Sigma 20mm F2 DG DN Review

[@noenken]

2:45 You can see how the distortion is warping here. I've noticed the same thing on the 24mm, the profile correction in C1 actually changes throughout the focus range.

[@jordanwheatley602]

I'm always glad to hear about any focus breathing, it's not just for video! Focus stacking for wide angle landscapes are annoyingly affected by focus breathing. Thanks guys!

[@dannyli9424]

Yeah, focus stacking, if you asked me, this is a pretty bad lens for landscape if you a lot of focus stacking, and he never even mentioned the massive massive distortion and the heavy vignette if you do a lot of interior and architecture, the two biggest take away from this lens.

[@sigmaphoto]

Many thanks to Chris and Jordan for checking out the new lens!

[@luisneumannp2748]

what camera did you shoot the video with? It looks... weird

[@Biring1]

Maybe a yet unannounced camera? My bet is on a new phone or something.

[@luisneumannp2748]

@@Biring1 I hope it's ta phone. Because if this is GH6 footage... yikes. looks way worse than the last episode, which was shot on the fx3

[@mylhainen]

@@luisneumannp2748 yeah man that looked awful! Like it had some sort of a beauty filter on.

[@MudvayneS10]

Yes... the skin ... is soften in a very bad way...

[@djelectric]

Looks womewhere between an action cam and a high end smartphone

[@MudvayneS10]

I am german and that village is 80% wild west and maybe 20% bavarian 🤣

[@insane7818]

Schöner nickname 🙃

[@MudvayneS10]

@@insane7818 Danke

[@mwkoala]

More like 95% and 5% 😂 no way I would say "yep, looks like Bavaria to me" when visiting it.

[@andreasgiobel6355]

It looked artificial, with feeling of “WestWorld” on a lower budget

[@JeffreyHauser]

Hi Chris & Jordan. Thank you for the Sigma 20mm Len’s review. I am a fan of your Wotancraft Pilot bag. I have this & the Wotancraft Trooper. I believe they are some of the best camera bags in the industry. Thank you both for all of the great videos that you share with the photo/video community. Cheers!

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

Waiting for Viltrox 13mm f1.4 review for X or E mount.

[@echoauxgen]

VERY Honest Review!! If you have a Sony save your dollars a little longer for the f/1.8 for at $900 you will get pin point stars!!!

[@YakAlmighty]

I wouldn't say that focus breathing isn't a big deal in still especially when it comes to shooting landscapes since if you try to do focus stacking with a lens like this that breathes hard it would be next to impossible.

[@joezuu]

Not next to impossible, just annoying. I've done tons of focus stacks with heavily breathing lenses. You just have to make sure you do your framing where the fov is narrowest, which may be at the closest focusing distance.

[@mattdebyl8806]

The majority of breathing happens going from close focus (in this case really rather close) to infinity. Not much occurs when going from say a few meters to infinity. This is something people seem to forget when talking about breathing.

[@trym2121]

Not impossible but just a lot of crop. Sony introduced new breathing correction feature which is a handy but unfortunately only for selected cameras and lenses

[@T0ly113]

Most stacking software has no problem with it, what are you talking about

[@EduardoPortasRuiz]

If this video was shot with either the new GH6 or Olympus' new camera, I have to say those skin tones look very weird indeed. Anyone else notice this? It seems like cell-phone quality smoothing on the faces ramped up to 100.

[@marin_real_estate_photography]

Yeah, skin tones were really bad. Hoping they were testing a phone or action cam and not either the GH6 nor the OM Wow Camera.

[@chanjeff4406]

@@marin_real_estate_photography It's the OM Wow Camera

[@Indrakusuma_a]

Is it just me or the video color grading seems a bit off? Like the overall tone is a bit too warm, the colors look washed out and the highlight might be a bit too low or less contrast?

[@bose80085]

skin tones in many scenes looks weird

[@npmrc]

Why his skin is so mushy? Was this episode filmed with a smartphone?

[@ovidijuspocius6336]

CAN'T WAIT FOR THOSE SIGMA+FUJI REVIEWS

[@leoyan4847]

Shot on S22?

[@begr_wiedererkennungswert]

It was shot on the new OM-1 pre production.

[@Noojtxeeg]

So... This was shot on the new Olympus camera wasn't it? The white balance seemed very off :/

[@MLee-vcrr]

Great review. Some other reviewers pointed out excessive vignetting and barrel distortion but they were testing on Sony E-mount cameras. Is it possible the L-mount version has a better correction profile?

[@jensdanbolt6953]

It shouldn't matter for the lens review; distortion and vignette can always be removed in post, at a certain cost in noise and resolution in the affected areas. The lens has the qualities and flaws that it has, independent of which edits you or an algorithm choose to do in post.

[@mattdebyl8806]

DPR have changed their testing regime to include in camera corrections which better mimics real world usage. As more and more lenses are designed specifically to take advantage of camera corrections.

[@MonicaHolly143]

@@jensdanbolt6953 other reviews pointed out that the vignet is still there even after editing

[@rsmith02]

@@MonicaHolly143 In what software?

[@williamgoss4691]

Good comprehensive run-thru of the 20mm lens, Thks.

[@cyrilhamel8289]

Since you didn't say which camera it was filmed on, I suppose we just had our first preview of Panasonic's GH6... 😬😁

[@kshsbsix]

Hopefully no Probably s22

[@zenonbillings9008]

really appreciate this review chris, I have the panasonic full frame S5 and been looking at purchasing the sigma 20mm f2 but have never had a sigma lens so am a bit unsure about making a purchase.. after seeing your, once again excellent review, I feel confident to make the purchase and add to my L mount lens collection. thx. zen billings

[@lsaideOK]

You don't test for distortion and vignetting? Dustin Abbott does and found the results with this lens quite troubling. Mustachioed barrel distortion and heavy vignetting far into the frame. He advises Sony shooters to get the Sony 20.

[@rsmith02]

Surely it's corrected via profiles.

[@lsaideOK]

@@rsmith02 Heavy vignetting lifted results in visible noise. I don't know if profiles will completely correct the barrel distortion. Definitely not for jpeg shooters.

[@TesseracMedia]

Hey guys, was this episode shot on a phone by any chance?

[@matthewhigbee9744]

I only wish third party offerings would reach out to the Canon RF mount. The Canon STM line is starting to fill out but nothing like some competition and pressure. Option lead to competition and better products and us consumers end up winners.

[@jre617]

Good Chris review, as always. Not a soul in the town, must 7 am on a Sunday.

[@justindsphotos]

Any chance for a Pentax DFA 21mm Ltd review? 😉

[@martinhild]

Watching this gave me an idea. We really need a Canadatown in Germany, that is all hockey and poutine with maple sirup and the people all being friendly. For real tho: what a stunning landscape. Oh and I love your content. Nice reviews. Thanks a lot!

[@victorlolo2008]

Hmm Was Jorden using pre production GH6 to shoot this episode ?

[@CS90]

Any chance of reviewing the 28-75 f2.8 for Nikon Z-mount?

[@stefpix]

It is supposed to be a rebranded, repackaged Tamron first gen 28-75 for Sony.

[@DavidTran-hf3hn]

Would you recommend this or sigma 16mm contemporary for videos ?

[@KevinGannets]

How is this lens in terms of video recording? seems like it would be great for vlogging! I am looking to buy my first camera soon to upgrade from my iPhone 😬

[@sulev111]

how about low light party photography, how's the AF?

[@jeffjohnson2429]

Love your channel. Are you ever going to review the Olympus M.Zuiko 150-400 Pro Lens?

[@jakefelzien]

There was no “shot on” at the beginning of this video…. Any chance you guys already have a GH6? 😏

[@qbgabe12]

it was OM-1

[@jakefelzien]

@@qbgabe12 honestly a bit relieved.

[@memzTV]

I'm undecided between this lens and the Panasonic 24mm F1.8.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Hmm, claiming this lens and the Sony 20mm f1.8 have similar optical performances. You should look at the vignetting and distortion (which makes the lens more like a 22mm lens). Also the bokeh balls are very circular on Sony at f1.8.

[@AoyagiAichou]

Was this recorded with some skin smoothing effect? Or is that just the flat light?

[@CarlBergsdorf]

I would guess the very flat light from it being overcast in pretty much every shot. Edit: Nevermind you might be right. Some people are speculating it might be the new Samsung S22.

[@parshua]

Please tell me this is not shot on GH6 or whatever the new Olympus camera is called, cause it really looks awful.

[@BasketBaLLIsLife3223]

I was just about to comment this same thing. Has me a bit nervous since there wasn't a title screen saying which camera this was shot on like usual.

[@luisneumannp2748]

@@BasketBaLLIsLife3223 Maybe it's the Samsung S22

[@BasketBaLLIsLife3223]

​@@luisneumannp2748 I kind of doubt it. If so, something went horribly wrong with the shooting/grading. My S21 looks better than this.

[@pobutscrackerbox]

The little red dot is for Leica branding. Just add a white "Leica" to the middle in post.

[@PatrickSchraner]

What camera was this video shot with?

[@santi-og3hx]

Can you guys review the sigma 14 to 24 dg dn art lens for e mount?

[@zacredacted2137]

Shot on Gh6?

[@sambrumley_productions]

Although it's not in the same category, I would like to see how the Sigma 20mm F2 compares to the Panasonic 20-60mm kit lens at 20mm

[@bose80085]

4:53 shot on iPhone? else whats wrong with the skin?

[@Sabbra]

Hey guys, can you ask gently to sigma corp when the hell they gonna work with z mount?

[@jordanfish]

I wonder how this compares visually to the Viltrox S (a manual lens so quite different)

[@VicenteSchmitt]

Did I miss the usual "shot with..." at the beginning of the video? My guess is GH6 is already on Jordan's hands

[@RussianBot-0509]

looks like a perfect lens for astrophotography!

[@KiinaSu]

Am I trippin or was this shot on the GH6?

[@npmrc]

I doubt cuz it looks pretty bad, more like a tiny smartphone sensor.

[@KiinaSu]

@@npmrc Nah the dof is to shallow for a phone and the only thing that kinda looks bad is the skin. Wouldn't be surpised if Pana added some skin filter like the Sony Zv-1.

[@luisneumannp2748]

I hope not. This looks horrible

[@origin248]

A bit sad that you guys didn't do any tests in terms of coma, I would imagine these are useful in astrophotography?

[@j16m02]

Check Dustin Abbotts review. Not a detailed examination of coma but he does talk about it

[@JeanV1986]

Check out Christopher Frost's review of the lens that just came out.

[@tinplater]

I still favor the custom button on the Sony, and one can be had used for about the Sigma price.

[@cdriper]

In some video scenes WB is totaly broken

[@JeanV1986]

Indeed I noticed the same. What camera was used?

[@connor56347]

I would love to have this series of lenses on Nikon Z mount

[@JericTamayo]

Came here to see the OM-1 footages that's rec2020 edited on red709. I would like to see how it'll be like when properly graded. But on these footages, it looks erky🤢

[@ziginox]

Damn, that corner sharpness is shockingly impressive!

[@dannyli9424]

So does the distortion and vignette.

[@dannyli9424]

I am really surprised your review never even mention one word about the massive distortion this lens produces as well as the heavy vignette.

[@RexxReviews]

Nothing about this lens makes it stand out against the SONY 20mm 1.8, there is only a small price difference. I think most will stick with SONY.

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

@@ElementaryWatson-123 10%

[@mattdebyl8806]

It mounts on L-Mount. The Sony doesn’t. That’s a pretty big difference.

[@RexxReviews]

@@mattdebyl8806 That only matters to Leica users. So only a small percentage of people. If you’re on a Sony body you’re still better off with Sony lens.

[@mattdebyl8806]

@@RexxReviews 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@AlumarsX]

My heart still prefers the Loxia and CV21

[@DanielBanon128]

Thank you so much for testing this lens on a L-mount camera. Sony E-mount is all anyone talks about...

[@dominiclester3232]

Very good; it's a shame they don't make a Z version for cropped sensor Z cameras...

[@HelmutBemboka]

Ehm - what about Coma? At 20mm, this would be a pretty decent astro-lens...

[@andreasgiobel6355]

I would like to see a DP reviews EYE on drones for PHOTO & VIDEO. Using Sonys AIRPeak vs A selection DJI drones and other with competitors. Using a “used” Phantom would be of great interest, as it still has good specs but are big. Not focusing on drones as total, more focused on Media possibilities and qualities

[@jonsph]

I miss the snow!

[@ulfjonsson2122]

As always, thumbs up, / Ulf

[@3W14]

I'm pretty sure that this video was shot on an iPhone

[@arda.ohannessian]

Do put us out of our misery, please! This episode was shot on...?

[@eguitarstar]

The Panasonic GH6 of course ;)

[@choozzzzchoochoo]

Let me guess, shot with the OM-1😉

[@KOKOBC]

Even though I already have the 20mm 1.8, this lens is probably better value.

[@whygamewhy]

not really, less than 200 dollar cheaper. loses too much. smaller aperture, slower AF, heavier distortion and vignette, slightly lower sharpness in the centre. Not compatible with the Sony camera lens breathing compensation. Worse resale value retention.

[@KOKOBC]

@@whygamewhy yea after watching a comparison video I am happy that I had bought the 20mm 1.8 and not this

[@ScreenFiends]

GH6?....

[@80-80.]

Yes, I believe you are right. This is definitely shot on a preproduction GH6. Unfortunately the blown out background at 2:35 is quite alarming.

[@Simon74]

Classic german things like "house" and "clock".

[@ynotpeanutbutter]

I'm Bavarian and I've never seen a yellow house.

[@halsnyder296]

Wondered why you didn’t compare this to the Nikon 20mm f1.8 Z… looking through your videos, and doing a (worthless) KZbin search, it appears you haven’t reviewed it.

[@bjnslc]

Send that man a bouquet.

[@maxdmachy]

Excellent concise & uplifting review! You could do more lenses! Still, the most outrageous element of the video is the marketing claim - architecture resembling germano-austrian alpine style. Does that mean - Canadian architecture with a super-light, digestible flavor of European tradition - architect has never been to Europe, neither bothered using google images / instagram. Not to mention consulting a book or anything - AI design program keen to be fed with real world data, in order to become usable Any other suggestions? discussion points? Another question about comparison - many Canikon people also own Sony ff bodies. I happen to be one of this crowd. The not very old, highly acclaimed Sigma art f1.4 20mm is available for like 400 USD used, the f2.0 won't offer such prices until the next higher performing model comes out. For me, nuances in image quality on the Sigma art series' level of perfection - can't be bothered. I own & use far worse. I buy such a toy for fun and scenes with people. I also do a lot of landscapes and some architecture . Who tells me to go for top quality? My hero in shooting landscapes is a cinematographer, Bernard Knowles. Who in his great days was not offered anything worth using the word resolution. I am tempted to use a 4 letter ... in front of resolution for what he's left us from the 1930ies. Great art! (Obviously, you could not review according to my standards. The pixel-peeper mafia would kill you, not leave much for your families to be buried. And who on earth should take me seriously?) The art - record luminosity for an ultra wide - quite a temptation. With digital bodies nobody needs f1.4 or faster, agreed. I buy glass for the look, not to produce test charts

[@quangpham4372]

Chris’s skin doesn’t look normal here… Was this shot on a smartphone?

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

why would i want a 20mm, weird focal length only slightly wider than 24.

[@MonicaHolly143]

18mm F2 with 67mm filter will be better since sony's 20 1.8 is so hard to beat

[@shootermcgavin4999]

I'm guessing I can't afford anything in that town.

[@vasilestan]

I was coming here to see the new Sigma 20 mm and.... boom Panasonic camera. No tanks!

[@GUANTA23K]

Skin tones looked awful in the video footage.... 🤔😱 What was going on there Jordan?

[@torinsall]

Not related to the lens, but does anyone else see a distracting effect on Chris's hair? Almost like glinting/flashing hair when he moves his head while talking...am seeing it on both tv and phone screens. Weird.

[@2020-k8v]

I like watching your videos, it allows me to see how beautiful my Wotancraft bag is :)

[@villageblunder4787]

Looks like Cicely

[@Whaever_1981]

*a lot of breathing

[@boryshacker]

i was reading "200mm"... so disappointed

[@christopherfascenelli2454]

is it just me or has Chris' skin tone changed like 6 times in this video? He's green, then pale, then he's orange. Am I seeing things?

[@labinthapa5957]

Sony 20 1.8: ... They tried 😁

[@FlosBlog]

So you are telling me to run with scissors?

[@Mr09260]

Not for me all that distortion I will stick to my faster 20mm f1.8 S lens >> No choma and distortion >> guess its another example of thew Z mount advantage..

[@mattdebyl8806]

Fanboy alert 🚨 You know you can’t get this lens for your Nikon right? Nothing to ‘stick with’ because you can’t possibly change.

[@chandan6119]

shot on phone? skintone looks bad

[@Axonteer]

UwU imagine if canon opend their RF specs to 3rd partys..... instantly you had a plethora of affordable options

[@LuisMarquez80]

62mm filter thread 👎

[@catattackcat8754]

The skin tones look very cartoon in this video.

[@mofi3641]

austrian - german moutain "towns" does not look like that fake town ;) in NO way this is similar. i think it's more like a canadian dream about that, but has nothing to do with the real ones.

[@0yazi]

あ

[@patlecat]

Dude this looks nothing like the German or Austrian alps LOL