Silent Hill's Most Terrifying Character

[@Kazaonyt]

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[@controllerxb]

Sweet Someone Who Knows About SH And Dead Rising

[@Anonymous99666]

does Eddie remind anyone else of Chris-Chan?

[@moonkey537]

Excellent video

[@incarnateflame3462]

I haven't looked at any silent hill content in many months but this popped up on my recommendations and this was well done so I subbed 🥺👉👈

[@incarnateflame3462]

​@@Anonymous99666lmao it'd be much more comical if he had the voice but yes

[@lBorosDavidl]

James: This town is full of monsters! How can you just sit there and eat pizza? Eddie: Pizza? They look like pizza to you?

[@PauloHernandezXD]

Well, **now** I am hungry :P

[@Weltshmerz]

Damn this would have made that line more of my favorite than it already is with that vincent vibe🤣

[@pyramidhead138]

where do you find edible pizza in a town where time doesnt move?

[@HeavenlyEchoVirus]

This is my favourite KZbin comment ever.

[@jakubwyporek5845]

XD

[@MmeCShadow]

Imagine going in to audition for a psychological horror game, getting the role, and then learning you've been cast as 'guy eating bowling alley pizza'.

[@Kazaonyt]

'Guy who eats pizza and talks funny'

[@stark5679]

Do i look like pizza to you

[@deathandrebirth-y8x]

a paycheck is a paycheck

[@ArmundJay]

"also we'll need an absurd amount of audio that features your character blowing chunks"

[@okiedouk]

Thats when the gravity hits and you truly feel like a man hopelessly casted into purgatory

[@wareforcoin5780]

It just occurred to me Eddie had to have looked in the fridge to find the body. The pizza scene isn't weird, he's been looking for food all along.

[@Kazaonyt]

oh wow I have never thought about this. thats a nice catch

[@thenekozombie4316]

That would explain why he was throwing up. Perhaps in his own delusion, he saw the body as food and…. Well, I think the picture is clear enough

[@Kazaonyt]

@@thenekozombie4316 makes a lot of sense to be honest. It's a really good perspective of the situation. This is why I like making videos, people come up with interesting ideas

[@antondavidovic3996]

​@@thenekozombie4316 Wow, that's what Masahiro Ito meant by replying "Its a secret" when asked why Eddie was throwing up

[@johnlawful2272]

Body in the fridge reminds me of Kyle Rainer girl friend from green lantern

[@Giantkiller130-t]

Walking around Silent Hill with no shoes? I don't know man... that is very scary to me.

[@Kazaonyt]

I didn't think about that, pretty psychotic

[@shakirashipslied9721]

Best immune system in Silent Hill to not get sick from it.

[@Catswithouthats123]

What?

[@CallofFreaky]

Real life “bare-footers” are scarier to me

[@karawithgun8148]

For free? In this economy????

[@AFoxInFlames]

The fact that he found pizza in SH and is just casually eating is the most horrifying thing. Could you imagine? I would be like, yep, hes a psychopath.

[@agylao6894]

Let's hope there was no pineapple on that pizza 💀

[@AFoxInFlames]

@agylao6894 oh God that's even worse! I won't sleep tonight😆

[@PauloHernandezXD]

Idk, based on his cadence he doesn't seem like he was the brightest bulb, lol :P

[@afkclan197]

I would eat the pizza lol

[@Weltshmerz]

There's a theory on yt that says he carried the pizza from the nearby town since the pizza place doesn't exist in silent hill. Which would be fitting him being a psychopath while carring around cold pizza to eat later😂

[@Diwasho]

The line _"Mary, did you really die three years ago?"_ is so brilliant. On surface level James is wondering if his wife is still alive but deep down what he's really asking is was it three years ago that she died or much more recently, and even deeper within him he already knows all the answers.

[@AedanBlackheart]

She comes back to haunt his ass 😂

[@Loreweavver]

Or a long long time ago... If this is a recurring hell he could have been going through this cycle for longer than three years.

[@Kspice9000]

​@Loreweavver but its not a recurring cycle.

[@Loreweavver]

@@Kspice9000 oh really? How many times have you played through the game?

[@Keebrev]

@@Loreweavverat least ten times. Not once has it ever been suggested either by the game itself or by developers.

[@jdng86]

Another thing about Eddie sitting down is that it hides that he's tall and threatening until he shows his true colors.

[@Omnywrench]

Another thing to note about Eddie is his outfit: shorts, striped shirt, sneakers, and a baseball cap. It's an ensemble that wouldn't look out of place on a child from the 80's, although on Eddie it looks a bit too small and sweaty on his large frame, like he hadn't changed his clothes since sixth grade. It adds to his seemingly pathetic and harmless appearance at the beginning, but also highlights how childish and simplistic his worldview is along with his temper. But it also reflects how, deep down, Eddie is a scared little boy who was taught from a young age how cruel and superficial the world could be, making him believe he had to be the same if he wanted to do more than survive.

[@Kazaonyt]

@@Omnywrench a crucial aspect that I completely forgot to highlight. Thanks for this 🙌

[@leticiallime]

in fashion school we learn that stripes are used to indicate that someone is different or deviant, maybe the devs wanted us to think that Eddie was different from james and angela somehow

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

I love how the game portrays the way each character experiences Silent Hill. For James, everything is waterlogged like the buildings in the town have been flooded and drowned. It’s so grim and dreary and fits his guilt and self-loathing perfectly. For Angela, it’s constantly burning, representing both what she did and the agony of the abuse she faced. For Eddie, it’s full of cold, howling winds. It’s like a physical manifestation of his chaotic mind state and how he’s snapped into a homicidal rage. The wind chimes in the music from the cutscene before the fight build up the wind motif like they’re building up an intense storm coming through.

[@olegd3860]

Eddie: “You see Pizza too? For me, it’s always like this.”

[@raccoonchild]

I'm losing my fkn mind 😭

[@eragone1999]

tooo funny

[@b0xman935]

I'm starting to love the silent hill community 😂

[@Colcyon]

18:09 The best thing about this scene where James confronts Eddie for killing someone is the way James glances down at Eddie's gun and then quickly back at Eddie's eyes. It has got to be the best eye animation for portraying fear I've seen at that time, or in all of video game cutscenes. His petrified face has this look like, "I need to tread very carefully with this person, because I have *_no_* idea what's going to set him off." It's subtle animation done absolutely flawlessly that you don't normally see, if at all, in any of today's gaming landscape.

[@Kazaonyt]

Attention to detail is what silent hill does best

[@Grasses0n]

Holy crap I never noticed that! James looks terrified! I think he was more scared of Eddie than Pyramid Head.

[@MrJackHagan]

​@Grasses0n Red Pyramid is terrifying, but he's an eldritch horror. He can't be real. Even if we're terrified, there's still part of us as humans that will inherently disbelieve something like that. A deranged man-child with obviously slipping sanity and a big-ass revolver is normal. It's real. It's a threat that we can't disbelieve, and I think the same is true for James in both cases.

[@cleverlydevisedmyth]

I'd really recommend an old series on youtube called "Noisy Hill". It overdubs all the Silent Hill cutscenes with nonsense and puns. In it Eddie says " a corpse can't laugh" and James answers "yeah, Mary never had a sense of humor..." lol Also Eddie says "This town called you, James!" And James says "No, my parents called me James...."

[@Minchken]

Nostalgia...

[@AedanBlackheart]

Lmfao 😂

[@Zagadka06]

Yes and yes. Fond memories there...

[@kiriki4558]

Sound lame

[@kaptindeadpool4972]

Yeah, done by "Waxing Owls" or something like that. It's hilarious.

[@killerqueenbitthedust]

Theory: the pizza was so mid eddie starter tweaking

[@Kazaonyt]

Oh my god you've cracked it

[@killerqueenbitthedust]

@@Kazaonyt the munchies were real💀

[@chedsalvia6270]

so... Eddie went crazy due to Food Poisoning

[@Kazaonyt]

@@chedsalvia6270 the only plausible explanation. the spiritual power bs is all a cover up

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

He must’ve been eating Domino’s

[@sistergrimace1567]

The final fight with Eddie is deliberately absurd because he’s trying to taunt James into killing him. Even if he’s out of bullets, why doesn’t he pistol whip him or throw a punch. He just walks around shoving him. That’s one of the reasons I didn’t get this game at first. The designers always favor thematics over traditional video game procedurals. They make the boss fights absurd so that you’ll wonder why.

[@Kazaonyt]

Well that shove does a lot of damage to James lol. I just think the animations are what makes it look absurd. He looks like he's lightly tapping James but he's actually punching you, which does just as much damage as his gun (logic) on the hardest difficulties, it's actually one of the most challenging bosses in the game. But again, I only found it absurd because of how goofy the whole thing looked

[@AedanBlackheart]

​@Kazaonyt that's cause it's on hard designed to be... hard

[@ShyGuyInKilt]

This logic mean you found that fight the hardest on normal...

[@Kazaonyt]

@@ShyGuyInKilt huh?

[@alysondavy2485]

​@@ShyGuyInKiltWhat's up with this comment section and people not making sense. Is Silent Hill the true brainrot after all?

[@G0thCrayon]

With Vincent, I believe the possibility exists that the monsters DO resemble what he considers "people," but remembers that their appearances aren't persistent and catches himself at the last second.

[@antondavidovic3996]

I believe that he's purposefully trying to guilt trip Heather, just look at his face as he says that. I don't believe the monsters are people, though it is interesting that you get a bad ending for killing too many monsters

[@kaox44]

@@antondavidovic3996…the Monsters are just regular people who worshiped the cult. Heather sees them as “monsters” because she’s the angel of death reborn…which distorts her vision when the angel feeds. Just like a lion, it would only see a zebra as meat and not a striped donkey.

[@antondavidovic3996]

@@kaox44 I don't know, why does Vincent refer to them like they're harmless little pygmies instead of people. The missionary was a person, but I'm not so sure about the other monsters, even though your theory is cool

[@kaox44]

@@antondavidovic3996 if you have ever seen the movie “Spirited Away”, it goes into my theory a little bit more and as to why Vincent would say such a thing. In Asian culture, we view the spirit world very differently and cannot be cross with the world of the living. Silent Hill is exactly that…

[@antondavidovic3996]

@@kaox44 That's one of my favorite movies :D I did notice the heavy inspiration of Shinto in SH2 from the Book of Lost Memories which explains the spiritual power of the town. Your theory of SH3 is very interesting, I'll consider it, especially since tje Missionary boss is truly a member of the Cult

[@Cain135]

The problem here is that James was in no position to judge Eddie since he was also a murderer at that point.

[@Kazaonyt]

bro forgor

[@Weltshmerz]

You're also in no position to judge someone who is struggling with traumatic amnesia🤔

[@БогданКрименюк]

Who's to say that you aren't? 🤨🤨🤨

[@DontPretendtoCare]

Who cares? Life has no value. It's like you didn't even play the game.

[@FEStivalofME]

​@user-ek2xg3ps5s well good point haha 😂

[@DarkuuArmati]

I get James feels guilt but like c'mon James, Eddie came at you with a gun.

[@highbrow2373]

He can still regret circumstance.

[@lorenzoantoniodominguezflo9116]

@@highbrow2373the only thing I find a little strange is James asking Eddy after he shoot him with a fricking double barrel if he’s ok. I’m not saying it’s not fitting: James acted in self defense and has probably never shot a human being before so it’s understandable once Ed boy wasn’t a threat anymore maybe James thought he could save him or at least let him live.

[@highbrow2373]

@@lorenzoantoniodominguezflo9116 Or, story board did not account for game play, and the scripted cutscenes do not account for how the player plays. Also, this may not even occur in the japanese dialogue.

[@KempuraChicken]

​@@highbrow2373Silent Hill 2, or any of them really, only have English dialog. It has japanese subtitles instead.

[@mc_zittrer8793]

I've gone 39 years in this world without killing anyone, even on days where rage completely overtook me. James could 100% get cleared on a self-defense plea, but even with his moral compass being compromised by the skeletons in his closet, it's not like he'd turn blasé about killing Eddie. Yes, he was a creep, yes he was going full postal and likely would have massacred a lot of confused and terrified bystanders, and yes it was an honest case of self defense. He'll still totally feel like a monster for it though, and that maybe he could have deescalated it another way if he'd just been smarter about it. That's baggage he's stuck carrying the rest of his life.

[@Nah-T-EBei]

To be honest, I always saw as a long-time victim of bullying who would've turned to food for comfort and likely developed a severe binge eating disorder/food addiction, and the best way to perceive them in my opinion, are on the same way as drug addicts/alcoholics. So the bowling alley scene could have been him resorting to things such as him picking through the trash in order to "get his fix," of his "drug." So to me, I feel the scenes with him eating moreso just show how far gone he is into his disordered eating habits. Because of the excessive eating, he obviously would have gained a lot of weight, which would have made him a victim of bullying from his peers. The thing that makes him so twisted, is trying to better himself, he instead chooses to harm others, which you explain very well.

[@Kspice9000]

That's the the thing with Eddie. The foods less his drug of choice and more so his coping mechanism. However thanks to his father, even that is tainted. So he gets made to feel like shit, then eats making feel like more shit, making feel more vulnerable leading to others being able to make him feel even more shitty, and since he feels like such a shit he doesnt stand for himself, which makes him feel more like shit and which makes him eat, creating more shit.

[@Shionoid]

​​@@Kspice9000shit, man

[@terezipepsi]

@@Kspice9000 wow what a "shitty" situation amirte 🤣

[@terezipepsi]

sorry that wasn't funny

[@Shionoid]

@@terezipepsi it was a shitty joke /j

[@helfire14]

People tend to look to Mary's monologue as a example of the voice acting being deliberately stilted for effect, but honestly, they sleep on Eddie. The first thing you hear of him is him puking and to this day it is the most authentic, empathy inducing puking performance I've ever heard in a video game. Even most horror games that have characters throw up do not go as all in as Eddie's VA did. It induces dissonance almost immediately the instant you hear him talk and try to compare it to the off delivery of his lines. Meanwhile, James is just standing over him, flinging questions his way when he is in barely any shape to answer them. It's honestly one of the most anxiety inducing scenes in the entire game.

[@Omnywrench]

Oh yeah, they really hit it out of the park with the puking noises. It's honestly hard for me to listen to it because it makes me feel a little nauseous after a while.

[@spikespiegel4928]

So glad I didn't know anything about this game before watching the story unfold for myself!

[@Kazaonyt]

Play it... honestly one of the greatest games ever made

[@spikespiegel4928]

@@Kazaonyt mhmm that's what I meant :V nice video tho bro I like your off Hunt videos you're a good narrator. The twist blew me away tbh

[@Kazaonyt]

@@spikespiegel4928 This video doesn't even do the twist justice. This is mainly an analysis of Eddie's character, there are many video essays on this game that really dives into the lore and symbolism of the game. I highly recommend checking one out

[@Cricket0021]

eddies eyes at 17:06 just screams "I FUCKING LOST IT"

[@Kazaonyt]

Just amazing attention to detail

[@lopirobinson1991]

Silent Hill scores are among the best horror, if not the best horror scores I've ever heard. Dreamlike, hellish, a soft torture while others are blunt stabs to the bones. The music hits a nerve in me.

[@creatureslim]

I'd like to point out that James's dad kept Walter's umbilical cord.

[@Kazaonyt]

what a weirdo am i right

[@omega3fatass61]

sus household

[@SneedFeedAndSeed]

Free stem cells 😋

[@PomegranatePomPom]

I mean... If James's not very mentally stable in the first place (I think he already had ton of issues before Mary was sick, just hid it better). There's perhaps a reason in his upbringing... But we don't have infos on this. But the fact that his father kept such a thing... Huhhhhh yeah....

[@daltonbecker4494]

Apparently, that isn't that weird in Japan.

[@oceanmanly]

Eddie and James fight is turn-based jrpg.

[@anarche4900]

The Silent Hill 2 is the means by which is all is revealed

[@astro33tv]

Just want to say man, that you're really good at making these kind of videos. the Signalis one, F.E.A.R. and now this one have all been top quality. you have the voice for it to!

[@Kazaonyt]

Really means a lot. this is the type of content I love making and im glad people enjoy it

[@mrmusickhimself]

I just realized: what if Eddie had encountered Laura instead of James in that meat locker? If Eddie was so quick to turn on James, imagine what he'd do when Laura calls him a "fatso" again.

[@Kazaonyt]

Damn that's a pretty scary thought. Luckily he had a pizza to tame his anger temporarily lol

[@demonkingt]

Isnt Laura just inner dialogue of people manifested? I havent looked into it just felt that way from my playthrough/how people interact with her

[@KempuraChicken]

​@demonkingt She's another person that was called to the town to find Mary. Due to being child, she had nothing for the town to use on her so she just sees it as a big empty playground. She doesn't see any monsters, which is why she didn't let James out of the hospital room when he got attacked.

[@demonkingt]

@@KempuraChicken ohh where is that explained? I must've missed it or wasnt paying enough attention

[@KempuraChicken]

@demonkingt It's not directly explained, though we know Laura is real because she and Mary had the same nurse at the hospital. Plus Laura has her own letter from Mary wishing her a happy 8th birthday, which she reveals was the week before the game takes place. It's how we learn Mary didn't die three years ago as well.

[@ccaa7674]

12:41 the town isn't actually abandoned. For it's residents, it's a normal town. For the people it draws in, it's whatever the town wants them to see. Kind of like some alternate reality or something, in the same way the town turns into its rusty bloody dimension. We are playing the game as James, we don't know what Eddie is seeing, he could be seeing the town's real residents. The whole abandoned mining town thing is from the movie, its not canon in the games

[@Kazaonyt]

I said the bowling alley is abandoned lol. I know the town isn't. The town is basically a ghost town because the majority of the population left due to its shitty economic situation and lack of jobs. I don't know where you got the impression that I think this town is completely abandoned lol. I know the lore very well and obviously the movies aren't cannon

[@antondavidovic3996]

Personally I believe that the town became completely abandoned during/after the events of SH1. I believe that during SH1, Alessa accidentally projected the nightmare she was in while in a coma onto the town using her powers, which would explain why everyone there collectively experiences her nightmare instead of their own. I believe that the spiritual power (mentioned in a book you can find when replaying SH2) of the town somehow got corrupted after this and only then began calling to deranged people with similar trauma to Alessa's. This would also mean that James and Mary first visited the town before SH1. Just look at how care-free Laura wonders the town. No one in a populated town would let a litte girl just wonder into an insane asylum and let her play around in there where there should be deranged patients.

[@johnlawful2272]

​@@antondavidovic3996wait a minute what town does the player stay in sh4

[@empty2892]

@@johnlawful2272 Ashfield

[@raccoonchild]

I love that there are essentially three different dimensions coexisting in the town after all the witchery that took place there. The regular SH, the foggy one with no locals, and then the Otherworld (fully personalized SH experience). Not to mention that even if the monsters manifest in response to what's in the visitors' minds, they are still very much real.

[@sgdolt]

Maybe Eddie had enough and snapped, killed people, and suffered the grief of killing. Perhaps, the reason he killed is because he appeared weak by simply existing and enjoying things; all the body language I see in the pizza scene indicates that Eddie wouldn’t have began any conversation. James just appeared to find Eddie and then questioned the appropriateness of pizza during their journey through Silent Hill. Maybe, it isn’t feeling like it’s about pizza, to Eddie, but maybe he feels like people have criticized him simply for being. So that boils into rage and then shame, and leads him to this unhinged episode he has in Silent Hill.

[@nickelakon5369]

In my opinion, Eddie doesn't feel bad about things. He fakes it, cause he knows most people would condemn him. When he first meets James he doesn't have a good read on him, so he freaks out and grovels, pleads innocence. Over time Eddie starts to get a better read of James and figures out he's just as bad as him, so he stops and shows his true colors, his misdeeds are in fact justified, he was the one who was wronged. Of course he let the little girl wander off in a dangerous town full of monsters, she was mean to him. Of course he killed those people, they laughed at him and mocked him. He was the one who was wronged all along, he had to stand up for himself and stop them. There are a lot of people exactly like Eddie. They do terrible things but it's never their fault. There was always a reason and it's always cause of someone else. And if you can't understand that you're just as bad as the people who wronged them. Notice that Eddie doesn't really even have a pyramid head equivalent. There's no representation of Eddie's guilt or trauma like there is for the other characters because Eddie doesn't truly have any. He just has justifications to do what he wants, which is to hurt people.

[@sgdolt]

@@nickelakon5369 thank you for your opinion, it asserts a lot of pretty solid points that need to be minded.

[@ericm215]

Yes he has a persecution complex perhaps!!

[@cyberrain3261]

I played this game as a teen and knew how unhinged Eddie was but seeing it again, especially with how Eddie looked away, swearing that he didn't kill anyone, claiming innocence yet at the same time seeing him breakdown psychotically in the 3rd and 4th time the player meets him is very disturbing. The swing of emotions going from being suspenious of him to seeing him eat pizza and going from zero to 100 on the unhinged scale is just bone-chilling. Yet Eddie is another character that can be seen as a sad since he was bullied by that Football player over and over or seen as useless by those in his neighborhood which made him get pissed enough to the point where he felt the need to "get revenge" by shooting the Football player while killing the dog. When Eddie said "Just like the dog, he had it coming too" , it sent out a major red flag since killers often start killing others by harming innocent creatures before moving on to bigger targets and Eddie did just that. Good video and you got a sub

[@Black_Phillip_215]

This just popped up in my recommendations and I couldn’t be happier for it. This video is amazing. I love how you get right into it from the very beginning. Love how you use clips from the game so perfectly with your narrative. How you don’t talk over the game every second and “let it breathe” and do its own thing. It’s well articulated, well thought out, well presented and makes me want to play this classic again for what would be the 1000th time. I look forward to watching more of your videos.

[@Kazaonyt]

Really glad you enjoyed it!

[@Forget1987]

When I avoid eye contact I just don't want to be looked at wish I wasn't here

[@cookicrumbl]

you good ?

[@MasterofPillowFights]

@@cookicrumbl I'm assuming they mean they wish they weren't in a situation like James where they have to confront Eddie, since the lack of eye contact might set off Eddie. Hopefully this is what they meant, otherwise, damn, I feel for them.

[@James_Bee]

Many people avoid eye contact. Especially introverted people, socially awkward, autistic folks. It's not unusual and even then when people DO make "eye contact" they have a tendency to focus on a part of someone's face so they aren't making direct eye contact. It is something we should try to get past as individuals, or try to. Being able to do so exudes confidence to others. You also will see just how often others break eye contact with you when you don't ;)

[@Forget1987]

@James_Bee lol I find it to be a bot sociopathic when people try to beam me down while talking to me I find it creepy but yeah definitely an introvert socially just don't want to acknowledge anyone trying to talk to me

[@kenzieuchiha1191]

I feel this, introverted by nature and I stare generally anywhere but people's eyes. Sometimes people think I'm staring at them but I'm actually looking through them.

[@williansnobre]

It is possible that Laura got Eddie the pizza since Laura is probably not 100% in the foggy Silent Hill. Maybe he asked her if she knew where to find any food, for her the bowling place is probably normal so he could have given her money and she bought the pizza at the same place but on the normal Silent Hill.

[@Kazaonyt]

Possibly, there's honestly no real explanation lol

[@leddarklight7566]

That would mean that Laura does know that for Eddie,James and Angela,the town is empty sans for monsters. As she who had ask why Eddie doesn't go himself to buy the Pizza.

[@williansnobre]

​@@leddarklight7566 She was trying to negotiate with him, maybe buying the pizza in exchange for Eddie to answer her questions.

[@jackmeyers7805]

For all we know, he ate that whole pizza without a drink of anything. That by itself is a red flag.

[@João-u8b]

I avoid Eye Contact, and it's because i'm shy and feel inferior and judged by people when i look into their eyes. Might be the same case with Eddie.

[@Kazaonyt]

Sorry to hear that, maybe there is a connection there though. But I personally think he's tried to hide the truth by avoiding contact

[@mc_zittrer8793]

I can certainly see Eddie averting eye contact due to social awkwardness. However, with the language of the narrative, the fact that he's socially awkward isn't as important as immediately signaling that Eddie is duplicitous and dishonest. We don't get a lot of interactions with Eddie in the game, but him being socially awkward doesn't really count as one of the skeletons in his closet, or why his limited interactions are all unsettling in their own ways.

[@jamesmcgilcrest4948]

your pathetic and weak then

[@Celatra]

@@Kazaonyt im autistic and can't make eye contact, even tho i also very rarely ever lie.

[@TheMalloney]

Isn't it interesting how in the fight with Eddie, the meat that is hanging in the freezer has shorts stiched to the bottom of them? Like, the meat is supposed to look like Eddie?

[@Kazaonyt]

Yes that's what his subconscious is projecting because it's one of things that was used to make fun of him

[@elenadirectorofmiiss7942]

Considering the nature of Silent Hill... Eddie might not have been eating pizza. The town does like to individualize it's tortures. It might have looked like pizza, even to other people, but considering the lack of food...

[@Kazaonyt]

It was pineapple "pizza" 100%. thats true horror

[@Goober543]

ywnbaw

[@Omnywrench]

Oh god... he was actually eating burritos! Those hills won't be so silent once Eddie starts fartin' up a shitstorm

[@clowno4206]

@@Omnywrench lmao

[@mr.outlaw231]

18:10 "Just like that stupid dog..." He made me look bad. OOGA BOOGA BOOGA!

[@Arthuro-v1h]

I wonder if there’s a connection to the dog ending or is it a random statement?

[@weirdguy9659]

​@@Arthuro-v1h nah, it's just a Courage the Cowardly Dog reference lol great show tho

[@agylao6894]

What I really like that you do in this video is sticking true to the fact that there's subtly here and a lot of things are intentional. Especially the fact that SH lures these special people in and they each have their own "unique' version of SH, like their personal purgatory. Silent Hill is fucked up.

[@jumpda5]

I was always so interested in this idea that each character who gets into silent hill sees their own subjective version of reality based on their personality. I just imagined a game about eddie and how the city would look from his point of view. What the monsters would look like, riddles and music. And those scenes in the game when you meet people like you but who see everything differently, it's so intriguing. Moments like when james asks eddie if you know that guy with the pyramid on his head and he doesn't understand what you're talking about. At the same time, he says that he saw some monsters

[@halcyonramirez6469]

Eddie probably saw a potato head or something 😂

[@minlow7831]

I always assumed that the “people” Eddie killed in silent hill were just his monsters

[@Kazaonyt]

They pretty much are. Someone raised a very good point the other day that the people could be his delusions because they're in areas that don't make sense. If this was the case, they are pretty much are his monsters

[@RedsaidDead]

Good video man I like the random videos you post along side your hunt content, it keeps things fresh !

[@MechanicalDragonfly]

The first time I played SH2 I saw the body that had been fridged, found Eddie upchucking, and immediately assumed he was a cannibal 😂

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

Ngl I thought he just found the body and tried to chow down unsuccessfully too.

[@AnthonyYang002]

*Shoots him with a shotgun* "Ayo, Eddie? You good? Homie???"

[@Krzemieniewski1]

23 years have passed since the premiere of SH2 and analyzes and materials about the game's symbolism and message are still being created. This speaks very highly of the creators of this electronic representation of psychological hell. By the way, great material, I subbed and I'm going to watch the rest of the videos on the channel.

[@Kazaonyt]

@@Krzemieniewski1 thx and I hope you enjoy 🫡

[@masonr1666]

I think the actions you take as James, influences the reason why James did what he did. That is why there are multiple endings. To quote "The Matrix Reloaded:" "you already made the choice; you are here to understand why." All of the people in Silent Hill, who have a grave in the prison have links to death and murder. Angela killed her father, Eddie killed a dog and at least injured a man. James kills his wife, but through the actions of the player, we find out why he did it. As you fulfill the requirements for each ending, James shows specific personality traits, that is what triggers the different endings. The game also shows three ways of dealing with trauma: Eddie's lashing outward, Anglia's self destruction, and Laura's survival.

[@masonr1666]

I assume Laura had a terminal illness, which is why she was in the hospital with Mary.

[@Kazaonyt]

I responded to someone with this similar comment before. all the endings possibly answer every reason as to why he did what he did. Was he selfish, out of mercy, rage etc. it all depends on the player, just like you said

[@schoolfreak32]

Just like the endings in "The Suffering". Torque is in prison for the murder of his wife and children, and how you choose to play the game determines what kind of person he was towards them. In all of the endings, Torque was responsible for their deaths; how you make him behave throughout the game lets you know HOW he was responsible for them.

[@ltsLex]

The most common misconception about Eddie is that he killed a lot of people, where in reality, his only kill is a dog, he shot at a human once before coming to silent hill, but just injured the guy in the knee, after he comes to silent hill, he starts seeing these monsters as people, therefore all his kills are actually monsters, where James sees himself because he feels he deserves to die for what he did, we couldn't fully tap into what he was seeing as with Angela because of how James feels towards Eddie near the end of the game

[@dylives7667]

"They look like monsters to you?" What would probably be the last good SH game from the series Origin, Zero in Japan, touches this with the bad ending. Where the monsters Travis took down turned out to be people, thus materializing his mother's visions of him turning evil. That being the reason why she attempted to end him when he was a child. You get a hint of this when you reach the motel.

[@Kazaonyt]

I personally think they should have left that plot point alone. Just a personal opinion of mine. But that one line from Vincent was so profound that it caused a debate on whether or not it was a joke or not. That's what makes Silent Hill work so well, create a mystery that will never get fully answered but leave breadcrumbs to give us a taste and leave us pondering over it. That's what makes Silent Hill special. If they go ahead and answer the question for us and be like "YES THE MONSTERS ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE" that in my opinion would ruin the magic. If you know what I mean

[@blacksesamecandies]

@@Kazaonyt Themematically this fits very well in SH3 for Heather because as a reincarnation or Alessa she probably knows deep down that people ARE monsters.. or at least have the capacity to be. In a way it fits with SH2, because sure - there are monsterous creature we fight, but you also fight with humans which usually are just as evil if not more so. The majority of the real humans in SH2 have done awful things, everyone barring Laura a child in SH2 is a murderer. Mary/Maria is more of an aberration, like a ghost - so I don't count her.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

​@@KazaonytAgreed.

[@sevenproxies4255]

I don't think the pizza scene is ridiculous at all. It's a breadcrumb to suggest to the player that the way James see Silent Hill isn't necessarily the same as other characters see it. Another such clue is when you've just completed the hospital section and James spots Laura casually strolling outside the hospital, even though it's pitch black outside (from James perspective).

[@axelwust9376]

Funny thing is, according to the developers, if I remember correctly, Eddie only ever killed the dog. Thats it. He never lied about hurting any other person in Silent Hill. He just...gave in.

[@Kazaonyt]

@@axelwust9376 also shot someone in the knee. He had murderous intentions before he arrived in silent hill. His subconscious projected people laughing and staring at him, so he killed them. However, these may have only been delusions and may have never actually killed anyone. Either way, the town made him give into his blood lust

[@axelwust9376]

@Kazaonyt I also remember hearing that he got bullied so bad he had to beg for his life once (that was probably from a novel though.) In many ways, you are right, the town just gave him and outlet, and he gave in. And why not? He gets to pretend to be tough shit, finally be the one in control of his life. Just like how James decided to finally take control of his.

[@clockworkNate]

Correction* Angela's father is Silent Hill 2s most terrifying character... after that would be her mother if we saw her. Saying it was all Angela's fault. 😬

[@Kazaonyt]

Correction Rejected

[@falconeshield]

​@@KazaonytHarsh

[@leticiallime]

I think too and I was scared to shit and he didn’t even showed up for real

[@FeverDreamVoid]

The way Eddies eyes go milky white and twitch back to normal is very neat to me. Reminds me when monsters twitch. Perhaps he was transforming or just a quick nod to him being overcome by Silent Hill's influence for lack of better term? My SH lore knowledge isn't very good but got me thinking and I like it. Little details. 24:24

[@lenacarey2333]

Finally, a good Silent Hill 2 video essay that actually brings something new to the table instead of rehashing the story for an hour! This was fantastic, I loved your analysis. I’ve never really cared all that much for Eddie. I didn’t understand his role in 2, even after all of the time and thought I’ve put into this game. But this video made me understand what his purpose actually is in SH2, and I really appreciate it. Def gonna recommend this to the other Silent Hill fans I know!

[@Kazaonyt]

That was one of my main goals with this video. No regurgitation and show people why Eddie is underappreciated 🙏

[@lenacarey2333]

@@Kazaonyt I completely agree. It’s crazy how long this game has been out, and how much we can still glean from it. I didn’t know it was possible to have even more of an appreciation for it, but here we are haha

[@archivalhorror]

Thanks. Watching with pizza. LOL I always loved the petty tyranny of Eddie's past actions. Thankful for the Enhanced Edition 'cause no way was I seeing those posters and stickers on the PS2. 😂 Ordinary Vanity is also my favourite piece in the whole soundtrack.

[@Kazaonyt]

its a great track. Like I said, its not just music... its a message

[@lucasrv2630]

this video is absolutely genius my friend. I felt so talked to. I spent the entire video saying "YES, EXACTLY". I've always had a deeper view of eddie and how he forces james's sins into the spotlight and most of my friends never saw it. Your video is perfectly in depth and details everything in his nuance as a character. Thank you for the awesome work!

[@Kazaonyt]

@@lucasrv2630 my pleasure 🫡

[@Akina023]

I always really empathized with Eddie along with Angela. I cried when I had to kill him😭

[@Kazaonyt]

He's completely unhinged but yeah it is sad, the town turned him into a monster.

[@falconeshield]

Na he kills the dog. Eff him.

[@daysand123]

Cant wait to see the remake absolutely make this fight even more horrendous in all the wrong ways. Like theyre gonna make Eddy run at you with a chainsaw at mach five like the fat guy nerd psycho in Dead Rising 2

[@Kazaonyt]

Real.

[@jacksonmiller5090]

*hyperventilating* LeTs PaRtY

[@greatestnitemare6626]

It’ll be terrible. These remakes are just trash and cash grabs

[@daysand123]

@greatestnitemare6626 well yeah, it says a lot that Konami is letting blueber do the SH2 remake while MGS3 Delta actually looks like whoever is behind it was given free reign to reuse audio and try to make it perfect as if it were a dev studio full of people that love the game.

[@alanmonteros6432]

They already butchered Maria can't wait to see how they butcher Eddie too

[@snzr]

Next video - What was on the pizza 🤔

[@TylerHellums]

Pineapple, because he's savage

[@agylao6894]

​@@TylerHellums The true monster of SH.

[@BuckBlaziken]

Iirc Eddy’s design is supposed to invoke a sense of a young man who hasn’t been worn by age yet, however he also supposed to look like he’s wearing something that doesn’t fit him to make it off putting.

[@fumomofumosarum5893]

interesting observation, the thing with the " this is why he sees 2 pyramid heads " : ) neat

[@Kazaonyt]

I wasn't my observation, it's pretty well known in the Silent hill community. So I won't take credit

[@SuPeRNinJaRed]

4:46 the noise coming from the BARFroom indeed!

[@andypmz07]

The irony is, Eddie didnt kill anyone, only the dog. The bodies in sh were projections, James did infact kill a semi innocent man albeit in self defense. Granted if Eddie had left sh, he would of killed someone, but only because sh made him comfortable with death by constantly showing it to him. The fridge body is the only one james sees, before Eddie loses it, however, Eddie likely saw a lot more. By the time hes in the bowling ally hes comfortable around death, to the point hes eating pizza, and talking about his past like it wasnt a big deal. Later, death to Eddie is nothing anymore, hes comfortable enough with it that he kills, what he believes are people, who just look at him weird. Sh turned him into a monster by torturing him with his own fears.

[@HeavyMetalHindu]

To me the most damning piece of foreshadowing that Eddie was lying about his guilt wasn't his body language or the circumstances you find him in, but the strong implication that the monsters look like cops to him.

[@Cyclon32289]

The boss fight with Eddie looked so goofy that I used to think that they were actually faking shooting guns in their deranged minds instead of real ammo. Haha.

[@Kazaonyt]

They're actually just playing and no one died. The good ending

[@njmfff]

@@Kazaonyt Well I didn't know UFO endings existed in SH1, so first time playing SH2 back in the day, I get UFO ending right away and I was legit confused at what the hell was going on. Think I also got UFO ending for Homecoming as well, but by that time I already knew it was kinda running gag of series so it didn't have the same impact.

[@odontoxins3223]

I think Eddie was throwing up because he killed someone for real or at least a “manifestation”

[@Kazaonyt]

Yeah I agree, Team Silent definitely did a great job though making you second guess it. it's never clear to you what kind of person Eddie is before it's too late. Eddie is literally a ticking time bomb

[@CodeCube-rv1rm]

@@Kazaonyt Masahiro Ito stated on Twitter that Eddie never actually killed anybody (other than the dog), so the bodies may be his delusions, and we have precedence for one character being able to see another’s delusions with James fighting the Abstract Daddy

[@Kazaonyt]

@@CodeCube-rv1rm okay 1. Eddie's victims being delusions and not actual people makes a lot of sense. Why the hell would there be strangers down in the prison section of the game? 2. Silent hill isn't a ghost town but it might as well be since majority of the population left due to it's poor economic situation and lack of jobs. 3. it was confirmed that the power of the town can make people vanish from the victims reality. Heather in silent hill 3 for example, everyone disappeared in the mall when Claudia showed up. Its obvious the town doesn't punish the innocent, since Laura is pure. she can't see the horrors.... BUT she can interact with Eddie...

[@CodeCube-rv1rm]

@@Kazaonyt 1. The prison itself cannot exist in reality, it's in a geometrically impossible location with topsy-turvy rooms, so it makes no sense to assume there are real people there other than the sinners drawn to the town. It's conceivable that there could be others but there are only three open graves in the Labyrinth 2. Yeah, it's a bit unclear. Silent Hill may be mostly abandoned with mainly a few cult members left behind, because of the effects on the town Alessa's powers had, or perhaps when our main characters enter Silent Hill, they enter an unreality separate from the real world with people and hence it looks abandoned to them. I'm not sure we'll ever really know. 3. I think it's made somewhat clear that Silent Hill is sensitive to those with darkness in their 'heart' (the Japanese materials refer to it as 'kokoro', so not just heart in a literal sense but contextually meaning your inner being where your true feelings are). This is also supposedly related to James jumping down the holes. It's not just a fall into madness, but a descent into the truth of his inner self and the darkness that lurks there. As for Heather, I think she's probably the one being plucked out of reality in the mall. There's an intentional transition between early stages of the game which show an otherworld centered around Claudia and later in the game where Alessa's lingering power is the dominant force, hence the wheelchairs, fairy tale & toy themes, and the showdown with the Memory of Alessa (or, 'Alessa's Obsession' in JP works).

[@Kazaonyt]

@@CodeCube-rv1rm ah a fellow silent hill scholar. Respect, you know your stuff. Silent hill lore always fascinated me. I really hope the remake retains the same form of story telling and atmosphere. 🤞

[@Barakon]

0:01 First the cake, now the pie, oh tell me! What else is all a lie!?

[@Kazaonyt]

Oxygen

[@johnnyferalcat896]

Pie? What video game is that?

[@Barakon]

@@johnnyferalcat896 this 1…pizza is a pie.

[@grilledleeks6514]

​@@johnnyferalcat896pizza pie!

[@falconeshield]

​@@grilledleeks6514Amore!

[@Gabbycatty]

Oh wow, I never noticed James look down at Eddie's gun, or even how scared he looked.

[@RaspberryPastry]

The worst thing about Eddie is his mindset is always so defeatist and easily insulted he simultaneously accepts all abuse and resents it without realizing he could grow some self respect if he took things less seriously and didn't stew in humiliation. Like at any point he could have talked himself out of beefing with a dog like "Am I stupid, it's just a dog" but still insisted on perceiving the world as mocking him to justify violence and cower away from responsibility I've met people in highschool who sunk into similar depths running away from growth or self reflection because they'd have to give up a pathetic side of themselves they've let take control, dangerously soft men causing dangerously bad times... Honestly he's an excellent metaphorical extreme for the selfish and pathetic nature in James he's so desperate to pretend isn't there

[@Kazaonyt]

Great point of view on Eddie. I really like this 👍

[@FelisImpurrator]

Ah, classic victim blaming with a side of vaguely fashy "weak men create hard times". My favorite.

[@Jinnyfir]

​@@FelisImpurrator found the irl eddie

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@Jinnyfir Oh, did you look in a mirror on the way?

[@Jinnyfir]

@@FelisImpurrator thank you for confirming ❤️

[@CowCannons]

I'm convinced out of the three, Eddie deserved to be in SH the most. I've also played the remake recently and it seems to push that narrative.

[@GothBunny6669]

I honestly don’t understand the hate about the pizza scene. It all sounds good to me. It always makes me sad that Guy Cihi is a conspiracy brained weirdo. I like his voice.

[@Kazaonyt]

I've read about that, he genuinely believe 5G caused covid and he said they were spreading it with cruise ships or some shit. I don't think people hate the pizza scene, they just find it funny and out of place. But I personally believe thats the whole point

[@watchmehope6560]

​@@Kazaonytso you see it too... *Looks at the cruise ships* it's always like that for me.

[@falconeshield]

​​@@KazaonytMaybe he shouldn't have had that pizza slice 😂

[@CristianePereira-r4x]

​@@Kazaonyt Silent Hill affected his brain

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

He was 100% right about the Vax, though. Just gotta separate the art from the artist. No replies will be seen

[@daltonbecker4494]

One thing to note is Eddies choice of gun, a Colt Single Action Army. However, in the boss fight his shots are shockingly weak for a .45 caliber pistol, why? Well, there are several clones of the Colt SAA; Including several chambered in .22LR. (A *much* smaller caliber) One of those guns fits Eddie to a T, wannabe tough guy waiving around a big gun, thats used primarily on paper targets.

[@njmfff]

God bless our cowboy American brothers, because otherwise we would never get random info like this in a video game that's not even remotely about guns.

[@mistahanansi2264]

Honestly, I always thought the reason the bloody corpse was in the fridge was because Eddie had hallucinated that it was food. I assumed he was merely "trying to put the food back in the fridge" like normal, but because it was actually a dead body, it couldn't fit, which is why it was hanging halfway out in a pool of blood (biting into freshly killed meat is messy business). Because of that, I assumed the reason he was vomiting into the toilet so hard was because he'd become violently ill from eating a corpse (thinking it was pizza or some other food) without actually realizing it.

[@ininja32]

"This town called you too," is the most intelligent statement Eddie said.

[@Kazaonyt]

Exactly, he knew why he's there. And as for James, he has a reason to be there too. Eddie understood this, but James didn't. It's quite chilling

[@TheTj334]

It’s crazy how after 2 decades, people are still doing analysis videos on this game but to be fair, a remake is releasing soon.

[@Kazaonyt]

To be honest, the game is over analysed. But I didn't see anyone make a video quite like this. It's just my opinion on Eddies character and his importance to the story. This video obviously resonated with quite a few people lol

[@nicoarmin8997]

It's been all this time, then your video finally tells me why there are 2 PHs at the end of the game. Brilliant... and I'm baffled that I never realized it.

[@Kazaonyt]

I'm surprised you didn't know, there are many videos that cover it. But I'm glad you learned something new!

[@nicoarmin8997]

@Kazaonyt Me too since I am a fan of two decades and have watched videos and modded a fan page for a decade.

[@LetusGamer]

Was the point of the pizza scene that Eddie is only really happy now while he's stuffing his face? I took it like the town is taunting him but Eddie is so lost that he would never understand. It's funny to think if the town hadn't fed him pizza at the bowling alley, then James would've found Laura with her head ripped off after she hurled her first insult at the fattie.

[@Comkill117]

To steal a joke I read once: “Now I’ll show you why they call me ‘Revolver’.” -Eddie Dombroski

[@falconeshield]

...Revolver.....

[@professorplum3858]

It's been so long since I played the original that I forgot about the message to James on the map. In the SH2 remake, right after you meet Maria, if you stop at the damaged road next to Jack's Inn and look down she will make the comment "Are you waiting for it to stare back?"

[@jonbourgoin182]

It's good to know that sometimes the KZbin algorithm does its job well, because it recommended this video to me and it appears you have a wealth of other content that I will also enjoy. This was an easy sub! Great job, friend.

[@Kazaonyt]

Means a lot. Honestly!

[@Trid3nt861]

The music in the background that plays when you meet Eddie in the mess hall has Cellos/Base slowly eminating a ominous tone.

[@angelluna9599]

This town is full of pizza! How can you sit there and eat monsters?!

[@meimei8718]

Great video. You were able to put in to words the uneasy and suspicious feelings Eddy’s character instilled in the player. Thank you.

[@Kazaonyt]

Glad to hear that you enjoyed it! I always though the unease that Eddie evoked was underappreciated

[@Gabrilos505]

I'm honestly interested in seeing what the Remake will bring. Extra info? More lore? More scenes? I want to know.

[@Kazaonyt]

Me too. I think it would be really interesting if they expanded the lore for Eddie and Angela. Obviously whilst staying faithful to the source material

[@yphoenix5957]

The more I times I watch the 1st cutscene with Eddie the more I'm convinced James is aware and also hears the metallic banging in the music, he's already got an in-game radio that tells him danger is nearby, its my lil' headcannon that the radio James finds is actually playing Akira Yamaoka's monster music whenever a dangerous entity is nearby. So it would make sense and isn't completely far-fetched James would ask Eddie if he knows the Pyramid thing when the banging happens when Eddie becomes aware of James's presence. Eddie is a threat to Jame's safety. Its something that really differentiates Silent hill 2's Silent Hills ( ;( ) from other SH games is that you're experiencing two other people's versions of SIlent Hill, or droppin' on in temporarily. I think that actually makes the boathouse basement make sense somewhat because the exit from the Prison and meat packaging plant is as if James went though a backdoor onto the pier. I like to think the "good" ending was the canon ending, cause' in both instances where James kills another person they were both accidents or not really his intent to. The beauty of Silent Hill 2's endings is it leaves it open to interpretation, so you could say James might've been poisoning Mary, I'd like to think James felt responsible for Mary's slow death by not being by her side, and he undoubtedly felt responsible for Eddie's untimely demise, and exactly right after that James runs into a second Pyramid Head. He felt guilt for euthanizing Mary by her wish, and convinced himself in his depression that he did it out of spite, thus being wisped away to Silent Hill, brought by his late wife's letter to a lakeside town hexxed by witchcraft, magic not created by benevolence, but malicious intent.

[@grilledleeks6514]

What caliber cannon is on your head?

[@yphoenix5957]

@grilledleeks6514 .44 brother!

[@babysinclairfan]

Remember that guy who went on a rant about how Walter Sulkivan was motivated by circumcision?

[@Kazaonyt]

@@babysinclairfan We don’t talk about that

[@falconeshield]

​@@KazaonytBruno is that you?

[@thuklusvonrotz3454]

I see a different explanation in the camera angle and the fact that James is in a higher position than Eddy. James is Judging him, perhaps even projecting thing on him.

[@curseu]

At 10:25 I got literal chills. The banging happening when meeting Eddie is such a subtle but terrifying detail.

[@SADPEOPLEEE]

So the part where he doesnt explain to laura that mary is dead, as a parent dealing with other children that arnt my own. Or even my own. Sometimes theyll insist something theyve made up happened even if it quite literally didnt. My take is he thought that there was no point in explaining or arguing his point simce he realized shes just a kid.

[@jcmottern]

I remember playing silent Hill 2 nearly 20 years ago. The game just sticks with you, it's hard to explain. Can't wait to give it another shot

[@igodreamer7096]

The most pathetic, over the top and dangerous character in the whole Silent Hill 2 debacle. Eddie really is amazing character wise and I fear how he probably will be mishandled in the remake. ⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@falconeshield]

He'll probably be an incel now

[@Barakon]

9:20 the soundtrack is an informative spirit that provides glimpses into people’s minds & situation.

[@Kazaonyt]

Precisely, it's a beautifully crafted soundtrack

[@Nosferwaifu]

I think from the (I guess good?) ending of Silent Hill 2 (the dialogue between him and Mary, the letter, etc) he didnt kill her for himself, or for mercy; it was a mixture of both. Silent Hill did a great job of confronting the reality of how someone you love can be a burden completely by no choice of their own. When someone is sick, and dying, the reality is they can become a burden. But that doesnt mean you dont love them. Its that mixture of resentment and sympathy and love and burden and guilt and abandonment. He wanted to put an end to both of their suffering. She hated dying slowly, because she was burdening him and his life. He hated her being a burden to him, because he hated watching her slowly die and not being able to do anything about it, not being able to move on. Silent Hill is one of the few games that tackled such a concept and did it so well.

[@Kazaonyt]

Exactly. Someone understands it lol. He was able to "leave" silent hill because he fully admitted to what he had done and acknowledged it. All his repressed guilt and memories were released. He faced what he had done. Leave ending "That's why I did it honey, I just couldn't watch you suffer. No! That's not true... You also said you didn't want to die. The truth is I hated you. I wanted you out of the way. I wanted my life back" It wasn't a mercy killing. He used that as an excuse to justify what he did. It was murder. It wasn't a mixture of them both. But I understand what you are saying. Caring for a dying loved one must be incredibly painful, you are completely out of control of their fate and you just have to wait it out. But James was selfish and couldn't wait any longer, he wanted to move on but Mary was burdening him. It's really depressing. In the "in water" ending. He doesn't fully admit to it. "No that's not the whole truth. You also said you didn't want to die. The truth is, part of my hated you. For taking away my life" James was still incredibly guilt ridden and still repressed his reasoning for killing her. But he still believes he needs to be punished. But in the Leave ending. He gets a second chance for accepting what he did. It was the only way for him to move on. Team Silent beautifully tackled it. It's incredibly depressing, but the story was beautifully told. Even though the game is a horror. There's still beauty in it.

[@Nosferwaifu]

@@Kazaonyt I think you cant quote that beautifully scripted conversation without quoting the whole thing: "Mary: James...
 James: Forgive me...
 Mary: I told you that I wanted to die, James. I wanted the pain to end.
 James: That’s why I did it, honey. I just couldn’t watch you suffer. No! That’s not true... You also said that you didn’t want to die. The truth is I hated you. I wanted you out of the way. I wanted my life back....
 Mary: James... if that were true, then why do you look so sad?
 James: Mary...
 Mary: James... Please... please do something for me. Mary: Go on with your life." Mary knew his heart better than he knew it himself, and I think its clear that James' guilt and conscious was pushing aside the reality that it wasn't just for him, he didn't want her to suffer, because why would you want the person you love to suffer. And she knew that. I also think the hallway conversation helped contribute to that: "James: Mary. Mary: What do you want, James? James: I, uh I brought you some flowers... Mary: Flowers? I don’t want any damn flowers. Just go home already. James: Mary, what are you saying? Mary: Look! I’m disgusting! I don’t deserve flowers. Between the disease and the drugs, I look like a monster. Well what are you looking at? Get the hell out of here. Leave me alone already! I’m no use to anyone. I’ll be dead soon anyway. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow.... It’s be easier if they’d just kill me. But I guess the hospital is making a nice profit off me, they want to keep me alive.... Are you still here? I told you to go! Are you deaf?! Don’t come back! Mary: James.... Wait.... Please don’t go.... Stay with me. Don’t leave me alone. I didn’t mean what I said. Please James.... Tell me I’ll be okay. Tell me I’m not going to die. Help me..." The reason I believe both is true is the same reason I believe both Mary's pleas were true; because love and death is incredibly nuanced and hard. She did want to die, but she didnt want to leave him so at the same time she didnt; she resented death partially because she'd be leaving James without her. She did want him to leave, but at the same time she did want him by her side and to not die slowly alone. And he did feel burdened by her and wanted her gone, but also wanted her suffering to stop and for her not to die as a shell of herself. She felt guilt for her life, he felt guilt for her death. I think the sickroom conversation is genuinely Mary trying to get through to James that just because he did it for a selfish reason, doesnt make it the only reason. If James just wanted her out of the way, just wanted her dead and gone, he wouldn't have felt this guilt, wouldnt have suffered after her death, and wouldnt have wound up in Silent Hill. That's why I think its both. But I think Silent Hill does a great job of giving just enough story for you to grab the concept, but also leave a bit up for interpretation so you can come to your own conclusion. I really hope the new Silent Hill 2 does the original justice and can capture the feeling you get playing and learning the story.

[@Kazaonyt]

@@Nosferwaifu thanks for this comment. This is what I love about the game, and having other people's input really helps open my eyes to the bigger picture. What you are saying is right. I just didn't see that, I've beaten the game countless times and there are things i still couldn't connect. In my opinion it wasn't a mercy killing, that's just my perspective. Since he did say he hated her. Which is a strong word to use for a dying loved one. However, your comment does make me think about it more deeply. Respect 👍 This is how people have healthy conversations about a beautiful game. Agree to disagree. Non of that toxic stuff I've been getting from people who obviously don't understand the game lol

[@Nosferwaifu]

@@Kazaonyt Agree 100%, I love this community because that dialogue is always there and ready to be had respectfully! I look forward to more potential videos on the Silent Hill games from you, this video was a great one and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a video talking about Eddie and his role in Silent Hill 2. Great job 🤍

[@Kazaonyt]

@@Nosferwaifu I've teased my next video on my community page 👀

[@gossamer999]

"Avoiding eye contact is a sign of guilt, or hiding something." Me, who obsessively avoids eye contact in public, even when talking to someone: *nervous sweating

[@TomboyCinder]

After watching the remake, I felt no deeper connection or reason for the character interactions in it. My husband recommended I watch the original and I finished and is like a night and day difference in quality! Which is weird considering the remake has "better graphics". Not saying the remake is horrible but I'm wondering if it's being held back by a ratings issue. Or if the developers didn't fully understand how to convey some things in dialogue/cut scenes.

[@Kazaonyt]

I'm right there with ya. I loved the remake, but it really fell short with how they presented the story. The tension Eddie creates is completely absent and all the mystery behind him was gone. I'm making a new video going over this. Despite this though, I still enjoyed the remake. Angela in my opinion was the best character and they did her story justice. That new scene with her at the park was really emotional as her trauma was triggered by something James says to her. I found this detail incredible as it's a real thing people suffer with in the real world. Eddie was super underwhelming and some of the cutscenes didn't have that emotional weight they had from the original. But to be honest, I doubt Bloober would have been able to improve perfection

[@jumpda5]

By the way, when depicting Eddie, perhaps the developers wanted to give him the features of a mental disorder that seems to be called "delusions of reference" when a person feels that everyone around him hates him or laughs at him. That is, perhaps Eddie was really laughed at and mocked, but for him it turned into some kind of mental disorder

[@josean6287]

I don't think the town corrupts him... I think it reflects his mind and it's up to him what to do with it... it didn't "corrupt" Laura and even Cybil didn't see much of the things until the end.

[@Kazaonyt]

@@josean6287 it didn’t corrupt Laura because she’s an innocent child. Eddie had murderous intent and the town pushed him over edge. Which caused him to shoot people who looked at him funny. It used his subconscious against him so he would give in to his blood lust. This caused him to have a psychotic breakdown which is what we see at the end. In the beginning, he was completely different to what he was at the end. To me, the town corrupted him, it used his insecurities and trauma against him so that he would react with violence. Cybil was seeing Alessa’s nightmares, not her own. The town was projecting from Alessa, no one but her had their subconscious projected. I’d say the town definitely corrupted Eddie because by then end of the game. He thought it was ok to kill “people”. Before, he was denying the fact that he was killing. However, the people he was killing may have not been real at all. Just his delusions. This doesn’t change the fact that eventually caved in to his bloodlust and thought killing people “wasn’t a big deal” That’s pretty corrupt if you ask me.

[@josean6287]

@@Kazaonyt The fact that characters like Laura, who is innocent, don't see horrors as others supports the idea that the town doesn't inherently corrupt people it merely brings out their inner struggles.

[@Kazaonyt]

@@josean6287 why would Laura see the same horrors as others? That’s literally not how it works. Eddie had murderous intent. But never truly acted upon it besides killing a dog and shooting someone in the knee. He wanted to kill but missed his chance. He arrives in silent hill and then is tormented by the powers of the town. The town wanted him to kill, why? Because it’s what Eddie desires. They don’t only see trauma, fears and nightmares. They also see desires. Just like how the town manifested Maria for James. I also wouldn’t say having a desire to kill someone is an inner struggle. That’s someone who’s just messed up in the head. The town feeds off someone with a disturbed subconscious. They may arrive in Silent Hill as an ordinary person. Just like how James’s arrives ordinary, but the deeper he goes into the town. The more twisted it becomes. There’s literally an ending where James tries to leave with Maria. Even though she’s literally not real. But James refuses to accept that. His mind has been corrupted. Eddie, who we meet pretty early in the game seems to be somewhat normal and then we see him at the bowling alley causally eating pizza. He’s “normal”. But then we see him in the prison section later and he’s completely twisted. That is someone who was corrupted by the town. Do you understand what I’m saying? It changes some people. Laura has a clear subconscious, the town has nothing to project. That’s how the powers work.

[@leddarklight7566]

Laura is a child and thus innocent. In Silent Hill 1 Alessa has so much pain,hate and sorrow apart from the God inside her uterus that overwrites anything Harry,Cybil,Kaufmann and Dahlia could imagine,at best Cybil only sees the Otherworld far later into the game because she lacks any relationship with Alessa. Kaufmann and Dahlia were the ones who cause her all the pain while Harry has take care of her other half for 7 years,Cybil was just a random policewoman who got absorbed into the Town's Fog World by accident because Cheryl was closed to the town too. Hell,the Creeper enemy appears in SH2 as a remanant of Alessa's suffering.

[@RainaD-oq2wr]

Listening to this and hearing about Laura meeting Mary last year…it makes me wonder if James views Mary’s death the day she was diagnosed with her disease? And she was still in the hospital up until last year. So for the last several he already saw her as dead. Already a loss to mourn with no hope of recovery the worse she became.

[@leddarklight7566]

Yes. For James,Mary died the moment she started to cough.

[@craigvillanueva1876]

and a corpse can't laugh best line ever

[@nocturne000]

Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but I just noticed how the scene with him leaning over a toilet, and the other with him leaning over a round pizza mirror each other. His back is to James, similar camara angles are used like you pointed out, and the shape of the objects are similar. In one food's going out, the other it's going in. I don't know if that was intentional but I just never thought of it until watching your video. Great breakdown all around. Another thing I thought was interesting was when James is upset about killing a "human being", you can't see Eddie's face. He's on his back, dead, face obscured like Mary, and James is leaning over him. Maybe it's also implying that Eddie isn't the subject of James' thoughts? I don't know. Good video.

[@WHiTExNOiR]

Play the remake

[@nocturne000]

@@WHiTExNOiR I really want to. I plan to get it soon. It looks good.

[@nocturne000]

@@WHiTExNOiR I got it! It’s great so far! Thanks for the recommendation.

[@judsongaiden9878]

The character design on James is just perfect. He looks like Kevin Bacon cosplaying as Travis Bickle. This is set in the early '90s when Kevin Bacon was one of the actors who defined the concept of "cool." Like what Michael Bean was in the '80s. Come to think of it, both of them set the coolness standard in both the '80s and the '90s. 10:28 Why's there a comma between "red" and "pyramid?" That hurts muh brain! 11:10 At least he has good taste in pizza. Looks like a supreme. You'd think a pizza in Silent Hill would be a killer psycho pizza with a demented singing face just like in House IV (which was portrayed by Kane Hodder, no less). Note: I mean, if I could get an eldritch town of demented do0m to conjure a pizza for me, and I had to pick from conventional styles (no fancy gourmet stuff with feta cheese and gyro-style toppings or whatnot), supreme would be my first choice. Then it would be an eldritch town of delicious do0m! 15:54 ...revenge. 20:59 Now if he was just a gun enthusiast who also happened to be a foodie, and if he had a less childlike sense of style, and if he had more self-confidence and wasn't insane, then maybe he'd be more fun to hang out with. I could coach him, in fact! Just gotta turn his hat forward, replace that polo shirt with a Hawaiian shirt (could even keep the same basic color scheme), and maybe swap that single-action revolver for a double-action. I maintain that his taste in pizza is fine as is. 23:01 They almost got that revolver model correct except that the ejector rod should be offset to the right. The frame should also have a loading gate offset to the right. Some single-action enthusiasts consider this a configuration that favors a "westpaw" shootist. 24:29 How did he miss at that distance?! 🤣 Well, he's not exactly Mordecai from Borderlands. Notice how he doesn't cock the revolver per shot even though it looks like a single-action. Maybe it's supposed to be a double-action built on a single-action frame, but not specifically a Ruger Security Six. 24:57 That one doesn't have the ultra-rad harness boots that James wears. 25:35 To be fair, he could take some initiative to modify his appearance and attitude at least a little bit. All that stuff I recommended. That and a more easy-going attitude. Everyone loves a fat guy in a Hawaiian shirt with an easy-going attitude. 26:50 I'm reminded of the surplus store scene from Falling Down where Nick says something just like that to Bill "D-FENS" Foster. 27:00 / 27:32 That short-barrel entry gun that James has should hold five rounds instead of six. Four in the tube plus one in the chamber. To hold one more round, it would need to be a little bit longer, having a mag tube that fits flush with a 14" barrel ("flush" meaning "same length" or "co-terminus"). As it is, it has a mag tube that fits flush or near-flush with what looks to be a 12.5" or 13" barrel. Looks like a SWAT-issue Remington 870. 28:55 I always thought the asymmetry of James's shirt was weird. Also, it looks like it should have two or three buttons like a typical polo shirt.

[@Kazaonyt]

Cheers for the comment, its a bit overwhelming :D 10:28 theres a comma there because James pauses for a bit between 'red' and 'pyramid' this emphasizes his confusion because he's not sure what to call it. 27:00 / 27:32 my gun knowledge is pretty limited since im British :D but I think team silent just used references of guns from movies and didn't really care all that much about details. as long as it looked like a gun, it was good enough lol

[@judsongaiden9878]

@@Kazaonyt I always nerd out at 100% maximum power! 🤓