Silicon Road: Great Engine Games! Introducing Crazy Leela’s GROB Semi Slav! Part 1

In July 2023, the Leela team introduced a feature called WDL (Win/Draw/Loss) Contempt. Behind this austere technical name, there's something amazingly cool! You tell Leela “Look I’m playing White against an opponent rated 400 ELO lower than me. Can you suggest some ideas in the opening to maximise my winning chances against such an opponent?” During analysis, Leela will look to sharpen the play to a degree appropriate to the ELO difference! AND, EVEN better... well, you'll have to watch the video to learn that secret! ;) Note that the analyses of these games in these videos reflect the thoughts I had during the game! I thought this made sense as we are using Leela to prepare against a human opponent so it seems right to describe how it feels! For the objective truth, take a look at the analysis of my games against Leela by Stockfish and Dragon which is available from the usual place: cloudserver.che...
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[@lepned]

I really like your excitement in this video - you couldn't stop smiling which is fantastic. This is chess from another planet and I can't wait until you release the next video!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah I had a whale of a time! It was quite unexpected - I never thought Leela would play the position from the opening in just the right style! Really impressed!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

In July 2023, the Leela team introduced WDL Contempt. Behind this austere technical name, there's something amazingly cool! You tell Leela “Look I’m playing White against an opponent rated 400 ELO lower than me. Can you suggest some ideas in the opening to maximise my winning chances against such an opponent?” During analysis, Leela will look to sharpen the play to a degree appropriate to the ELO difference! AND, EVEN better... well, you'll have to watch the video to learn that secret! ;)

[@enio17]

The thing about this line is that it's also tough to play as white, even if you're prepared. It's going to take a lot of energy from you to play it. The attack is fantastic though. This line reminds me of the first game Kasparov and Deep Junior played in their match.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

yes it requires a fair amount of energy to play as White it's true! But with 5 Leela games as model games (and the pgn of Dragon / Stockfish analysis) it's definitely easier to do it!

[@blairchess]

Fantastic video with great insights. Appreciate that a player of your stature is willing put yourself up as a sacrificial lamb against such a strong engine to boot.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Well as I always say, the engines never thumb their nose at you when you lose so you don't need to get upset about it! ☺

[@shouldersofgiants4649]

Thanks for taking those losses against Leela for our benefit :) Contempt works great even in engine matches. Funny story, I once pitted leela with almost max contempt and a beefy net vs Rybka 4 in a 100 game 5+3 blitz match with the perfect opening book (for a cheap laugh of course). And leela won all 50 games with white and over 35 games with black losing none. It's ludicrous the difference is playing strength between cutting edge neural net engines vs classic HCE engines which, to their credit, were already miles stronger than humans.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yeah it's true it's really hard to fathom the differences until you see something like that played out! Nice match idea! ☺☺☺

[@NaphthalinDD]

Did you run the same test without contempt as well? Would definitely be interesting to see how much difference it makes to actively avoid main lines and play aggressive stuff instead, much like Carlsen does.

[@shouldersofgiants4649]

@@NaphthalinDD I did and without contempt, NN engines draws a lot with black as the objective is to equalize. You can also try with unbalanced books like Stefan's excellent UHO book (CCC use this) but there will be lot of draws with black.

[@NaphthalinDD]

@@shouldersofgiants4649 Nice! I mean, that's what it is supposed to achieve, but it's still great seeing that it actually works as intended in practice.

[@DrAlexisOlson]

⁠@nRoadChessWould you be willing to risk losing to a one node (no search) Leela? Rumor is that recent BT4 nets are GM level with pure policy, but nobody can convince a GM to test that claim. I'd also love to hear your experience playing the LeelaKnightOdds bot on Lichess!

[@BetterChessFaster]

Another fantastic video! On Lichess in blitz I've faced 12 different moves after 4..e6, but not 5.g4! That may change now of course. It does, however, feature with one lightly annotated game in the Crazy Leela Grob Semi Slav Accepted in Ipatov's Volume 2 Unconventional Approaches to Modern Chess book (p332-334). Accepting is seen as "the principled response, of course" with unfortunately no space found for analysis of ways of declining. It has to be said he's a bit lukewarm on the concept. But watching the two videos it looks practically difficult to play against for a human, even against another human. Most importantly, Ipatov doesn't offer an alternative name for the opening!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Aaaah thanks! I should have remembered that - I liked Ipatov’s books a lot! Yes of course, he had that little section at the end! Thank goodness I can keep my name for it 😂😂 Yeah it’s a pretty cool idea… considering how many pawn sacrifices there are in the Slav/Semi-Slav it doesn’t feel so crazy to do this here!

[@maxmustermann5590]

Great video as always. I do really enjoy seeing your play against leela

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks Max! I had a whale of a time doing it and got a few more videos like this coming up! ☺

[@purpledog101]

The finesse of Be2 in the last game, made me smile. Loved the video and your style, enthusiasm and insights. Subscribed and bought your Silicon Road book, looking forward to reading it. Thanks for such a really interesting watch!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Ah thanks so much! 😊😊Glad you're enjoying the videos and thanks very much for buying the book! I think the videos supplement the books very nicely: the books explain all the themes ina structured way and then you just get loads of new examples in the videos! Hopefully helps keep the material fresh and make it easier to remember!

[@Evan-gl3vp]

I was unaware of the WDL feature before this video. Thank you for the video and the tip.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

No problem! The Leela devs had let me try out a very early version of it, but I never got down to trying out the final version when it was released. So glad I did!

[@АлександрЛитов-у6ы]

Quite an interesting video. Thank you for your work!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Glad you enjoyed it! Next video is even cooler! 😎 😎 😎 😎

[@linusjohansson6156]

Pure gold! Thank you Matthew for this very inspiring and interesting commentary!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Ah thanks! Glad you liked it! ☺☺☺

[@mandarbilpe481]

Ginger gm suggested me your channel.. I'm excited to explore your channel.. You did great job in analysis 🙏💯😊

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Ah great! Yes Simon used one of my videos to good effect against Bodhanna at the British! 😊

[@mandarbilpe481]

@@SiliconRoadChess yes sir that's great work you did against slav, your channel is too underrated.. Just like rare gem..

[@SiliconRoadChess]

@@mandarbilpe481 Ah thanks! 🙂

[@allanbeardsworth2295]

Wonderful. Your enthusiasm when being trounced was wonderful to see. Of course, what we are both doing is watching in awe the poor of this engine. Thank you as always.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks Allan! Was really great fun! And I think the games in the next video coming out on Wednesday are even better!

[@max__]

Great new feature! And what a great game no. 3. It also takes a very strong player like you to force Leela to create magic on the board. And yeah you are right, this is really reminiscent of the Games AlphaZero played against SF8 back in the days, sacrificing pawns and then quietly shuffling around rooks 😀 Thanks for sharing, I am sure looking forward to watching Part 2.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks Max! Yeah if youi thought these games were cool, then you'll be totally blown out of your socks by Part 2! 😎😎😎😎

[@SupaMaggie70]

This is definitely one of my favorite videos in a while!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Ah thanks! Glad you liked it! ☺

[@SupaMaggie70]

@@SiliconRoadChess I was smiling throughout almost the entire video! Please do more stuff like this

[@SiliconRoadChess]

@@SupaMaggie70 😊😊😊 Ah great! 👍 Got a few more of these planned! Kinda inexhaustible supply of super material! 😊

[@Opferschach]

There was an interview with one of the Stockfish developers on the Levitov Chess channel, and he talked the Contempt feature that earlier versions of Stockfish had. As far as I remember, and it was long ago, it was not so much about the openings, mostly it meant to avoid trades. It helped Stockfish to win some games against weaker engines, that otherwise could have been draws. Eventually Stockfish became strong enough to beat weaker engines even without the Contempt feature, so it was discontinued.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yes I seem to remember that too. I get the feeling that this Leela contempt is somewhat more advanced than what Stockfish implemented: it has a profund impact on all aspects of Leela's game.

[@WhiskeySour89]

I've seen you play g4 in a lot of games and was absolutely fascinated by how crushing the attack is every time. Hadn't seen anything like rhat before for d4 openings. Just love it!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Ah thanks! 1.d4 really gives you a lot of scope for this sort of thing and it's so much fun to do! 😊

[@MultiMarcd]

Great play by Leela. Some of these King's Rook moves were just crazy. Game 1 (19.Rg5!!) and in the 3rd game this 17.Rh1!! The only bad thing for me is that my graphic card is not strong enough for Leela, so the next p.c. that i'll buy will need to have a good graphic card. Thanks Matthew for these amazing stuff.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Hey Marc, thanks!! ☺ Yeah an nVidia card is essential to run Leela. Doesn't have to be the strongest - I currently only have a 2080 and 3080 which are somewhat out of date, but works perfectly!

[@alpetification1]

Fantastic! Much appreciated and thank you!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks!! ☺

[@gavinjones8543]

Really fabulous stuff to watch!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Ah thanks Gavin! ☺

[@loosehorsemedia]

Superb stuff. Can’t wait to see what else Crazy Leela has in mind against other main lines …

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yes I'm like a kid in a candy store at the moment! Got one more absolutely amazing video on the Grob Semi-Slav coming out on Wednesday, and then currently doing another very interesting one! I have the feeling I'm going to be being beaten up by Crazy Leela for a couple of months yet! 😂

[@Papageno123]

I loved your excitement, I had the exact same joy! Been using the contempt feature for a more chaotic/playable OTB repertoire which fits my style more. I typically set the contempt elo around 120 - 250, even at a lower contempt (i.e 200's) u get those g4 sacs in a bunch of lines. I find sometimes the super high contempt (>250) sacrifice a little too much eval for my taste. Can't wait to see the new videos which target the human element of these positions. I am curious how well say 200 contempt does in rather drawish openings, haven't looked into it myself. These are usually the settings I use: "WDLCalibrationElo": 2800, "WDLEvalObjectivity": 1, "MovesLeftThreshold": 0.95, "Contempt": "180"

[@SiliconRoadChess]

OK! Ah really interesting! You've obviously done a lot more tweaking than me. I was wondering whether 400 was a bit too much :) and I was going to play around with the settings. The problem is that there are too many things you want to try at the same time 😂A really exciting feature and great to hear you're using it already with pleasure!

[@keyboardify7267]

Great video, thank you GM Sadler! It must take a lot of humility for such a strong player to broadcast their games against an engine, and even more so to play in the same way that you would against a human opponent. Besides leading to very fun games it looks like this kind of engine training could potentially be very useful to improve your play by first playing the variations out yourself and then checking what strong engines would have done instead. Then maybe have another go at the position after stealing some ideas from Stockfish, lol. It could also be fun to try switching sides once the position is losing and see if Leela finds some crazy way to defend it against a human.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks! Yes I think that's one good thing that I have for this sort of practice - I don't worry at all about losing to engines! I still come back every time filled with optimism that this is the game I play out of my skin and beat it ☺☺ Switching sides is a very nice idea! You know that's how one of my very first coaches - a lovely chap by the name of John Smith, rated about 2100 - used to do things. We'd play out a game, and then when he got on top, he switched the board around. Worked really well!

[@CosmicGoat-d3o]

Great Video Matthew. Modern engines are frighteningly good. You are a nice story teller, Woody Allen of the chess world. Cheers.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Glad you enjoyed it Yes modern engines can do anything really - that's why it's so cool to free them to play the craziest stuff like this!

[@jiriblaha873]

Wow!! You got me hooked!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

☺☺☺☺😎😎😎😎

[@STJukes]

This is great. I didn't know about this feature. Will definitely use it! I also love human vs machine long games. They don't really happen anymore so I guess this is close enough.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yes, unfortunately the result is pretty much clear from the start 😉☺ but I think they can still be very instructive!

[@STJukes]

​@@SiliconRoadChess I think I might try some long games against Leela high contempt (once I figure out how to get it to work). Even though it's a guaranteed loss, it is informative.

[@luciangv3252]

I loved it. I think is a good oppening for rapid and blitz at high elo but even in classical in low elo where u need to win

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yeah I think so too! If you play it in the right way, then it's definiotely scary at classical time controls!

[@antmann24]

Incredible!!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

☺☺😎

[@FabriceWantiez]

Great content!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks Fabrice! 😊😊😊

[@Jaylooker]

There’s a similar idea in the e3 line where white delays g4 with the Shabalov attack. Kingscrusher cover a few older Leela games there. Also, Shirov played a nice game against Thorhallsson in 1992 in that line.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yep indeed, but there Black really needs to do some odd stuff to hold on to the pawn. This is really a notch up from that!

[@danger_donkey]

Amazing stuff!! Would be curious to see what it comes up with against the Berlin, Semi-Tarrasch, and other ultra-solid openings at the top level. Perhaps classical chess is about to become a fair bit more exciting...

[@SiliconRoadChess]

They are all on my list! ☺ I basically need to give up my job to do this! 😂😂😂

[@rprose]

great fun

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! ☺

[@SalimDjaffer-l6m]

Leela plays like..Emil Joseph Diemer! Stockfish 3000 recently did the same in the Pic by transposition : 1.d4 d6 2.e4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.h4!? Bg7 5.h5!? 6.Nxh5 Rxh5 Qxh5 Gambits seems the future of Silicon Chess.. Best Regards

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yes it's true - so cool that modern engines are so dynamic nowadays!

[@bluefire6470]

Fun video! Engines with personality are probably more dangerous to humans than without!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yes indeed! I honestly didn't know what to expect in these games! ☺

[@brucelittleboy3594]

Delightful

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks Bruce! ☺

[@runl6117]

I have actually played this idea with Qc2 and e3 first and then d4 in a classical game with success a few years ago.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yes a few different ways of doing it: very awkward for Black in general I think, even if you play a less than sound variant!

[@runl6117]

@@SiliconRoadChess it's the shabalov-shirov gambit. I got the idea from the stockfish alphazero match. Alphazero won with white (in only 45 moves!). I'm sure you've seen that game According to engines, it's actually not unsound. Both stockfish and leela give the position after g4 about an equal evaluation. Leela gives a slight edge to black after declining the gambit with h6 and a slight edge for white if black accepts. Stockfish gives both h6 and Nxg4 0.0

[@NaphthalinDD]

Great to see you excited about the feature, and even better how you share this excitement with us viewers :) Really looking forward to the next video(s)! I have a few clarifying comments on your blog post and wanted to share my perspective on some things you mentioned in the video as the Lc0 dev responsible for the feature, but your website gives me an error when contacting you :(

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Hey, good to hear from you! Gald I didn't make too much of a hash of the explanations! Probably easiest to chat via Discord? I haven't been there in a while but I'll log in again! Best Wishes, Matthew

[@NaphthalinDD]

@@SiliconRoadChess that was quick :) yeah, Discord probably is the easiest, I'll await your message there.

[@smithbob8236]

It suggests some really interesting stuff in a bunch of other openings, too. In the Sveshnikov, for example, it wants Nd5 Nxd5 exd5 Nb8 g4, which is a virtual novelty in a position that has been played thousands of times. Its plan is to play h4 g5, and if f5, to play b3 Bb2 O-O-O, which is quite something.

[@smithbob8236]

Oh man, it plays the king's gambit against e4 e5, and after exf4 Nf3 g5, it likes h3.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Aaaah you're trying it out too! Yeah there are so many super things to investigate! And not enough hours in the day! I have one more 1.d4 openign planned and then I'll move to on to some Sicilians! Yes the King's Gambit is a definite favourite! ☺😎

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yes indeed! 😂

[@b4-b571]

That was fantastic! Thanks a lot. Do you think negative contempt would work? For example when you you are playing against a much stronger opponent and a draw is a good result or in a league game, when you want to be ultra-solid with black?

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yes that should work as well (you can specify contempt as e.g. -100). I will give it a go once I've got through the exciting stuff! ☺☺☺

[@michaelf8221]

"I'm a rook up, but down a king!" Question: what time control do you play when you're playing the engine in these serious training games? Rapid or some sort of 90+30?

[@SiliconRoadChess]

It varies. I have a full-time job so during the day I might play 10-15 moves during my lunch break and then pick up the game in the evening... I probably spend about 30-45 minutes on my moves in total but spread out over a day.

[@krystian19619]

Wow, that's an amazing feature! I experimented a little bit with the settings and Leela went wild, opening against me with 1.g4! Of course, got crushed before I was able to castle😅

[@krystian19619]

I couldn't figure out a way to play against Leela with White. Could you help me? What should I type? Thank you!

[@SiliconRoadChess]

That's awesome! 😂😂

[@SiliconRoadChess]

From Nibbler you just make a move and then hit Play | Play this colour and off you go!

[@krystian19619]

@@SiliconRoadChess oh it was this simple, I thought it's a notepad thing. Thank you very much! 😊

[@SiliconRoadChess]

@@krystian19619 Sometimes life is simple! 😉😊

[@michaelhuttig6596]

Hello Matthew, as always, I enjoyed this video a lot. I was as excited as you about that funny Gambit that I tried it immediately the next day in a rapid game on lichess. It was a full success, since my opponent struggled more than I in solving the rather new situation. I was commenting on this video straight after the game to let you know about my use of that idea, but I naively inserted the link to my lichess game, so my comment obviously was deleted. Today I used the Gambit again and could win this game as well. If you are interested in the annotations of those two attempts of mine please let me know. Both games finished in under 26 moves and I think they were pretty entertaining. But that might be just weak little me not judging the game right. 😂

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Oh I'd love to see the games!

[@michaelhuttig6596]

@@SiliconRoadChess Great, thank you! I hope you have a little fun with my Patzer attempts😁 In the second game I actually fell into the little self set trap, by taking on g7 with the rook and missing the fork by the knight with Nh5 on Rook and Bishop on f4, just as you mentioned in your Video. But the Fish shows that it is not a total desaster at all, but instead "just" loosing the advantage I already had. But my opponent missed the opportunity I gave him and went on downhill. In the end he blunders the queen in a completely lost position and resigns. In the first game I'm a bit over optimistic but also successful. That textbook sacrifice on e6 was very satisfying 😁 The games: Leachimstern (2203) bolor (2201) 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c6 3. d4 d5 4. Nc3 e6 5. g4 Nxg4 6. Rg1 Nf6 7. Qc2 g6 8. h4 Be7 9. Bh6 Nbd7 10. O-O-O b6 11. Bh3 Bb7 12. Kb1 Qc7 13. Ng5 c5 14. Bxe6 fxe6 15. Nxe6 Qd6 16. Nb5 Qh2 17. Nbc7+ Kf7 18. Ng5+ Kg8 19. Nxa8 Bxa8 20. cxd5 Bxd5 21. e4 Bb7 22.Qc4+ Nd5 23. exd5 Bd6 24. Qe2 Qxh4 25. Qe6 1:0 ____________________________ Leachimstern vs alireza909: Semi-Slav Defense Leachimstern (2185) alireza909 (2247) 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 c6 3. d4 e6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. g4 Nxg4 6. Rg1 Nf6 7. Qc2 h6 8. h4 dxc4 9. e4 b5 10. Bf4 Qa5 11. O-O-O Bb4 12. Rxg7 Kf8 13. Rg1 Bxc3 14. bxc3 Qa3+ 15. Kb1 b4 16. Bd6+ Ke8 17. Bxb4 Qa6 18. Ne5 Nbd7 19. Nxc4 Qa4 1:0 Anyway, I think I was able to manage utilizing some of the ideas you showed in your video and the games were quite thematic. It's a pity that I can't put in the links to lichess. But I checked the annotations and they look correct.

[@zchhansen]

Very cool, though maybe not quite as exciting as I initially hoped (looking for wacky novelties like the video). For example, as black in the Taimanov, with contempt around 200-400, it still basically recommends Taimanov mainlines, so I guess that opening is already tactical enough. Against Bf5 in the Slow Slav, nothing too spicy either unfortunately. A direct Nh4 was the most interesting I could get. That being said, it has a ton of interesting ideas in the fianchetto benoni, including the wacky: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 c5 4. d5 exd5 5. g4!?

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Ooooh that's nice! Yes it's quite mixed what Leela comes up with. I'm doing some stuff at the moment where the line it chooses is not so unusual (though not main) but the play after most definitely is... I think you really need to play out the opening in a game to get the full experience! Because it really seems that Leela thinks completely differently about positions in general with this setting!

[@NaphthalinDD]

I think what you're saying about the Sicilian is pretty exactly what is happening. I have tried to find Contempt+Elo settings for the most common gambits, and while it is easy to convince Leela that way to play KGA/KGD, Evans, Grob and even stuff like the Latvian Countergambit and reverse grob, I had no luck whatsoever with the Smith-Morra, as Leela was basically saying "if white is stronger by any amount, playing the Sicilian normally is already so bad for black that white doesn't need questionable moves to complicate it even more".

[@isaaccutler5307]

It isn’t strictly the same, but it very much reminds me of Mamedyarov’s 3.g4 in a would be nimzo Indian.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Indeed! Funnily enough that's exactly the opening that the Leela devs looked at with this feature when they presented it: github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/pull/1791#issuecomment-1486746586

[@PalTed1]

I am about 700-900 points weaker than you. I found helpful the part where you described the mindset necessary to play against an engine. I request a video, which needn’t be streamed live, of yourself playing a game against Leela-Zero set on one node, in which you discuss your thought process move by move. I think a lot of people would enjoy and benefit from that video.

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Yeah I will definitely do that at some stage! For "The Silicon Road to Chess Improvement" I ran a 101-game match vs Leela at 1-node and people have been asking for a live streamed version of that ☺

[@Phurngirathaana]

Will we ever have AI playing like specific players? Or the sample size of say 4-5k games is just too small

[@SiliconRoadChess]

I think that's one of the holy grails for this type of AI: to be able to deduce more from limited sets of data. For the moment though, I don't think it's possible. Would be so cool - could be applied to all sorts of fields actually (though we might like that less) like art or literature!

[@krystian19619]

I noticed that on 2700 Black against 2000 White settings, Leela plays the same opening as Magnus Carlsen in online blitz starting 1...f6, coincidence?

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Don't know! Probably just great (twisted! 😉☺) minds thinking alike! 😂

[@BramCohen]

Covering dubious openings which give good practical chances, it's almost like you're a Chess KZbinr. In all seriousness, if you played against non-contempt Leela at the same strength in a more normal opening, like with you being black, do you get dismantled just as fast or is this showing some real strength of this particular contemptful opening?

[@SiliconRoadChess]

100K nodes is probably around 3200-3300 strength so I will always lose to Leela. But in normal games I just get squeezed by accuracy. This was something else - I truly had no idea where the next hit was coming from ☺ and you'll see that in an even more remarkable way in the next video coming out on Wednesday. This is truly something different and fresh! For me at least, a completely new way of working with engines!

[@sean2552]

>7 minute intro sir

[@SiliconRoadChess]

That's just the way I roll!

[@mandarbilpe481]

Ginger gm suggested me your channel.. I'm excited to explore your channel.. You did great job in analysis 🙏💯😊

[@SiliconRoadChess]

Thanks for coming!