Silent Hill Origins Development History | What Happened to Silent Hill on PSP?

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

I cannot imagine how much stress and crunch those poor developers were under. It must have been absolutely brutal working on this game.

[@24fretsoffury]

Konami really needs better leadership, the current exec’s are running the company and it’s IP’s into the ground. It’s almost like they are squeezing as much money from the company before they bankrupt the company, and they retire. Just horrible, old-school, spiteful old men.

[@Housesider]

I've been saying it for *years* now but it's really incredible that Climax UK was able to salvage the sordid state of the scraps Climax US cobbled together to make a game that was actually pretty decent, in the span of just about a year no less. That's no easy feat. I never knew of the depth of the ineptitude of Climax US management, so that was cool to discover but unfortunate for the devs who had to suffer under those circumstances. Can't be surprised either that the main reason any of that occurred was due to Konami literally being Konami by sucking ass at being responsible for their studios and devs. One thing a lot of people don't understand/know is that Konami's ineptitude stretches all the way back to the 90s, it wasn't just a recent phenomenon. The fact that a lot of good/great games released in the 90s/2000s under their publishing is more telling of the talent of the devs, not the suits.

[@debutchi]

What trouble originated in the 90s? I’m only familiar with the recent drama

[@deadpilled2942]

It's because we as fans care more about the franchise more than anybody that has ever worked for Konami

[@jorgecaimanque6951]

You bring the depth to the controversial surfaces of the franchise. One thing I've noticed in the fandom overall is they tend to focus on the surface product, but have little to no interest to what's unused in the game, the ideas that were scrapped, the process and development of the games we love, the people that made it work... it's just whatever the final game is like, and the "Team Silent" vs "American devs" entities. Ironic, coming from a franchise that's notorious for its depth into darker themes. I continue to enjoy your videos on these matters, and I hope more fans find you and discover these depths too.

[@forgetit9421]

Well, yeah, because You play and you pay for what the product is, not the product it could have been. It is cool to know details about the production and the what happun of a success or the what happun of the failure, but it shouldn't affect your "review" of the game

[@thommybepunkt7111]

well said.

[@TheFedeGamer99]

I love all of them dont care if japan or american

[@tvdvd8661]

Irony is a firetruck on fire. That's not ironic

[@opo3628]

Silent Hill Origins as a whole is a solid *OK* ...but learning the backstory behind the game's development you suddenly realize what a tremendous accomplishment it truly is. Just imagine how amazing the game would've been had Konami given the second team the time and the resources to fully achieve their own vision for it.

[@rayegincho]

It gets some hate just for being western made. But out of all of those, it feels the most like Silent hill to me. It does have it's problems of course, but I'm pretty happy that I got play something else that's surprisingly close to capturing the feeling the first game had.

[@Jo_youwhatmate]

Alot of the problems with series really did stem from not having enough time in the "oven" so to speak and... Konami being Konami

[@Meitti]

You can't really fail with Silent Hill fans once you just follow one important cardinal rule when developing the game: It has to be scary. The reason why Origins is still considered an okay game despite some game design and story issues is simply because it still captures that cold sweat feeling of dread the original 4 had. Which is also why Homecoming and Downpour are considered to be duds and the simple reason is those games aren't all that scary. The "Scary" is all that matters, everything else comes secondary. Silent Hill is not about Pyramid Heads and bloody iron net hallways, its about psychological horror first and foremost. Shattered Memories was considered to be a good game and that P.T demo was superpopular and people were wishing Konami to give a greenlight to make it into a Silent Hill game, despite the game barely having any franchise hallmarks. Most important thing was simply that its scary and its psychological horror. Focusing on keeping the old visuals while failing to keep the scary atmosphere just leads the franchise to a path of Hellraiser where it becomes a cheap IP for lazy directors to exploit, making their own crappy horror films while having 5 min footage of Pinhead to justify calling it a "Hellraiser movie".

[@hardbody2072]

Really enjoyed this video, I've watched all your SH videos, there's something exceptional about this one, all of them are exceptional but this video was perfectly crafted. Nice job!

[@ancientandbored]

In my humble opinion, after the Japanese developers, Climax (UK, the one responsible for Origins and SM, I mean) was the only one on the right track to bring greatness back to the series. But Konami just preferred to kick the franchise around like an old, smelly pair of shoes 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Visuwyg]

It's remarkable how fast Climax UK turned this game around... was O.R.T. already composed for the LA version, or did that masterpiece come in for the UK version?

[@powerbelly211]

I was just about to go to bed and thegamingmuse new video popped up! Love this stuff

[@yongimodula9845]

With regards to the God of War series coincidence, I think there were God of War games that were developed for the PSP in a Sony studio in Santa Monica. So maybe that could be connected or related to the coincidence.

[@li_B4shar_il]

Origins was the first Silent Hill game I ever played back then when I didn't even know what Silent Hill was Origins made me fall in love with the series and became my overall favorite Silent Hill game, it's also a pretty underrated Silent Hill game in the franchise for being this good of a game (in my opinion) everyone mostly likes silent hill 1, 2 & 3 these days but Origins to me is a gem, thank you for making this video some of the things included in this video were things I didn't know about and I'm glad I do now!

[@slowmercy69]

At least it played like a Silent Hill game But man oh man are you right about SH4: was reluctant to play it, and then to beat it; but when I did, I loved the game 4 is up there

[@Louis-wp3fq]

I prefer 4 to 3, conceptually. Not everything it did worked, but it tried new things whereas 3 went back to the original story, something I hoped would never happen. (The team behind 3 knocked it out of the park, though.) Every game after 4 is TRYING to be a real Silent Hill game instead of doing what the original team would have done: asking themselves, "What COULD a Silent Hill game be?" And that's one of the many reasons the Western games are all underwhelming. (I will give props to Shattered Memories for actual creativity. But it's a shame the game just isn't scary.)

[@slowmercy69]

@@Louis-wp3fq yeah Shattered Memories on the PSP was at least a technological marvel

[@Beeyo176]

Not everyone got to experience Muse playing Origins for the first time, but I did. This video is therapeutic as shit

[@ranzudezuLRTC]

Was it live streamed?

[@Beeyo176]

@@ranzudezuLRTC Yeah, Muse does little gaming streams every now and then. If you hit the bell you'll get notifications when they're playing

[@Ghosthound_X]

Great video just the information that I was looking for thank you. I just started playing it.

[@andrewdowell6474]

They did a commendable job getting this game out and the fact that they went on to do Shattered Memories shows they had some pretty good chops to do the series justice.

[@saloz9483]

wow didn't know about all this. Bravo to the dev team for not taking the easy route and trying their best.

[@johnnytrash2839]

I bought the OG Silent Hill day one and, to this day, Origins has always been my favorite to replay.

[@davetorres3906]

Didn't knew that you where introduced to the series through the film, i knew about the series from the very first game when i was just a kid in the late 90's early 2000's, but didn't give it a shot until a few months ago, big mistake on my part skipping all those years, i'm a new fan too and really enjoy your channel because of it

[@akiradevilmanfudo]

I remember how hyped i was with the first trailer that used the SH3 song and still how time made me forget all about this game. It took them forever but while the game felt quiet simplistic in some areas (like the traveling between dark and foggy Silent Hill) this game wasnt too bad. Actually i think it was the best western SH game and thet one that matched the first games better. I never played the PS2 port toigh but in the PSP it was really impresive and bringed a lot of happynes to finally have a portable SH game.

[@LetsMakeGhosts]

Oh I love these 😀

[@MSonnyday]

Personal Bookmark - 5:19

[@barbarazottis5915]

Great video as always... actually got me wanting to replay the game.

[@LegendOfKitty]

I really don't think Konami ever really cared about Silent Hill. They wanted the money the series generated without putting effort into it. I think you can see that from the very beginning, when Team Silent was made and left to their own devices. Great for the first few games since they didn't seem to have corporate oversight, but a nail in the coffin after the subsequent games performed poorer.

[@deadpilled2942]

I had a hell of a time playing this on console, you're basically forced to turn off every light in your house, or you just walking in the dark while throwing health drinks at people

[@jerrberryd4961]

My cousin Kelly introduced me to silent Hill when he drew amazing artwork of silent Hill, pyramid head, and the nurses so I kind of shrugged it off like he was being a weirdo with his artwork then my brother and him like we’re like playing the game but it was origins and then I started watching my brother play the game. I got myself a taste until I was 20 to the game because I was so scared to play Sterling Hill until I was 20.

[@cleverlydevisedmyth]

I never finished this game, but love the song "O.R.T."!

[@ranzudezuLRTC]

This was my first SH game EVER and it creeped tf out of me on our PSP (along with S.M) and I just love it! Hope it had better controls and a brighter screen though and I wish a remake or a PROPER HD remaster for this game 🤞🙏

[@RiceDaddy07]

I hope you're reading this gamingmuse... ...can you consider making a video as to why the Silent Hill games didn't sell well in Japan?

[@dawnofthewalkers4915]

Yes, on the hole preparation H feels good.

[@masonr1666]

You can tell the team really tried in Origins. I waited for the PS2 release, because I had no interest in the PSP. The mirror hopping was a little hokey, but they made the best of a bad situation. It does have one of my favorite enemies in Silent Hill...The Floating Halo man. You can see the metal halo contraption floating in space, and you can see only the shadow of the man wearing it. I didn't get past the asylum part, but I could tell that there was a level of care put into the game.

[@marcoaureliofernandezreyes1413]

Wow! What a video! I want to play Silent Hill Origins, now. I wonder why Konami just...don't want to create good games...

[@wishingstar8701]

0:24 - It was my introduction to the series, though I'm not one of those fanboys that cant see the continuity errors here, I personally imagine it as an alternate universe canon instead of the official canon, it allows me to enjoy it as its own thing, separate from the real Silent Hill story line, cause even with all its story flaws and stupid quick time event mashups "btw, a modder could outright disable those if they tried", I personally enjoy this game even to this day. :3

[@playcebovision5319]

Ngl, that monster that was a split animal on hooks would of been great to see.

[@manticore6963]

Why am I not surprised that many problems with this game arose from Konami not giving a shit about their IPs, except how much money they can make off it?

[@codygames5415]

This was a marvelous story.

[@LobselErik]

Gonna be haunted by how good the early concept trailer looked now

[@jackmiles612]

lack of oversight for origins to me is one example in a long line of proof that at the corporate level, no one at konami cared about the silent hill IP.

[@albertreign]

I’ll tell you what happened, I bought it and had a blast.

[@Beeyo176]

Haven't watched yet, just feeding the algorithm. I want all Muse, all the time

[@RamonaFlowerz]

You have a soothing voice. 😄

[@Knh55-u5l]

Got sh origins for ps2 i think its a great game to play, i like the story of travis Climax made a great game in the end tbh

[@UTF016]

To me Origins is a fantastic game mostly due to how it emulates the gameplay of the first Silent Hill. It doesn’t really tell anything new, it has rather bland characters and voice acting and it doesn’t expand the Silent Hill lore, at least not significantly. But none of this ruins the overall experience. The core gameplay mechanics and atmosphere of Silent Hill are all here and they work perfectly. I see this game as an extention of Silent Hill 1, but without the plot and characters. It’s a very competent game.

[@ghostofwar5430]

True. For me,origins was not among the best in franchise but it was the scariest one. Something in atmosphere was so damn scary

[@dexterous0016]

I know people are gonna get butthurt when i said this but i wish they would have went third person but still survival horror

[@TheFedeGamer99]

11:10 so this is was the original psp game?!?!

[@M.sami12]

I don't understand the hate origins get. This game don't try to do something crazy or change the formula of previous silent hill games, unlike the original version of it. I think they played it safe and it paid off. Regardless of its shortcomings, It did what it was meant to do very well, scare the shit out of you.

[@pzgeyo1995]

What music is in the background

[@smithsmithson1610]

What happened with Silent Hill: Origins? It shouldn't have

[@dagothur2248]

Be sure to play psp version. It runs a lot better than ps2 version.

[@eg3408]

My first silent hill game was origins on the psp

[@Koniving]

The sad thing is, I liked the early concepts. What they eventually showed, however, also included a hard crunch into what Konami wanted with every game from sh2 getting harder pushes toward action by konami execs. A need to focus heavily on the combat as it was the big demand Konami had. But all that development time and only that to show (as they didnt have the engine until super late) boded pretty poorly. I wonder what a story that happened around the same point in time, but didnt focus on shoehorning ties to the first game and let them happen more naturally...what would it have been? The woman in the mirror; Alessa's personality never really fit in Origins; too much movie Alessa, not enough PS1 Alessa.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

thanks

[@MilanStojakov]

It's really great game. I used to hate it a lot but played it first time last year and liked it a lot. It's really good silent hill game, not the best one but good one indeed.

[@cptsteele91]

Silent Hilll Origins on PSP is absolutely fantastic...on PSP, probably shouldn't have ever been released on a regular console

[@deadpilled2942]

Silent Hill hates sinks

[@Louis-wp3fq]

Origins is decent fanfic. It's nowhere near as good as the first four, but it has good stuff in it. I am shocked it worked at all given how bad things were behind the scenes.

[@willissudweeks1050]

I like homecoming but its no SH4

[@matrix255]

Origins had potential, for a PSP game it looks pretty good and the overall experience is semidecent especially compared to every post team silent games. Main problem is the plot is just god damn awful, it's portrait of SH1 characters is very bad and the B plot about Travis parents/past baggage sounds interesting in paper but is not very well flesh out and it's an obvious (and bad) copy of SH2 story.

[@hicknopunk]

Silent Hill 5 and 7 are really pretty good games, silent hill 6 on the ps3 was a real dog though, not the kind in a control room either.

[@AntiSerpent]

I loved the 👽 🔫

[@Sputnik34]

i think origins gets a bad rep. i think it's the most soild "post tetralogy" game in the series. the only real issues i have with it are the combat, some mild otherworld preferences that i wish were fleshed out a bit more, an annoyance that the butcher was underutilized and the limitless inventory.

[@mjayw2317]

you said Nintendo would not give out Mario or Zelda without strict rules just asking but have you seen the Mario and Zelda CDI games that where made?

[@orlandofurioso7329]

That's another reason why they have strict rules now probably lol

[@carlbrutananadelewski6042]

Silent hill oranges

[@slowmercy69]

Are you an Aris fan

[@minion568]

hears rules of thumb with resident evil and devil may cry. HA! funny.

[@AmberExpert]

Hi 🙂

[@Hugo_Tate]

Can’t tell if the person talking is a guy or girl lol

[@joaquin.a6067]

The worst part of the series in terms of graphics and animation

[@reimaginethesounds6694]

Along with Homecoming, it looks like an expansion of The Sims: SH pack

[@fumomofumosarum5893]

.... but all the games that came after sucked...! i hate western SH.

[@blumiu2426]

Wow, so the story was glued together. That seems about right as things did feel disjointed, especially with how Alessa was used, mimicking the movie version more than the game.