SILVER from silver chloride - lye and sugar method

[@RingMasterRay]

Adding all that sugar makes for some sweet silver!

[@tomspeed2000]

Possible to use KOH?

[@OwlTech333]

yes

[@S13402]

If gold and silver were precipitated together, and I want them to be together,,, is it ok to use lye-sugar method while gold is still there?

[@OwlTech333]

What do you mean?

[@S13402]

@@OwlTech333 gold and silver sometimes precipitate together from certain ores,, both will precipitate as gold chloride and silver chloride … together … now,, adding lye then sugar will bring the silver chloride to become metallic,, what about gold chloride? Will gold chloride behaves the same way as silver chloride? (Both are mixed as a chloride precipitate)

[@OwlTech333]

@@S13402 when you add the lye gold should precipitate as gold hydroxide with would be reduced to metallic gold by the sugar

[@raymondreyes8046]

When did u use sugar

[@OwlTech333]

@ 6:50

[@raymondreyes8046]

@@OwlTech333 I could use some help getting this silver chloride out of my waste from aqua regia. I processed ceramic cpus and there is now silver chloride that I want to get. But have to make it change into oxide. What's my first step.?

[@OwlTech333]

@@raymondreyes8046 washing

[@raymondreyes8046]

@@OwlTech333 with what? I let the breaker sit and it looks like it separates from the HCL. Do I wash it with water? It's quite liquid.

[@OwlTech333]

Yes with boiling water as in the video, add boiling water, let it setlle and then decant 5-10 times

[@barryellis4718]

Your the man...

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you!

[@adamrocky6988]

Hello my friend, I need to know, when cleaning silver chloride, do you add bleach to it and start adding caustic soda and then sugar?

[@OwlTech333]

When I'm cleaning the silver chloride I'm not adding bleach, just plain water

[@adamrocky6988]

@@OwlTech333if you used water your silver chloride was very clean, can you do this process with silver chloride containing (AgBr) (AgCl) (AgI) all mixed together and separate them and extract the metal?

[@OwlTech333]

@@adamrocky6988 it was not clean, I washed it clean with boiling water

[@llorentebalane2685]

What is more efficient? This method or cementing silver using copper? Thanks sir

[@OwlTech333]

Llorente Balane copper

[@OwlTech333]

@doyrtwq 4Ns with copper most of the times

[@OwlTech333]

@doyrtwq yes

[@OwlTech333]

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[@merdaslian9606]

Very very good👍👏

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you!

[@jamesscott236]

Could same be possible with AgCN?

[@Andrey-ke6ln]

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[@GeoffBosco]

Will KOH work as well?

[@OwlTech333]

yes

[@sultanahmed1316]

Hello sir, i have a urge to ask a reaction about silver and tin can reply me soon ? Please

[@OwlTech333]

@@sultanahmed1316 didn’t get your question?

[@sultanahmed1316]

@@OwlTech333 ya hello sir, i jst wanna ask u the of separating silver fron tin , the containing 3% AG and rest of the tin , i want to seperate both and recover both

[@sultanahmed1316]

@@OwlTech333 it will be kind of you if guide me on this

[@sultanahmed1316]

@@OwlTech333 please help me sir

[@OwlTech333]

@@sultanahmed1316 can’t think of an economical way of doing it

[@chethanchethan4110]

without cleaning lye and sugar silver nitrate doesnot melt or not.

[@OwlTech333]

Not without losses IMHO

[@bedadiabderrezzak1488]

What's the role of sugar here?

[@OwlTech333]

Reduces silver oxide / hydroxide to silver metal

[@bedadiabderrezzak1488]

@@OwlTech333 what are the exacte mesures of lye and sugar for 100 gr silver chloride?

[@OwlTech333]

​@@bedadiabderrezzak1488 I don't go by exact measures, instead I'm adding NaOH in small increments until all white AgCl turns to black /brown silver oxide/hydroxide (there shouldn't be any white spots visible in the beaker) then I'm adding sugar until the brown/black mud becomes grey silver metal

[@riverboat28]

Thank you for the videos! Very helpful

[@corveramoenglish7275]

The sugar is the source of carbon for the conversion from oxide to metal. Essentially sugar is a long chain of carbon and hydrogen. Hydrogen will steal oxygen to form water and the carbon will steal a little as well to form carbon dioxide. Any unreacted carbon will clump to make carbon particles.

[@surajsagar9063]

Can silver chloride directly be melted and converted into metalic silver

[@OwlTech333]

suraj sagar yes but you'll need to add base like caustic soda or soda ash otherwise there will be huge losses

[@surajsagar9063]

@@OwlTech333 ok can u b specific for 1kg of ailver chloride how much and whatt all materials should be mixed

[@OwlTech333]

suraj sagar about the same amount NaOH should be sufficient

[@surajsagar9063]

@@OwlTech333 naoh mahi sir chloride ko direct melt karne k liye konsi cheez kitna mix karni hai

[@kbilqnov]

Привет знае ли се каква е чистотата на среброто

[@OwlTech333]

99.99

[@salihakdag6371]

👍👍

[@jjprospector9170]

Hey I tryed put my silver into aqua regia an it had bunch it didn't melt so that wat left over is it still got silver in it I tryed taking put copper in it but didn't work so how can I get my silver out slotuion it lock up in it

[@raymondreyes8046]

Ok so I have this waste from my purple ceramic CPUs, and I was told it held silver chloride. Or was it oxcide? I need help with the process.

[@raymondreyes8046]

It's chloride and so do I pour off the extra liquid ( HCl+nitric) was used to get gold disolved and precipitated and then extracted. So now I have this chloride. What do I do?

[@OwlTech333]

wash it

[@ASinterior1]

Which chemical is used in x-ray films recovery process ???

[@OwlTech333]

bleach?

[@زكرياادريس-ي5ر]

Is this way you get a pure silver? Are there other ways to convert silver chloride into puer silver?

[@OwlTech333]

زكريا ادريس yes there are other ways

[@زكرياادريس-ي5ر]

@@OwlTech333 How do I make sure that silver chloride is completely transformed into pure silver؟

[@زكرياادريس-ي5ر]

@@OwlTech333 But after adding the sugar, no violent reaction occurred, and the silver oxide did not convert into pure silver. What errors can he commit that lead to the failure of the process of sugar interaction with silver؟

[@OwlTech333]

زكريا ادريس it changes colour from black/brown to gray

[@OwlTech333]

زكريا ادريس there shouldn't be any white spots

[@merdaslian9606]

How much sugar should I use for a kilogram of silver chloride?

[@OwlTech333]

1kg

[@merdaslian9606]

@@OwlTech333 With zinc and 10% hydrochloric acid we convert 95% silver chloride to silver metal and then melt.

[@jagadeeshmp1992]

@@merdaslian9606 How? pls can you explain

[@bedadiabderrezzak1488]

In the end of process. 330g became 235g what is the problem? I did this at home

[@EddieTheH]

What problem? You started with silver chloride and then removed the chlorine, it's not gonna be the same mass when you remove a quarter of it.

[@johnslugger]

What a mess. Next time just add equal parts AgCl to Wheat Flour and 20% borax and 1 oz. lead metal as low temp. collector and smelt at 2000 F. for 60 minutes pour into cone mold, remove bead from bottom of slag and cupel away lead. PURE SILVER BEAD.

[@jekidodiya5792]

Can I fully recovered silver by this method. Means 75.5 gm silver from 100 gm silver chloride??

[@OwlTech333]

yup

[@jekidodiya5792]

@@OwlTech333 thanks for reply

[@زكرياادريس-ي5ر]

I added sodium hydroxide, turning the color of silver chloride into brown, and then I added sugar, it turned gray, collected silver and rinsed it with water. After this, I added it to 100 grams and cast it, and the alloy became 80 grams. Is this natural deficiency, is there a problem?

[@kalarefinery]

How to Recover Pure Silver From AgSCN

[@OwlTech333]

Zn?

[@krisau24k3]

Hello, when I added naoh to agCL and then sugar it doesn’t boiling after adding sugar it is normal?

[@OwlTech333]

yes

[@زكرياادريس-ي5ر]

I added sodium hydroxide, turning the color of silver chloride into brown, and then I added sugar, it turned gray, collected silver and rinsed it with water. After this, I added it to 100 grams and cast it, and the alloy became 80 grams. Is this natural deficiency, is there a problem?

[@OwlTech333]

how did you melt it? did you use flux? soda ash or sodium hydroxide should be use when melting silver from silver chloride, in fact I've had successful melts of silver chloride with sodium hydroxide, without the sugar conversion

[@زكرياادريس-ي5ر]

@@OwlTech333 I added sodium hydroxide and sugar after turning it gray, as I said before, I dried the silver and put it in the oven and cast it without adding in the casting 100 produced 80

[@زكرياادريس-ي5ر]

@@OwlTech333 Just like the one you had in your video at 12:21. After that I cast and found that I lost 20 percent

[@OwlTech333]

@@زكرياادريس-ي5ر maybe it was not completely dry

[@RSoni-rv5ip]

Sir please help me

[@RSoni-rv5ip]

sir I had 10 kg of silver chloride. I added 4 kg of lye after that have added more then 4 kg of sugar but silver cement is not being done.

[@OwlTech333]

What do you mean not done?

[@RSoni-rv5ip]

@@OwlTech333 when I melted the remaining powder there is no rigidity in melted crystal and when I beat the crystal by hammer it spreader like a stone.

[@OwlTech333]

@@RSoni-rv5ip how do you know you had silver chloride?

[@RSoni-rv5ip]

@@OwlTech333 I made silver nitrate and added nacl to the silver nitrate solution.

[@MyGrafen]

silver chloride has higher solubility in hot water and lower solubility in cold water. Why do you flush silver chloride with hot water instead cold? you dissolve more silver to the water , which is then going to waste , I understand that you want to remove blue color, which is copper (copper chloride) but copper chloride has very high solubility in both cold and hot water, which means it can be removed with cold water.

[@OwlTech333]

To remove lead

[@riverboat28]

First run and I swear this silver chloride is f..king dirty as hell. OCD