Driller Grenades | Deep Rock Galactic

[@xTHERANGAx]

The opening scene was as torturous as someone teasing me with my wake up alarm

[@siirvend]

I have achieved the desired effect.

[@kingcrab7837]

A reminder to all dwarfs. Throwing axes are specifically only used for throwing. These are not melee axes the explosion will have you lose fingers and it is not covered by insurnace.

[@vancouver9672]

Nothing is covered by insurance in this damn company

[@siirvend]

Insurance is for wimps! *this message brought to you by Deep Rock Galactic

[@siirvend]

They do hurt when you use them right in your own face, who knew a meter long quick deploying double sided are could be dangerous!

[@bluestar3144]

Well, technically, the axes don't explode, they'll just release a electrical discharge. Still, it isn't good for your nervous system if they discharge on you.

[@joneydew4739]

DRG has been forced to provide radiation insurance after I got a hold of the Fat boy.

[@TF2isaDeadGame]

That red circle....it scares me.

[@siirvend]

I fear no bug... but that thing... it scares me.

[@HappyEngie]

Video born towards my eyes

[@adamt.borrowmanmr.mattobei9865]

Second!

[@dylanauntiecrafters3278]

profile picture matches perfectly

[@chaoticcosmos7588]

“Art…is an explosion!”

[@siirvend]

*chefs kiss*

[@elib2363]

My man!

[@atticboi7381]

I told Sasori I wouldn’t keep him waiting 💀

[@MyOtheHedgeFox]

Impact Axes also have little DRG lights installed on them for higher visibility, which gives them another use -- hazard lights! Used them many a time to mark main tunnels, convenient escape routes or entrances to The Bunkie. Stab an axe into the wall, and it's like a permanent short-range marker point that marks a point in the dark until someone picks it up.

[@siirvend]

That's a really interesting use! I think I never considered it because I use a 10 waypoint mod and forgot you can only place one usually lol

[@briscounty]

As a driller main, I approve this message.

[@nickr8662]

Usually it’s “when in doubt: Axes out” as drillers kit usually rewards time investment with a laundry list of debuffs and dot, with some more unreliable primary, Sludge pump. I mean sludge pump. Having a back up source of damage for when you’re just sitting, waiting, waiting, waiting, for your acid to kill a single praetorian. Uses the axes, thank me later.

[@siirvend]

I do love to have them when my build is very DoT dependant. Sometimes you just can't wait for it to die the economic way lol

[@TheSpeep]

Another plus and minus for the Neurotoxin grenades: They can actually still work surprisingly well against the robots despite their poison immunity; when used in tandem with the flamethrower you can create a big fireball that can just take care of a whole bunch of machines at once. Also though... you cant see shit through them, theyre basically a smokescreen that hides the enemies while it kills them.

[@lestevecorp]

Them being a smokescreen is very BAAAD, since i can't look back at my would-be pursuers in the heat of a swarm song and observe them, slowly, painfull and ultimately pointlessly trying to crawl at me and at least dent my armor. It's a paradox to me, so much willpower and feral aggression, but what use is that in a decaying body pumping deconstructed proteins through alien cardiovascular systems barely understood by us, without purpose, the anomaly of life quickly extinguishing. So yeah, real bummer, would really love the see that more.

[@siirvend]

That is something I should try, especially if I see a prospector in the wild since I almost never have anything but axes on Rival missions.

[@theauralucario60]

That intro was an entire horror movie for us scout mains

[@confusingdalek709]

another thing for the quick throwing technique: if you create a secondary bind for "switch to last weapon" on the same key as "throw grenade", you can do the quick throw with ease and just a single button.

[@siirvend]

Thats super useful, I might try that

[@Duskcosmog]

Every experienced driller at the drop pod: "you know the rules and so do I, now say goodbye"

[@siirvend]

It's tradition!

[@gratefulgamer7907]

@@siirvend Well your damned traditions piss me off! - Scout ID-22794

[@Duskcosmog]

​@@siirvendI do it even if I'm not playing driller, old habits don't die

[@Madalovin]

Oh boy, am I glad to have been up at 4 in the mornin' to see this! Thank you for the visual aid of how large a range the Stun of the C- Satchel charge affects. I'mma try that out! :)

[@siirvend]

It's crazy how wide it actually is huh?

[@xyro3633]

I just gotta say, this was *really* well edited. Nicely done!

[@IronMoose95]

Congrats on the sponsor

[@siirvend]

What am I gonna do with all these sample grenades???

[@Jawmax]

Go fishing?@@siirvend

[@joneydew4739]

​@@siirvenda frag grenade casserole is always a classic choice.

[@adamt.borrowmanmr.mattobei9865]

You’re one of the reasons why I started my channel.

[@siirvend]

Ayyy good luck man! It's a fun hobby/job/non-committal pasttime/ indentured servitude!

[@adamt.borrowmanmr.mattobei9865]

@@siirvend:)

[@mofire5674]

Thank you Siirvend. Back when my beard was green I'd use all the driller nades, willing to experiment and find the best situations for each. As time grew on, and hours went from tens to hundreds, I became disillusioned, adopting the motto of axe supremacy. I'd fall back on their ease of use and complementation to driller's kit at large, believing them to be the only worthwhile grenade no matter the build. While that may potentially still be true, you have inspired me to return to my roots and really try out the other options again. Don't get it mixed up though, I just want more ways to kill scout.

[@raeelemental7084]

Dang the segment for c4 fear and stun really opened up its use case for me. Never knew how much utility it really had until i played haz 4 from haz 3. It was the "heres my bigger sticky grenade from gunner" for the longest time as a greenbeard. But now... I see its both a sticky grenade, shield clutch (for fearing not on your teammates...), remote dreadnought, caretaker / dreanoughr phase skip, bunker, emergency dig, terraform or mining tool. The list goes on.. Thats a lot of uses for something a greenbeard like me looks on the surface level as "oh bigger sticky grenade, cool." Thank you for these vids, one of the most high quality content the drg community has to offer! Especially the lok1, betc and builds. So much variety and i love they're playable as mods for the game. Looking forward to your next videos!

[@tonkitdrix4235]

Ahhh my Favourite War Criminal

[@phoenixinvictus9880]

This is not war, it's just good business.

[@synka5922]

one good thing to note, satchel charges give you two per resupply if you have one of the ammo upgrades now. This is a relatively recent change, but imo it means that taking both ammo upgrades is not very useful

[@siirvend]

Oh yeah I forgot they changed it to round up. I do use mine pretty often though so I tend to actually get back up to 4 regularly.

[@Dasher260]

He was drinking lacklock lager! Hah~ That'd do it.

[@siirvend]

I really should lay off those...

[@lordvgames]

didn't know about the light on the axes in different scenarios, will definitely look for that now

[@Sirebellum1337]

This video is so well made. I can't think of anyone else doing DRG stuff on this level, reminds me of the TF2 youtube community

[@siirvend]

TF2 KZbinrs are on another level haha

[@somedude4087]

man I miss when you could use axes as step stools or use them to place pipes on em

[@siirvend]

Oh man I forgot about that, I wonder why they patched that cause it was the coolest mobility tool in the game

[@somedude4087]

@@siirvend the good ol impact step stool

[@WIP_Games]

that opening reminds me of the 12 hour stream when i was playing driller. good times.

[@siirvend]

Lol, I remember

[@misterspoo7068]

fun fact: the gunners sticky grenade can stick to teammates

[@siirvend]

Don't let the Driller mains know

[@DoubleMDoubleFun]

​​@@siirvend*THEY FUCKING WHAT?!?* Runs back to (steal)borrow Gunner's equipment

[@pestoplays090]

Video begining be like : "It's just laying there... Menacingly... "

[@siirvend]

I need to make a mod that changes the beep to Patrik going "were woo" quickly now

[@pestoplays090]

@@siirvend 📞😨 --> 📞😭 (it's Patrick screaming in his walkie-talkie while camera morning closer to C4)

[@KorotasGeckoGamingCorner]

One thing to keep in mind is that Vampire doesn't start off at +5 HP on Melee kill, new players will have to upgrade it a bit when they first get it!

[@siirvend]

Oh yeah, its easy to forget lol

[@Вейтангур]

I have 700 hours in this game I never knew the HE grenade could be cooked the more you know

[@siirvend]

To be fair that was the most recent change to them, I think around the beginning of Season 4 so it's not hard to miss it.

[@blox5505]

Explosives placed!

[@lestevecorp]

I used to take the 2 sachel charge ammo mods every single time, but now i can recommend against that, since ammo received at a resupply rounds up you get 2 charges even with 3 total and the extra range is looking really tempting now. (With 4 max charges you basically only get one extra at the beginning of a mission)

[@siirvend]

Oh I totally get that, I might be stuck in my old ways before they made resupply round up for satchels. I do tend to use them in danger close scenarios though so that extra radius kinda bites me in the ass when I try to toss one out in front of me haha

[@Zerathorne40k]

Granite smoothie

[@alexnime3303]

In regards to axe canceling, while I used to do the simple pickaxe cancel method, it turns out that a faster method has you holding pickaxe/laser pointer then holding grenade after. After you release the grenade immediately release whatever you’re using to cancel then repeat again. I had to spend a while in haz 1 practicing to get it right, and there’s better guides on YT out there, but as long as you have (good ping and) some axes to spare the burst damage is beyond belief with how quickly you can empty your supply. Also something that was almost shown in this video that works with so far I’ve discovered sludge pump (others may exist), but you can actually block dreadnaught fireballs by shooting at them midair if you don’t have enough room to dodge or feel like showing off to a teammate Now onto more eldritch collision techniques, we all know about the mysterious floating C4 if it lands on terrain that is destroyed after, or placed on Dotty while she’s moving as a trap for the following bugs, but there’s a reliable way to get floating C4 no matter where you are. An old method was throwing an axe at it midair, which does work depending on ping, but when the netcode isn’t in a good mood sometimes that axe is like a pencil you dropped during class in 5th grade, disappeared never to be seen again. However (on accident) I found the same technique is replicable simply by tossing a normal flare the moment you throw the C4, and the C4 now will float where the flare passed through it, letting you save more axes from going to the back rooms when you aren’t hosting the game.

[@haxavage156]

Not the Destiny 1 base game first cutscene music in the beginning

[@siirvend]

Ancient music

[@CoolJguy.]

You know its great when siirvend uploads (I completely forgot about him)

[@HazopGaze]

Man, you better watch it, talking about tunnel sizes like that. You never know, some glowy-eyed freak might get the wrong idea!

[@siirvend]

All tunnel sizes are valid!

[@FlowotheFlower]

11:52 I wear the Bio hazard kit so no worrys.

[@siirvend]

I'm legally required to tell you that the suit you're using is only for show and has no OSHA approved biogazard protection

[@justsomeguywithahandlebarm2456]

Morning drills and drillables

[@ethantarr9130]

9:03 You forgot the biggest con: they block sightlines. I'm also surprised you didn't bring up the C4 ammo issue. C4 used to not round up ammunition on resupply, meaning it was better to take either both ammo upgrades, or neither. GSG fixed this issue in season 4, so now it's the opposite: taking both ammo upgrades means that you only get one extra C4 for the entire mission. So now it's better to take the damage on tier 1, and ammo on tier 3.

[@siirvend]

I guess I didn't really think about it, its never been an issue for me since I tend to use all my C4 to the point of getting them all back frequently with resups. As for the sight lines, I did neglect that but again I think its just never really been an issue for me and my team unless you're dealing with Rivals or maybe a menace out of view. The other bugs have a hard time getting to you otherwise.

[@timothye.2902]

Some notes about the Satchel Charge. Firstly, let's talk resupply. The Satchel Charge rounds *down* on resupply rather than up. So if you take any ammo upgrades, you should take both ammo upgrades so that you also get +1 satchel on resupply. It's not really worth taking only 1 ammo upgrade for 1 total satchel for the whole mission. Second, enemy stun resistance vs fear resistance works differently, and that can majorly impact your choice. Stun resistance is a % reduction in stun duration, while fear resist is a % reduction in fear change. The satchel has 100% base chance for both, so anything vulnerable to stun will *always* get stunned, while any fear resistance can sometimes cause an enemy to completely ignore the fear.

[@siirvend]

Very good points. The fear is only really reliable for smaller enemies combined with CC to take advantage of it, like with neurotoxin. I default to stun usually unless the mission in mind will have me defending with slows and DoT like with escort.

[@azogtheuglee4889]

The C4 Rounding down on Resupply has actually been changed I think, it rounds up now.

[@funcat3560]

Last time I checked, it rounds up. Taking 3 charges is very nice.

[@warpstarrogue3554]

Gonna be honest, HE is my favorite for a reason I can't explain, even to me (probably what most gunners feel with clusters). On that topic, you don't have to throw it despite the timer on it. A simple laserpointer or pickaxe cancel and you put the pin back in (just don't ask me how you do it with one hand).

[@AeciusthePhilosopher]

13:07 Are you implying I have a small dig?

[@siirvend]

Small dig in COMPARISON to industrial sized digs!

[@YashaMikage]

Yo new video drop! Good timing too, I just started getting into playing Driller.

[@siirvend]

Driller is so underplayed judging by what I hear talking to people!

[@adamt.borrowmanmr.mattobei9865]

Fourth!

[@YashaMikage]

@siirvend I'm a bit slow getting comfy with it because I had a hard adjust going from plats to drilling tunnels as a maneuvering option. n.n' Finally starting to get there though.

[@siirvend]

@@YashaMikage it's freeing to know that you can pretty much travel anywhere you want through medium of substrate

[@pandaperson68]

driller when the most common and most used builds are croud clear so people mostly use axes. good video!

[@siirvend]

I totally get that, it makes sense most people prefer axes and in a vacuum and especially in solo they compliment his weapons well. I do still think his other throwables are severely misunderstood by many. Even if they accomplish a similar job to his louadouts, in a team setting there's much more incentive to specialize and even more so to save ammo since that can be the silent killer for chaotic situations. A driller with his cleave and CC on call when everyone else is low van absolutely save the mission.

[@imaloler2275]

You can use driller grenades on ebonuts

[@imaloler2275]

Driller axes*

[@medic_bug]

LOL dominance over team and scout removal

[@Izzybelled]

Also one thing about satchel charges, even if you take only one ammo upgrade you'll get 2 satchels every resupply instead of 1

[@LazyBuddyBan]

I really wish grenades had some mod customization. HE Grenades would be 10 times more fun if it had option to replace annoying timer with explode on impact. Also, a digging radius mod like on c4~ i mean satchel charge, would be very cool for hard to reach places. Sort of alternative for that EPC secondary with Thin Containment Field

[@ianpalmer3357]

A combo that wasnt mentioned is making a floating satchel using axes (if its still in the game). You toss a satchel up into the air and then hit it with an axe & it will float in place. I mostly use it on escort where i dont want to make a big pit for my team to cross on extract, as well as the charge covering more of the tunnel by being in the middle instead of to one of the sides.

[@catmaster8688]

8:59 is the nurotoxin btw

[@newbert9287]

Hell yeah! Driller's grenades are really weird, and I've done my best to figure out (and wrongly assume) what they do! Great stuff!

[@fleshdadbot6852]

It's gonna blow!

[@AceofWickedSpades]

A lot of these are interesting applications. I'm going to have to try some of these out! I just went all natural with the good ol' axe.

[@siirvend]

Theyre definitely worth trying out! I personally swear by the crowd clear of his other grenades when axes aren't the obvious choice. Its just hard to swap off axes since like I said, there's never a BAD time to bring them lol

[@thenightjackal]

driller has grenades?

[@siirvend]

He's a dwarf of many talents

[@harmlesstherobot7181]

There is no circle I fear more than the red one.

[@Fennalope]

For me impact axes are the only Grenades Driller ownes. and i have commited myself to never unlocking the others. I am player rank 300. I own every weapon and upgrade, every overclock, every purchaseable item that modifies gameplay. except drillers other grenades.

[@siirvend]

But... but why? No judgement but I like variety over anything else. Gotta be a war crime virtuoso!

[@adamt.borrowmanmr.mattobei9865]

Fifth!

[@YashaMikage]

@@siirvend Having played with her, she's one of those people that fits into that description of "I fear more one who has practiced one sword swing 1000 times, than someone who has practiced over 1000 different swings once." She's really good with them.

[@siirvend]

@@YashaMikage hey like I said, no judgement haha

[@DrDwarven]

Thanks for the guide I have always been iffy on how to use his grenades effectively(driller is my least played class) so thank you 👍

[@siirvend]

He's got some weird ones so I don't blame you, glad to help!

[@LordofMangoes]

great playing with you on HD2 man

[@zunlise2341]

that opening was fantastic

[@TheInfiniteAmo]

Volatile Satchel Charge has no downside. Teammates accidentally hitting your midair C4 with a single pick swing because you were trying to save everyone some time on an ore vein is both hilarious AND optimal.

[@novarat4089]

Remember when rippers had a 170% friendly fire damage multiplier on release and would down a teammate in 2 hits?

[@siirvend]

*sigh* those were the days

[@icicle_ai]

I'll be honest I half expected to hear a boom at the end of the video

[@siirvend]

Don't tempt me

[@whale605]

Useful but seemingly obvious fun fact: the neurotoxin grenade has the highest capacity for friendly fire as the explosion effect for igniting it is NOT affected by friendly fire. So many deaths...

[@realestNPC]

Casually comes back after a month

[@blackknightz5036]

I've been maining Driller since the start and my best pick will alway be the Cryocannon and HE grenade, the cryocannon is alway useful due to it high+strong crowdcontrol and the HE grenade is very good once you get the timing right, imo Driller should focus on wave control to give other classes more breathing room to focus on stronger target.

[@UnknownUser-wd6yf]

I was looking forward to this so much!

[@someguy9520]

That opening was....sth

[@orctrihar]

I love to play engineer, but I just can't stand to see anyone miss use driller, it's just the best class for who use them correctly.

[@siirvend]

He's so misunderstood. And I'm not talking about his propensity for team damage.

[@pidgeotguy3400]

Q + G is faster than laser pointing

[@siirvend]

noted

[@evanvollbrecht541]

all hail the red shield

[@shobooknight]

The axes also instakill the tentacles of the caretaker if you hit the head

[@meltingatom]

The HE grenade would be alot better , if there wasnt this weird cap of how much armor can be stripped from a singular explosion. If one well timed grenade could strip a praetorian of all its armor , I'd probably swap from the super fun and dangerous saw grenade

[@siirvend]

Is there really a cap to the armor break? Even so, it usually get the big back plates off the praetorian which are the ones I care the most about.

[@meltingatom]

@@siirvend I know it's like 80% of the armor shredded , but danm if I cannot stand seeing a near perfect nade not strip a pred. To its birthday suit

[@aaronho1914]

I love the thumbnail

[@aridinanimates]

For some reason, rippers count as explosives, making them weak against tank enemies and not giving you health from vampire. One of the biggest design mistakes in the DRG tools manufacturing department

[@siirvend]

That does mean they absolutely destroy slashers though

[@Psyko_Monk3y]

Imagine if the ripper counted as melee damage. The vampire proc on a crowd of frozen bugs would pretty much be a full heal.

[@siirvend]

Yeah right? Maybe that's why they didn't make it like that

[@TeethMeat-jm8ou]

So i don't really use the axes. I'm a driller main and just got past gold but i much prefer the toxin and h.e.. it also was only recently that i started playing around with the cryo cannon. I know. Blasphemy. What I've started doing with the rippers is when I'm digging a tunnel I'll dig to the side, extend that out a bit and then I'll dig to the other side to make a sectioned off hallway. Throw the ripper in there when the bugs come in and they out of that section. The fear on the c4 shows that the fear effect comes from you. You can see this if you dig a tunnel bunker (see a pattern here?) put a charge at the front and then set it off when they are close to you. They will turn around and run for the exit even though that is where the explosion was. Rock and Stone

[@siirvend]

Yo no way, it originates from the player?? That changes everything

[@TeethMeat-jm8ou]

@@siirvend as far as I can tell. C4 I think it's one of the only placeable fear items. That's what it seems like to me. I play on console if that makes a difference.

[@nightshadow9937]

the light on the axes only turns off if you are host, not as a client. or my games just buged. highly confusing and anoying when i try to pick up my axes that i think are still active but they are not. also as a tip for dorry missions as driller, while she is drilling tunnles though walls throw a c4 on her ass (right about where her button is) and itll float there in the center of the tunnle shes digging with bugs trailing behind, time it well and u can clear a few bugs with ease.

[@siirvend]

Ah that client thing may explain people ignoring axes as often as I see. Im usually the host.

[@blacktigerace6687]

explosive place

[@aqua9116]

If you want to add even more chaos to your Mission Control lineup, try out the Intern Team. I've been running it along with Passive Aggressive, You, and Chaotic Mission Control for a while now and its an absolute mess 😂

[@siirvend]

Oh yeah those guys are great. I have every shout framework mod on so I'm familiar. I also have Wyatt and Solaris on too.

[@aqua9116]

@@siirvend I'll have to give those two a look. I've still been trying to get DRG to run decently well despite the fact i'm stuck on a laptop...Having to play with an FPS cap of 30 to avoid input delays has been unpleasant, but i've learned to tolerate it. And while MCR has done wonders for vanilla performance, the larger caves and custom assets have kind of counteracted that for me...But thats just what happens when you have sub-par hardware. Plus, I was going to write a guide on Steam for solo Hazard 5, but steam is being very uncooperative and giving me errors whenever I try to update pages...So infuriating. Anyway thank you for coming to my TED talk, Rock and Stone!

[@candicestapper1953]

That's it I'm a driller main

[@siirvend]

As you should be

[@candicestapper1953]

@@siirvend I'm a scout I'll try

[@ranjitsharma5811]

Me when the flag of my barely mentioned country is seen on a funny space dwarf video:

[@siirvend]

Where flag?

[@ranjitsharma5811]

@@siirvend it's the flag of Bangladesh. It's on the left she of the screen Think of Japan's flag but the red is dimmer and the white is dark-ish green

[@ranjitsharma5811]

I didn't mention it (I forgot) but it's on the thumbnail

[@siirvend]

@@ranjitsharma5811 oh no way haha, those colors are really close too!

[@skycrown9450]

Totally axeptable

[@Bookslayer10]

Axes would be my favorite grenade, but I tend to play in random lobbies, and like 50% of hosts have bad enough internet that I can't hit anything with them. Like, I'll hit a target with an axe, but the axe won't do any damage and just act as if it hit terrain, floating midair.

[@siirvend]

Thats why I end up hosting lol

[@whitemoon8987]

19:30 OSHARE

[@JM-zd6ml]

When Driller met Mr.Torgue again?

[@siirvend]

They'd be good friends

[@JulyTheNeon]

Scout here It's not my fault you detonated that death trap right as I was zipping past, so I'm sure you won't mind paying for the leg surgery caused by it? Union says they can't get the company to pay for it, figures.

[@michlop452]

The reason everything outside the axe sucks is because crowd control is 100% covered by driller's primaries already. I mean they aren't useless, just significantly worse than the axe.

[@siirvend]

I think it comes down to covering your own or your teammates weaknesses. Axes serve Driller best when isolated but his other grenades greatly help out his allies. Throw a neurotoxin next to a scout who's dealing with 50 swarmers and he's happy with or without you being right there next to him.

[@ShovelLettuce]

You're awesome mayn >:D

[@You-Know-What-That-Meanz]

"Explosi-"

[@calvininthanon1546]

Do you take inspiration from Ahoy? You guys have a similar editing style and thumbnails and delivery

[@siirvend]

I do! Ive been a fan of his for a long time so it's no wonder my stuff ended up looking similar

[@calvininthanon1546]

@siirvend I think you're doing a great job I'm glad someone with the same quality can cover such an awesome game :))

[@sethharpenger607]

i REALLY want grenade perks

[@siirvend]

that would be interesting

[@bananaspice1967]

The red shield is my favorite! It seems to be bugged tho, it doesn't block any damage for some reason?

[@siirvend]

Keeps the bugs away all the same!

[@Iteration456-8_codename_goblin]

Now that I think about it I don’t remember team killing someone in at least an hour I think it’s time to change that

[@siirvend]

The urge grips another once more

[@adwans1491]

Man... ever since Helldivers, I didn't touch this game :(

[@siirvend]

Hey, its a new game. Even the Ghost Ship team is playing it lol

[@nomiset2160]

the q on my keyboard:

[@D3lpDelight]

hiveguard…. crystalls….? splash epc…… man your limit is haz5? oh yeah… of COURSE, this is just the way to “enjoy” right hahahah 😅😅

[@siirvend]

What do you mean? Yeah I play exclusively on haz 5 and I have fun using all of this stuff haha

[@D3lpDelight]

@@siirvend i understand i am the obly one to take this game on such serious level its is no longer game for most people, i dont want to force anybody thinking they are doing something wrong by showing how they play and think about the game, because i can disscus about useless or irrelevant stuff for most people just becaus ei can thus i need to do because i take the idea and role play aspect if the game too serious; anything on haz 5 is a goood build unless somebody resups only for hp (unless one rare situation on salvage with rival event with hack C and 2 rockpox secondary with machine event that soawn a lot of bugs like trythilite, or red crystall event i neved memorised the name sorry, then ammo is a veeeeery serious question because i had that situation and in my mind judged a bit my teammates because “no “meta” builds” that this game doesnt have on haz 5 because everythin on haz 5 is a good build unless miss and resup only for health) you know what i mean, im the kind of player that doesnt take thunderhead just because it seem too heavy for dwarves to actually bring with them

[@elegathor4251]

If you don't want to see twitching beards, copy your mods onto an external mod manager.

[@siirvend]

I need to do that still

[@elegathor4251]

@@siirvend It works like a charm. Will recommend you the one I use, once I'm on my computer. I used the ingame mod manager for customization stuff and when I switched to the external one all off my mod settings where there. I don't know if all of them can be transfered to external while keeping the personal settings, but worth a shot.

[@Qwompus]

Are axes the obvious comparison to rippers? I always thought of them like the HE's quirkier cousin

[@siirvend]

That's what I've heard personally. I don't equate them personally but I think a lot of people see "sharp metal object that I throw to kill bugs" and make the comparison.

[@anoobyproaz5616]

Shame the sawblade doesn't do melee damage

[@siirvend]

That would've been cool, especially with Vampire

[@scooticrowlann7856]

I hate bugs!

[@literatemax]

I can't believe you didn't mention that axes are laggy and inconsistent garbage unless you're host 😥

[@siirvend]

That's just it, I'm always host *taps head*