Silicon Power 2x32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 overclocked to DDR5-6400 CL30 on MSI X870 Tomahawk

[@themarketgardener]

Thank you for doing 2x32

[@KOT-ANGRY]

What is safe temp for 2x32gb 6000mts cl32? G.skill kit, A die i think (A end of the S/N).

[@sabishiihito]

I think the "A" in the model name is something internal as they have a 2x16GB 7200 CL34 kit that obviously is H16A, but the part is SP032GXLWU720FDK .

[@Xenthorx]

Very interesting, will compare timings, running 2x32GB 6400 CL28 on rog x670e-f / 7950x3D here.

[@LeechyKun]

What brand? I have G.Skill M-die 6000 C30 tuned to 6000 C28 but that's just basic. What settings you using? I too have 7950X3D. I managed to also bump the CPU to 5900 mhz from its 5700-ish mhz max.

[@nicknevets]

Great video!

[@raedrusding8359]

second! Gonna try use these timings as a reference to do 6200 cl30 for my TeamGroup Tcreate Expert Kit

[@dylanmonahan5909]

I've been wondering how these kits OC. It's M die though, isn't it?

[@IIHydraII]

@@dylanmonahan5909 Doesn't matter, M die will do 6200 just fine, with slightly looser tRFC

[@LeechyKun]

@@IIHydraII All right, what settings to change for it then? Any screenshots? M-die 2R.

[@tkgg]

Still find it interesting that MSI bumps VPP to 1.85 instead of 1.8 when you increase frequency and set it to auto.

[@catonturtle3202]

i can confirm that tRP is sensible to temperatures but not voltage on h24m gonna do the testing with h16a tonight but im pretty sure it is the same story

[@DavidAlfredoGuisado]

which VDDGs voltages used for this setup ?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

just auto which is 950mv on this board

[@miguelfernandez2325]

I've built two rigs based on his reviews and they've been spectacular. I'm about to build my third so I need his input to make a good choice. Mobo and gpu are essential to me the rest I can figure out myself.

[@Nunkuruji]

This is the true spirit of overclocking, take the cheapest offering and make it go brrr. The other consideration is it becomes a candidate for heatspreader replacement, even so far as exotic water cooling. Unfortunately Teamgroups Elite bare DDR5 while cheap & directly listed by them as hynix, are micron.

[@luckysuicidal]

you should show the VDDGs for 1:1 setups, not all mobos default the same values and it makes a world of difference for FCLK stability

[@ivanhordiienko4083]

Mb because motherboard is better then u in setting this?

[@luckysuicidal]

@ivanhordiienko4083 has nothing to do with the motherboard. ASRock defaults to 900mv VDDG while MSI does 1.05v by the way, and it's all within the expected safe voltages.

[@Adel-sj4ue]

Have u got better ram oc results on x870 msi or asus till now??? Waiting for the legendry apex❤❤

[@arc00ta]

SP makes a lot of lower cost parts like SSDs, they've been around a long time as a budget brand.

[@Mom19]

Indeed, but they suck insanely hard if you are pushing them just a little bit too much. As for RAM, as long as it's a certain Die (e.g. Hynix A-Die for example) you can't really go wrong with anything, except for some trash heatsinks really. But if you really want to push your memory, heatsinks are kinda trash anyways. Always add a fan. As for their SSDs, once they slow down, they slow to an obnoxious crawl with speeds of about 50 megabytes per second at best. Worse than any hard drive from the last century or so. They are good for very light workloads, cheap storage that doesn't need to do much at all but other than that, they are honestly trash

[@ChrispyNut]

Could be some different, useful content right there. Fitting heatsinks from previous generations to newer sticks, as heat dissipation was more of a thing. Many people have older sticks kicking around, could be a different kind of memory overclocking piece, needs the old content updating for DDR5s extra chip (needing thermal pad ideally I'm guessing).

[@sysxtem]

LUBz

[@Poppaai]

If set TWRWRscl to 4 System won't boot , if i leave it to auto it will set at 17. Is that a big performance loss? Rest settings works

[@catonturtle3202]

Hynix memory chip?

[@Poppaai]

@catonturtle3202 yes

[@JamesC1981]

Try 5 instead. For me i get no boot with TRDRDSCL of 4. Setting 5 fixes that. So maybe both at 5

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

That's intresting. I've never run into that. What CPU and motherboar?

[@Poppaai]

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 9800x3d and x870-plus tuf

[@silverwerewolf975]

18:10 why your 3 psu voltages are so low? 3.3 and 5v

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

the 24pin might a bit loose since I keep swapping motherboards on the test bench.

[@silverwerewolf975]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking mines drop like that but on load :(

[@DinuDaniel-v1o]

👍👍👍

[@AlexandreHimself]

I have cold boot code 10 with this motherboard, when the pc is cold it does code 10, when it's hot it never do this, any clues to help ?

[@AlexanderBukh]

Oh boy, 2x32, ere we go. 😮

[@cliche_AF]

Where do you think dual rank a die trfc caps out ? 130ns ?

[@kiwibom1]

I got the corsair 2x32gb cl30 kit (CMK64GX5M2B6000Z30), i'm on an intel system and once i enable xmp i struggle to get it stable. I mean its stable for everything i do except windows wake up from sleep. My system tends to lock up either when trying to enter sleep (but this one is rare) or when waking up from sleep. I tried tweaking voltages but nothing worked. It locks up only when xmp is enabled. Also when in the spd section in cpu-z, there is just nothing and in hwinfo64 can't get any monitoring information of off it. I can get it when starting hwinfo64 right after the windows startup but readings go completely wrong after a few minutes like it showed that mem temps were at 3500 °C lol and vddq had like 3.8V. I may also add that in the bios i can get the spd info but don't in windows or on memtest86. It just errors out saying "no spd detected". Something that i saw later is that that kit isn't on the QVL list so that might be the reason. gigabyte Z690 aorus ultra i7 13700kf

[@PrefireCDL]

would anything change by having a 2x16gb version of this memory ?

[@donxzer]

Is AIDA64 stability test unreliable? When overclocking I can pass every test but AIDA fails within 8 hours every single time.

[@Eusebiugh]

tRDRDSCL and tWRWRSCL have to be the same ? My kit can t do lower than 6 rdrscl but wrwscl can do 1.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

No they don't I just set them the same since WRWRSCL doesn't really do anything performance wise.

[@albertoguzmanceballo2234]

Dual Rank has any gains for gaming apart of the ram quantity? Or it's better to go 2x16gb 6400c26?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

it's very slightly faster.

[@albertoguzmanceballo2234]

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Thank you very much. I decided to test this today and what I saw in the 5 games I tested is that fps are a bit better in a single rank kit (a bit faster) than a dual rank. Dual rank also gave me some headaches to tweak but luckily I have your video ;)

[@infinitely_free_to_be_me]

I run Kingston 2x32gb with Nitro disabled entirely on ASRock x870 it's faster than 1-3-1.. did you try that ever? 🤔 Also gear down disabled works fine. I have just under 58ns in Aida64 with no latency killer trash needed.

[@harshhell4185]

Anyone know if he’s done an updated “memory timings for dummies” sort of video? I really can’t be bothered anymore, it’s not worth the hassle for me 😂

[@miguelfernandez2325]

Why are you not doing mobo and gpu breakdowns anymore? Please start doing them again.

[@HSGG_]

mobos just released and gpus are not even released

[@miguelfernandez2325]

@@HSGG_ He hasn't done a breakdown in years.

[@TurboDruck]

Just look

[@miguelfernandez2325]

@TurboDruck I just looked and he hasn't done one in 7 years. Taking a look and breakdowns are two very different things.

[@TurboDruck]

@miguelfernandez2325 There is even a breakdown video from the X870 Tomahawk. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHiQk5uEo7t0rM0si=5IbETiCgCpwlTm0j

[@silverwerewolf975]

My msi x870 tomahawk came scratched from factory 😢 what do i do... And with a heat gun mark on the top right, near the hole of the screw For what people told me on msi forum it could be factory repared?

[@mofous]

At least yours is working. My X870 Tomahawk is flawless, however my brother's was clearly dropped at some point during the packaging process, one of the corners was badly bent and broken, and they boxed it up like nothing had happened to it. Top QA from MSI.

[@silverwerewolf975]

@mofous idk if it works, i couldt try it yet... And the store dont wanna take responsability.... About yours... Wow, this is a disastrr

[@mofous]

@@silverwerewolf975 We both bought our mobos on Amazon, so getting a refund was trivial, but my bro did have to get a Gigabyte X870 board instead, since the Tomahawk was out of stock. Anyway, I hope your story comes to a satisfying conclusion.

[@silverwerewolf975]

@ :O, thanks bro!!

[@charleyweinhardt]

put a game on!

[@petemisc4291]

Along with timings/settings would you consider taking apart the heat sinks on camera so we all could see how good or bad the thermal pads are. Also what is a “good” brand CL30 that you recommend for AMD (these sticks don’t say anything about supporting AMD, just Intel)