Silent Hill 2 PC - Patch 1.04 vs Launch Performance - FSR 3.1 - Frame Generation & More!

[@ZykopathOfficial]

I forgot to mention that AMD Frame Generation has a significant increase in input lag, it's very noticeable, which is the worst thing about it.

[@metroplex29]

It's a really bad implementation , going from using FG in Final Fantasy 16 where it is excellently well implemented to Silent Hill 2 is like, dammmn.

[@AdiiS]

AMD is for poor people, Nvidia is the way to go. When will people finally understand that

[@Chimera_0990tfr]

@@AdiiS ahh kids ....when will these brats grow up

[@metroplex29]

​@@AdiiSThose people will understand the same day you understand that nobody cares.

[@SweetFlexZ]

@@AdiiS Man you're going to get bombarded for telling facts.

[@ChrisAverageYT]

Just a hint - when testing occlusion find a place where there's a lot of things actually occluding each other :) They need to be static too. You won't see much difference in an empty forest with moving foliage. Pick a place with lots of rooms, stuff in them and walls separating (occluding) them.

[@ZykopathOfficial]

I completely missed this point, sometimes we're just too into our minds, we forget obvious things, i will test it in future patches and will showcase it if it makes a difference, thanks!

[@lowlife4x424]

i got rid of most my stutters by deleting the game config file and restarting

[@allan9336]

where can i find that?

[@camirock17]

The dlss thing is they didn't updated to the latest one 3.7.20, they updated it to 3.7.00 that's why the ghosting is still there

[@UltimateLF]

You're wrong. ghosting is because it has preset D as default, choose C or E and there will be no ghosting

[@TheOldKenobi]

You can update by your own with DLSS Swapper

[@GaMerTriXxx]

@@UltimateLF how do i change these presets?

[@UltimateLF]

@@GaMerTriXxx by using DLSSTweaks or through modded Nvidia Inspector

[@OmnianMIU]

​@@GaMerTriXxx using DLSS tweaker

[@FelipeSky17]

This patch bugged the maze, after you pass the first phase of the maze the door remains locked preventing you from proceeding to the second phase of the maze

[@tomthomas3499]

Just use optiscaler, you can control various upscaling option as well as enabling FG with friendly user UI, relying on game devs to properly implement FSR nowadays is too much i guess. Speaking for the patch itself, they fixed alot of stuff including the weird white door textures when you move your camera indoors, as for the stutter though, yeah there's just no avoiding the dreaded UE5 stutters, it's just the nature of the game engine itself sadly.

[@zedsdeadbaby]

AMD frame generation works really well for me, but there's one or two very specific locations where it absolutely tanks the framerate to single digits if you stand in a certain spot. Moving backwards and forwards out of the spot makes the problem go away. It's very strange. The lakeside hotel corridor where the shattered mirror room is has one such spot.

[@PrimeYT10]

You should test in the appartements area, the performance there is a lot worse, the game loses framerate as you progress to the point where it’s impossible to play with sub 30fps, also the gpu power utilization drop significantly from 150w to 80w (not psu issue as I tested it with other games and gpu stress testing power remain constant 150w), also reloading the save file fix the issue for like 2mins and the same story start repeating it self.

[@leedunkin3338]

This is when JackSeptic's playthrough got unwatchable for us and unplayable for him. Everybody is so confused about it. Idk why bloober would allow such glaring tech issues upon release when the rest of the game is so polished.

[@WolfLink423]

Honestly this, I have a pretty respectable PC setup and the performance in later areas of the game is just intolerable. I died a lot of times to the nurses in the Hospital because my PC would arbitrarily drop the game to 0.5FPS for solid two minute stretches. And none of the reviewers mentioned it either... It ruined the moment for me more than once, because it even carries over to cutscenes. You know it's bad when the game can't even run locked at 30 FPS...

[@PrimeYT10]

@@WolfLink423 I finally found a fix for this game, I found a video about the game running using dxvk mod, which makes the game run using Vulkan api, it runs miles better also the gpu seems to work normally and the stutter are almost unnoticeable, you gotta give it a try

[@muddposs]

I just gave up and played on dx11

[@chumorgan443]

Soft locking at cube puzzle.

[@chamacorunner1]

Literally, my step sister said she was stuck and I thought she was in the dryer

[@21backwards78]

​@@chamacorunner1what the hell 😭

[@EricTheBroBean]

The DLSS frame gen was good, i used to run SH2 maxed out every setting but without raytracing in 1440p on Strix 4080 Super OC. I tried DLSS Quality mode with framegen and raytracing, getting close to 200fps, stutters are also a lot less noticeable in this patch with my setup.

[@ViperXtreme]

Occlusion settings makes a huge difference indoors, one sample area is the armory in prison area, HZB murders FPS while disabled and occlusion queries are similar

[@RDSembilanEmpat]

2:58 that is all i need to know from this video 😅 Btw how about inside room, like inside Hotel, are they fixing it yet? Or still too Bright for horror games & must turnON RT to fix it. 🤔

[@oussamaaithadjam9609]

Amd frame gen with a Amd card actually works pretty good it does have some stutters but it boosts my fps from 70 to 135 fps

[@Mr333a222]

At the end, you can clearly see there was more fog on the launch one...

[@HybOj]

So in a nutshell, the patch did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and the biggest highlight is half-assed implementation of FSR and updating DLSS from outdated version to another outdated version, which does not solve ghosting. Man... what?

[@ZykopathOfficial]

Pretty much!

[@bradleymoney07]

Bingo

[@Einuhreins]

AMD FG works great on my end, using a amd GPU.

[@brzimtrco6142]

Only 50% uplift? How is that only? GoW Ragnarök boost my fps by 6-0-70% and it feels much better. 50% may be a bit disappointing but it isn't horrible.

[@ZykopathOfficial]

In addition to the horrible input lag and the worse stutters, it is horrible.

[@LiveSmileD]

Final Fantasy VII has demonstrated excellent optimization for the PS5 Pro despite being developed on Unreal Engine 4! This shows that Unreal Engine 4 can be very well optimized for the PS5 Pro. I also believe that the developers managed to optimize the game effectively due to close collaboration with Sony, as the game is a timed exclusive. However, it’s uncertain whether Silent Hill 2 will allocate sufficient resources for proper optimization in Pro mode. In this case, I believe that the adaptation label indicating that the game is optimized for the PS5 Pro is not entirely justified.

[@davict97br]

The stutter are the scenary loading in from disc, we cant see because of the fog, i dont think this will improve until they change the way it loads, it just pops full rendered in place, try some top notch SSDs This game was also ported from EU4 to EU5, Its not ideal so optimazation was not ideal for it, but it should get better in the future if devs imporve it as well

[@Darth_GreyWolf]

There is already a mod that unlocks FG for DLSS as well

[@shelton9241]

Btw, this update broke the game. Just got past Toluca Prison and now i'm stuck in the Labyrinth. Just got past the rotten room and now the other room won't open. Even bloober is aware and are trying to fix it, but still dissapointing since this is my first playthrough.

[@Decaymee]

My game has felt worse since this patch, areas like the 2nd floor apartments are unloaded for like 15 seconds when i first go there, also areas, 3rd Floor Brookhaven hospital, and exiting the apartments, and more I've also noticed a significant decrease in my fps by about 20 to 40fps, I'm not sure why its worse, when this patch is supposed to fix these issues.

[@sebaj3814]

Do a optimized settings for Pacific drive...

[@shambler7359]

One of those games that will never get fixed on PC face it, or just wait for the Ps5 Pro patch if you want to play without any game breaking interruptions

[@IAMNOTRANA]

Bruh. Still no fix for stutter.

[@elrandom71]

On PS5 there is no such thing 😁

[@PLYTATN]

@@elrandom71 I played both versions and i can confirm the PS5 version stutters too, even more than PC at some part. The problem lies in the game's engine so every port will experience the same performance issues.

[@rashidrehan565]

whats the music at 3:00 ?

[@a2raya772]

25-30fps boost with FG is actually bad

It means the base fps is much worse, then it doubles that lower framerate and ends up with more artifacting and definitely higher input lag. Yes, it's really not good enough.

[@prithishghosh7597]

Can u tell the 3060 u bought in which month and it's price please??

[@maxon4610]

AMD Ryzen 7 4800H with Radeon Graphics 2.90 GHz and rtx2060 6gb and 16gb ram, running on medium at 1920 resolution so far no big issues

[@radityadito922]

How many FPS do you get average?

[@maxon4610]

@@radityadito922 Oh and i use ULTRA PERFOMANCE in DLSS, even if i switch to PERFOMANCE its still ok but cutscenes drops to like 10fps. everything else is MEDIUM, RAY TRAYCING OFF

[@maxon4610]

@@radityadito922 most of time like 37-50 sometimes it goes to even 72 but i think its a glitch but so far its pretty playable i mean i dont feel like it bothers me i dont feel it as it just keeps going down and up in some locations, the only problem i have is the cutscenes it drops to like 25 sometimes....

[@foxy4274]

So, is it normal for this game to drop to 20 fps? When you turn on the AMD frame generation, there is a very stutter as in the video 3:16

[@KabuteGaming]

If Ray Tracing is turned ON, then yes. It will have a huge FPS drop and stutter if FG is turned on for FSR 3.1. Tested multiple times and horrible stutters before cut scenes always happen when both Ray Tracing and FG are turned on.

[@GugureSux]

It's very common for this game to drop to ZERO frames per second, thanks to those traversal hickups. Of course this depends on your hardware and settings. My old GTX 1060 6GB can do 1080p at 40-50fps average at the starting areas on low settings, no upscalers. TSR takes it to 50-60. Modded FSR3.1 frame generation ups the average to 70-80 indoors if I uncap the framerate limit, and contrary to this video's claims, helped my stutters.

[@saizo1219]

I wonder, I was looking for a way to speed run the game for the trophy, as i truly hate new game's Trophy/Achievements to speed run the game no matter what. I searched online and i read if you leave the save file to reach 24 hours and then finish the game you'll get the trophy. Now my question is.. is this patch fixed this glitch?

[@saizo1219]

Edit: I just waited 24 hours in the save file and I got the trophy, so they didn't patch it yet, you guys better hurry if you hate speedruns

[@TahaTaha-xx9vj]

thanks

[@Alexey_Ivanov330]

STUTTER HILL 2

[@Toma4449]

@@ProjectMore69 This has nothing to do with having a weak PC. I'm playing the game with optimized settings with a rtx 3080 & i7 13700k and it's stuttering like crazy.

[@leedunkin3338]

@@Toma4449 I heard something about this having to do with them choosing the game being built in Unreal 4 instead of 5, which was apparently ill advised. You heard anything similar?

[@elrandom71]

Get it on console bro no stutters there

[@bananaphone3754]

@@leedunkin3338This is an unreal engine 5 game. This is not using unreal engine 4. Rendering techniques used like nanite and lumen are not available in unreal engine 4. Traversal stutter is a very common problem in games with large maps in unreal engine 5. But the problem has existed for generations at this point. I believe Arkham city used unreal engine 3 and still has unavoidable traversal stutters to this day. I don’t necessarily believe it’s an inherent problem with engine, I think it’s a problem with devs just not knowing how to properly handle loading/unloading assets in the engine. With how frequent the problem is in unreal engine, however, it does seem to me like there’s something making the problem far more complicated to solve in this engine as opposed to others.

[@bananaphone3754]

@@elrandom71it still stutters on console, you just aren’t noticing the stutters. Watch the digital foundry video about this game on PC. Alex clearly demonstrates that the stutters absolutely happen on PS5 in the same places. It’s just harder to dig into the technical side because of how limiting consoles are in collecting data.

[@rowdyrager-9403]

Give us green hyper spray

[@sirwolfy2639]

It's bad if the game use de 100% of the GPU? Im worried

[@gunaraj2626]

Testing the game they did fix many things but nothing related to performance.

[@Glyph69]

they only rearranged some cutscnees and fixed few visual glitches but nothing related to performance or stutters

[@zozstar]

Many people like my self said they wouldn't fix the traversal stutters because it can't be improved, and they don't know how. But don't worry guys, Blooper team already announced their new game!!! They don't deserve your money, just pirate it .

[@sergiopais8788]

now there is a bug in the maze.. sad

[@VuBeClan]

I have over 120FPS with AMD Frame Gen... somethings wrong with ur rig, no real noticible input lag too on a 6950XT/5900X

[@leedunkin3338]

Even as a layman I was shocked by how low the frame rate got in JackSeptic's playthrough. Some of the fights were unwatchable. I can't imagine how embarrassed he was, but then, it obviously wasn't his fault. SH2 RM is amazing but the tech issues it has is an interesting fumble.

[@Spr1ggan87]

The latest version of DLSS is 3.7.2, not 3.7.0

[@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage]

and is that supposed to fix the ghosting?

[@Spr1ggan87]

@@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage Upscalers and framegen always work like shit on UE so no. Man i utterly detest UE.

[@alexmontoya2312]

I have a CPU AMD Ryzen 7 4000 and AMD Radeon™ RX 5500M with 4GB GDDR6. Which settings are the Best for me?

[@jacksonedwards9803]

new computer

[@gunaraj2626]

In this game you have to think about stability not fps, and the biggest problem is the vram usage, since everything on low at 1080p uses 7GB, so try everything on low at 720p at 30fps

[@PrasannaDatta008]

Buy a new rig😂

[@GugureSux]

Low settings + modded FSR 3.1 frame generation, on Balanced settings.

[@rejectxz]

low+ silent hill essentials mod performance maybe. its on nexusmods

[@Andriej69]

So It looks like I won't be wasting time on oatching this shit, with some mods from Nexus I've got consistent 170 frames with RT and minimal lag with FSR

[@JvanEdits]

Same with me, this patch only brought more issues than fixes lmao, once again people who pay for games get a crappy experience, I'm glad I cracked it on October 6th, and after a few mods out there, my game is running just fine and I'm really glad with it

[@Andriej69]

@@JvanEdits Same for me, unless future patches bring some major fixes or new content, I won't be bothering torrenting the "appropriate" versions

[@JvanEdits]

@@Andriej69 it's the best way 🤝

[@Andriej69]

@@JvanEdits Yep

[@DylanZ1201]

I really don’t think this game will be fixed to a level that most will want. Blooper Team and optimised games don’t go hand in hand. Performance will most likely stay the same as launch even with future patches.

[@xTerrySunderlandx]

dlss will always be better, fsr is WAY different and far more impressise

[@mmo1618]

ونعم

[@cvilla6664]

My versión with configuration on Engine.ini and amd FG enable is better.

[@SiqFix]

What helps with the performance and stuttering is… Shadows: Low Shaders: Medium Effects: Medium

[@Andrzej_Szpadel]

shadows on low makes volumetric fog and lighting look like ass with pixel size of James's head

[@SiqFix]

@@Andrzej_Szpadel not when you are in 1440p buddy

[@Glyph69]

@@Andrzej_Szpadel no it does not even on 1080p shadows play like the least role in this game and for some reasons shadows take like half the fps

[@Andrzej_Szpadel]

@@SiqFix I I've finished game at 1440p and switched to medium shadows as volumetric lighting looked like ass It's shadow setting I know but it changes much more than that

[@SiqFix]

@@Andrzej_Szpadel I think you need to get better monitor lol

[@madhunter6420]

I still see some face artifacts on this protagonist when using DLSS. like it has some weird black haze going around

[@cctv2500]

Dlss and the other upscalers are all🗑️, native will always be better than fake resolutions...

[@chiptunegalaxy160]

Dude, don't shit on FSR.🤨 Huang screwed you with frame generation in DLSS on RTX 3060. I got 165 fps with FSR on ultra settings on 1440p without ray tracing.

[@OmnianMIU]

Shut up tech illiterate, FStRash still garbage for ever, leave with truth!

[@vasilykiselev6285]

But fsr runs like shit on nvidia cards in this game at least, input lag is too big, have you tried using dlss frame gen mode?

[@OmnianMIU]

@vasilykiselev6285 do you mean upscaler or framegen??

[@chiptunegalaxy160]

@@vasilykiselev6285 I optimised game switched it on Vulkan API. I have no lags and statters. Found this guides on youtube.

[@vasilykiselev6285]

@@OmnianMIU i mean the fsr 3.1 framegen gives me like 0.5 second input lag in this game, i tried moding in the dlss frame gen cause my card is 3060 aswell but for some reason any mod i download only had dlls to fsr. Ini. File instead of dlss to fsr.dll so i just forgot about it, the game runs fine anyway except for weird fps drops in some areas

[@W4ny0]

idk if its just me but 60fps lock doesnt work for me

[@Krezyd]

And nvidia FG is bad as well so much ghosting and tearing issues in it .. bad implementation

[@sm4sh3d]

Awfully disappointing patch

[@Glyph69]

@@ProjectMore69 what is with you and toasters lol

[@GugureSux]

@@Glyph69 Not an argument, jeet shill. Your UE5 clusterfuck looks worse than some 10 year old games, yet runs worse. And don't get me started with the story and gameplay fuckups and pure DEI censorship.

[@Zetsumei88]

FSR 3.1 frame gen works just fine for me and I don't suffer the issues that you do. Must be your potato CPU.

[@aerisarrangements6157]

Okay mister, you have the best pc in the world and suffer no stutter or frame rate issues. Fuck off, stop jerking off to bad pc ports whilst calling other people's computers potatoes. You shouldn't need a 2 grand pc just to play a game.

[@EREH_537]

true my game also runs great, these overthinkers only play for the frames and not enjoy the gameplay

[@victortodd8478]

This is a fkn joke, the game was running for me very decently with only some of stuttering but after the patch the game is completely broken for me, I reinstalled but that not work either, now I have stuttering every 2 seconds when I look with camera and my gpu heat increased too, im very angry why always a patch turns the game into a complete mess when it supposed to do the opposite

[@AlanMitsuki]

I found a possible fix from someone else, you can try deleting the old shader cache in this directory: C:\Users\user\App Data\LocalLow\NVIDI A\PerDriverVersion\DXCache

[@notmandolorian]

disappointed by bloober team as first game i try by them.

[@denisruskin348]

I was hoping we could combo AMD FG with DLSS as that's what most 2000 and 3000 users would chose. Locking it behind FSR 3.1 which is so inferior...I'd rather play without FG. Same for Reflex, locked for 4000 series users... Bloober... PD: Nevermind, the AMD FG in this title is dogshit. Not missing anything then.

[@AmereTO0o]

Can you do Fortnite it's the most unoptimized game I have ever played

[@OmnianMIU]

And FStRash still garbage😂

[@lawnmanGman]

lol, interpolation with an extra step with "dedicated hardware" taking 8ms at 60fps is SO FUNNY glad i dont pc game

[@jackfavvv0280]

They still didn't fix Angela's face, unfortunately.

[@24Steevy]

One of the heaviest part of the game is the apartmants. I easily got 60fps with this game but the apartmants 40-50fps and stuttery as hell.