Silo Season 2 Episode 9 Breakdown | Recap & Review

[@CryptographyFan]

Omg, Rebecca Ferguson and Steve Zahn delivery was monumental. The insight she facilitated and how it was delivered, a revelation- was great acting.

[@trisin]

“You got my message?” Sims: “no paul, I just wanted to walk down 100 levels” 😂😂😂😂

[@scpatl4now]

I think Knox knows it's Walker, but is trying to play Bernard by that whole conversation with Walker which I think is feeding Bernard a fake story

[@adeleyemathew2112]

I think so too!!

[@kcmouse]

I sure hope so!

[@itsbigcliff5178]

Yesss

[@advlou]

I agree, I might rewatch previous episodes and see if he notices the camera has been put back up.. 🤓

[@Hobodeluxe007]

exactly. he wanted to provoke a response. my guess is he is setting his own ambush.

[@ANDR0iD]

It was obvious that Solo was a kid when the rebellion happened. The actor really sold the childishness in the very first scene. The girl with a bow was soooo bloodthirsty lol.

[@germansnowman]

She was very annoying TBH. I get it, but I feel she was overacting a bit.

[@RJAmes-w1j]

@@germansnowmanyeah I think the character was trying to be brave or felt she needed to get revenge for her parents out of ptsd or something. I liked Rick’s character a lot so far. He seems like Juliet in a way where he has some optimism regardless of what people may have done and that’s also because in their situation they’d have a different “world”view than any of us ever would

[@AB-ol8qy]

@@germansnowman Yeah, pretty unrealistic to be that bloodthirsty for revenge after 30 years, lol

[@germansnowman]

@@AB-ol8qy What I’m saying is that the acting was a bit over the top IMO. There was hardly any nuance, she was just angry and willing to kill at any time. But the rest of the episode made up more than enough for this minor quibble :)

[@WenMare]

When a mother has her younglings at heart, you'll get fkd up.

[@AB-ol8qy]

By far the best episode of season 2, and one of the best of the series. Can't wait for the finale, it should be dope!

[@Jaseford]

I initially thought Meadows saying to Bernard that she couldn't tell him what she found out when she disappeared was a lame plot contrivance. Awesome how this episode completely shifts the understanding on why she couldn't say anything. She knew she was always being watched.

[@ulyssesfraire]

Aaaaahhhhhh! I'm going to have to back and rewatch that episode now!!!

[@kimberlyrobinson3992]

Oh, good point!! When she said that she couldn’t, she literally meant that she *couldn’t.* That also solves the mystery of where she went that one time when Bernard lost track of her. No wonder she dived into the bottle for all those years after what she found out.

[@SusanbVT555]

Knox def knows it’s Walker. He signaled with his eyes that he knew and used specific language to convey it. It harkens back to the prior speech he made about not punishing people too harshly when they do things out of love for family/loved ones. Walker def got the message and knows Knox is now using it to mislead Bernard.

[@janeaa4666]

He does know and his conversation with Walk was full of innuendos

[@TheeBurgerDude]

As somebody who read the books, I actually like how they've changed things while still staying true to the main plot and themes. It does keep you on your toes a bit more! Very curious how they'll wrap this season up!

[@PetePeppers1]

They're doing a good job of adding to the experience.

[@mikegiunta4560]

I'm not completely on board with the changes.

[@adrianspeeder]

You are crazy. These changes are terrible and only made to make the filming cheaper.

[@RJAmes-w1j]

“You’ve never eaten a rat?” “No - I mean I don’t think so…” would be my internal thought if I were Jules

[@DylanMadd]

A little like the gelatin cubes in Snowpiercer (the movie. Don’t know the show). Like, WHO KNOWS what’s in the food. After 200 years, I can’t believe they have enough cows for 10,000 people. I think you’re absolutely right: Juliet might *think* she’s never eaten rat. But…

[@richiehoyt8487]

Just pass on the Soylent Green... Although they do say, it tastes kinda like pork!

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

how would they know what a RAT even is an not know what a bird is

[@fluffyspunsugar]

LOL, that was similar to my thoughts, too. My response would have been "Not that I'm aware of."

[@richiehoyt8487]

@@fluffyspunsugarIts 6 hetto snobbery... You know -- "Yeah, _of course_ we've had rat... Boiled rat, fried rat, pickled Goddam rat - but f%&ked if we're letting the _neighbours_ know that!"

[@adeleyemathew2112]

Suspense upon suspense this episode!! What an episode!!🔥🔥🔥

[@SilverScale.]

Knox said it all with his eyes -- he figured out the snitch is Walk, and that she was probably being monitored. So he told her he thinks it's Teddy's mom b/c it's a similar situation (she also had a loved one being threatened up top), and that he understands (doesn't blame Walk). He then then referenced what's most likely a FAKE PLAN, turning the situation into a double-agent one, with Walk on his side (otherwise she would have tipped off Bernard), by saying out loud what the plan is. Like "Help me throw Bernard a red herring." And she did. It was a brilliant scene, I loved it.

[@Kafka_on_the_plane]

Finally an exciting episode! The two snapshots of the decoded message from Quinn indicate some extra text between "safeguard." and "reason be damned" that were not shown yet. Likely explaining what the safeguard is?

[@ScooterDoge]

Meadows told Bernard before she died there was something she couldnt tell him, and she didn’t. good on her. Now I really wanna know what the safeguard is and what the door has to say.

[@robertholland1664]

Oh, I hope the door does not become the Great and Powerful OZ.

[@Thedude.997]

The safeguard is probably flooding the whole Silo

[@Khatake6th]

Nope, its poison gas ​@@Thedude.997

[@kalebgonzales4009]

@@Thedude.997 not flooding but maybe nano machine gassing. It's in the books that gassing is the only option if the silo successfully rebels. I'm not sure here, the tunnel is new territory for me.

[@LovethisNation]

This episode was 10/10. Perfect pacing. A shame we had to wait 9 episodes

[@roro-mm7cc]

I loved all the episodes this season! This was a highlight though!

[@Hobodeluxe007]

nah it was great. all those characters in 18 had to have those experiences to inform the decisions they are making now. and they have to happen in the same time frame as what is going on in 17.

[@ravenouscadaver8]

I havent been struggling with the pacing as much as some seem to be, but I still think they held on to the mystery just a little too long eh.

[@roro-mm7cc]

@@Hobodeluxe007 the suspense made the pay off more enjoyable.

[@Jaseford]

This episode wouldn't have hit as hard without the build-up. I think the real problem is that this is a series that needs to be binged, not watched week-to-week.

[@teachingriver3684]

You are the best breakdown guy, you do an incredible job of seeing deeper than just the story. Great job I watch your video after I watch episode, I swap screens and play because damn homie!

[@DylanMadd]

Did the same thing!! Can’t get enough of this show…!

[@mythrapi73]

I agree, Pete's breakdowns are the best and I'm spoiled to the point of not feeling complete until I've watched his recaps..thank you, sir

[@nbey2233]

im just glad they finally revealed the secret judge meadows was keeping from the Bernard...

[@RageofVaddix]

After watching this episode I caved and finally bought the trilogy on Amazon. It even went down in price from $48 to $34 this morning. They'll arrive on Thursday just in time for the finale. I can't freaking wait!

[@jared7360]

Just be prepared. Book 2 is a complete tone shift. I liked it but if your looking for what happens right after in Jules and silo 18s story you’ll be disappointed

[@mythrapi73]

just finished Wool and the books are different from the tv series. Not totally different but don't expect Wool to end like the tv series at all. Shift is a prequel which I'm just starting and you won't get more Jules til Dust, the third book

[@laaori]

​​@@mythrapi73 lol I finished the whole trilogy and Shift (2nd book) isn't JUST a prequel. [Mild spoiler ahead] Juliette is also in the second book. It was actually my favorite out of the three, which I was not expecting!

[@markchapman5811]

I’m thinking of reading it too.

[@usquebaugh1]

This was an amazing breakdown, recap & review. I especially appreciated reminding me / us of the flashback scene at 9:02 (that we initially saw at the beginning of this season), that portrays the aftermath of the shooting, without the direct action / correlation (gun to the head) seen in this episode. I actually went back after this episode and watched the first 12 minutes of S02E01 up until the credits start to remind myself of exactly what happened. When we see the blood spatter from episode 1 of this season (Jeff: "my hand slipped, why wouldn't he (Russell) open the door." Jeff's wife: "He was told not to."), we don't know what caused the spatter, but assume it's from an incident resulting from the chaos of the rebellion. Now we, as well as all the characters in silo 19 know exactly what went down. This episode filled in a lot of blanks and I am very much looking forward to seeing how this season wraps up and where it leaves us.

[@kalebgonzales4009]

In the books, The vault was a grungy bunker-like place and Solo had a designated place to crap since the toilet no longer works. Here, they did a better job making the vault more appealing and more creative than the books!

[@ctam1977]

It was an excellent episode, and your breakdown and insights are pretty spot on in my opinion, I am excited for what's to come.

[@heartofdawn2341]

A couple thoughts here: Being told about the safeguard is what drove Meadows to drink. It's that bad. Eater leaves with Jules and goes back to 18, and blows everyone's minds. Bernard can't cover that up. And a bit of wild speculation: The 50 silos are _inside_ 51, and we still don't know what the real world is like.

[@mythrapi73]

So Jules just walks back with Eater both with limited air and hoping the poison dust doesn't kill them while waving for someone to just open up the doors? I hope Jules is smarter than that knowing how dangerous it would be to have Eater go with her not knowing situation in 18 and that plan would only work IF the rebellion succeeded and they did away with Bernard by then

[@caphatfrog1464]

@@mythrapi73she’s good she got plot armor

[@robpuchyr7407]

I’ve suspected all the silos are domed with a volume of toxic air and earth and the whole thing is a reality TV show.

[@cindytartt4048]

Why? If there’s a silo 17 and an 18 and if you’re told there’s 51 then that MEANS fifty one silos. 😂

[@heartofdawn2341]

@@mythrapi73 If Jules showed up at the door, the entire Silo would be wanting her back in, and Even Bernard couldn't stop everyone.

[@ross-carlson]

@10:00 "What song would you play someone who's never heard music?" - As a musician that REALLY hit me hard, as in my eyes welled up with tears at not only the thought of someone never having heard music but at the INCREDIBLE responsibility you would have in sharing something wonderful. So what would it be? I think it would have to be a symphony - Hosts The Planets, Bolero, Ride of the Valkyries - those pop in my head first. As a jazz musician Kinda Blue by Miles Davis (my all time favorite album) or Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd. Wow, what a HUGE question.

[@TheeBurgerDude]

Van Halen first two albums.

[@richiehoyt8487]

An enormous responsibility for sure... Just think how you could ruin someone for music by playing them Lou Bega's 'Mambo №5'!

[@selecttravelvacations7472]

I would definitely start with some Jazz or World Beat.

[@DallasNatureLover]

Queen Bohemian Rhapsody

[@iketurner5162]

NBA youngboy - just flow.

[@KaoukabiJaouad]

The best episode of this season hands down, I teared up when the whole story of "Solo" unfolded, what a story.

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Just a general quick comment on your channel. I found your channel with your videos for For All Mankind. I haven't watched all of your show breakdowns, just the ones that intrigue me. But that included the shows I have watched as well as the ones I haven't. Well explained but really warm too.

[@omidwm6876]

The best episode of the entire series. Hands down.

[@folonrng]

did like, did subscribe. really like the care and thought you put into your work.

[@aarxn.k28]

It’s well worth waiting for your breakdowns Pete, I watched others in anticipation for yours and they just don’t hit like yours. Thank you!

[@kodak49]

Steve Zahn was great casting

[@MarcosGarcia-pj3pq]

he always is

[@trisin]

Walker: “since when did you have to knock?” His name is Knocks. 😂😂😂

[@jonathanbuckley1174]

Epic episode .. so many revelations !! 51 silo's!! Must be controlled by silo 1.?

[@AB-ol8qy]

Yeah, that was by far the best episode of season 2, it was season 1 quality.

[@mr.duanesharpe]

Or maybe not silo 1. Just one giant separate silo that watches all silos. Government type.

[@heartofdawn2341]

@@mr.duanesharpe that's my thought too. That's where The Algorithm operates from, and the only way into it is via the tunnel.

[@mr.duanesharpe]

@@heartofdawn2341 It reminds me of Fall Out”. The game and the show. The tunnels are interconnected however there is a “base” of operations. This show, makes it seem as if this is a backwoods type. But look at all the tech, the thought process, the AI, the level of “levels” according to human nature. The “top” versus the “deep”. Middle class, lower class, upper class. Therefore IMO. There has to be a “one” that rules and this is the “elites”. For all I know, the people in the silos are just case studies and I’m not sure about the “why”, I can only guess. So if not Silo 1 or the 52nd which is the “White House” of silos, I guess season 3 or the finale of this season of a “hint”. 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

[@GENERALBR1GGS]

51st silo not 52nd

[@Striker163videos]

Great episode!

[@SilverCyric]

The child would be an orphan. If that silly girl thinks she can run around putting arrows in everyone and there’s no consequence… 🤦‍♂️

[@MrKrtek00]

Knox knows it is Walker, and most probably figured it out considering all the communication channels. This is why he also knows the camera is most proably working, and that is why he is telling this way everything to Walker,

[@AB-ol8qy]

Yes, Knox deffo knows. He's playin' Bernard like a fiddle.

[@Tonius126]

I like knox, reminds me of myself, poeple think muscular and tall people as meat heads but we can be very perceptive.

[@AB-ol8qy]

@@Tonius126 Yes. Knox is a smart meat head.

[@cmajaa1]

He also had his back to the camera

[@bookswithabel]

This episode made me love this show again

[@wesleymons]

Silo 1 must be some Uber-Silo or management silo that has control over all the others!!

[@mrj4082]

I think thats the 51st Bernard mentioned

[@TysonFuryTheGOAT]

/SPOILER ALERT, yet that's what it is, they possess the ability to kill off the other silos, should they misbehave.

[@iketurner5162]

@@TysonFuryTheGOATexactly! Cuz Lukas makes the point at the end once he figures out the water might not even be deep, that the water should be way higher and then him and the girl say to each other there must be a generator of some sort regulating the water from not rising. Which from Julia and solo episode of her swimming down to turn it on and bring the water down to stop it from rising so his silo isn’t ruined forever, hence him stealing her suit and making her fix it before she can leave.

[@mercilessforever]

As a sole tv series viewer and not having read the books I dont think solo was meant to be a mystery origins wise. I thought it was obvious once they showed steve zahn that it was a survivor child from the rebellion. He talks and acts like a child it was obvious imo. His name /identity is the twist imo not the fact he isn’t a killer badguy etc

[@PetePeppers1]

It was always hard to tell what people who didn't know would pick up on. It seemed obvious to me, but I was already clued in. The same goes for the shots that were set off in the distance to make it look like someone was watching them and the cut rope.

[@youtubegoogleb]

best episode this season by far its not even close

[@AB-ol8qy]

Totally agree, this episode was as good as the season 1 episodes.

[@TysonFuryTheGOAT]

You could almost literally only watch episode 1 and episode 9 and not miss anything.

[@brunorabelais9027]

Nah u need ep 4 , the one jugde died

[@youtubegoogleb]

realo

[@jrs2257]

Exactly its like naruto filler episodes instead 1-2 here and there its 8 episodes of nothing and bam full blown fight scene.

[@berlindude75]

Or maybe what you really want is a simple and short Powerpoint presentation with all the major plot points laid bare. Because when you seem to have the attention span of a fruit fly (hallmark of the TikTok generation), why bother with character development and audiovisual long-form storytelling, right? 🙄

[@sirath35]

Agreed. Season 1 was immense and so much happened. Season 2 has been thin on plot and thin on character development. Lots of history and time/perspective skips… so you use the runtime to get lost momentum.

[@Bostich]

Finally an episode where stuff happens.

[@antiquarian1773]

this is the best show I have ever watched. its so good and i am surprised its not more popular.

[@kimberlyrobinson3992]

Unfortunately, you just said it yourself. It’s a good show. It’s well-written and smart and it demands that the audience pay attention. It brings up important subject like truth and lies and the freedom of information. Was Salvador Quinn a hero or a villain, for example? On the one hand, he unilaterally decided that the silo population shouldn’t have any old books that showed how the outside was before. Was it his right, ethically, to make that decision? He’s condemned generations of Silo 18 residents to ignorance. In some ways, the people of 18 know less than they did in the Dark Ages. On the other hand, Quinn stopped the periodic uprisings from happening for almost a century and a half. That’s no small thing. Silo 18 could have ended up like Silo 17 if he hadn’t made that decision. So, hero or villain - who’s to say? I also think Apple TV could have done a better job at marketing the show. That’s basically true across the board. They only promoted “Foundation” very heavily, in my opinion, because it’s a famous property. But, I think the fact that “Silo” is very deep and intelligent is the primary reason it’s not more popular. Most people want the 30th comic book movie in a row from the Marvel/DC universes; they don’t want to think.

[@blackhero911]

Also, Knox said Terry's Mom is the rat. That doesn't make sense because Terry was one of the guys who was caught in the raid. Why would Terry's mom rat out her son. It was a way to let Walker know that he knows she is the rat.

[@molusco1059]

Did anyone else noticed the apparent contradiction when the Algorithm says if Lukas says anything the safeguard would be initiated? Yet when asked how he learn about the tunnel Lukas says Salvador Quinn told him, consequently the safeguard should be initiated. Or am I missing something

[@robertholland1664]

I should think the algorithm would know Quinn was dead and couldn't speak to Lucas. Then again, visitors 2,3 and 4 are contemporary. Algorithm has some explaining to do.

[@DIVINECR3ATION]

Quinn technically didn't tell him. He left the coded message behind for other to figure out the truth. The Algorithm did not know this.

[@mythrapi73]

what seems odd to me is after hundreds of years in a Silo with limited space only 4 ppl made it down there? it's not like it's that hard to find, just go down all the way, get over your fear of water and then bingo Safequard found. This wasn't in the books and I love the tv series even more but this seems like an idea not totally thought out as it should

[@molusco1059]

@@robertholland1664 If the algorithm is smart enough to know that, then it should be smart enough to know that the information they want to guard is compromised and consequently someone else ( or more than someone) may already know such info.

[@dominiccoleman8499]

Since Lukas is shadow to the head of IT he is allowed to know this information. Additionally Meadows falls under this category, and Quinn was a head of IT. That is why George never found out the info from the algorithm, because he was just a regular guy. I think the algorithm knows who is there and if they have clearance to know what is going on.

[@Optimus21]

best episode so far

[@tigason232]

Final scene leads me to believe that Judge Meadow wanted to commit suicide by cleaning outside. She knew the game was rigged and that they were just pieces on a board. Pretty depressing information

[@ResistanceB.7]

I thought that too that's why she was drinking every day just to forget what she had seen down there plus the fact that she couldn't tell anyone cause the safeguard would eventually be activated.....😉

[@OscarFowler]

I thought it was clear from when she first mentioned it that she expected to die by going outside, but that at least she'd die "free". That said, knowing now about the 'safeguard' certainly adds a lot more to her motivations.

[@CSqrdX]

She literally had that conversation with Bernard.

[@robcannon]

Incredible episode. It's a shame it was so dark. I have an OLED TV with great contrast and I had to make some big adjustments to see this episode.

[@GENERALBR1GGS]

I had no problems & I have an OLED TV as well 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@adeleyemathew2112]

Finally been waiting!!🔥🔥🔥

[@Nerd_of_Anarchy]

Honestly, can't watch the show alone. Gotta have your recaps!

[@1chrisford]

Yost's deliberate slower paced episodes led to powerful, gratifying scenes like the non-verbal close of Solo and Juliette - hand on shoulder, the two moving closer, Solos head turned in a sort of shy gratitude. Robbins did a fine job dominating in Silo 18 even with short scenes, few lines. People complained about slower pacing and slow resolution of mysteries - but Graham Yost did the investment then to get a bigger payoff to fans in the closing episodes. And people in both Silos are in danger, things are building to a showdown in 18. And in 17 to use what assets in the Vault - and if Juliette finally makes contact with Lukas in the Final episode or takes a dramatic walk back.and getting a safeguard warning somehow understood. So gratifying that the two vaults were as different as I expected. Bernard's ultra orderly immaculate vault and Solo's messy huge "college freshmen dorm room" . And all sorts of open questions remain. And when the Season 2 video previews were up, there is a major spoiler that has developed if you go back and look now [it resolves the gunpowder and contact questions]. Little strips of paper coming........soon.

[@advlou]

I wonder if they’ll try to move people from 18>17 and save the down deep that way..

[@mythrapi73]

@@advlou prolly not til season 4 at least

[@cindytartt4048]

Yes, the way they turned away and he touched a shoulder- in a time where touching can mean violence, was lovely.

[@cindytartt4048]

@@advlouooh sounds good. But yes in S4. We heard that robotic voice so I think we’ll find out who the voice belongs to and why they maybe built silos. Clearly they are number 51 as Bernard mentioned

[@DylanMadd]

Have NOT read the books. It’s SO HARD to keep from Googling answers. Love this show - despite all the good tv we’ve had to start 2025, I look forward to Friday the most. And yet, I feel like it’s going to be YEARS before a season 3. We’ll see what Apple TV+ does…

[@Kiramaye]

I was waiting for you!!😊

[@fuzz439]

Knox is def trying to feed Bernard false info by pretending he doesn't know Walk is the snitch. That'll for sure come up again

[@joelsantos3092]

I was actually fearing that they'd sidetracked the narrative, with the questions piling up with very few answers in return. This episode was awesome, though. The season ending will be epic. We might even hear from (or even see) Silo 1.

[@shamus12]

He knows it’s Walk, and Walk knows he knows.

[@kimberlyrobinson3992]

I’m sure about the one; I’m not sure about the other. I think Walker was convinced when Knox said he thought the snitch was Teddy’s mother but I couldn’t be sure. Her facial expressions were inconclusive to me. Right now, I’m leaning towards believing that Walker didn’t pick up on Knox trying to tell her that he knows the mole is her. My reason is this: if Bernard acts on false information, he’s going to blow up and be furious when he learns he’s been played. He will then probably take his rage out on Karla. That’s the last thing Walker wants. So, if she really thought her cover had been blown, she would tell Bernard that the most recent intel might not be trustworthy.

[@Daddyhack2174]

Eater is crazy work for a nick name. 😅. I have eaters save in my phone for different reasons.

[@komodiT1]

The way you recapped 10:28 just hits so well. Solo's little taps... oof

[@TheKeyser94]

Now that I think about it, Silo have the same issue that I have seen in other post apocalyptic or fantasy with slight critic to capitalism, their solution is not change the system, only put another better leader after the prior was killed, after I realise that, it was a very let down to a premise to books and a TV Show like this. This is your solution? Not change the system? Not make it better? Only change the leader that would make slight thinks to the systems to make it more bearable for the people living the Silo. It seems that the phrase: "Is more easy to imaging the end of the world than the end of capitalism" continue to ring true.

[@natecaplin4374]

Without spoiling anything, book 2 (Shift) spends almost half of its length on Solo’s (Jimmy’s) backstory from when his dad, the head of IT in Silo 17, put his son into vault during a rebellion there to when Jules arrives. But the way the show has weaved the key events into this episode (everyone in Silo 17 going out, Solo killing the Kid’s parents when they crack vault code and enter, Jimmy’s dad getting shot outside vault door) makes me think the show may entirely skip the rest of his backstory in future seasons and instead focus solely on the rest of the events of Shift, which is essentially a prequel from a near future of the world we as viewers/readers know today up until the events we have seen unfold thus far in the show, but told from the perspective of those who created the silos in the first place and oversee all the other silos from Silo 1, a “shift” at a time over centuries.

[@natecaplin4374]

This is why I’m so jazzed about Season 3, assuming they manage to fully wrap up the events of the first book (Wool) in the Season 2 finale, which seams likely-hopefully- given where Ep 9 ended)…. I love it when great sci-fi series change perspective/settings dramatically at some point during their run. Think of Fringe when they first revealed with “other side” universe or toward the end of that show’s run when in episode entitled “Letters of Transit” suddenly it was set in the future when the Observers had taken over setting the stage for the entirety of its last season which was in that setting. In other words, the world suddenly gets much larger and you realize that to date you’ve only seen a tiny slice of it all. I’m dying to see how a show like Silo will portray “our” world of the present (or very near future as it may be based on the dates used in the book Shift) and especially the transition from that to the world of Silo that we have come to know from Seasons 1 and 2 of the show.

[@Jaseford]

Probably for the best. Solo's backstory in the books is even sadder than what's been shown on screen.

[@tiberazur3]

They like thr original silo and thr characters more. Prob all.the budget and casting went there. So the director focuses more on that story compared to books original telling.

[@mikegiunta4560]

"Shift" has practically no Jules in it. There is no way an entire season without Rebecca Ferguson would fly.

[@nora-.-g]

Fantastic episode compared to recent ones!

[@scpatl4now]

This was a great episode

[@jcny11]

Really liking this show, but you can hardly see it! I have my display turned up to max brightness and you can still hardly see. I get they are inside a deactivated silo, but it’s still TV folks!

[@RussellColeman]

yep, I enjoy the show too but have to watch it in a totally darkened room with just what little light we get from the show.

[@aarxn.k28]

Realised that season 1 episode 1, it adds to it having to watch it in a darkened room

[@froschmitmaske]

The voice spoke to two characters over the span of over a hundred years but not to George.... Probably a hint on the identity of the voice being closer to the books than it seems.

[@dominiccoleman8499]

I haven't read the books, but I think it has to do with George not being the head of IT or shadow to the head.

[@bradleywoods1999]

The first half of the season was excellent, the miidle was ok and the end is shaping up to be excellent. Overall I'm very happy with the season and can't wait for the final, that ending scene was amazing.

[@RJAmes-w1j]

1:11 Could someone explain to me why Lucas would surmise the water wasn’t that deep? Or that pumps would be there? Could it not be standing water of some unknown depth like a deep well?

[@A_Man_Of_Culture_]

His reason was that despite it being below the silo and un maintained the water level doesnt change unlike the ground water that mechanical has to actively pump so he surmised that there must be an unknown pump down there keeping the water at a consistent level for some reason

[@usquebaugh1]

It always fun to get to use the word "penultimate" when appropriate. 😄

[@Metallic-Sun]

I've always liked that since I first heard that word on Soundgarden's An Unkind.

[@usquebaugh1]

@@Metallic-Sun Coincidentally, I'm a huge Soundgarden fan and caught them live multiple times in the early 90s. 🤘

[@starks1974]

The darkness in this episode was too much in certain scenes.

[@giulianomarco]

Walker must have assisted Meadows to get down to the tunnel 25 years ago. Walker said something like "that's how we got in this whole mess". Her break-up with Carla - which she did for love, in order to protect her. That's why she shut herself away all that time. They must've been threatened with the "safeguard" too. Hence Meadow's booze habit and wanting to go out (away from any brain-implant trigger or kill-the-silo command from the master A.I. in Silo #51)

[@IndianGeek5589]

But then the voice would have mentioned their name....

[@robertholland1664]

It's never shown that Meadows and Walker interacted in life.

[@warrick3w881]

Finally is gonna be so good.... Can't wait

[@FritzAlcindorJr]

Best episode this season. Finally something is advancing in the other Silo.

[@SaitanicTurkey]

I have a theory, the door might be the “safeguard” and opens to the air or whatever on the surface. The other Silo might have found this out and decided to flood it to cut off the threat thinking they were either going to fall prey to the “safeguard” or risk the outside. Thinking about it like that I would understand risking it givin the other option, to your knowledge is a %0 chance of survival while going outside it might still be up in the air. This would also explain what the other Silo’s Sheriff’s wife said to him saying “what if he was lying” and the sheriff says “ we will all be dead anyway.” This didn’t really make sense if you think about it. Surly the head of IT was telling them it was deadly to go outside. So the context doesn’t make sense. But if he was telling them about the “safeguard” since the silo was already gonna be flooded and the threat was gone so he could spill the beans.

[@blackhero911]

I believe Knox knows the rat is Walker. She has stayed in her room ever since she got back from the top. Knox found that very particular, and somehow Bernard found out their plans. She has been roaming around recently and now staying in her room... it is not normal for her., she has not complained about getting her wife since she returned as well.

[@NjabuloNxele]

Eater’s name is hope as per insights on appletv

[@gmichia]

This has to be the most productive episode ever.

[@robpuchyr7407]

Jules must’ve been marvelling pretty hard realizing she’s seeing a copy of the legacy room that she surmises her own silo has.

[@eddieterrell5457]

Ole girl wanting to kill everybody got on my freaking nerves!!

[@Roron0a_Z0ro]

that was definitely not a machine speaking to Lukas, I haven't read the books and potential spoilers ahead but I am pretty sure it's the founders, one of them at least

[@Ru5hMusic]

the 'WalkCam' 🤣🤣

[@Okafor1000]

I think I know what the safeguard is. Water. If Lucas Kyle tells anyone what he has seen, there will be a flood of water that will consume the entire silo level after level after level until half the silois consumed with water like what happened in Silo 17. But hey, I could be wrong. Right now we all guessing what the safeguard could be 😂

[@SMFizzy]

Interesting theory but solo mentioned Judicial raiders caused the flooding as a last resort against mechanical.

[@Okafor1000]

@SMFizzy for that to happen the raiders would have had to travel down deep to mechanicals through the rebellion. Did they make it that far?. I am also confused as well but I cannot wait for final episode to see how it all unravels. Ps. Audrey is insufferable

[@alanastaren8088]

To check all combinations with 3 tries per day they need approximately 9 years. Insane

[@RJAmes-w1j]

I need someone to make a silo 17 genealogy diagram and timeline of events based on stuff like what you calculated

[@jonathanbuckley1174]

The algorithm works out whether the silo needs to be 'safeguarded'!! Reset?

[@malekzin4788]

in adam savage tested channel, adam savage visit the set of silo. in the model of the IT, the room with the orders book is called the "Algorithm room". not sure why you need an algorithm for. Something for next season.

[@MrDlenrek]

Loved this episode. Lots of payoffs

[@XMachete]

I'm pretty sure Knox knows it was Walker. As you covered: He knows how they leveraged the cafeteria lady, using someone she cared about. He knows they have Walker's ex-wife. He also knows Walker got a message, and he knows went up for some repair, and has been staying in her living space ever since coming back. What I'm on the fence about is if he gave her a signal in what he told her. He said it was Teddy's mom. But they both know Teddy's mom and from what we've seen of the character, we haven't seen anything about his mom. I feel like if its a lie Walker would know that what Knox is saying makes no sense. Something Bernard might not know offhand, such as the mom being just as militant, or that Teddy and his mom don't talk, or that she's dead. The problem is that would mean he's sussed out that Walker is being monitored. Otherwise, it has to be that he's telling her something to see if she passes it on to Bernard. That's where I'm at with it, excited to find out.

[@RayR-y6d]

The group of youngsters in the abandoned Silo are professionally going about survival completely wrong, first instinct to kill the only two other people they’ve come in contact that most likely could be some type of resource to them is insane. So far both Jules & solo are seriously injured and hopefully things turn around in th3 episodes to come.😮

[@eds1942]

Really my only complaint with this season was with Sims and the what’s going on with the characters of mechanical and I think that part it has to do with how little focus they received in the books. All of them needed to be more fleshed out for TV, but the story has only just now, most noticeably with this episode, started to give them depth.

[@Neos1heOne]

I wonder if Juliette will bring Solo or Eater with her outside? We'll see, can't wait

[@johnmonk66]

it was an incredibly sweet episode

[@fluffyspunsugar]

I read the series, so I know the answer, but I'm curious how the showrunners will handle Juliette's journey/return to Silo 18, whether they'll follow the book or come up with something else. It's not like she can wave at the sensor and motion for someone to let her in, but the book calls for the end to an era, which makes me sad, and that's all I'll say about that. But I would love for people inside the silo to see her coming over the hill and see their reaction.

[@RJAmes-w1j]

Are there any book reader videos or discussion threads?

[@notgod1431]

So she dies? Damn she never enter her silo 😢

[@Jaseford]

The last episode is called "Into the Fire." Pretty sure they'll stick close to the book based on that.

[@fluffyspunsugar]

@@Jaseford Sounds like it, for sure.

[@fluffyspunsugar]

@@RJAmes-w1j I'm not sure, I've never looked for a discussion on the books.

[@robertholland1664]

The creators planted their magical seed about shallow water, and covered that idea in layers of bullshit about mines and punishment in mines which clearly do not exist in the flooded basement where nobody travels, especially not conscripts and their overseers.

[@ellieb1812]

I have a non-book theory as to why there are 51 Silos. Each Silo represents a state in the US. The people from silo 18 are from Georgia, that’s why there is so many relics mentioning Georgia. The last Silo is the governing Body making 51 Silos in total. It’s a loose theory but one nonetheless 😅

[@MassiveGamingBeast]

Maybe the 51st/ “governing” silo are descendants of DC residents aka politicians. They’d be trusted most to oversee the silo operation

[@brandongonsalves3615]

They are all in georgia though

[@ellieb1812]

@ how do we know? Maybe a catastrophe hit the US or even the world, taking out most of the population, & to preserve certain information, they were able to evacuate certain people through the tunnels to set up a new civilization. Idk, I’m just having fun speculating 😋

[@panjak323]

51 is Greenland

[@clintcristina206]

@@panjak323 gottem!

[@jake_edinburgh]

Can you imagine if they give you no Kyle in the finale?! And save what the safeguard is for season 3.

[@emilys4281]

Any ideas on what the safeguard is?

[@JerryShugars]

Excellent episode. Unfortunately it was the first one of the season.

[@docweidner]

Now, having gotten mostly through the books, I do think Hugh Howie reminds me a bit of a young Asimov. Like Foundation, he builds a larger story in short stories and novellas. He does a nice job with worldbuilding and an intriguing mystery, but some of his character work is a bit flat. I don't want to say much more about the ones I think he does a lot better with for spoiler reasons. But I will say Jimmy and the Party of Five are much better developed in the show than the books, imho. This is true for pretty much everyone in the show so far. This is an adaptation that, imho, improves on the source material. I guess maybe if I read the books first, I might have a different feeling. But the changes I have seen so far are mostly for the better.

[@AndyColee]

Nice episode. My fear is how they will leave us in suspense till after a year for season 3. I hate ongoing series.

[@ScooterDoge]

I knew once he said the water was nothing to worry about you could just stand in it. Pretty obvious.

[@Spaceouts]

Do you think Safeguard was initiated in Solo's silo (silo17)? or presumably nobody found the tunnels under silo 17, so safeguard was not initiated in silo 17. Still do not what the safeguard is, but i am assuming its a kill command.

[@aarxn.k28]

Nanobots, it’s the reason the silos exist at all

[@Hobodeluxe007]

anyone think it would be funny if when Lukas dropped from his rope to the water that the rope would be too short for him to jump up and reach to get out? and yes best episode. big payoff for all those character building scenes this season. things are falling into place for silo 18 events to happen. I think Sims will ambush Bernard on the way to his secret server room and take his key. Camille will get with the deputies ,Billings etc and join up with Knox and Shirl to defend mechanical and maybe even take on Amundsen and the raiders. And Juliette finds the radio in 17 and gets a message to 18 and Walker will hear it on her radio. Or maybe she just shows up in her new suit outside in front of the camera and everyone sees her?

[@1seaque]

I wondered if Bernard's key fob was activated when the Algorithm acknowledged Lukas in the tunnel. Then I thought... there was no indication that Bernard was notified when Meadows went there. Kinda' strange the Mayor wouldn't be notified. Huh?

[@aarxn.k28]

You think eh? lol

[@Dwainegnd]

Finally something actually happens. You could delete like 5 episodes prior and you would not miss anything important

[@PlittHD]

I feel like this entire season should have been 3 episodes. Not a lot happened.

[@andrewc662]

Did anyone find it strange that Kyle didn't shout up to Shirley that he made it to the bottom and didn't die?

[@justinblake355]

She left him. She went back up.

[@andrewc662]

Seems weird she would just leave him there. If he was willing to risk his life, it must be pretty important.