Silent Hill 4: The Room Lore & Analysis Run - Part 1 [Live: 02-28-20]

[@fungo]

I was still waking up right at the start of this stream. Woke with allergies which made my voice pretty harsh. I do liven up as the stream goes on. Part 2 will be uploaded later today.

[@jenovaloz3108]

Fungo No worries 😉

[@H2BH4U]

@Linda Niemkiewicz SSRIs Oh i mean... He moved to a new area..??

[@Anthony-xd1lj]

Don't you miss twin perfect Dustin? you always quoting them, was it true you split from them cos of a woman and you had a fight with one of them presenters

[@M_reapr]

Hey buddy miss you posting hope your doing alright

[@bills-beard]

2:35:30 love when even the lore runner learns something on the run. What a wholesome community

[@orakulooo]

It's funny how despite having a large bed, Henry has a single pillow. As if he couldn't even entertain the possibility of having someone else besides him.

[@electricfishfan]

Lol. He also seems to have simply reused Joseph’s bed that was left there, which is a bit morose. He recognizes it in the nightmare.

[@Zmax15]

I never saw a pro lore-run before now. Very cool.

[@PurpleTetra]

Fungo Lore Runs are the best runs 💪

[@electricfishfan]

Just started the vid and I totally agree with the tragic lack of character development, HOWEVER I’ll defend Cynthia’s death as the only killing which was well-executed. Her entire presentation hammers home that she is an audience surrogate, goofing off & not taking the game seriously yet, and then we see her die for her belief, that “it’s just a dream,” which is integrated into Henry and the player’s understandings. We didn’t need any more information about her to establish an effective narrative device-in fact I think the whole, ‘treated Walter callously in the subway one time’ backstory info makes her death less impactful because she now ‘deserves it’ for unrelatable reasons plus she shares too much in common with Eileen. It’s too coincidental. Cynthia was the _only_ victim which made sense to be just some random sexy woman Walter chose.

[@A_Red_Pyramid]

SH4 got me into the series, and I will always appreciate it for that. Having replayed it recently, I noticed a lot more of its pros and cons. I still think the story and music are excellent, but the idea that the development was rushed makes a lot of sense. For me, the biggest flaw is the lack of puzzles. They are few and far between, and what puzzles there are are pitifully easy. They don't mesh well at all with the precedent set by earlier puzzles in the series, nor the mature subject matter of the game.

[@Messier_-82]

Silent Hill 4 was one of the first game I’ve ever played. It introduced me to Silent Hill. One of my favourite games of all time. Love every aspect of the game good or bad

[@cthulhuchan9587]

Silent Hill 4: The Womb

[@ComfortZoneComic]

Oh god yes let's watch this

[@Brucie129]

I won't lie to this day I still consider Silent Hill 4 to be one of the scariest in the series (right behind 3 in my opinion) and its because I always feel under pressure while exploring the different levels the ghosts are a huge factor in this but at the same time the way the levels are used keeps me from enjoying as much as I could if all of them where in different locations

[@M_reapr]

It's scary to me because I've lived in an apt my whole life basically so it really reaches into my safe place and attempts to warp that as well as the themes of the maternal the mother and rebirth these themes are really hard to tackle and to most people are repressed and confronting them can lead to existential crisis

[@Nemesis_T-Type]

3:54:38 ''The lore introduced in Silent Hill 4 is absurd, like the circular prison'' Is anyone gonna tell them that Silent Hill 3 introduced the prison and not 4?

[@M_reapr]

Imagine if they had more time to make the second time through levels dramatically different as if the world changed like james mold or heathers rust and orange ect ect except when the world changes in 4 it changes to the ghosts fears or walters fears of killing them something thematic thats noticeable that wouldve been sick shame games are alwayyys rushed

[@MitchellHammond]

You couldn't predict where you'd land after a dive with MGSV's mechanics? Yes you could. You move in the direction you want to go and that's it. The game's controls are incredibly fine tuned and intuitive.

[@TheVolginator]

Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard the controls criticised. It's the story that is boners

[@Cwebowen]

Love your videos man!

[@Scorpio_Rising_1]

I’m pretty sure Henry is a stoner. He’s fucking baked throughout the whole game.

[@M_reapr]

He's chosen as the receiver of wisdom a neutral third party meant to observe the ritual thus his ambiguous and seemingly detached attitude is purposeful and could be a result of the ritual itself or it could be a result of his own personality and him being chosen because of his personality it's up to interpretation at that point but if we look not solely on realism but on symbology it makes sense

[@LozzySullivan]

‘God’ in Silent Hill is always depicted as a woman. The ‘Lord’ was referring to the god of the Abrahamic faiths. Kinda maddening how everyone was just going along with that radical misreading of core lore there. The ‘Lord’ is not Walter. His world stands as ‘an abomination’ against God. He’s also not actually Silent Hill, he’s just granted an element of its power by completing The Ritual of Assumption. The Cult wanted to rebirth their God if Alyssa failed to work out, Walter was their back-up plan. He’s not the town, he’s not the Lord. :/

[@FishboyAbzu]

Yeah what he said sounded so wrong lol

[@Scorpio_Rising_1]

Yeah I agree with this. I typically agree with Fungo’s theories but in that bit he was going at it completely wrong.

[@M_reapr]

That's not true especially if your referring to to 3 the god in three was changed because alessa destroyed their plans and they couldn't just worship someone who destroyed their own gods rebirth so they twisted the cults teachings painting alessa as a god and writing out Dahlia and others it's all propaganda In the third game just think back to Vincent's interview with another cult member on the radio they have no clue what happened The symbology of the incubus is obvious it's called the incubus because it was incubated in alessa and it's based off baphomet because it's literally based off of Satan Samael they are one and the same we find out that alessas attempt to seal Samael with the seal of metatron failed because it wasn't the seal of metatron but the seal of Samael which couldn't possibly block the gods rebirth because it is the same power

[@H2BH4U]

Always enjoyed your insight into the world of SH

[@richmon0177]

Don't go out -Walter It is very clear, just telling him as you said it

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

Damn. I'm actually making a game that has very similiar themes. And it was hugely inspired by this game. But the more I get into Sh4 and see your analysis of it, it just sounds bizzarrely similiar. Like whoever was in charge of the themes, me and him were definately in the same headspace. Like the fact that Henry is socially awkward and doesnt get out much, so when he gets stuck in his apartment, it doesnt bother him as much as it would other people. But the situation none the less forces him to break out of the room ,and at the same time, forces him to socialize.

[@vatsalgada4573]

What game you making??

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

@@vatsalgada4573 Its a point and click horror adventure game Like in this, youre stuck in your apartment, but it focuses more on room section. You have to figure out way to escape. And theres a lot of nightlife outside to look at and stuff to examine. Game focuse mainly on story and atmosphere.

[@vatsalgada4573]

@@GreedAndSelfishness is it a work in progress or is it finished? And what is the game's name?

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

@@vatsalgada4573 Its work in progress. Might get to finish it during summer. And I dont want to say the the name yet.

[@TheVolginator]

GreedAndSelfishness say it!!!

[@LordDravek]

Walter's world is a very strange and dangerous place, but at least you won't catch Corona.

[@jenovaloz3108]

Silent Hill 4 is just a fun and creepy experience, would’ve LOVED to seen what Team Silent would’ve down if they created one last game after 4, a true Silent Hill 5

[@Elpfa]

good game

[@HornedBee]

I disagree about walter beign manifestation of the town. Walter is a lunatic who just kills people for the ritual, he doesnt have any wisdom to his actions, the town on the other hand is more like a purgatory, it gives people a chance to face their dark side and fight it and become a better vestion of themselves e.g. sh 2&3

[@M_reapr]

The spiritual power of the town is ambiguous and seemingly neutral UNTIL the cult uses that power and warps it towards their beliefs ultimately changing the essence of that spiritual power using the god changes that power at its core thus when he says Walter being a manifestation of the town it's saying that the god born from the cult who used the energy of the town is true because the god is influencing Walter through the cult and the cult is using Walter as an alternative to birth the god and the god is using the cult to be birthed so it's circular and not mutually exclusive

[@rikyjacho9653]

so, if this silent hill wasn't a good game sequel, then what silent hill version was?

[@呼吸-e9b]

3. 4 is unfinished game with extraordinary ammount of potential to become the magnum opus of silent hill

[@Demigod_3scrub]

You resemble bawkbasoup.. like u could be his bro.. no cap