Thank you for the very clear explanation - not just showing what each step involves, but also telling us why each one is needed. And the finished job is superb!
@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@EspressoBear5924 күн бұрын
You inspired me to brush plate wear on the valve block of my silver trumpet, as well to tank plate the valves on my antique conn. They were copper plated and i plated the first valve and then spent quite a bit of time lapping. Used a combination of lapping block and 2000 gr sand paper. Had some trouble as the valve guide is attached to the top of the valve. Almost done
@timyllym24 күн бұрын
Great to hear! Removing the valve guide will help lapping, it would need to be either soldered off or then filed down. When plating is finished a new valve guide is then created and soldered back on. It will take some extra time though.
@davewettlaufer78855 ай бұрын
thank you for the video, I always wondered how that was done.👍
@timyllym5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@toddsayers35833 жыл бұрын
I attempted to watch a few other videos before this one. Scant on details, this is an excellent overview of the process. Should I decide to attempt this, I expect that the voltage/amperage will depend on the products I'm using. Thanks for the concise, excellent video.
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
Thank You! And that's right, you can get info on voltage/amperage from the liquids/equipment manufacturers.
@AMusicStoreOnMainSt Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your video. It explained a lot. I have a Silver Getzen Capri with a leaky third valve. It's a beautiful trumpet except for the leak. My next step is to find out the cost of plating one valve.
@timyllym Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Tribilante3 ай бұрын
excellent
@lois2911Ай бұрын
Thank you, sir.
@aliashtiani82462 жыл бұрын
please upload more often, great channel.
@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Cuprum46 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thank you Timo
@osmildmay2 жыл бұрын
Simple And Easy To Comprehend Thank You
@isawproductions6 ай бұрын
This video is very informative. Thanks for making this. What is in the acid dip? what chemicals or solution is in it? What chemical do you use for silver plating?
@timyllym6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I have used chemicals from Gateros and Tifoo, but you can get similiar products from any company selling electroplating stuff. www.gaterosplating.co.uk/product-page/gp-jewellery-pickle-salts www.tifoo.de/en/silver-plating-solution-250-ml
@martiensbekker3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@dunk8562 ай бұрын
Nice
@mikoajdurka26233 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a great video! I've got one question regarding brush plating. For how long you're brushing one spot to be sure that you've got enough thick layer of the plating?
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It depends on few variables like the size of the area and the layer thickness. For brass instruments I'd say the thickness would have to be at least 10 microns to have durability. There are calculators for this e.g. www.goldn.co.uk/brush-plating-calculator/
@williambrown3553 жыл бұрын
Excellent very clear explanation. Thank you so much
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stevenadvensky1761 Жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@timyllym Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@billr3654 Жыл бұрын
Great videos! When you do tank plating, how do you know how long to keep the item in the tank? Does so many minutes equal a certain amount of plating thickness? When you are brush plating, do you have to stop at certain design line on the trumpet? What I mean is, does the new plating blend in well with the old plating, or can tell tell where you plated and where you didn't? Thanks!
@timyllym Жыл бұрын
Thanks! There are calculators in web for counting the needed time, e.g. www.goldn.co.uk/brush-plating-calculator/ but for brush plating it is more difficult to count the time. Brush plating blends in quite nicely, it is more about how well you have made the buffing and cleaning, so how shiny the surface is, so you don't need to cut it to certain point. But edge may be still visible if you look carefully.
@pablomontagna25023 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you
@sneaks012 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!!
@hepburn118 Жыл бұрын
Hi, could you do a video running through the chemicals you use? I'm interested to know what you use in the bath method and the electrode rubbing on method. Thanks.
@timyllym Жыл бұрын
Hi, yes, that might be a good idea. You can get the chemicals e.g. from www.goldn.co.uk/ or www.tifoo.de/en-uk/en
@hepburn118 Жыл бұрын
@@timyllym Well, I would sure be interested in watching and I'll take a bet I'm not alone there!!
@hepburn118 Жыл бұрын
@@timyllym And thanks for the information.
@JonathanMilam13 жыл бұрын
Great video, Timo. Very well done; thank you! :)
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan! I have also been enjoying your videos.
@BobBeverage2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Doesn't the mouthpiece immersion-plate to some extent when you put it in the silver plating solution without the power on? That could reduce the adhesion of the electroplate.
@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I'm not so specialised in electro-plating that I could say. But I haven't had any adhesion problems.
@vicentejacuinde94842 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Well done 👍 where can I get this tanks for silver or niquel plating? Thank you!
@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! There are several places where you can buy the liquids and equipment. Just search for 'silver plating solution' from google. e.g. www.tifoo.de/en-uk/applications/metal/silver caswellplating.com/silver-brush-plating-solution-1-pint.html www.goldn.co.uk/how-to/silver-plating-copper/ www.riogrande.com/product/midas-silver-pen-plating-solution-non-cyanide/335167
@vicentejacuinde94842 жыл бұрын
@@timyllym thank you so much and keep making more videos that are very helpful 🙏
@jyune12092 жыл бұрын
I love your video! Thank you. What model rectifier are you using?
@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I use basic Eventek Laboratory Power Supply 0-30V which I bought from Amazon.
@jyune12092 жыл бұрын
@@timyllym May I ask how you made the pen/wand?
@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
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@Tuca-Luthier. Жыл бұрын
@@timyllymGood afternoon, I have a source of this model of yours, its regulation for this bath by contact do you change the voltage and aperage or just the voltage?
@pharmix78223 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Mr. Timo, can we use this method to silver plate a bracelet that is made of stainless steel? One more question if you don't mind: can we repeat the process more than once to add up more silver layers.
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
Hello, you can silver plate stainless steel but it may not attach well. It would be better to first plate the stainless steel with nickel and then with silver. Nickel will attach well to stainless steel and silver over nickel. You can repeat the process to add more layers.
@pharmix78223 жыл бұрын
@@timyllym that's impressing. thanks a lot for enlightening
@paulgrimm2 жыл бұрын
Old horns were built better. I have a aGerman Acme Custom Trumpet built in 1953. It still looks new
@wisan284 жыл бұрын
Love your video
@timyllym4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johnfricker32294 жыл бұрын
Time - Well Done!
@timyllym4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@Lucia-kk4kn4 жыл бұрын
Good Job, nice and clean!!! just a question,: the silver electrolite uses a silver anode or a stainless steel one?? thanks in advance!
@timyllym4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Silver anode is used with silver electrolyte.
@Hakan_Derin3 жыл бұрын
Hello thank you for the video. How did you teardown the valve case part of trumpet from pipes? Thank you.
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The tubes are soldered on to the valve casing so they need to be de-soldered with e.g. hand gas burner. You can do brush plating easily also without un-soldering anything.
@johnfricker32293 жыл бұрын
Hello Timo - What voltage do you apply when you do the alkaline electro cleaning?
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I found quite different voltages in different instructions. I used 10 volts while some instructions said 6-8 volts. I haven't experimented what difference it makes.
@juliovelez44963 жыл бұрын
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@jwstaddo3 жыл бұрын
Are there particular silver plating solutions that are specifically "safe/non-toxic" for mouthpieces? Or are all of them safe?
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
I think probably all plating solutions are toxic as such, but once the plating is done and surface is cleaned then there is only silver left, and that's safe.
@junreycoyoca9564 Жыл бұрын
What is the solution you use for silver plating sir?
@timyllym Жыл бұрын
www.tifoo.de/en-uk/silver-plating-solution
@scotta94311 ай бұрын
Will the plating fill in light pitting ? I am doing a gold trumpet making it silver
@timyllym11 ай бұрын
Plating won't fill pitting. You have to sand down the surface first to remove pitting. Also buffing and polishing must be done before plating.
@pop-tp5hf2 жыл бұрын
Hii sir i want to ask if this process make any affect on the tune of instrument !
@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
No, the amount of the actual plating is so small that it doesn't affect the acoustical features of the horn.
@kevinngo91383 жыл бұрын
does the silver plate generally last long?
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
That depends on the thickness of silver layer and the amount of usage. Old instruments (say e.g. from 1950's) can have a layer of 50 microns while current instruments can have as little as 5 microns. There are exceptions of course.
@eriktan47553 жыл бұрын
hi, i'm from singapore and i would like to replate my whole Bb trumpet. would you be able to help?
@timyllym3 жыл бұрын
Hi, best results would be with tank plating, but you'd need a really big tank of silver electrolyte, which will cost a lot. So I would recommend using brush plating, unless you can find some local company from your area which is doing silver plating. There are many places on internet that are selling silver plating supplies, I listed some of them earlier in this thread. Biggest job is to get that old surface shiny again. Silver plating won't make the surface shiny, it has to be shiny before you do silver plating.
@TheQuijote764 жыл бұрын
Hi, I will be doing a mechanical overhaul to my Conn alto sax. I need to fix some worn hinge tubes. Do I have to silver plate the new hinge tube before cutting small pieces of it?
@timyllym4 жыл бұрын
Hi, saxophone hinge tubes are made of steel, you don't need to silver plate them.
@TheQuijote764 жыл бұрын
@@timyllym Thanks for your response! I meant the hollowed tubing for each key.
@timyllym4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I misunderstood, you were talking about tubes, not rods. I think you can silver plate the parts before of after cutting. Maybe it would be easier to silver plate the tube before cutting it smaller.
@Lucia-kk4kn4 жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot about silver plating in the last month or so! First do all the mechanical work, ( tube PERFECTLY straight and EXACT length),then you can silver plating and make slight adjustments
@timyllym4 жыл бұрын
That's great!
@bluejack220024 жыл бұрын
Hi, I need more info to do it in my country. Where can I contact you ?
@timyllym4 жыл бұрын
Hi, there are several places where you can buy these tools and liquids. Just search for 'silver plating solution' from google. e.g. www.tifoo.de/en-uk/applications/metal/silver caswellplating.com/silver-brush-plating-solution-1-pint.html www.goldn.co.uk/how-to/silver-plating-copper/ www.riogrande.com/product/midas-silver-pen-plating-solution-non-cyanide/335167
@wisan284 жыл бұрын
Where can i get of these equipment?
@timyllym4 жыл бұрын
There are several places which are selling silver plating supplies. I bought most of my equipment and liquids from Tifoo (www.tifoo-plating.com). I made the plating brush myself, but Tifoo and other places also sell those. Note that it can be also called pen plating or wand plating but it is the same thing as brush plating.
@raresboghean29744 ай бұрын
Ho can you brass plate a silver ring ?
@timyllym4 ай бұрын
Hi, you can't electroplate with brass because it's an alloy. You can only plate with pure metals.
@raresboghean29744 ай бұрын
@@timyllym The Ai said that the electrolite solution need to be a half mix of cupper and zinc sulfate
@طالبعباس-ق3ع2 жыл бұрын
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@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
Pardon me, I don't understand
@طالبعباس-ق3ع2 жыл бұрын
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@طالبعباس-ق3ع2 жыл бұрын
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@timyllym2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't completely understand, but if you are looking for plating solutions, there are several places where you can buy the liquids and equipment. Just search for 'silver plating solution' from google. e.g. www.tifoo.de/en-uk/applications/metal/silver caswellplating.com/silver-brush-plating-solution-1-pint.html www.goldn.co.uk/how-to/silver-plating-copper/ www.riogrande.com/product/midas-silver-pen-plating-solution-non-cyanide/335167