ULTIMATE Professions Guide for The War Within - Where to Start, How to Level Quickly & Best Options

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@SignsOfKelani 4 ай бұрын

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@justlikeyourfathersaid 4 ай бұрын

I'm an electrical Engineer and trying to understanding this profession stuff was giving me a headache

@coryscribner1924 Ай бұрын

I’m also a chemical process operator (engineer student) and it gave me stress lol.

@TheGadgetwiz 4 ай бұрын

I've just watched the first moments of the video, and I think I love you. I skipped SF, and I had no idea how to do any of this.

@theR1ch 4 ай бұрын

I don't mind extra complexity, but what I do mind is that the game does a bad job at telling me what the profession stats like "deftness" do. The terms aren't a complete mystery, but I wanted to know, at a glance, what the effects were. Also not being able to have both of my characters able to contribute sparks or artisan's mettle made some of my characters broke when the other was rolling in it.

@lanonaanaa6660 4 ай бұрын

If you hover over them it tells you what it does????

@JoshSweetvale 4 ай бұрын

Less competition.

@Jack_the_Rizzler69 4 ай бұрын

@@JoshSweetvale cope and dilate

@ILovePie53 3 ай бұрын

then they nerf all the already not so good specs to make them worse and longer cooldowns. crazy the flops

@vitannah 4 ай бұрын

This video is amazingly informative!!! Thanks for all your research and reporting. I frankly have been put off with the crafting professions as they just made it too complicated for my style of play.

@ChrisLamm-d7s 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video. Just came back after years and the profession changes are challenging.

@thrawn82 4 ай бұрын

25:20 "That usually only happens with guild and personal orders" naw man, in my experience there was almost always a big set of scam orders that provide no materials and have a very low commision, usually for sought after secondary crafting reagents or consumables.

@TAiiNE 3 ай бұрын

Finally something that goes over not only WHAT prof knowledge is but HOW TO EFFING GET IT. I am so far behind after our guild just said eff it mid shadowlands due to the grind and most quit the game. I'm the only one who came back just at the end of dragonflight and this new crafting stuff has had me boggled and everything I look up only tells me 'what' it is, but not HOW it worked... hindered in part that if you don't know what something is its hard to search for it. Here I thought the crafting order thing from patreon's was real people and was wondering how to place an order where you only offer some of the resources, and deemed it a waste atm for my own mats when I'm trying to level it.

@ColdBDO 4 ай бұрын

Invaluable as a returning player, and I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of us in TWW

@hedonismbot3274 4 ай бұрын

🙋‍♂️

@vakalkas 4 ай бұрын

I didn't play for 6 years. This was a great help, much appreciated 👏

@rl1585 4 ай бұрын

Havnt played retail in a very long time this made things feel more manageable

@maraldus 3 ай бұрын

An excellent example how a complex system does not equal a smart system. Let alone noob-friendly. Whoever thought this was a great change should stop working at Blizzard.

@zedmouse 3 ай бұрын

The problem is that WoW doesn't even try to help players understand any of the changed made in DF. It's frustrating and it feels like there are so many barriers to getting back into professions. Hoping this video will help.

@nicknames5141 4 ай бұрын

Double gathering herbalism mining here. It's not easier it takes about 2 hours EVERY week to get the knowledge for both profs. It took that long of constant gathering for the entire time you need proff knowledge. I have both fully capped but it never decreased in time until blizz reduced it in season 3 when it went to a little over an hour every week. It also feels really bad still looting rank 1s and 2s with an absolutely filled prof knowledge tree.

@YouhavebeenGilmored 4 ай бұрын

Just a note: it's usually the public orders where you have to be extra careful; most people don't include all the mats. The video argues that only really happens with personal or guild orders, but it's usually the other way around: with personal and guild orders people will often include the mats, but with public orders there are a lot of people who hope a crafter will mess up. They don't send their own mats and hope the crafter uses their own mats. I like this crafting system, but I was always disappointed that there were very little public orders; while the people who spammed their profession (or people with a lot of friends) got a lot of personal crafting orders.

@williamcolgin1987 4 ай бұрын

TWW now requires all mats(at least in beta) to be provided in public orders.

@thrawn82 4 ай бұрын

@@williamcolgin1987 it was like that in the beginning of dragonflight as well. That resulting in almost no public work orders. They rolled that back... and got a public work order list that was 90% scam orders, to the point where any crafter was wise to get an odd-on that removes unprofitable orders from the list to allow us find the nuggets of gold in all the sand.

@williamcolgin1987 4 ай бұрын

@@thrawn82 lol yep. Still have that addon

@charlesincharge1245 4 ай бұрын

Stop being so dramatic.

@eli2112 4 ай бұрын

Yeah I actually messed up a couple times. Not only crafted with my own mats, spent my hard earned mettle in tools orders that didn't include them and I didn't notice

@jocelynnelson6686 4 ай бұрын

I think I should pick flowers and mine ore lol

@steveblease 4 ай бұрын

I have that one 4 of my chars. I just CBA with the proffs now. I'd sooner just do without

@ThatGuyKB32 4 ай бұрын

1:51 did BFA, Legion and shadowlands not introduce the new city hub to us super early? Saying “normally we don’t see the hub early” since when lol

@nanashi4147 Ай бұрын

Would be cool to get a video that shows intros into each profession. What are the professions and what do they entail? This video has me feeling even more lost.

@mridahokrieg6114 Ай бұрын

100% agree

@KennethBliss-m7q 4 ай бұрын

The guide is so helpful.Thank you for doing it. I wish I would have saw it before I started leveling my professions in early release. I find the process super confusing and extremely time consuming. I think I'm going to skip leveling my professions and just gather and sell the material . i'm not sure why they have gone to this complexity in professions, but it's just too much for me. Two expansions in a row that i'm going to pass on profession.

@jorgiotoldo8636 4 ай бұрын

very good guide. it took me time to understand things like no more rare material needed to recraft items. the only real problem with professions is knowledge professions points . you can max out a profession but if you haven't got enough of profession knowledge points for an item you cant guaranty the best quality. hate farming these points cause its timegated . miss being able to max out professions in few hours like in the past and just get reagents to craft an item at the best quality. hope we will not have things like elemental lariat too,never got the receipe and i played nearly all DF expansion farming with lots of alts. altar of decay for specific leatherworker items in a dungeon what a nightmare i have my alts ready for example for blacksmith one specialized in molten material, one in gear,one in weapon and one in profession tools cause we cant get enough profession knowledge points in the beginning of this expansion for just one character.

@Eluass123 4 ай бұрын

If you had found Elemental Lariat recipe, the Lariat Mafia would've mass reported you and got you banned if you sold it outside of their cartel so don't be too disappointted.

@underby2483 3 ай бұрын

omg Excellent guide and pleasant voice

@teej143 4 ай бұрын

This is one of the most helpful videos I ever watched. Thank you

@marycharlesworth9694 4 ай бұрын

Great video thank you. I've really enjoyed both crafting and gathering professions in Dragonflight so will do the same in TWW. It's a bit of a headache at first but worth it in my opinion.

@jaysinrd 4 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, I'm even more overwhelmed after watching this video. I love leveling up professions, well I did. I last leveled up professions in Shadowlands and wasn't a huge fan of that either but this new system is so confusing and over loaded with bloat I just don't want to bother with it which sucks cause that kind of runes the game. Guess I'll make all my toons gatherers and try to wrap my head around that weird system and AH it all. I just don't get any of this. I've watched so many videos this week on TWW professions and I feel more lost after each video. What happened to the days I just had to gather two or three herbs and could make a pot and put it on the AH? You're going on and on about this item and that item and this knowledge and this and that and so on it's too much my brains fried.

@williamcolgin1987 4 ай бұрын

Question: How do treasures that give knowledge points figure into the weekly knowledge cap and catch up mechanic? Does knowledge from treasures sit on top of the weekly hard cap or are they figured into it?

@martinfay7274 4 ай бұрын

Just what I needed. Thank you!

@MateuszSzymkowicz 3 ай бұрын

Great guide. Thank you!

@EpicBrew 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Very helpful.

@khouryramzi 4 ай бұрын

Hi, i changed regions so i made a new character, any thoughts on lvling professions from scratch? would appreciate it.

@thrawn82 4 ай бұрын

Everyone is leveling from scratch in war within. there are no requirements to level previous expansions' crafting levels in a proffesion to start using it in TWW (dragonflight was the same,)

@khouryramzi 4 ай бұрын

@@thrawn82 Ty xD appreciated much!

@Kamken81 4 ай бұрын

If you pick Herbing a Mining would you have to swap those 2 gear parts before each time you swap to the other profession. Like im flying i see a node and its a herb have to put on the 2 herbing profession gear items. Then when I see a mining node would have to swap the 2 gear pieces that are for mining. Seems kinda annoying but maybe can just use a gear swap macro.

@saturndragoon 4 ай бұрын

nope, each profession has its own 3 gear slots sperate of any other gear, as you don't really wear them like your normal gear, they only have an effect on the profession they are for when you are using that one profession eg; when you pick a herb your getting the stats from your 3 herbing gear items only not your 3 mining ones and vise-versa,

@Kamken81 4 ай бұрын

@@saturndragoon thanks for your reply thats great. Right now im thinking of doing herbs and tailoring so i can get cloth drops to sell off kills.

@onlywrongaexthetics6181 4 ай бұрын

are you drunk?

@bethgramkow5225 4 ай бұрын

Are you going to go over each profession knowledge points abd which one is best to start with? I really wish they would allow us to earse when we make a mistake lol

@newtc312 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the thorough guide!

@sirpieman300 4 ай бұрын

This public order thing sounds great

@TheKvaran 4 ай бұрын

The only thing I want is to be able to be entirely self sufficient if I so choose by having different professions on my alts and have them help me get the gear I want. It should be an option if I want it. Didn't hear in the video if you mentioned that being an option or not but that is the main reason I stopped bothering with professions in DF.

@firstamerican7450 4 ай бұрын

Use your Warband bank, you can throw your crafting resources you got on a gathering alt and your crafting alt can craft using those resources. You don't even need to take them out of the bank to do it

@TheKvaran 4 ай бұрын

@@firstamerican7450 That is a step in the right direction but I also want to craft pieces and send them directly to my alts, none of this binds when picked up nonsense immediately after crafting an item.

@firstamerican7450 4 ай бұрын

@@TheKvaran Yeah the bind on pickup change was super unnecessary, it didn’t used to be like that. I think that is something they should rethink so it would allow crafters to list their high level stuff on the auction house again. Plus jumping through the hoop of having to put in a personal work order for yourself is definitely not convenient at all haha

@TheKvaran 4 ай бұрын

@@firstamerican7450 just realized I can send work orders from my alts to the character who can make the item I want. Had no idea personal work orders worked that way as well, never even occurred to me to try it. Problem solved!

@bigbear647965 Ай бұрын

Say if I have all the mats as an engineer, and want the highest gun/bracers, would I just place an order if I don't have concentration or have crafted it before?

@KHBurger 4 ай бұрын

Great video! thanks Kelani

@gandrew1988 4 ай бұрын

I will go with two gathering professions for each of my character during the level phase. Then I'll switch to Alchy/Enchanting with my Main Character and one character (maybe dh) will only be for farming ressources

@ShadoSpartan44 4 ай бұрын

i hated the change, i wish it stayed simple, mainly because i spent the time to just make potions and food for myself. sometimes sold a little to make a tiny profit

@threepointertv 4 ай бұрын

Tailoring and Enchanting I would kind of if not actually consider gathering professions as well

@coryscribner1924 Ай бұрын

Very nice video! I’m new to WOW and i have really struggled to understand professions. I just wanna craft jewelry. Why can’t it just be simple like ESO?

@Briansgate 4 ай бұрын

Great work putting that video together, but, dang, all I heard were technical words and none of it made sense.

@alexanderpondarius8586 4 ай бұрын

another great vid thanks man

@Elegolass 4 ай бұрын

Hey kelani! This is folks :)

@RichHletko 4 ай бұрын

great guide!!!

@WaskaSwansea 3 ай бұрын

great video

@dryjhna 4 ай бұрын

I wish I was 16 again and have time and headspace to wrap my head around this. :o

@ThatGuyKB32 4 ай бұрын

The zones scale with level the lower you start material farming the better. 70-73 with DF gear still will be the fastest

@m4d44 4 ай бұрын

What you suggest for a hunter? Engi+mining or skining+lw?

@Twin_Flyer 4 ай бұрын

What is the new Patron tab for?

@litebkt 4 ай бұрын

How do I share my catalog in chat? I’ve seen people do this and I missed out in DF I think.

@jorgiotoldo8636 4 ай бұрын

you open with the P key your profession screen. in chat you click like when you want write then left click on the profession icon in the profession screen it appears now in the chat as a clickable icon

@jessicahampton4581 4 ай бұрын

question do you know how many time you can skill a craft from orange to green like is it 12 times 15 times 30 times etc before it goes from orange to green or green to none.?

@jaskim5723 4 ай бұрын

Heck of a code there, Kelani

@DanRocal39 4 ай бұрын

Can you complete a crafting order requiring rank 5 using concentration? even if you don't have the skill for rank 5?

@imacutedoge 4 ай бұрын

the patron orders I have do not reward any knowledge points... am I doing something wrong?

@stephen-cg2jy 4 ай бұрын

LOL when I search public orders its always empty.

@brettmorgen9728 4 ай бұрын

Can you earn profession skill points from the Darkmoon Faire like in Dragonflight?

@Woezinga 3 ай бұрын

Last time I played was Legion. Did miss a lot new stuff it seems

@bobsodman5274 3 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, that made it WAY MORE SIMPLE

@michaelbowling1362 4 ай бұрын

Quick Question: if I move all my alts into the Expansion for Professions will I miss out on the 5 % Exp boost increments? I.e. Adventure mode.

@mishiara5499 4 ай бұрын

Can you learn the TWW professions from normal trainers in the old world (for TWW expansion) or do you need to find it in the new continent?

@kozmosis3486 4 ай бұрын

I would guess that it will be like it has been for many expacs, where the new prof content is learned in the new zones. Actually I think it might have been that way forever.

@Sunmocker 4 ай бұрын

I wonder what they're going to do when the market crashes (like in literally every xpac) and the only real way to level professions is through an empty crafting tab or RNG raid bs again?

@williamcolgin1987 4 ай бұрын

They added an personal NPC crafting tab that solves that problem. You can fully level up without any public or private orders.

@Gwenx 4 ай бұрын

I did play dragon flight, casually, and i DID nope out of professions because it looks so overwhelming.. I am trying my best this time to get into it.. But damn i don't like the UI..

@NFSICA 4 ай бұрын

Just for confirmation, crafting orders are limited for pj or account? tnx

@sebastiangjerde8128 4 ай бұрын

Thanx for new great video and guide. Is there a profession that will benefit from a class? Thinking about trying engineering in TWW but don't know if there is a class which is good for the profession. Don't think about the other way around that the class will benefit from the profession.

@kozmosis3486 4 ай бұрын

Engineering seems to be useful for all classes, but depending more or less on your gameplay. Not sure if engi will be better on any classes but maybe if you paired it with mining, then either a druid for gathering in flight form or a pally for faster mounted form maybe? Not sure if it even still works that way now. Engi has lots of fun and useful items tho to play with plus they make tools for other profs which sell well.

@sebastiangjerde8128 4 ай бұрын

@@kozmosis3486 Thank you. Probably take 1 of the toons that I take in to TWW. Think it is mostly gonna go solo with it and was thinking either druid or pally with mining for easier farming. Thinking about the mount coming for crafting also ;)

@ninez5740 4 ай бұрын

I know we're on a new expac, but having to reslot all of our profession equipment anew is ridiculous. Should be same system same tools of the trade. Every expansion behind it had a herbalism spade, skinning knife, pick axe, etc. It's akin in the real world to go out and buy a new 10K-15K mechanics tool set, or carpentry tools, electrician tools, whatever every two years. So, to tweak one big item deep into the xpac for yourself, it just isn't worth it. But, you know what I'll probably being doing it with everyone else. EDIT: Upon another thought, the weekly for Artisan's Consortium, the profession equipment crafting orders kinda drives quests for alts, if you can't find something to craft in public orders. Blizzard winks and points a gun hand finger at me.

@Ricaaa13 3 ай бұрын

Help 😮 do l have to have all my ore and gems 💎 in my bag ? Because a recipe will ask for something I see it in my bag and then it doesn’t use it. Can I put all my gems in my bank? Can I put all of my ore in my bank and still craft in front of the table? Thank you.

@barcenalbg 4 ай бұрын

Professions are another game inside the game at this point 😅

@Mystr7 3 ай бұрын

Can i level more than two professions or do I lose any progress I made when I switch to another one? I want to start with two gathering ones, to prepare for max level while making some gold.

@alsardar2740 2 ай бұрын

You can get only 2 main proffesion. But you can take cooking and fishing on top of them

@Mystr7 2 ай бұрын

@@alsardar2740 but my question was in regards to progression, lets say I have skinning and mining now at maxed. Do I lose all progression with skinning if I swap it for Engineering?

@alsardar2740 2 ай бұрын

I did this in dragonflight and I lost all my points, I dunno about ww tbh

@ienott 4 ай бұрын

I actually got excited about the Ragnarok but its not available in Czechia 😭😭😭😭

@joost8176 3 ай бұрын

Who ever invented this system should have their coffee priveledges taken away as punishment.

@MikeTheGamer77 4 ай бұрын

I hate that I can't just make something as a Blacksmith and post it on the AH. Professions used to be so simple and enjoyable.

@theR1ch 4 ай бұрын

Spent so much time putting in personal work orders to make profession equipment for my alts because mailing them to myself was out of the question now.

@williamcolgin1987 4 ай бұрын

You can tho, just not the highest end crafts that require a spark. In DF I made tons of gold off shovels alone. Alchemy and enchanting are better set up to use the AH for gold making.

@MikeTheGamer77 4 ай бұрын

@@williamcolgin1987 why should that make a difference? You used to be able to craft the highest level gear and sell it. There was absolutely no need to change that.

@foreverhumanpodcast 4 ай бұрын

It doesn’t have to make sense to you it makes enough sense for them to put it in the game. Learn the new system or don’t use. Pick one move on. The human complain rate is astronomical these days.

@MrHydra12 3 ай бұрын

@@foreverhumanpodcastsays the guy complaining about people complaining lmfao

@tomayto70 4 ай бұрын

It seems like they want to limit the amount of crafters that will bother to level up this system, and just have most people simply take up gathering professions and supply them with materials.

@steveblease 4 ай бұрын

You're giving me anxiety just watching this convoluted BS.

@ioanlascu5016 4 ай бұрын

If I understand correctly there's no point for making alts crafting your main's gear because he will be limited by sparks, right ?

@sphodros01 4 ай бұрын

You need one of the soulbound sparks on your main to obtain one piece of epic crafted gear, but it doesn’t matter who crafts it. If your main is a blacksmith and you want an epic crafted sword, you just craft it yourself using the spark. If you alt is the blacksmith, you create a private crafting order using the spark and name your blacksmithing alt in the order. The alt does the “labor” while your main provides the spark. Order complete, now you have one less spark on your main but a shiny new epic crafted sword.

@ioanlascu5016 4 ай бұрын

@@sphodros01 thanks, it's clear !

@Cloud_Fluff 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this. I hated the new professions because I couldn’t understand it and I feel like there’s no tutorial for how in-depth it is With your explanation I think this is a great system!

@alexvoyd1132 4 ай бұрын

They pushed the reset button? OMG!!! Blizzard sees wow as just the last patch! They stole dragonriding from GW2,why cant they steal how GW2 does professions as well?!

@onlywrongaexthetics6181 4 ай бұрын

like how garbage gw2 is? no thank you..

@mattleccese 4 ай бұрын

A great and thorough explanation but somehow they’ve managed to turn crafting into the opposite of fun

@tomxd8000 4 ай бұрын

egg yolks this is salami

@kozmosis3486 4 ай бұрын

I was like huh? Why does that sound so familiar lol. Said it to myself a couple times then was like oh yeah! Funny af!

@Stealyblaid 4 ай бұрын

Great video very helpful, but sigh....I didn't like DF crafting system before...not gonna like this time around either. I'm just gonna farm and maybe concentrate on a couple of recipes to make gold. When Blizz makes a crafting system that is not either dumb down easy or one I have to pay attention to every little nuance, then maybe I will engage more. There is so much to do in the game I have to accomplish - oh, and then there's that rl thing that I have to engage in that keeps me from bothering too much with this. It's all about time. But with all that said, I will slog through it somehow like I almost did in DF. That rng for recipes was a killer - how many bottles did you have to fish up? Never got it finished ..

@Stealyblaid 4 ай бұрын

Edit: I need to shush and try it with some of the changes. I guess I am critical because I just didn't have time to craft orders for others and getting some of the recipes was frustrating. I have a completionist heart and..well you know how it goes...

@starchaser6024 4 ай бұрын

I like how WoW crafting can literally be the entire game for someone if they just want to spend there time crafting. For me though, it’s dual gathering and enchant / alchemy with 0 crafting for raiding 🙈

@Stealyblaid 4 ай бұрын

Exactly this system are for those that either only make gold and not interested in playing out other parts of the game or have so much rl time on thier hands they can put into it.

@VictusPrime 4 ай бұрын

You know professions are unnecessarily complicated when you need to make an almost 30 minute video trying to explain how they work. What the hell happened?

@zapspiders92 4 ай бұрын

Used to make sense. You want this item? U need this proff level and these mats. Short and simple

@oopomopoo 4 ай бұрын

I mean let's be honest, half the video is common sense. How do you skill up? Akin animals. Didn't need a video. How do you skill up crafting? Orange is guaranteed, yellow likely, green low. There's a lot of common sense here that doesn't need to be, but is here for an all in one video

@Paaacss 4 ай бұрын

So Dragonflight professions, got it.

@UltimateGamerCC 4 ай бұрын

only better, no having to farm Humanoids for KP Catchup, Patron Crafting Orders for KP Catchup instead and rather than having to rely on RNG Procs, you can get Rank 5 spending a special resource that charges with time.

@SebiBubble 4 ай бұрын

lol? Better than vanilla professions, no?

@sproosemoose285 4 ай бұрын

@@SebiBubble i miss the simplicity of Vanilla professions. I miss Vanilla in general, really hope they do another FRESH soon

@FunkyToe369 4 ай бұрын

Just a strict improvement over Dragonflight. Inspiration was dumb so most recipes being guarantee-able is great and concentration is a nice replacement

@wojciech9001 4 ай бұрын

It was so dumb, people didn't understand why they had to resubmit the orders to "proc" inspiration either.

@beefymario88 Ай бұрын

Do you think that they made this complicated so people would buy Gold for cash rather than do the professions?

@CrispinEternity 4 ай бұрын

I absolutely hate the new professions. Too complicated (with 3 levels of mats), to expensive (with 3 levels of mats), and takes up to much bag/bank space (with 3 levels of mats). Somebody at bliz is way over-thinking professions.

@SamMathewsOfficial 4 ай бұрын

Once you figure it out it won't be so tough. It's pretty easy actually.

@secordk 4 ай бұрын

I absolutely love it. I personally don't find it too complicated and it gives me something to progress through since I haven't been able to raid for quite some time

@PULAG 4 ай бұрын

I've been on SoD til yesterday, so I have no clue about anything profession related since original Cata. It's highly confusing.

@Sastank08 4 ай бұрын

Mining herb on my main see ya

@vincekovacs4297 3 ай бұрын

Bro u are talking about the reasons why we are looking for this video. Dude, u dont have to say my thoughts out loud just talk about the profs fml not wether i played dragonflight or not

@FluxStudiosHD 4 ай бұрын

With a new expansion they had the chance to make professions better but instead they chose to double down on the most horrendous version of professions we've ever had. Welp, another expansion where I won't bother wasting my time with professions.