Silent Hill Mythology - The Tarot Cards

[@raccooncitygunclub]

Early bird gets the horrifying Silent Hill worm.

[@GallarnHorde]

You mean Larva?

[@Jack_Woods]

Early bird gets the flesh eating parasite that is their repressed inner sins

[@ChibiBoxing]

@@GallarnHorde THE METALLIC ARCHAEA

[@andressauvage7738]

The earth IS NOT A FUCKING GLOBE ITS FUCKING FLAT NASA FUCKIN LIED TO YPU USVALL I LOVE BUTTFUCKING

[@romeants8049]

VERY interesting. Extremely thought-provoking. That’s a helluva crescendo of a question left as a cliffhanger. Yet it’s also fascinating as we’ve depicted these archetypes throughout human existence. I’m sure you’re familiar but Jordan Peterson often speaks about the archetype of the hero, and it’s parallels into mapping out the format of being the best and bravest we possibly could be (like confronting the metaphorical dragon in our lives, or the thing we are most afraid of but must confront in order to better ourselves). Being a Karl Jung fan while at the same time growing up with silent hill 1-3, I’m assuming the KZbin algorithm is working terrifyingly well. Amazing video

[@3vanguardofthephoenix335]

Now look into alchemy You're welcome, love ya dude!

[@espio30]

This is the second time today I heard a youtuber say that Persona helped them understand the themes of a different franchise

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

Synchronicity?

[@onejediboi]

You should do a video in the prison on SH2, also great video.

[@maxderrat]

Hmmmm... good call...

[@MatthewBester]

"Ritual"

[@Zayindjejfj]

@@MatthewBester "Are you sure?"

[@burstingolem8023]

the spider mannequin above James in the box art for the prison has prolly never appeared or been explained in any form for example

[@TheJackal917]

This level is so good, it creeps me out every time I play, and I play annualy.

[@rimjobledouche5201]

I'm so excited to watch this, Max. The moment I put my son to bed, I'm loading this up.

[@isaiasrico589]

I’m glad you are making the kind of videos I truly want to watch!! The esoteric symbolism written into video games is something I’ve always been really invested in!!! I feel like the legacy of Kain and destiny franchises have a lot to offer when it comes to occult snd esoteric symbolism

[@craigbolton2231]

Ah this fills my addiction for psychological analysis vids. I dont play silent hill but I always love the symbolism. Now you talking about persona and you've tapped into my other addiction. I'm all up for deep dives into persona symbolism, they're some of my favourite games I've ever played

[@michellereionodera]

holy shit you should play the first four SH games if you ever get the chance

[@craigbolton2231]

@@michellereionodera horror games are something I absolutely love the concept but never seem to finish them. Usually just watch a let's play. But If I see them kicking about I'll give it a shot

[@battelchicken2]

I read Tarot cards and I see this kind of stuff all the time in media! It's crazy!

[@GreyOatmeal]

Thank goodness for another vid Max, your videos are just about the only things keeping me sane these days.

[@MaestroMecaEric]

In persona 4 they use fog in the game, and algo it's an important part of the game

[@Amarant127]

And the main theme of the game is about the chars facing themselves.

[@fulcrummurdock778]

Finally!! Another great master piece for the series. Thank you very much Max After a number of these you could put together all the silent hill videos for one single film documentary. May the force be with you always 🎬🎥🌫

[@Ryan_McGee]

You make such incredible videos, I always look forward to watching them. Even ones I've seen many times before.

[@lordofPockets]

awesome max, thanks for the new video, i love that today we can keep diging this game and come by more and more significant for each little thing of the games

[@cookie88512]

I LOVE THIS FUCKING GUY HOLY SHIT i found you like 3 days ago and all it took was this series for you to become my favorite youtuber ever. the synchronicities and sound logic and extensive research fuels the hell out of my manic introspection/analysis and it is so stimulating

[@lorenzonioi7855]

Max you're the best

[@WobblesandBean]

Excellent dissertation 💜 I LOVE persona and SH3, and I feel kinda silly now not recognizing the connection until you pointed it out.

[@VagrantDune]

Great video! Incredibly interesting.

[@Halden.]

Another A+ video, good job Max.

[@snailelbows4577]

Keep doing silent hill videos max 🐐

[@far_away_rhys]

Love your silent hill lore vids, cheers big man.

[@nikifora.738]

I love your videos about silent hill! Your analysis is always very well reasoned. You could say, I am a max derrat fanboy! Cheers from Greece!

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

HOW'S ABOUT HOOKING A BROTHER UP WITH A GYRO?! 🥪

[@nikifora.738]

@@dlbyrd-gasca2730 Any time, brother!

[@shadowwolf1355]

Xenogears for PS1 has alot of inspiration from Carl Jung. Definitely worth a play.

[@will-i-am6225]

You have a beautiful mind, Max.

[@_thebigsteve]

That ending low key blew mind tbh 😱👀🧠

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

0:45 LOL, for all of us who just so happened to know that subway trains are in fact Max'es only weakness. 😂

[@maxderrat]

Shhhhhh... :P

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

@@maxderrat 🤐

[@phoenixman4510]

I wouldn't say you're underrated, everyone who watches you seems to appreciate the depth in your videos. But you're definitely underviewed, hopefully you grow to a continually larger audience until you achieve the World Arcana!

[@Atamosk-bu7zt]

Always hype for your take on the symbology of games.

[@eliadarutherford9227]

that conclusion at the end made me like the video

[@354Entertainment]

What a marvelous video this is! i love it, when u talking about jung and his archetypes. one of the best youtuber on the whole world, go on Max!

[@d.palefish6882]

I don't remember who mentioned it, but it's been said that, the reason why God had Alessa's face in Silent Hill 3 was because that's how Claudia imagined God's appearance (which makes sense due to how highly she thought of Alessa, not to mention Alessa's being worshiped by the Order as a saint). Though that doesn't necessarily discount the facing oneself theory.

[@jagergerg9771]

Max is amazing, I love every video, so mind bending.

[@thedanielstraight]

Persona 3 really got me interested in Tarot. This was a brilliant video, Max.

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

Your content is awesome as usual

[@gozinta82]

Thank you for another insightful video, using the Silent Hill universe. :) Always a treat, Max!

[@Karadras1178]

Great video ! Thank you for keeping making original content about Silent Hill.

[@kalypsodeepsea982]

As a tarot practitioner, this is interesting. I never have seen it like this. Great work, my Lord! 💙🙏🏻🧜🏼‍♀️

[@raioh4747]

Great video Max, tarot is really interesting, been studying them for a few years, great stuff! Just a little suggestion, the "spoiler alert" was kinda sudden with no indication to what would be spoiled, I haven't had the chance to play P5 yet bc I don't have money for a console, but the series is a fav of mine, so I've been avoiding spoilers about it to this day. I know that the journey from the Fool to the World is the only logical path for the story, so it's not too much of a spoiler, but just thoiught I'd share what I thought, can never be too careful with these things for those games are wonderfull experiences Anyways, love you videos! allways exciting to see that notification of upload, thanks for your work, cheers!

[@cyberlingbot3d896]

Wow that's nuts. I really can't get enough of these silent hill lore videos.

[@catmadethat]

That was amazing, thank you

[@joeswansonanator]

Great vid, Max

[@johnathansfacew8528]

Great video Max

[@enricofornasa2331]

Thank you Max....Thank you.

[@LimitlessPotential12]

man I wanna do videos like these but damn where do I even begin finding all this stuff. Great job man

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

Yeah I know! 😆👍

[@inuzi]

Such a good video, I really enjoyed this one. I would like to suggest RagnarRox videos on Valtiel and The Yellow God. They might spark some ideas regarding SH3 lore and psychological analysis.

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

I like your suggestions, but Max might've already seen those videos.👍

[@desh4387]

Ow boy... Never gets old...

[@MRIBEIROPONTES]

How I fucking missed these videos.

[@NachozMan]

Hey Max, really love your videos covering mysticism, esotercism, and their relations to video games. Would you happen to know any good books for learning about the Tarot, Sacred Geometry, Law's of Attraction/The Will to Power, ect?

[@wayfarerzen]

Really cool video. I've always found the idea of archetypes fascinating, and if you want to do a further deep dive into this, it actually goes quite far beyond what just the Tarot displays. Archetypes also take the form of abstract symbols, such as the crossed circle (4 seasons, something humans have experienced since the beginning), the eye in the triangle (more than just spooky illuminati stuff, it originally symbolized illumination of the mind's eye, which is more or less how you view the world), and the seed/tree/fruit of life. There are many others that can be considered archetypal, would be awesome to see if they show up in video games such as this.

[@earthmanbrick]

Really cool video, saw you're a regular on Honey Badgers & figured I'd check this channel out. Now I understand why you're so popular. Great breakdown

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

Sorry, Honey Badgers?

[@earthmanbrick]

@@dlbyrd-gasca2730 HoneyBadgerRadio

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

@@earthmanbrick Oh, I see! Thanks! 😀👍

[@vesselofcalamity8107]

Hey Max, I love the topics you discuss in your videos. Perhaps you could take your understanding of Jung and make a video covering certain aspects of Dungeons and Dragons?

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

I'd love to see that!

[@Gfgggg224]

Great video!

[@korsoupp6450]

"Honey wakeup new MAX DERRAT SILENT HILL MYTHOLOGY video"

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

Ah yes, Persona vibes.

[@LouisianaGirly]

You make some of the best video essays

[@ashclaw2306]

That was an interesting take. Now time to go to enjoy this game again.

[@Th3Raz96]

Isn't it crazy how even two decades+ later we're not only still coming up with different theories and analyses of these games, but they're still _interesting_ too?? This might be one my longest running passions in my whole life now, I get tired of everything else after a point, but Silent Hill just _stays_ neat

[@mniakan3544]

Great and thought provoking video as always and I wanted to ask for a favor if you don't mind. I'm planning on making a silent hill story or a fan fiction or whatever you wanna call it and the story is there and the ending and the characters and the theme but it's kinda lacking in the methodology and monsters department and what I wanted to ask is that is there anything like books or games and stuff you could recommend to me that I could use?

[@AetherealAlchemist]

Nice work, Max. I read tarot and study Jung and I really appreciated this. I did notice the "eye of night" which isn't a tarot card (perhaps they meant "the star"?) But it makes me wonder why they would have chosen those specific cards in the High Arcana. It seems like the Persona team have a little more knowledge of Tarot too.

[@rhoadestyler321]

Astrology also heavily influenced the Tarot.

[@619to974]

amazing work and eloquently explained ;)

[@keinan7667]

Great video as always. Kinda makes me wish the tarot was a bit more inspired in Jojo but whatcha gonna do :)

[@apathtrampledbydeer8446]

Your videos are always great, thank you!!

[@Tonbizzle]

it's always an interesting question of whether artists are consciously aware of the story they're telling. If you ask any musician, the likely response will be an honest and passionate "It's just what I felt at the time." And I trust that's so much the truth to all art, whether it be writing, painting, music, or any amalgamation. We all know the creators of Silent Hill were well versed in mythologies and symbolism, from many sources, but it's that culmination of information and how they processed it that allowed them to tell this story in this specific way, to us, the viewer/reader/player. Tales of hope, despair, delusion, but seemingly above all else, passion.

[@JoshWiniberg]

Weird how the subconscious works - works of art can be as mysterious to their creator as their audience. I never know what my music is about until months after it's written. I only figure out the track/album names once it's recorded and ready to be released.

[@dontstop2517]

nietzsche implemented the concept of self first, in this case heather not only confronts the dark origin of herself but also triumphs and finally becomes a more pure version of her self.

[@TheShaneCheshire]

I'm so stoked for this vid.

[@More_Row]

Good video Max.

[@ChibiBoxing]

This is amazing...thanks for your content.

[@Halden.]

I almost bought the SH HD collection a couple days ago, it’s on sale on the Xbox store and, at the moment, it seems the HD collection is the only way I’ll get to play SH3 anytime soon. I’m still considering it but I probably won’t go through with it.

[@FJ1499]

ITS not that bad the HD collection I recomend It however It has the basics of the og version including born from a wish. It was never bugged for me. Don't consider the game thrash just for some bad reviews of secondary issues about the game. HD collection Is really good for introducing new people to the saga.

[@Lilnaomi3]

I understand this video is taken from a jungian perspective and one element of tarrot, with that it mind it seems things may have been missed. Douglas and heather both identify him as the fool in the theme park. In his dealing with Claudia, Heather and his son he meets the criteria for that card. Harry's dillema is in line with the dual aspects of the Hanged man, this is detailed in his diary that Heather finds in the church.

[@Andriej69]

I think I'm gonna read a bit more about it, thx man

[@TitoVespasianus]

By knowing which archetypes you are living right now, you can predict what outcomes you will get in your life. So (kinda) predicting your future. Also by knowing which archetypes you're living rn, you can try to change and advance in your journey to become your true self.

[@double_anarchy]

Great video, brought some new ideas to my attention. Thank you.

[@maxderrat]

Great! Thanks so much for watching, man!

[@superchaoshoto6791]

Book reference: The archetypes and the collective unconscious

[@omni-man.2929]

Love your videos man great work!! Hope you’re doing good

[@Joe-pb4ol]

I appreciate the analysis, and find tarot card analysis videos even when they touch on the metaphysical still fun. But I am leaving a comment because there is a lot of misinformation about Tarot cards. They never were meant for fortune telling that came a few 100 years after they were created, they were for playing games. They are no more intune with archetypes than Chance cards in monopoly. Also tarot cards, had cards added to it(like the minichiate cards) and cards changed(the ship, the 4 moors, etc) from time to time so its not something that has thought to be set in stone or even all that intentional(from outside of a gameplay perspective). For example the Fool was a card that represented a poor begger, who was meant to be laughed at. (Tarot cards were designed for the upper class, he is depicted as showing his butt afterall) It does not represent a hero, or innocence.

[@benfrancois7856]

Another great video

[@VindensSaga]

What's the difference between collective unconcious/concious and the noosphere?

[@SK3III3]

I'm addicted!

[@Sanslife100]

Usually the Fool is both 0 and XXII, representing the cyclical nature of life and eternally being at the beginning of new cycles, but the Eye of Night's juxtaposition with the Fool interrupts the cycle and suggests a permanent ending.

[@jbear3478]

I think I've read that smiling is universal as well among humans

[@ivratsdargy955]

I really enjoyed the connection to jung's theories and the concluding connection to heather facing God itself, however, for a further insight into the connections between the cards and the characters they represent I would highly recommend checking out a video by TheGamingMuse on the same topic.

[@bloodblues85]

Very cool! :)

[@SonicfanTheNightfury5099]

Wooohoo more Silent Hill

[@jipowap]

For the love of god please talk about the Eye of Night card they invent.

[@GregoMetalGamer]

Hi Max, another great video as always. As i hope that you're able to check my comment on a sea of them i really recommend you checking the SMT series, they're the mainline series from where persona comes from. Each one of them have their own unique and great story accompanied by fun but challenging gameplay. Keep up the good work and i hope you're able to check them out, the ones i'd recommend to start would be either Shin Megami Tensei IV or any of the ds titles (which also got remastered ports on 3ds)

[@LordEmperorBoss]

That awkward moment when you realize Persona is actually low key a Silent Hill Game.

[@mercurymachines4311]

This was great 👏🏻

[@juancarlosparrasanchez4913]

kinda very late to the discussion as I hadn't seen the video until now. I have a lot to add to the topic as I've been studying occult subjects the past few years and Tarot was one of the first I studied and the one I have a deepest grasp on. To make matters short, the archetypal nature of tarot is not a jungian concept in itself, the process of reading tarot boils down to pulling these cards and interpreting their meaning together ( supposedly through some kind of magic or divine guidance). we do not know the origins of it too well but it seems to have been modified and derived from previous card games, what we do know is it had been used as a divination method for at least a century when Jung came around. As to if Persona took inspiration from Silent hill: I don't really see it, maybe a bit from persona 3 onwards in some ambience aspects like the fog in 4. Tarot has been a major symbological resource and central theme in the series since P1 released in 96, And, having played all of the Shin Megami Tensei games excluding 1 and 2, the change from SMT to Persona is merely one of macrocosmos to microcosmos, it is simply a shift from humanity to the individual and from broader philosophical concepts to existencialist ones. I think herein lies the real link in the comparison you made, tarot uses symbologic archetypes to show the different stages one might undergo in their path to enlightment and spiritual completion, wich inherently, lends itself to an exploration of psychology and existencialist concepts.

[@NicNico]

As a Buddhist, I can firmly say that a concept such as the Universal Mind is not commonly shared among Buddhists, and I think the source shared in this video is spurious at best. The way this concept is discussed in Jungian literature is probably linked to his observations of the Mandala and similar concepts in esoteric Buddhism. But he also interpreted these things via his understanding of alchemy and its adoption of Buddhist philosophy. There are distantly related concepts, but more often than not, they are meant to contrast the Upanishadic Hindu concept of the Braman (the omnipotent cosmic deity that all humans share consciousness with)... maybe I should make a video commentary about this... Anyways, thanks for your content. It is refreshing to see people still dedicating time and thought to Silent Hill and its mysteries. [iaap.org/resources/academic-resources/collected-works-abstracts/volume-12-psychology-alchemy/ ; and see Jung, Psychology and Alchemy]

[@Mo-fx2ud]

hold on babe. sex can wait again. Max just uploaded another video.

[@andresymedio625]

Hey Max! Have you ever read the camic by Alan Moore called Promethea? specifically issue #12? I'd really suggest you take a look at it as it focuses on the archetypes found in the tarot and how they're not only relevant to the inner but also the outer world and universal history. it's pretty interesting stuff, I wholeheartedly recommend you check it out!

[@syynoflaw4718]

Harry is the Hermit.

[@odeon6139]

Theoretically, could there be a way to reconcile or at least explain how synchronicity events are derivative from people's tethers to the collective unconscious, if we would be to consider the self unconscious as a the totality (not the sum) of one's subjective inductions synthesized through the logos, or cognitive appreciation and apprehension of events, ever evolving surroundings and decay of oneself ?

[@StarshipJais]

+1, take this comment for your algo, great shit as always.

[@alcar32sharif]

I recently start to play Silent Hill 2 Ehanced Edition and big question comes back to my mind. Who or what is Laura? After watching this video, I am convinced that Laura is also representation of an archetype, or in more details she is the representation of two archetypes. The Innocent and the Orphan. So Laura isn't a real person. She is also a manifestation of James mind.

[@cheliiiii]

12:20 - Bars.

[@sebastianpost7237]

Did you ever make a video on the S.T.A.L.K.E.R games? I don’t know when but I remember something from you investigating Eastern European horror and themes associated with it.

[@inesproxima]

I'm disappointed you didn't even mention the Eye of Night card. Considering it's a fictitious card created for the game, it's the most interesting one.

[@lemondover434]

>Foggy town with fog related events that manifest peoples innermost psychological problems into reality with heavy influence from Tarot card motifs and Jungian Psychology Silent Hill/Persona 4 Crossover when?

[@Arkhamfrost]

Do you do song analysis? Because the silent hill 3 Song (Rain of brass petals) would be a interesting video... especially it's lyrics