does have some focus breathing as I demonstrated in the video. The focus is fine in video.

[@MacroEyesFilm]

How does the sigma stack up against the Tokina 11-18mm f2.8?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I haven’t reviewed the tokina yet

[@boldyo]

The Sigma really kicks you in the bokeh balls.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

right in there!!

[@robdelurey1302]

I noticed you were using the Ulanzi mic. If you were using the zve10 what audio settings (preamp level) would you use in camera and what gain on Ulanzi mic. I always seem to come up a little low in audio levels when I publish. Even seeing the camera levels at -12db. Cheers.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I usually set the Sony to 7 and the default for the ulanzi

[@robdelurey1302]

Thanks Mark.

[@xhenriquefps]

both lenses look great. I would get the cheaper one 😅 Thanks for the video mark!

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

smart!!

[@rafter00]

hi mark, a comparison between the zve10 and the new dji osmo pocket 3 will be very much appreciated. Cheers from The Phillipines!

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

looking into it

[@rafter00]

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks mark

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Great lens comparison. I have to say I was also impressed with the Ulanzi wireless mic recording in your outdoor shot. Did you treat the Ulazni recording in post? Or was it straight out of camera? Either way, for $99 USD, the Ulanzi is pretty good,

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

Straight outta cam!!

[@AllThingsFilm1]

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I'm tempted to get it. But, I own so many wireless kits. :)

[@IvanGRANID]

Great video! thank You!

[@johnfilipstad]

When shooting with video with the sigma, can you use the camera's zoom lever to zoom in/out or has it to be done only through the lens' zoom ring? Asking because it is more difficult to use the ring when using a gimbal.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

you can only use the zoom rocker with a power zoom like the Sony 10-20

[@johnfilipstad]

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks for the speedy reply!! Love your videos btw!

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video Mark! Thanks for making it. Factually, I know that I need to add a telephoto to my kit. That doesn't seem to stop me from buying nothing but wide angles though. Funny, that.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

😂me too

[@justlivication]

Watching this video again... I really can't get over how much better the active stabilization is with the Sony 11mm. I have only used 3rd party lenses (aside from the kit lens, which I rarely use) and I feel like I'm always fighting that slight amount of jarring that active stabilization can't reduce, especially when I'm gathering b-roll in a time-sensitive shoot. I'd be curious to see a video comparing native lenses vs. 3rd party for stabilization.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

yes - it is better on active for sure - I'll try to do a video on it soon

[@justlivication]

I think it would be interesting! A real world comparison! Just re-watching the sony 11 vs tamron 11-20 video, you have it on a gimbal and it's obviously way smoother. I'm trying to rig my camera out so it can go from studio to gimbal/b-roll gathering in a flash. Cheers!@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis

[@petersuvara]

Vlogging in your 40s, and you wonder why you feel so naughty :D

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I’m young at heart - and immature

[@petersuvara]

@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I only started vlogging in my 40s ... it's what you do when you decide you love cameras and lenses... :)

[@NOTHINGXX1]

I know, im here for Mark gorgeous with perfect content

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

🤣

[@AmitK.98]

Congratulation for 50k subs Mark!! Love your content...

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

🎉

[@leodileodileo]

Please give one of the two for 200€/$/£

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I don’t own either of these lenses - loaned copies

[@leodileodileo]

i was kidding 200 buck is far less then the actual price. I will buy the sigma once I find a good deal.@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis

[@kmaamk1620]

You are frickin hilarious

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

😂

[@吾-e2x]

wow 😍the video I've been waiting for

[@jhirse3547]

Mark, thank you for the highly entertaining review! It's a nice move of Sigma to give the 10-18mm at least one "weak" point compared to the Tamron, which would be the close-up center sharpness 😉But to be honest, without Tamron's 11-20mm there might be no Sigma 10-18mm, so thanks Tamron for going ahead, and showing Sigma what works on the market (😉 emoji, again). I finally sold my Sony 11mm F1.8 today, and am now waiting for the Sigma 10-18mm to arrive. Seems there's a bit of order backlog on the 10-18, at least here in Germany...

[@joshuaaruiz]

Why’d you sell your 11mm tho?

[@jhirse3547]

@@joshuaaruiz It's an excellent lens. But I almost never used it. The 10-18mm is far more flexible and I assume I will use it much more. Also I don't have the budget to have 1200€ of ultra wide angle lenses laying around ;)

[@gamadrid]

Some time later, as has been your use of the sigma 10-18mm, I have the Sony 11mm and I would like to know if it is a good idea to change it for the sigma. @@jhirse3547

[@tiltedbybox6118]

Mark, is it possible to take black background photos without an actual black background or flash?

[@DDavEE]

The iPhone camera’s Portrait Mode has a Stage Light option that can do that.

[@tiltedbybox6118]

@@DDavEE I rather buy a flash than an iphone

[@Tonyrizk13]

Yes

[@tiltedbybox6118]

@@Tonyrizk13 How?

[@Tonyrizk13]

@@tiltedbybox6118 in photoshop or in Lightroom or using a bright enough constant light

[@Tonyrizk13]

Can you do a comparison between the Rokinon 12mm f2 and the Sony 11mm?

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

the Sony 11 is much better, but costs a lot more. if you’re just vlogging, the Rokinon will do the job, but the Sony also works better with electronic stabilization but for best quality and especially for photos, and better stabilization, go for the Sony.