Canon 11-22mm is for daytime vlogging and the 16mm Sigma is for evening indoor vlogging. There you go, a plan use both everyday.
@Cjbrown2x Жыл бұрын
That part keep it simple as that
@SuperYachtCaptain4 жыл бұрын
I also use the 11-22 but just ordered the Sigma 16mm for my low light needs and to get the shallow depth of field. Great video.
@MrPacoArespacochaga4 жыл бұрын
I bought the 16mm for night/low light vlogging. The 11-22mm will still be my main vlogging lens.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Good setup. That's how I like to use them as well.
@JoelK4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I've been feeling. Makes me almost travel sick watching the 16mm with such a shallow depth of field, especially outsode. The 11mm shows the environment you're in, which seems more 'natural' to my eye, like a normal face to face conversation view. Sigma looks awesome for low light, colour, and detail though. I've mostly used my kit 15mm on my M50, but got my old 22mm out the other day too. 15mm is a good all rounder IMO. Thanks for your video!
@Am3du3 жыл бұрын
Sigma 16mm shows the environment too, if you want exactly like the 11mm just increase to F.4
@markwiemels4 жыл бұрын
Well, you may have sold me on using the 11-22 again, the image was clearly softer, but that overall effect of the wider view was better.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. For vlogging in good light, it's hard to beat.
@geekytechycool4 жыл бұрын
If you're vlogging with the M50, I'd agree that the Canon lens "feels" better in this specific video. I picked up the Sigma because I plan to use it in a home office/studio setting so I can manage that distance
@lumidayy34284 жыл бұрын
Looks like I’ll be buying the canon 11-22mm lens and the stigma 16mm lens 😂
@DanielLiwanag4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about these two lenses..I now just vlog with the 11-22mm and use the Sigma 16mm for talking heads..16mm is just too tight & a bit heavy for vlogging.. I wish they come out with a 10mm or 11mm F1.4 prime lens that is specifically made just for vlogging with this system.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
That was something I meant to mention in this video. I've been looking around at 12mm prime EF-M lenses, but they don't have autofocus. Can be worked around by always using the same focal point and "stick" position, but...what a pain. I'm totally with you. I think the ultimate vlogging lens would be a 10, 11, or 12mm f/1.4 prime with autofocus. That would be amazing.
@DanielLiwanag4 жыл бұрын
Todd Dominey totally agree with u..canon should listen 😂
@YourMajesty1434 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a rumor that Canon is coming out with a 15 mm f1.4 or f1.8 (I forget, just know that it's a fast lens)? Also, a few other lenses they're planning to release, so patience is a virtue. Canon also is changing the game by coming out with a web-cam software (a CamLink killer) which will place them as the new go-to camera brand for vloggers & streamers.
@DanielLiwanag4 жыл бұрын
YourMajesty143 unfortunately that software only works for Windows atm
@YourMajesty1434 жыл бұрын
@@DanielLiwanag - Oh that's too bad, but it is still in beta testing stage, it may hopefully offer an option for Mac.
@RaySuesTravelChannel3 жыл бұрын
Todd nice video. Your premise captures exactly the dilemma that most M50 users with the kit lens at 15-45mm have. The 11-22 is a lovely lens and of course retains the image stabilisation and stepper motor benefits.. But it suffers exactly the same issues as the kit lens in low light. In my humble opinion, those seeking the super shallow depth, buttery background and fast focusing of the sigma 16mm are unlikely to go for another lens which exhibits the very limitations that the kit lens has. 11mm is not far away from 15mm. The Sigma coupled with the 15-45mm kit lens is much more of a quality and value proposition with many more beneits than the 11-22mm with the kit lens. Take care, stay safe and healthy Todd. Ray
@nicoletiana2 жыл бұрын
I have the Canon M50 along with the 10-18mm wide angle lens. Beautiful camera!!!!!
@HealthySyrus4 жыл бұрын
Sir do we need adapter for Sigma 16mm lens to connect to M50 camera ?
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
You do not need an adapter if you purchase the EF-M version of the lens. Make sure when buying the lens that it is “EF-M” and not micro four thirds or Sony.
@esperandoelrender4 жыл бұрын
I think the people is miss understanding whats for the 16mm.. definitely isnt for vlog, in terms of sometimes in vlog you want to see the vlogger, but also whats around him, whats happening around him you know; and with the 16mm you are just losing this option ideal for vlog BUT, I think 16mm can be a monster for vlogs where you just put the camera in some interesting and cool place and you just find yourplace for get a high detailed image quality. But for walking and talking definitely the 11-22 or 10-18 are just the monsters for it. 16 is just an improve of quality for some shots and thats it
@Am3du3 жыл бұрын
16mm has no Aperture range? I thought all you need to get more background is simply increasing your Fstop 🤔
@KonnorGann4 жыл бұрын
If you’re vlogging, definitely go with the 11-22 it feels much better as a viewer
@Dj_Jwoo2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the video I was looking for! Thank you! I bought the 16mm for my m50 and was struggling to justify it after the fact. I love the 11-22 look but LOVE the blur you get with the 16. Lol! One of the comments below really made up my mind. 11-22 day, 16 night. Thanks again!
@Paul_Greenwood3 жыл бұрын
This video is really helpful. I agree about the 11-22mm, looks better in the setting you’re in, serious contender for next lens. Thanks 🙏🏻
@JimmyOlsson3 жыл бұрын
I have a Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM with a EOS M - EF adapter which is a perfect combo for vlogging in daylight with the M50 and a much cheaper solution than the Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4.0-5.6 IS STM if you get a third party adapter (I have the original as I got it really cheap but the third party adapters works generally just as fine). Just a tip! I've just ordered the Sigma 16mm f/1.4 EF-M (today actually) and can't wait to try it out for indoors- and landscape/portrait photography!
@galindovisita64822 жыл бұрын
I think depends on your body frame also I use my main sigma 18-300 day time vlogging,,, sometimes I even use 24 mm canon and it is greeat, ,,, I am a small guy and it helps. So if you are a small person tye 16 mm is perfect for you !!
@carlosnavarro13654 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I actually just got the Sigma 16mm for my Canon M50. Question: How does the 11-22 compare to the kit lenses on the Canon M50. Curious to know how these exact shots you took would look like between the two.
@Numb3r_474 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Great video!
@Iamernestp3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this info! I just ordered the efm 11-22! I almost canceled and went with 16mm but now I see I made the right choice. I also have the cheaper 22 f2. Thank you! The sigma looks good but that’s why I upgraded from kit lens lol. I wanted wider FOV
@CaptainCory4 жыл бұрын
Probably skip the 11-22 for me and buy the adapter and put my 10-22 EF-S on but I’m still goons pick up the sigma. That low light is fire
@MikeWangCoaching4 жыл бұрын
I'm a new content creator on KZbin. I bought the Sigma 16mm after watching your initial review! I also have the Canon 11-22. I've also been debating which lens to use as my primary. I really like how wide the view is with the Canon 11-22. I'm leaning towards going back to using that as my main lens. And then using the Sigma 16mm for when I want shallower depth of field or am filming in low light.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. I love the color and image quality of the Sigma 16mm, and at first it seems to perform really well for vlogging, but over time it starts getting heavy and a bit tight.
@MikeWangCoaching4 жыл бұрын
@@dominey Thanks for your updated thoughts in this video!
@womanandthesoul3 жыл бұрын
Hi Todd... I have canon m50 with the nifty fifty..i used it for cooking video at home but i didnt show my face...its just ny hands... So.. Should I choose the sigma 16 mm? Or can you recommend me anothet lens that can level up my cooking video as an additional to the nifty fifty? Thank you before!
@viviparis87784 жыл бұрын
I agree too. I've purchased the 11-22 because the kit lens (15-45) wasnt wide enough. The 11-22 is great outdoor or with good light conditions. It's light, small, has IS, and makes a beautiful image IMO. I'll stick with it for vlogging. But I've also bought the 30mm 1.4 Sigma wich is for other purposes and I'm very happy with it
@Melissadacruzz3 жыл бұрын
What are you using the 30mm for?!
@viviparis87783 жыл бұрын
@@Melissadacruzz it's an allaround lens. Great for portrait, video, reportage... it's a 50 mm FF. You can use this lens for everything
@markdouglas80734 жыл бұрын
Todd, I am apparently one of your cousins in Texas. You helped me decide not to get the Sigma for now but instead I will pick up the Canon lens for my M50.
@adrenalfilms4 жыл бұрын
My favorite reviewer on YT right now. Hi sir, did you colorgrade this video?
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I color graded this only to match footage between lenses. Believe it or not they look rather different even on the same body.
@JeffRandallDrumming4 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd, were you hand holding the camera in your demonstrations or did you have it mounted on a gorilla-pod or something like that? Those tend to give you a bigger reach so I’m curious. Thanks for the great content man!
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. And yes, I typically use either a Gorillapod or a lightweight tripod with the legs pressed against my upper thigh. The latter is a little more comfortable than carrying all the weight in your arm.
@JeffRandallDrumming4 жыл бұрын
Todd Dominey thanks
@JohnArmwood4 жыл бұрын
I have been vlogging on mu M50 with the 11-22m for a year and a half. The Sigma looked like a very nice lens but it did not seem to be a good vlogging lens for an APC camera due to its focal length.
@AivarsMeijers4 жыл бұрын
Well unfortunately but I have to agree with you. "Unfortunately" because I also bought 16mm for m6M2 :) I love depth of field and love light performance in Sigma, but will have very hard time to chose between 16mm and stabilised 10-18mm when will pack backpack for the next trip.
@Pagesthroughlife3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video !! I was about to pull the plug and buy the Sigma lens.... ill probably buy the canon lens first then the sigma
@sometimesrex4 жыл бұрын
Your right, the Sigma 16 other then it being a low light beast, the 11-22mm rather suits for vlogging a whole lot better.
@KRUChY_804 жыл бұрын
I think that Sigma looks like documentary film not like vlog. Youre getting more cinematic, more intyme, personal relation with 16mm lens. I want to focus more on subject and on Canon 11mm it more like cool chat, more entertainmet.
@KRUChY_804 жыл бұрын
If U re Vloging from hand, 16mm is not wide, but put Your camera on Siru tripod or something better than Gorilla... and it's wide enough :)
@losvideosdeluis14 жыл бұрын
I wish to heard this video 3 days before, I saw your previous video and I decided to buy the sigma 16mm and now I see that it is better for me the 11-22, I bought it because I'm going to travel to South America for vacation in 2 days , no time to change, I wanted angle lens, I hope sigma works well for my... Excellent videos!!!!
@SusanClarkeatenterin4 жыл бұрын
José Colchado And the real question is... Were youable to go on your trip? If not, hope you had time to decide on changing out the lens.
@ThorenTravels4 жыл бұрын
The 16mm @ F2, or even F2.8, looks awesome in urban environments. The bokeh really isn't being taken advantage of in this video. Overall the 11-22mm is more practical, but for daytime it might be easier to just get a GoPro 7/8 instead which has more detail and stabilization in 4k.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
True. I’ve been thinking the same regarding GoPros and Osmos. I own an Osmo Pocket and it performs quite well in the daytime.
@Linteria4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. I'm waiting on a Canon m6 mk2 plus an 11-22mm lens to arrive in the mail, but i've been shooting on a Hero 8 for months and it's probably the most underrated and affordable vlogging camera there is right now. Its hypersmooth 2.0 stabilization is probably better than any mirrorless or DSLR brand out there, IMO. I got the M6II to get back into photography, though, so that wide lens will provide some great landscape shots as well as a higher res alternative to the GoPro. Also plan to use both for a dual cam setup when in my home studio.
@lafasvlog3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir todd before i like the sigma but after this i must buy canon 11-22mm
@trymonster66704 жыл бұрын
if i dont vlog would i be better off 56mm f1.4 instead of the 16mm f1.4? i just want to be able to pull out my camera without worrying too much about lightening .. indoor light to take videos of my kids
@mirrorlessmemory4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was starting to feel the same. 16mm is just too tight, especially if I turn on EIS. I still have my kit lens which imo is underrated but still considering buying 11-22 now.
@Cjbrown2x Жыл бұрын
True I love the sigma for portraits
@ryangenova38343 жыл бұрын
What mic were using in this video? And did you make any audio adjustments to it while editing?
@peterstagg54933 жыл бұрын
Great follow-up video to your lens review on the Sigma 16mm. In my ultimate flogging bag I have three Canon M 50s; one on a three axis gimbal with a 22 pancake lens, another on the carbon fibre tripod with a 55-200 and the famous Casey Neistat vlogging lens 11-22 on my Joby 3K Pro (you’ve also got to have variable ND’s to fit every lens), Mavic mini (with 8, 16, 32, 64 nd’s) and GoPro (especially for underwater). Plus Wireless Go and Shure VP83 lens hopper for clean audio. Oh, and a matchbox size led. The best part is all this gear fits in a bag on my back. Unbelievable!. I love all of the Sigma lenses for more serious filmmaking projects I think they would be awesome. Keep up the good work mate Peace 👍
@jorgiewtf4 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. I may have to spring for an 11-22 sometime soon. I just don’t blog all that much.
@leosmithphotovideo39444 жыл бұрын
Hi Todd-- -- I really appreciated your 2 reviews about the sigma 30mm -- especially that the Canon's Digital IS works with it (I had originally thought that it only worked with certain canon ef-m lenses). Quick question - I really like the color grading of your footage - are you using the Canon Neutral profile setting, and then grading in post? many thanks and best wishes, leo.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You know...I can't decide with Canon profiles. I started with Neutral, then made my own version of Neutral to get it more "log like", then by accident filmed something with Standard and thought...damn! The colors look great! (lol). I'm now experimenting with a customized version of Standard with less Sharpening because the M50 adds too much for my taste. With color grading, I tend to keep things simple with small exposure adjustments, lifting blacks just a little, and using one of the built-in Kodak/Fuji LUTs in Premiere dialed-down to around 30-50% intensity. Hope that helps!
@truecall80323 жыл бұрын
Anyone tell both of them which is good for photography not for vlogging
@thinkvlog_4life5034 жыл бұрын
I have the Canon 10-18mm Wide Angle Lens and I am 110% Happy with it.. Using the Lens on my Canon m50.. Its Super Wide lol
@MinimalWave19824 жыл бұрын
This is why the Canon 11-22 is a better vlog lens: 1. wider angle you see more of the background which is important for outside vlogs 2. Les shakier image due to the image stabilsation of the lens which the sigma is lacking, and also a wider angle just by itself causes less shakier images! 3. Its way lighter than the sigma
@Praxiszooms3 жыл бұрын
I see it exactly as you are!
@mobilefreelancer38313 жыл бұрын
what luts do you use my friend do you sell the similar look?
@currentlykent45934 жыл бұрын
Very well done. I’ve just got an m50 recently. Kit lens and nifty 50 with a speed booster. Most videos I’ll be making are tech related so that’s what I’m looking for. The Canon lens in this vlog was a clear winner for my eye👍
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bagginz75084 жыл бұрын
Bear in mind that using the digital image stabilisation crops the video image in. Using the enhanced IS crops the image in even further.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
True true
@jovanmajs87054 жыл бұрын
I am confused now, I can go for only one lense, which one shall I pick? Sigma 16mm or Canon 11-22? Please advise, I’d use it mainly for indoor educational videos and for outdoor stills
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Jovan - the Sigma would perform better for indoor educational videos because of its large maximum aperture. Way better low light performance than the Canon 11-22, which needs a fair amount of light to look good. For outdoor stills, the Sigma would still be great. Only time I'd recommend the 11-22 would be for vlogging or as a "travel" lens when you want flexibility.
@jovanmajs87054 жыл бұрын
Todd Dominey Thank you so much for the reply, I went with Sigma 16mm and also took Tiffen ND variable to prevent too much light during sunny day it works just great.
@chasingquality54254 жыл бұрын
Canon's 11-22mm is simply a far more versatile lens than the 16mm. While the smaller aperture can be an issue for low-light, one has to ask, "What am I truly using this lens for?" At that focal length, you won't be doing portraits and it's (IMHO) too wide and fixed for general walkabout, yet the 11-22 does give you enough range that you could use it in a variety of situations. I think that IS is an incredibly important factor for vlogging, and the 11-22's stabilization is superb; the Sigma has none. So, with the Sigma 16mm, you can use the M50's digital stabilization, but the additional crop on the M50 will increase the focal length to the point where it's uncomfortably up in your face. Additionally, if you want some of the background to actually appear with enough clarity, you won't be wide open at 1.4 anyway, instead you'll step down the aperture, getting closer to the 11-22's max aperture. I personally think that 16mm fixed is just too restrictive. Not wide enough for real estate, not long enough for portraits, not stabilized for vlogging. If Sigma had made it 12 or 14mm with optical stabilization, boom...it would be perfect. For me, it simply wouldn't cut it for vlogging.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Awesome perspective. Thank you for sharing this! I totally agree on your final point. If Sigma made a prime wide angle with autofocus and stabilization, it would be the best vlogging lens around.
@Tacochamp1234 жыл бұрын
The 11-22 gives good context. Especially if you’re outside. But at night the 16 is gonna rule. I’ve been considering moving up to the rp and grabbing the sigma 24 1.4.
@samossio49874 жыл бұрын
The colors and sharpness of the sigma are just in another level... but with the canon you can feel like an immersive sensation and i guess is one of the reasons of vloggin in the first place 🙂
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It was such a pain color grading the Canon 11mm footage to match the Sigma. Sigma footage had better colors and detail.
@samossio49874 жыл бұрын
I can imagine!!! 😬 could be a great idea for a video... "cinematic color grading on entry level camera" 😀
@Tacochamp1234 жыл бұрын
Hey neighbor! I’m in Woodstock. Need to check this place out.
@kobeopoku86834 жыл бұрын
How would it fare if you decided to place a Viltrox speedbooster with the sigma 16mm
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Would probably work well with 4k video, for then you'd be removing nearly all of the crop.
@midnight_snacks4 жыл бұрын
If you had to choose only 1, which would it be?
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Ugh! So hard to say! I mentioned this in another comment, but the IDEAL lens would be the wide focal length of the 11-22mm and the aperture of the Sigma 16mm WITH autofocus. That would be a dream.
@midnight_snacks4 жыл бұрын
@@dominey I'm saving up for my next lense and it's between those 2. I've been flip flopping, but I think I'm set on the sigma and maybe think about the 11-22 after I have the sigma trio.
@hellpuppy55124 жыл бұрын
What should be the first lens I get for m50 planing to do pictures of animals and vloging on family trips
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Hell Puppy I would recommend starting with the Canon 11-22 EF-M. You can get just the M50 body without its kit lens and save a little bit of money.
@hellpuppy55124 жыл бұрын
Todd Dominey just got it thank you a lot I’m in love with it !:)
@DasKeitherz4 жыл бұрын
For me at least, I think the IS for the 11-22 is the bigger factor for vlogging. your opening scene with the 16 was way too jittery for me to focus on what was happening. Not to mention the wider FOV makes jitters slightly less noticeable. For a good day like this I actually prefer to have more DOF to see your beautiful backgrounds more clearly but I can see where some specific scenes you might want the shallower DOF of the 16. Might be interesting to compare how the 11-22 @16mm performs with IS against sigma too.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is what happens unfortunately when your elbow naturally slacks. The lens gets way to close and you have to flatten your arm to get the 16mm far enough away.
@RovingChestnut4 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a Sigma 16mm f1.4 for my Canon M50, having previously used the stock 15-45mm zoom I’m loving what this delivers and the translation of my footage makes me very impressed so much so I’m getting the 56mm next! 😎👍🏻
@MangKres6 ай бұрын
But the depth of field of sigma looks more professional.
@maplestreetpictures74543 жыл бұрын
The rendering of light and colour is better on the sigma
@luciferenfer67284 жыл бұрын
I understand you all have the same problem for vlogging with less angle or DOF if using the Sigma. BUT.... What IF.....there is no vlogging but straight Blogging ??? If i want to do video where i dont have to really move and just the upper body.....and put the camera 6 or maybe 10 feet away ....you can surely have the better Field of View with the Sigma Right ??
@Linteria4 жыл бұрын
Vlogging is blogging, though, because vlogging = video blogging. Sounds like you're referring to talking head-style youtube videos, and in either case all of these aspects mentioned in the video should apply. Not sure what you mean by "better field of view" really. The shorter focal length of the 11-22mm will provide a wider angle with less bokeh (background blur), while the longer focal length of the sigma 16mm will seem more "zoomed in" on your face with a blurrier background and tighter frame, as seen in the video. But during low light situations, the sigma's wider aperture of f/1.4 will let in more light than the canon's smaller aperture of f/4.0. Each lens has its advantages in different situations. Hope this helps!
@tomparfitt30384 жыл бұрын
I think it's situational for example in this video I think the wider field of view from the 11mm is perfect because the weather was overcast and the back drop was relatively simple so depth of field didn't really play a huge role but I think if you were in a more colourful street or forest environment in future videos the Sigma would be my preferred choice to really show off that depth of field.
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Great feedback. Thanks Tom.
@user-fm5cs4ix9k4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Kyiv Ukraine. The 11 to 22 gives a better environmental and vlogging experience than the Sigma.
@ThatGuyAl1554 жыл бұрын
a 10mm f/1.4 would be absolutely killer for vlogs
@dominey4 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt
@samuelquinn41594 жыл бұрын
The 11-22 tells a better story in terms of your surroundings.
@jackpotrules3 жыл бұрын
The sigma is noticeably better looking. The cannon looks like an iPhone video IMO
@Decodingfashion_3 жыл бұрын
You can never be satisfied if you are looking for wider focal. the wider you go for vlogging, you will have bloated nose effect.
@joeldiaz1414 жыл бұрын
The 16 mm looks more like a 35 mm thanks to the crop sensor. But it's not that bad actually for vlogging. For sure the 11 to 22 is better for vlogging on the m50 crop sensor but they're both good either way, thanks for the vid.
@JulianGuevaraphoto3 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is put it in a gorilla pod to hold it out further.