Silly Angled Back Cuts Why They are Dangerous and Ineffective

When cutting down trees many people insist on making angled back cuts. I compare angled back cuts to standard horizontal back cuts. I attempt to explain why this can be a dangerous way to cut down trees. I have never seen professional loggers, timber fallers or arborists use angled back cuts. I mostly see this with non professionals and people poaching firewood.
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[@ryankramer7002]

I am a certified arborist who’s been felling trees for over 20 years and I couldn’t have described this any better myself. Great video.

[@DP-ol1wh]

Have you ever used or heard of more than one notch on a tree at different levels? I'm sure there have been some idiculous practices over the years... Just thinking of random or risky stuff since I've never even seen this back angled cut before...

[@vinfricano3970]

I've been running a chainsaw for 25 years, and far from an expert. That's why I enjoy watching experts like you. I've never used an angle back cut, but you do an excellent job of explaining the intricacies of felling. The dry humor is icing on the cake. Keep up the great work!

[@geraldwilliams497]

If anybody has done anything for a quarter of a century and still isn't an expert. They are in fact a compete and total failure. Even if that which they are doing is only a hobby.. I'm sorry but twenty-five years is far longer than necessary. To gain experience enough to be an expert

[@stevecobb7844]

Gerald Williams "complete and total failure". What a sad note thats the best comment you could come up with. I don't know either of you and you don't know each other. From what I can tell he is ok. My opinion of you (I only know you from your abrasive comment) I will respectfully keep to myself.

[@vinfricano3970]

Geraldwilliams, I got a good laugh out of that comment. You must be a 13 year old typist. Or an expert in many ways. I'm sure that the latter is not true. But keep typing son, sooner or later you'll grow up... someday, maybe.

[@geraldwilliams497]

@@vinfricano3970 so sorry didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Don't take it personally it is just an observation. 10000 hours of doing something qualifies one as expert. That's roughly ten hours a week for twenty-five years. Like I said even a hobby. Twenty-five years of doing that hobby. Should make someone an expert. Five years professionally I've done a few things in my professional life and changed careers a few times. Yea I'm an expert at a few things no point in doing anything. If you're not going to give it your all

[@geraldwilliams497]

@@vinfricano3970 and if you don't give it the necessary attention. Then yes that's a failure. Why waste time doing anything. If you're not striving for perfection at that task.

[@johnfahey7215]

I liked how you stashed the “evidence!”👍😀

[@capogiraffe]

I'm a faller and a climber of over 20 years on the north coast of BC 🇨🇦. I always assumed that the angled back cut was a hold over from a time when people used hand saws to fell small trees specifically. One might use an axe to chop a quick face cut but then switch to a hand saw to complete the back cut and it's easier to use a handsaw in a position closer to vertical as opposed to horizontally. Whereas on a large tree there is more room and such a short stump is not necessary and so it would be more worth it to start that back cut flat for all the recognized reasons. This is just my assumption but I've often pondered the subject.

[@beaugalbraith3891]

Can you imagine trying to explain an angled back cut to the bullbucker on a stump audit? BC fallers know best. Stay safe out there brother

[@danielweston9188]

agree I hinge cut trees for wildlife forage and use a handsaw at an angle.

[@abrogard]

excellent. you'd be right I think. and you wouldn't need such a high angle either.

[@Bushman9]

That was the most informative explanation on the topic of tensile strength (relative to tree felling) I have ever seen. Thank you Mr. Wilson.

[@user-vq3ez2cg5x]

I asked a person using an angled back cut why they were doing that and they said, "it keeps the tree from backing off the stump when it's falling". They had no idea what a hinge was or what it did. I corrected them but I'm not sure it sunk in.

[@DaveODrowsky]

Excellent explanation of why to not make the angled backcut, I have been an instructor of the subject for 29 years and agree wholeheartedly with you. There are 2 more reasons not to and if you finish too low on the backcut it becomes a doorstop and too high can trigger a barber chair. I was interested in seeing you make the flat cut of the conventional notch first, perhaps its a western thing but I've always felt the angle cut first will make lining up and sizing the notch easier, especially when correction is needed.

[@usccnewenglandnetops2866]

Great video. Never heard it put better. And the humor at the end was perfect!

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

I never knew the angle back cut was a thing. Thanks for explaining to us that dont know what is going on inside as it makes sense to me..

[@DeliveryBryan]

When I drop trees to cut for firewood I use the Humboldt cut and normal back cut and then pound wedges and see the tree fall . I hate wasting wood !

[@billietyree2214]

I’m old, retired and probably never going to the woods again except to camp. But I sure do enjoy your videos. Thank you for them.

[@billhackley3540]

have seen that many times over the years, the 'chuckler' for me the last few years is skidder operator wannabe fallers making compound angled humbolt cuts with (firewood) trees going everywhere but where they intended. great video

[@billroberts3864]

Back in the day when I was timber falling here in the Pacific Northwest we always used the Humbolt face to help guide the tree as it fell. We had good control of the fall and it was much safer. Besides it gave a little bit more good wood on the tree butt. Blessings to you.

[@1neAdam12]

Not sure how a Humboldt would be of any service to you guiding its direction of travel once the kerf breaches the holding wood. I always understood that the Humboldt cut was a way to mitigate having the spar go nose first into the ground before fully releasing from the stump. Maybe I got that wrong 🤔

[@Whateva67]

The Humboldt started to be used because you’re not cutting into the log,thus wasting wood. Before chain saws were used in the woods,they used to chop the tree down or use big two man hand saws so doing a conventional cut was easier to do.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

@@Whateva67 The one time I got to cut a tree down, it was using a cross cut saw because we were working on a project inside of a national wilderness where any sort of motorized equipment was banned. And yes, we cut the notch the way that he does in the video and yes, we did a straight cut until the tree fell. It fell exactly where we wanted to because when we cut the notch, we cut it fromt he side facing where we wanted it to fall. I'm not personally sure that the wedges are really needed with a cross cut saw as they cut quickly enough that you wouldn't stop until it starts falling.

[@KevinsDisobedience]

I’ve been wanting to make this video for a while. I call it the farmer’s cut, and I think they believe it’s helping push the tree in that direction. Good points: also, like you said, you just introduce another angle cut to line up.

[@jenniferwhite6089]

taken the words out of my mouth too

[@karlsborgwi.jewell9919]

Hey now ! Us farmers have feelings too 😂

[@karlrovey]

I thought the farmer's cut was an overly open face cut.

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

I just made an angled backcut yesterday, believe it or not. The tree was leaning plenty, so no danger. I kind of *had* to do it though, because I made the notch a little below the "Y" in a double-stemmed tree, and only wanted to cut the one side. Besides my reason, there are two reasons why someone would want to do it, that I can think of. One: it's easier when gravity helps pull the saw through the tree. Two: there is more room for a wedge. A possible third is that you do get a bit more leverage when wedging the tree. But that is dangerous, so not really a valid reason. And, yes, I'm (kind of) a farmer.

[@danielmoulton4117]

As a farmer in my 7th decade I'm a bit insulted. Fortunately, I'm not thin skinned. Don't talk down to farmers with your mouth full.

[@SmooveBee1]

The hinge on the convention method (top) is very strong, if left thick enough, and places a simple 'up' pull on that hinge, strong and tensile. That angled-back-cut places a kick-forward lever out and is a shear-force forward on that hinge. Thank you for this great explanation and great demo.

[@kensearle4892]

Thank you for the explanation! That makes sense. I had to cut a large tree pine that was touching my wood stove pipe and did it the good horizontal way. I did not realize that a strong grapevine was attached to the tree, about 10 feet away from the truck acting like a line in the wrong direction. The tree swayed the correct way, I took my saw out, and then it settled back on itself like you said, so the horizontal cut saved it from going any further back. We already had another line on the correct side and hooked up the tractor to pull it over the right way. Not sure what would have happened if we did the angled cut as our tree was bigger than the one in your demo. If I had to do it again I might consider the plunge/bore cut so I could have time to take my chain saw out and add some wedges before making the final cut. When the tree settled back on itself I could not get any wedges in so was fortunate we had the extra line already hooked up to pull it the way we wanted.

[@maddawgnoll]

The angled back cut comes from all the cartoons we watched as kids haha. Drives me insane seeing angled back cuts. The only time I've seen an angled cut done professionally is when they needed to slip the tree down to the ground on a steel hill.

[@bombocropper5142]

Ove neen a timber faller for over 40 years and it's hreat to finally see a video of an experienced faller who knows exactly what he is talking about, there is a vast storehouse of misinformation regurgitating on the web surrounding this subject and this guy sets it all straight, excellent video beautifully articulated and laced with a bit of great humor!

[@earthlogger1]

I just came across your video and had to reply. Excellent explanation. I do tree work for a living and I have never used an angled back back cut because it never made sence to me for reasons you explained. Also, Someone inexperienced has a higher chance of cutting through the hinge wood and at the same time the tree could potentially slip off the stump and be out os control.

[@nbuha56]

I was taught to cut trees the right way, and never had the notion of doing an angled back cut until I saw someone doing one. I immediately realized how unsafe it was. The way you showed uneasiness on how to start that cut is exactly how I felt watching this other fella. Luckily the fella didn't hurt himself. Great video on this subject, I too would be embarrassed to leave evidence of this.

[@J_Hump]

Im so thankful for people like this. Honestly, ive met so many tree cutters that I've literally gave an idea to an they told me "Wow thats better than what I had in mind." Literally I couldnt count on my hands and toes how many times its occurred. I wouldnt consider myself to be a professional at cutting trees but I've cut/climed better than alot of timbers thanks to professionals giving information like this.

[@BrianDoherty-e8s]

That slanted back cut is called a farmer cut in the timber falling business. If you try to use a wedge the back will split out. With a horizontal back cut wedging forces are only up and down, not splitting anything. By the way, Hoss, I would tighten the bottom straps of your chaps pull the protection around the front of your shins. Below the knees is where a kickback will usually hit. Nice channel and really experienced advice for folks wanting to learn about logging and forest management!

[@wadetaylor1299]

Looking for somone who new took a bit

[@paulclarke3132]

I think you hit on the real reason why an angle cut might be the best when you mentioned how the back part might spilt off. I think this would be more of a problem with a small tree than a larger one. The one advantage to the farmer's cut is that it's easier to hold the chainsaw that way when you're cutting low on the trunk

[@josephscriven5454]

Growing up I had to gather firewood every summer. My dad taught me this wrong way. You're explanation makes perfect sense.

[@allfrogsaregay]

Great video. I especially appreciate that you wear the correct PPE, *INCLUDING* eye protection and hearing protection, which so many otherwise-skilled and otherwise-knowledgeable professionals on KZbin fail to do.

[@Oldswamppuma]

Disclosure....I'm not an expert but have felled many trees using the angle cut due to watching a professional arborist use the cut. After watching your video I certainly understand your logical reasoning behind your method. I will start using you method and try to find my man card. Thanks for the video

[@alaincote6684]

Hello from new-Brunswick, Canada. Thank you for a great lesson. I felled a 40 ft elm yesterday ( Dutch elm disease ) and I make my cuts as you do. That steep angle cut I have never seen before. And I like the undercut mainly for me as to not waste any good lumber from the butt log. The elm I just cut has a sound 12 ft 1st log starting at 16 inches and tapers slowly to 12 ft at 12 inches: great hardwood lumber. I am 64 and I remember slashing for a Timberjack 230 100 ft white pine and at the end of the day my hands would be in so much pain fr those Partner saws and I was in my early 20's. Thanks again.

[@joshhomer4367]

Good explanation. I have told people that as well and they look at me like I’m stupid. Oh well, some people cannot think logically. I liked that you mentioned most people get away with it :) Another consideration I have thought of is treating it like a lazy stepped back cut to help in the event of a barber chair, but it would be minimally effective and I think what you have talked about is probably the majority of people’s reasoning.

[@Shawn-s8o]

You explain things very well with a very clear message that gives a very direct understanding of what two and what not to do

[@fliegeesser4665]

Thank you for a clear understanding of the angled back cut shearing the hinge fibers.

[@BallBusta]

Very good explanation of the physics involved in both types of cut. Had to use this to show some people I know, so they could see why you never don't do an angled cut.

[@anemone104]

All good, as I've come to expect from your content. Well explained. And greetings from the UK. You kindly expressed interest in different terminology used here in a previous comment, so here's some more. If I'm felling a big tree with heavy lean and felling with the lean, my felling cut (back cut) may look a bit like a sloping back cut, 'cos I'm doing a dog tooth. To explain: My gob (conventional 'undercuts' or bird's mouth) is going to be very low on the tree. To stop barber chairing (yes in the UK we call that the same thing) I'll bore cut to the hinge and then come back to a strap which will hold the tree up. I'll stand and release the strap by cutting down at around 45 degrees to meet the felling cut (back cut). This leaves a dog's tooth sticking up. But though it looks a bit like your angled back cut it really isn't 'cos the felling cut (back cut) is still horizontal (like it should be). I may do a couple of ears either side and below the hinge to stop tear-out, especially if I want the stump to stand a chance of coppicing. When I'm doing derelict coppice, I may be in stems that are really adjacent (on the same stool) and there may be several that all need to go different ways to keep from tangling. Not much room and they'll typically be less than twice guide bar width, so not enough room to bore in for the felling cut after the gob has gone in on a stem. Here I might do a sloping felling cut 'cos there is no room to do anything else without cutting into other stems. I'll be felling with lean. No room or need for wedges. Conifers don't coppice. Except yew, sometimes. Yew is weird. The cones look like berries and the timber is hard. Ever heard of cushion cuts also known as Danish pie cuts?

[@seijirou302]

Great video. This should be standard shown in public schools, right along with don't cross your straps to secure a vehicle to a trailer, but do cross your safety chains.

[@WilsonForestLands]

Along with a lot of other things they should teach. 😁

[@andrewlewis9300]

The misguided folks that recommend that angled backcut believe it prevents the tree from kicking back. They are wrong...but I have heard it many times. Great explanation of tensile vs. shear strength, thanks for posting this video.

[@bradkubota6968]

Thanks. I have seen those cuts. Always thought they looked stupid. Now I know why, and I have never done one.

[@glenbobnick4192]

This is an interesting subject, but not for the obvious reasons. Things like how to properly cut down a tree were once upon a time left to faulty intuition and the school of hard knocks, in the absence of a good teacher or a handy book. Now we have constant access to instructions in the palm of our hand while being entertained at the same time. Still need some judgment to discern who knows what they are videoing though. Your reasonable explanations and humor make this channel a joy to watch, and I know it will save someone a hard lesson. Great job!

[@howarddavidiii6171]

Nice explanation of why not to. Never heard of anyone making that goofy mistake, but. People will surprise you.

[@sakesaurus]

no it was left to your upbringing as vital part of your culture

[@osagejon8972]

Very nice! If I may add... An angled back cut has less area and width to support the tree if a set back occurs, it is difficult to match the back cut height with the hinge properly (you hinted at that), and it is near impossible to adjust hinge thickness after the top of the angle is established where as a horizontal cut one can nibble more hinge if needed. Thanks for disposing of the evidence 😂I cringe when I see stumps like that!

[@idroadking]

An excellent video outlining some of the reasons it not wise to make those cringe-worthy angled back cuts. It is refreshing as well to see someone with a proper sized bar (not"blade") on the saw.... tho I must say I prefer the all orange saws myself. 😉

[@mcpiddler1135]

I've never used that angled back cut, and now I know why! Thanks!

[@HardRockVermont]

Great instructional on what NOT to do when falling timber.

[@mikerobbins5049]

A very good explanation. Thank you. I have been guilty of angled back cuts but promise never to do it again....😊

[@gavinmetcalfe140]

Informative. I’ve done it a few times with trees growing in clumps trying to squeeze the saw into one stem at a time without sawing through all the crap and dirt down in the bottom of the wedge or doing plunge cuts. Usually only trees that don’t need wedged.

[@georgebrandt541]

I am humbled . Great video.. I deal with old growth upstream of edmonton. Trying to stay safe txs

[@melissatuason2395]

Bla ha ha that was pretty funny, I personally have never seen that type of cut before but I see your point about the splitting trunk, good assessment. I will be cutting a Maple tree with a 24" diameter main trunk and it Y's about 6'ft of the ground. The Y branch is about 15"in dia. and cutting down vertically on the release cut will technically be an angle cut. I will do the traditional pie cut first then vertical for the release.

[@Tyler-rm6pw]

That’s gotta be the most informative tree vid I’ve watched so far. 👍

[@minerblue9641]

Very good video. Thanks. The explanation was accurate and easy to understand. I'll stop cutting angled cuts.

[@georgemoomaw9437]

I never heard of an angle back cut. If I ever cut down a tree, I will be sure to NOT do that. Since in all my 77 years, I have never cut a tree down, I probably never will. HOWEVER ….. I find your videos informative, entertaining and I love the dry humor.

[@paulmaxwell8851]

This is a great series of videos. I've been using chainsaws for about fifty years and never had an accident, never a near miss. Always safety first. I haven't seen many people do an angled cut like this but it's stupid for all the reasons to list. These, days, with KZbin, anyone can learn how to use a chainsaw properly.

[@wooddogg8]

Great video, I found your channel at the beginning of the board straightening experiment and I've been watching ever since. Your numbers are growing, keep it up and happy holidays!

[@joeyrector1015]

I agree with you. I've always done it the second way that you showed. That's the way that I was thought

[@RussWilson]

Great Video!!! I have also wondered why people cut the back cut on an angle!

[@JoneyJefe]

Thank you for this. I was never shown how to properly fell a tree. I do it often enough to be dangerous. And I’ve done it wrong every time with lucky results.

[@VegasEdo]

The angled back cut is from inexperience and thinking it's a safe guard against the tree falling the wrong way as you mentioned. It really clicked with me when someone said if you have to wedge, the angled cut presses the wood apart splitting the stump and a flat cut pushes the wedge straight down into the stump and straight up into the tree so it's impossible to split the stump, assuming the tree is solid.

[@justsumname]

I'm east coast and I knew this already 😊

[@billietyree2214]

Entertaining and educational, but with the deepest respect I must say that I was shocked when you leaned your saw against a tree with the blade in (apparently) in the dirt. Shocking.

[@lr3465]

Awesome explanation of why & how to do it, appreciate it

[@C-Wilsons-View]

Love the channels name! Wilson 💪. Thanks for sharing your knowledge 🖖🖖

[@leonbarry5403]

0:45 i was thought this technique by an old government land worker. His thinking on it was that the cut was cupping the tree so it wouldn't slip and come back. I mentioned that the tree will fall at highest hinge and could fall back quite easily. He replied. He never used the cut on a straight up tree only ever on leaning trees. For him the angle of the tree was the determining factor. His face cut was never flat though always slightly angled down.

[@vdog4799]

This was a great tutorial/ instruction! Very well done thank you!

[@southronjr1570]

I tried my first tree or two when I first started dropping trees with the angled back cut and quickly discovered the reason why you dont do that, I had the tree lean back on me and sheared the hinge and darned near hit my truck, if I had parked 10 foot closer, it would have been a real bad day. I never had anyone teach me and this was before youtube existed, heck internet speeds were so slow, it would take 2 hours for a picture to load. I asked around and between talking to some old loggers and dropping smaller trees before going for the bigger one, I learned. Also, I have used the humboldt cut before but I usually want to leave as little of the stump so I use a conventional undercut for my notches and bring my back cut straight over leaving just a few inches of wood above ground. Makes driving tractors and such over them much easier and I dont have to do a second cut to get the stump down.

[@yourpalal2853]

Totally agree with your analysis of this stupid back cut. I have never done one and never will. Loved the stashing of the evidence but I would have burned those ends to ash instead of leaving them in the forest!!! 😊

[@Mark6E]

Good video. In the UK we are taught to use a dogs tooth angled cut for forward leaners. The angle is just the trigger, it has a bore cut to prevent barber chair and set the hinge. A bore cut then normal back cut is likely better but not taught here.

[@danmaciosekmaciosek6166]

As always, a wealth of information!

[@mattd6086]

I've been an arborist for over 30 years, and I still see a lot of this. I call it a homeowner notch, yet I often see it on job sites where it's obvious that a contractor did it. It's a dead giveaway that whoever did it is no professional.

[@MsdMakingSawDust]

Good video on explaining the difference in the cuts. I’ve gotten some logs from some tree services I get logs from that have the slanted angle cut on the logs. And I just wonder what there thinking. Thanks for sharing

[@abodao]

Great video, explained in detail, Thank you. My chainsaw will never do that part I wasn't supposed to see.

[@ThubanDraconis]

Now we know, and knowing is half the battle... the other half is apparently a chainsaw. Seriously, thanks for an informative lesson.

[@ryanfarmer4691]

I heat with wood so I cut alot...lm no lumberjack but enjoy your insight and techniques...I'm envous of some of your cool logging toys I wish I had ! Merry Christmas

[@oldschooljack3479]

It's very important that a logger not lose his cards... Because he's already lost all his marbles. And before I even pushed play, I figured it had to do with this method weakening the hinge.

[@notagain8661]

Very clear, thanks. Ok, I'll stop the angle cutting!

[@lesterreichert3541]

First time seeing one of your videos...🤘🤘 You're quite hilarious with the presentation 😅 Great job 👍👍

[@dgoodman1484]

Not to mention that you had to cut more on the angled and the chain cuts most efficiently perpendicular to the grain. No idea where people got that idea either but it’s popular 🤦🏻‍♂️👍🏼

[@threedrainer]

When he made the joke about making a humble cut, I just about split a limb! Way to branch out to guys like me! I'll be bark-ing about this for awhile! Root... ring-er.. good show.

[@duanebaalson2287]

I was taught by a professional logger. If you have that narrow a hinge area, that is a good way to get slapped when it kicks back at you. The finished hinge distance is more than 8 inches, that way the tree will continue to fall forward as it falls. That is how I learned.

[@smurface549]

There is actually a technique where an angled back cut is the best choice: Somewhat small, heavily forward leaning trees. However, one would not cut in straight from the back as you showed, but use a plunge cut and leave a little wood in the back to keep the tree from falling prematurely. That allows to form the hinge without any rush, there's all the time in the world to prepare the felling cut properly. Once everything is set up, one just cuts the retaining wood in the back and the tree goes over. The reason this particular cut is angled is the small diameter on which it is used. The bar is simply too wide for plunge cut with the bar held flat and would therefore compromise the hinge. So the bar is angled, similarly as you showed, to reduce the amount of space it needs in the horizontal direction. And of course it's only used in this very particular application. Any larger tree one would cut with a conventional horizontal cut. This technique is btw taught by a state-run school for professional loggers in Bavaria (Germany). You can see the explanation in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXipo3mvhc55psUsi=YfYVjwxc5xMxGOw6 Just put on auto-translated captions - sometimes the result will be funny, as the speech recognition gets confused about the Bavarian dialect, but I trust you get the idea. The idea of a plunge cut and keeping some retaining wood in the back until wedges are set etc. is nowadays set to become the standard felling technique in some European countries, but that's independent of the angled bar though.

[@douglasbliss5595]

As a young man, I did residential tree removal, and we did do this style cut, but only with weight forward cuts with small trees

[@smurface549]

@@douglasbliss5595 yes, absolutely. It's not a technique to use on every tree. Most trees one would cut with a normal, horizontal back cut ..

[@sanpansam7977]

Excellent information! Thanks.

[@alainlefebvre9860]

I've seen "evidence" of people using this cut. I knew it was wrong but couldn't explain why. This video explains it well. I think the splitting tendency, under certain conditions, is a potential deadly nightmare. If the tree starts leaning back and splitting, you better be very quick. 😆

[@lorriebuxton2041]

Back in the seventies Husqvarna had instructions in manual how to tell a tree friend of mine who had no experience told me that was the correct way told him he was nuts

[@kenbrown2808]

the logic I can see for an angled back cut would be on standing deadwood, where the hinge has no pliability, it MIGHT catch when the hinge snaps instead of flexing, and the tree tries to kick out. or if it's a big enough tree, you can make a chair with a backrest to sit and have a beverage.

[@stevedenis8292]

Well now we know and knowing ins half the battle. The traditional way is easier and provides a flat surface to sit on after or rest you beverage on.

[@j10001]

Great illustration!

[@jylbo]

The most important part for an apprentice lumberjack is getting rid of the evidence, I get it, thank you very much!

[@johnburakowski61]

Also important to make your notch wide enough so that the tree can travel 90 degrees without breaking off the hinge. Once the butt breaks away from the stump, you lost control.

[@L46C3]

Can you tell me if you thinned out the woods in the background? Or was this a sparsely wooded area? To me, it's beautiful!

[@TheNightshadePrince]

I’ve been hand sawing dead pines and having them fall on the other side of the weg, I’ve been doing it by cans with a bow saw. :) lol Btw the double does cut seems scary it’s almost like how some people cut two weges into the tree to get it to fall how they want but I think that’s mostly used for cutting with an axe.

[@rickmelhuish1602]

Top down notch is what is taught here in Oz

[@user-yq1rc6or9x]

Thanks for a grear video.

[@TheOldManAndTheSaw]

I've see a lot of people do that angle cut and I wonder "where the hell did you learn that!" Being polite, I won't say that it's stupid. Not like leaving your toeboard up. Dave

[@ccthepope]

Great explanation!

[@bradlilly8603]

Make sense to me, however, I never did and angled back cut. Us east coast guys cut top notches because we usually can get closer to the ground with our back cuts. 4" of stem is worth getting

[@Jaun2Three]

I come for the comedy. The sawyerings nice too.

[@L46C3]

Is the forest in the background thinned out or have you just cleaned up the floor?

[@sunbear1973]

Nicely done, educational and entertaining 😂👍

[@DavidGarber-s5g]

4:38 “....lifting up on the hinge....” Noo! Pressing down behind the hinge!

[@chaswarren7239]

Not to mention that angled back cuts require a longer cut and partly in line with the grain, which is exactly how your chain is not designed to cut.

[@SeascapeStl]

What is the black thing behind you in many of the shots? Well described.

[@joshpage8464]

Do you happen to be filming this video in southern Oregon? Specifically around cave junction - grants pass area?

[@FredFlintstone21]

Awesome video! Very informative! Do you have a video on different types of hard hats? Trying to decide which one to buy. Thanks!

[@RinkyRoo2021]

Wind damage sometimes you end up making all sorts of weird cuts ,if trees fall and then get tangled etc

[@davefran01]

It'll be our secret ! Good morning 😜

[@stuffnsuch631]

Its fairly evident. Its so you can fit more wedge into a smaller tree. Good for hardwood thats harder to roll over center.

[@oscarwindham6016]

In the first place, a professional arborist/logger would never stick the end of the chainsaw bar in the dirt because nothing dulls a chainsaw's cutting chain, with the exception of there being a nail in the tree, faster than dirt/sand. Secondly, there is no better safety than to have that angled back-cut in a tree that is near perfectly straight upright which back-cut prevents a sudden gust of wind from causing a tree to be pushed the wrong way at just the wrong moment, especially when felling a pine tree, as is shown here by having that angled back-cut act as a safety stop that prevents the tree from falling any other way except in the direction of the notch. The angled back-cut is extremely effective and has been used since logging was invented and will always be used in the future by a true professional who knows what he is doing.