March of the Machine is a Massive Disappointment - A Review

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@silvermyr
@silvermyr Жыл бұрын
Did the set disappoint you? What was the worst thing about it? Or the best if you're feeling positive
@EntheogenShaman
@EntheogenShaman Жыл бұрын
Phyrexia just look like a bunch of idiots, Yawgmoth would be ashamed.
@Syngraphaeor
@Syngraphaeor Жыл бұрын
Card-wise? I loved it, it was super cool! Story-wise...? Yeah, I don't know. It would've been cool if they made March a "here's the bad guys taking over and seeming to win!" but then having Aftermath be more of like a "oh look, now all the good guys are coming in and they're gonna defeat the bad guys!" As in, having things be like a narrative 50/50... Also, spoiling the story before the set released is a questionable move for sure, it definitely sort of sucked :(
@charlesward9963
@charlesward9963 Жыл бұрын
i mean it just feels like either jace or nahiri are gonna "reawaken" the oil since theyre still compleated. especially since jace got his little "mystery job" from Norn which makes me think he will just be the next big bad phyrexian. also im sad that the praetors are dead, would have loved to see what some of them would do without the rule of Norn (aka. Sheoldred not being supressed by norn, aaand also gitaxis and what he couldve done without Norn around). It wouldve made so much more sense to just kill off or remove norn and let the other praetors to their own thing for a little while since none of the others seem "invadey".
@laurentiuvladutmanea3622
@laurentiuvladutmanea3622 Жыл бұрын
Well, I kind of expected it to not be that good. My problems with it were mostly the same as yours. We simply did not get to see enough of it. For my favorite things, I actually liked the more details on the minor Planes. I really hope we see planes dealing with Azgol, Belenon, Karsus, Moag, Muraganda, Pyurea, and Xerex
@idigamstudios7463
@idigamstudios7463 Жыл бұрын
Gods yes, the cards were fun, went five and oh by pulling Grand Cenobite and new Sheoldred in one pack but the story put a malaise even on that (which WotC compounded by being the worst fucking company. Also confusing when you say 'old phyrexian cards' because I was thinking cards like Hollow Dogs and Phyrexian Dreadnought.
@anthonyrodriguez9232
@anthonyrodriguez9232 Жыл бұрын
For me the biggest let down is just how they did all the praetors dirty. Vorinclex, a monster that is constantly shown to be a pinnacle of evolution, that survived the blind eternities with NO spark, just dies to his head getting cut off. Jin, probably the smartest phyrexian, just gets pushed into a vat of newts and gets eaten alive. Sheoldred literally got to do nothing even though she is a walking apocalypse. Elesh Norn felt like she got character assassinated because everything up to this set was constantly her saying its for her people and she never mentioned only herself and now suddenly its all about her? Atraxa, born of 4 praetors and could be one of the greatest phyrexians ever, gets killed by construction. It sucks man.
@robertreed7767
@robertreed7767 Жыл бұрын
The "Destroy the Mother Ship" trope was soooooo disappointing. A drop of oil accidentally smeared on a plane is what started all this, and now there are hordes of oil filled bodies just left sitting around - but don't worry! No mother ship!
@ROMANTIKILLER2
@ROMANTIKILLER2 Жыл бұрын
I guss someone at WotC watched season 8 of Game of Thrones and were the only ones apar the showrunners to have thought it was narrative brilliancy.
@vincentpey3929
@vincentpey3929 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing is that new phyrexia was never established to work like that... its such an annoying asspull solution to a problem that should have been handled more carefully and with a more complex sollution.
@mymarshlands
@mymarshlands Жыл бұрын
it would have been way more interesting if they pulled up something that changed the nature of the phyrexian oil itself, like some reality-shifting alchemy that changes the oil into something harmless
@ThePhantomTomo
@ThePhantomTomo 20 сағат бұрын
@@vincentpey3929 It's a complete contradiction of the story they built as well. Elesh Norn making her own forces act like that is one thing, but the armies under the other 4 praetors never would have worked that way.
@D-Skotes
@D-Skotes Жыл бұрын
I like the thought that "Krenko" is a different Goblin every time and just claims to be Krenko but the other Goblins are too dumb to see the difference.
@WendigoNet
@WendigoNet Жыл бұрын
See, I thought that Mob Boss and Kingpin look similar but the reprint art is absolutely some random goblin lol
@Frommerman
@Frommerman Жыл бұрын
Or that they know, but are smart enough to recognize they can use the racist stereotypes against their people to their advantage when idiots bluster on about how goblins are too dumb to recognize a different guy as different while they sneak around back and steal all their stuff.
@ninjZ666
@ninjZ666 Жыл бұрын
There could also be something to a caricature of a historically marginalized group that tends to be duplicated with large noses and act greedy. Like I’m all for my fantasy races but not every artist is cool with it if they know enough history.
@balakkei
@balakkei Жыл бұрын
The Dread Pirate Krenko
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai Жыл бұрын
It's simple.. cards have always been representations of things and characters from stories being told. Not drawn by people that actually saw them happen, but did so years after.
@learntoplaymagic5202
@learntoplaymagic5202 Жыл бұрын
This would have made for an awesome 3 set block set. Phyrexia prepares in All Will Be One. Phyrexia gets to the precipice of winning in March of the Machine. Phyrexia is defeated in Rise of the Angels(?) Or wins in Triumph of Norn(?) WOTC did not give themselves time to tell the story they wanted to tell, and an end of set cliff hanger would have been awesome
@The_Murder_Party
@The_Murder_Party Жыл бұрын
~~or both~~ could have told "Norn's Triumph" as a handful of planes they *won* on, then RotA they don't
@learntoplaymagic5202
@learntoplaymagic5202 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Murder_Party I thought it would be cool if they did like with the Scars block and teased both until spoiler season started
@The_Murder_Party
@The_Murder_Party Жыл бұрын
@@learntoplaymagic5202 nah, I got that, *but* as with his closing remarks "the phyrexian invasion of every plane feels like a big enough deal to do an entire set around" the story needed *way* more time.
@gaebril131
@gaebril131 Жыл бұрын
There *is* a third set in the block - Dominaria United. An entire large set of setup wasted because it turns out all those sleeper agents on Dominaria had absolutely no relevance to the world tree invasion plot.
@learntoplaymagic5202
@learntoplaymagic5202 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Murder_Party True, it really did
@zacharyackman677
@zacharyackman677 Жыл бұрын
I'm really upset that Phyrexia is just gone. I really liked them in their original incarnations as horrifying antagonists and thought the modern twist with each faction being influenced by their respective color of mana was even better. The idea of each faction striving for perfection in a different way was so interesting and I feel like we never got to see it. I know that the Phyrexian invasion of everything was doomed to fail, but I feel like it could have been the setup to something far more meaningful. Sitting in my armchair I would have liked to have seen the invasion beaten back, Elesh Norn killed and the white faction destroyed, but the other factions succeeding in taking over a new world each. Then we could still have Phyrexia as an antagonist in the future, but they could operate in radically different ways with the Vicious Swarm occasionally launching a horde of monsters at another plane, or learning that the black Phyrexians are behind some intrigue somewhere. Actually, it would have been cool to see the Vicious Swarm stuck on Ikoria and suddenly finding themselves on the bottom of the food chain. Wizards could have written a cool story rehabilitating them with them concluding that predation is not the be-all-end-all to evolution, and instead changing to establish some kind of symbiosis with others. It's just sad to see so many cool ideas and characters come to an end and not feeling like we ever got to see their story fully play out.
@growthought8670
@growthought8670 Жыл бұрын
This exactly. The story possibilities were endless. And now the story is lost. At base, I would have loved the Phyrexians to simply not have been completely defeated. There are infinite planes or whatever. Surely some of their invasions might find a corner of success and survival?
@adameschete9165
@adameschete9165 Жыл бұрын
Interesting ideas, you should apply for a lore position at WoTC so we can get better stories!
@ArixOdragc
@ArixOdragc Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. The different factions of a villain whose express purpose is "ultimate unity" having different ideas on what that meant and the infighting it could cause was one of the most interesting things about New Phyrexia. The fact that the next time we see them, that's done away with and they just become Generic Evil Army #12,728 was such a shameful waste. I know, Magic story wastes some cool potential, more news at 11.
@thrillhouse4151
@thrillhouse4151 Жыл бұрын
I kinda hated how they had all those factions, doesn’t scream “All Will be One” at all.
@TieberiusVoidWalker
@TieberiusVoidWalker 11 ай бұрын
A plane ruled by Urabrask would be so cool to see. It could be an unironically peaceful phyrexian world that spends its time following the true vision of phyrexia.
@avonthes
@avonthes Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the new Sheoldred art! She's actually attached to Drivnod, Carnage Dominus' eye socket, as if she's riding him into battle!
@silvermyr
@silvermyr Жыл бұрын
Ooh good spot!
@aqure9
@aqure9 Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm looking at! Makes sense
@mcswaggerduff8946
@mcswaggerduff8946 Жыл бұрын
Sadly we know this didn't happen since she died in the first 3 seconds of the MOM story proper. The card will forever be a "what if"
@The5lacker
@The5lacker Жыл бұрын
Probably the strangest part of the set is: I have *absolutely* no idea how long the events of the story are supposed to be. The fact that it's, you know, an invasion, with all the symbols popping up and being ominous implies it takes place over the course of, like, weeks to months. But if you told me the events of the story articles from the start of All will be One to the end of March of the Machine took place over anything more than 48 hours, I'd call you a liar. There's simply no way. Nahiri gets hit when they first arrive and holds together until they smash through the floor, so that couldn't have taken much more than a few hours, and it's a sprint down to the seedcore from there. And then Realmbreaker does its thing, the compleated walkers leave, the last of the squad escapes their imprisonment (that should be impossible for at least one, possibly two of them), but they all need to, you know, eat and drink, so that can't have been any sort of prolonged stay. And then Chandra and Wrenn show up and get into a fight, and *that* can't have been longer than, like, half an hour. So you add all these things together and you have two sets that take place over, at the absolute most, two days, with no time between them, and that's... enough time for an inter-planar invasion with people developing strategies and feeling the prolonged effects of war? This is like how War of the Spark took place over the span of a single night. It's ridiculous.
@askani21
@askani21 Жыл бұрын
Getting to Mirrodin's core takes weeks in the old stories, the insides of the planet is a gigantic maze (even though the planet is minuscule lol). Well it was, before Phyrexia. So now that's it's been transformed into 9 hells I can only assume it takes longer to traverse. The first planeswalker group to go to Phyrexia were also lost at arrival, scattered throughout the planet. Then they're captured, and we don't how much time passes by before the survivors escape. After that they return to Dominaria, and the next day Chandra goes to Mirrodin, so we can assume another couple of weeks pass by while Chandra and Wrenn travel the Blind Eternities then get through the entire planet of Mirrodin, while hiding from Phyrexians. We also see Tezzeret 5 weeks after the start of the invasion, as he awoke with his new body, jumping from plane to plane seeing Phyrexians massacre everyone everywhere he goes. Teferi also spends many weeks on Zhalfir while the invasion is underway. So the invasion lasted at least more than a month, probably two. But I agree, the passage of time wasn't clear and it felt much, much too fast.
@shadowseek27
@shadowseek27 Жыл бұрын
​@@askani21 apparently zhalfir was in a time space bubble or something so a few weeks for them was a pretty short time for the rest multiverse (apparently only 10 years had passed since they were even phased out), but 100% agree on everything else
@askani21
@askani21 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowseek27 Haha yes that was an inconsistency, but it's the other way around! In Zhalfir only passed 10 years since the old Phyrexian invasion 400 years ago. Which means time passes 40x more slowly in Zhalfir. If Teferi spent weeks in Zhalfir, years should have passed in the rest of the multiverse. So either the invasion lasted for years, either phase time is unreliable loll. (Or Teferi meddled with time again lolll)
@The5lacker
@The5lacker Жыл бұрын
​@@askani21 Counterpoint: Phyresis is shown to take hold in a matter of *hours* and Nahiri gets six layers down before her sacrifice. The journey from the surface to the Seedcore couldn't have taken more than a single day. There's no mention of food, water, or rest, and the only reason Nahiri didn't take up Melira's offer of curing was because it'd take her out of the fight for a few days, by which point the fight would've been over, one way or another.
@manethisthabesticouldthink1289
@manethisthabesticouldthink1289 Жыл бұрын
Big long paragraph
@boanoah6362
@boanoah6362 Жыл бұрын
So... like... was there any point to All Will Be One? From what I remember that entire plotline was the Gatewatch fucking with New Phyrexia and getting their asses stomped in but aside from that what was the point? Did any of it matter beyond Elspeth killing herself? It really feels like Elesh Norn went from a serious multiversal threat to... a complete joke in basically 24 hours. Her giant big brained scheme works, manipulating all of New Phyrexia to her bidding and in the process spreading her reach to innumerable worlds, cementing phyrexians as a presence nearly everywhere. Then it almost literally immediately goes to shit and the entire phyrexian hierarchy falls apart to nonsensical infighting before Elspeth returns as an angel and 1-shots Elesh Norn. Somewhere while that's happening a half-dead dryad is thrown at the tree and somehow merges with it without being immediately infected by the oil and somehow swaps New Phyrexia out of the multiverse and all the phyrexians die. Why bother? Totally deflated my sails since phyrexians and New Phyrexia in particular were my favorite parts of MTG lore and the writers took what has been a growing story for more than a decade and slammed it all in the trash... Like, literally, the story of Glissa and Slowbad delving into the core of Mirrodin to take down Memnarch was my introduction to MTG and a really good book I really enjoyed, then the fall of Mirrodin and the phyrexianization of an entire plane. It was so cool and reading the lore as the Praetors battled amongst themselves before Elesh Norn took control, the scheming of Sheoldred and the lurking savior of Urabrask... heck even how Vorinclex was a figurehead for compleated Glissa was badass. And this is the end... this is the literal actual death of my interest in the fandom and worlds. It feels so hollow.
@papanurgle8393
@papanurgle8393 Жыл бұрын
Nope! It was a completely pointless waste of time, and given the highlights of the conflict, it seems that Phyrexia was never actually a threat to begin with. The chef's kiss for me personally was seeing Vorinclex, phyrexia's apex predator, dying to a literal who as Jin Gitaxias, the plane's smartest mind, decided that the best time to launch a coup was while they were getting overrun by Zhalfirans. WOTC straight up took it's *best* antagonists and ran them into the ground; absolutely tragic.
@boanoah6362
@boanoah6362 Жыл бұрын
@@papanurgle8393 worse yet is that Jin-Gitaxias arguably knows exactly how the oil works and that Eleh Norn is directly tied to it's functionality. He not only chooses the worst time for a coup but he does so with the direct aim to destroy the one person absolutely necessary to his own plans. Smartest Phyrexian in the actual multiverse and he commits actual braindead suicide for literally no reason ensuring the death of his own species. He'd have been better off drugging her and hauling her ass back to New Phyrexia in a planeswalker proofed safety bunker so at the very least he could continue his work in peace. That also would've been a pretty cool way to imply the Phyrexians are cut off from the multiverse but COULD make a return when the heat blows over or something. But nah, can't have cool interesting things happen, it's time for the droid army to fall apart because 6 Jedi showed up I guess...
@orzhov12
@orzhov12 Жыл бұрын
If there was ever a time where WOTC needed to do a 3 set block, this was it. Set 1 could have been about the Phyrexians launching the multiversal invasion. Set 2 could show the Phyrexians gaining the upper hand and we see beloved characters completed. Set 3 is were worlds have adapted to the Phyrexians, are now pushing them back, and we get the finale on New Pyrexia that we get in March of the Machine. Such a missed opportunity. 😞
@Dyldog79
@Dyldog79 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, so much was said to have happened in the set but nothing is shown. The gods of theros being compleated, the cosmos beings are all compleated, shandalar and no slivers? And we touch every plane but get no returning mechanics from said planes.
@kurtmooreca
@kurtmooreca Жыл бұрын
Yes it really makes Dominaria United feel out of place. It or Brothers War anyway. Certainly seems bad to have an invasion of the Multiverse, but the biggest threat to the Multiverse resolved within the same set.
@indigo1296
@indigo1296 Жыл бұрын
Brothers war definitely felt unnecessary, the plot that made the set happen was so contrived it's like they were trying to force a time travel plot for no reason. Would've loved if its slot was given to the phyrexian invasion instead.
@kurtmooreca
@kurtmooreca Жыл бұрын
@@indigo1296 Isn't that how they got the knowledge of the Sylex they didn't even use, and? Like legit the only thing that happened in Brothers War relevant to today? (I liked the set because it was a huge throwback to Cards/lore I grew up on, but narratively its kind of out of place)
@indigo1296
@indigo1296 Жыл бұрын
@@kurtmooreca Yeah, they did it to retrieve information about the sylex that was destroyed during DMU. Had the sylex not been destroyed, they could easily have had Saheeli reverse engineer the method used to activate the sylex, and connected the story to ONE without much issue.
@SuperPal-tr3go
@SuperPal-tr3go Жыл бұрын
Wrenn just going... "Yeah I can control Realmbreaker" just kind of broke my brain since I'm like "Why the fuck didn't you mention that before everyone decided to go with the nuke plan?" The fact that she succeeded is also kind of wild given what happened when Lukka tried to commune with Phyxian shit.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
Kill two contrivances with one stone: plot cul-de-sac with the Sylex blast just fizzling out into the Eternities? Have Wrenn not actually be strong enough to overtake Realmbreaker, but manage to reach out to the explosion and channel it into herself (more backstory with the internal fire? help from Chandra?), and THAT manages to burn out the Invasion Tree, but costing herself in the process.
@l0u13__3
@l0u13__3 Жыл бұрын
It would’ve been cool to see urabrask working with the planes walkers against norn but using his furnace host and willingly turned forces. Dwarves, demons and other creatures that willingly joined the furnace host to fight the invasion
@OctopusWilson
@OctopusWilson Жыл бұрын
On the point of "what are they rushing to?" and you bring up the Lotr set. I just thought, how amazingly tense and suspenseful would it have been to have march of the machine end with a whole all is lost moment, all the planes on the backfoot, maybe even some fully lost. Then have the lotr set and after that non-canon set we get a third set finishing the phyrexia story. That would have been insane!
@nicolasbolas2247
@nicolasbolas2247 Жыл бұрын
I remember when everyone was brainstorming how to defeat the phyrexians. Would Emrakul be brought in? Would Bolas and Ugin come back? Nope. . . The planes simply just fought back. Huh. Never would have thought of that
@Audentior_Ito
@Audentior_Ito Жыл бұрын
This set seems so odd b/c it's both these obscure MTG callbacks, which is awesome, but also refuses to engage with any clever solutions to phyrexian invasion.
@Oxygen1004
@Oxygen1004 Жыл бұрын
I was PRAYING for Eldrazi Phyrexians and Phyrexian Eldrazi, sad nether were in this
@randomrants148
@randomrants148 Жыл бұрын
@@Oxygen1004 That would have been cool, what if Balos was completed.
@alexeagleston5618
@alexeagleston5618 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see at least one card showing Phyrexia trying to invade the Unglued and Unhinged setting and failing due to the absolute chaos of those sets. Like the Borg trying to assimilate the Loony Tunes.
@toonarmyncle4962
@toonarmyncle4962 Жыл бұрын
So sad how there was that whole setup of Elspeth getting killed by heliod because he heard of a vision of him getting offed by her only for it to not be followed up on at all even though him getting completed was the perfect opportunity to make that happen. Instead, nah, Kaya gets to Fortnite dance on the corpse of a god since she can literally kill whatever WoTC wants dead with no issue at all.
@TheSteve_1992
@TheSteve_1992 Жыл бұрын
Eh, but wasn't he "killed" by Elspeth with Shadowspear after she escaped the Underworld? And then he was in the Underworld himself, stuck under a big boulder by Erebos? I remember reading something like this
@toonarmyncle4962
@toonarmyncle4962 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSteve_1992 unfortunately not cannon since we never got the novel for what happened with Theros Beyond Death. So he did get stuck under a rock, but didn’t die explicitly
@ELDevaux
@ELDevaux Жыл бұрын
This is why the 3-set blocks were great. Because it forces a 3 act structure on the poor writing of wizards, which helps. Phyrexia All Will Be One was Act One. March of the Machine was Act Two and they ended the story in Act Two which resulted in this.
@growthought8670
@growthought8670 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. And they would have had the interest and the creative possibilities, too. Wizards basically squandered design space.
@benvictim
@benvictim Жыл бұрын
100% agree. The three act structure would have greatly helped this story.
@astrid_257
@astrid_257 Жыл бұрын
I agree MOM needed another set. It was Amonkhet with Hour of Devastation briefly tacked on. It also doesn’t help we’ve stopped caring about planes beyond being a set piece for planeswalkers.
@jfourney8913
@jfourney8913 Жыл бұрын
Sorry we can't do blocks anymore, we have seen that they don't make as much money as planes hopping every set and introducing new planeswalkers - WOTC We are going to despark all the planeswalkers just because (its def not to let your fave characters be used in commander, not at all) - also WTOC
@TheTrueFool
@TheTrueFool Жыл бұрын
The fact that they're turning a bunch of Planeswalkers into legendary creatures again makes this whole storyline feel like they were just cynically blitzing through the story to sell more commander products.
@Smaul002
@Smaul002 Жыл бұрын
The worst part is that WOTC literally made a video in response to the backlash that amounted to: - The player-base is too impatient to see the effects of the invasion - The player-base is too dumb to not understand that there were high stakes (they proceeded to name B-list characters that bit the dust)
@bye1551
@bye1551 Жыл бұрын
Wait where was this? I need a good laugh I wanna see their incompetence
@Smaul002
@Smaul002 Жыл бұрын
@@bye1551 the video is called #MTGMachine has consequences for the multiverse. It’s on the official magic the gathering KZbin channel
@shark_2283
@shark_2283 Жыл бұрын
i will give them credit i am excited to see what is going on in ahmonket again now.
@Smaul002
@Smaul002 Жыл бұрын
@@shark_2283 lol what credit?
@thesuddendemise7735
@thesuddendemise7735 6 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@shark_2283Seems likely it’s just gonna be business as usual, considering that both Locust and Scarab god basically said “whelp that was fun should do it again some time” before just wandering back into the desert.
@omegablackzero
@omegablackzero Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see a Free Phyrexia being run by limbless yet wise Urabrask.
@Draakhart_961
@Draakhart_961 Жыл бұрын
Warning: Long comment. Dissected into parts. Initial thoughts, hopes I had for the set. You touch upon many of the points I've seen fans agree on. This event had the DNA to be a great story for the Vorthos community: a feared enemy that's been in our minds for more than a decade (Scars of Mirrodin Block), perhaps one of the biggest callbacks to the older sets (Phyrexia as villains just screams Urza and his legacy), and several sets planting tiny seeds as to what their plan was (Vorinclex in Kaldheim, Jin in Kamigawa, Urabrask in New Capenna and Sheoldred in Dominaria), a pretty kickass starting event (All Will be One) with the good guys on the back pedal. It felt like the build up to War of the Spark, if perhaps less 'legendary' and significantly creepier. All in all, huge stakes and shoes to fill, and I freely admit not everyone would be happy with how the story landed, but there was a lot of good put into it. Pacing: I cannot fathom how they thought one set would be enough. I know MTG has thrown the concept of three part blocks away, and whilst for the card game I can sort of agree it has issues, this is the one place I would have returned to that concept. If they can drip feed praetor tasks, we could linger on an event that encompasses THE ENTIRE MULTIVERSE. Even if it was 'Part 1: the War', and 'Part 2: the Finale', though 3 parts would have been better. Small snippets of the invasion make sense for Elspeth's waiting for the right moment to strike, or the amusing Necrowarfare. But as it stands, we never really felt the loss and grit these people had to go through to survive the threat, and that undermines the feeling. The problematic flavour text: 'Render Inert' similarly took any hopes I had for the set away. The oil has never been terribly consistent (how quick it acts, how much is needed, what it does), but I feel if without masters it could transform Argentum to Mirrodin and then New Phyrexia, it shouldn't just stop working like this. That was a pretty big slap to the face. Consequences: Whilst Aftermath is not out yet, it does not strip away the fact that losses within MotM of characters we follow have been scarce, and even undermine previous sets. We've lost Wrenn, Melira and Karn's spark, meaning the cure of phyresis isn't simple: but we've not only recovered Nissa and Ajani, but even have the will of Tamiyo live on. Card spoilers tell of us even more reversals of compleation, and I really don't like that. New Phyrexia is not killed but yeeted, making sure if need be, WotC can just pick it back up. Just like Bolas. Praetors: Sheoldred, Urabrask and Vorinclex were all done dirty, and don't even know if Urabrask died. Vorinclex should have wrestled with Garruk or met his match with Ikorian behemoths: we were SO close. Jin Gitaxias' falling to his own creation is somewhat neat, fell to his own hubris. This is the one death I can accept. Norn mostly is written well (chapter 1's POV is fantastic) but became a petulant child when faced with Elspeth. This, like the rest, needed time to breathe: we should have seen cracks in Norn's Glorious Facade (maybe seen as cracks in her porcelain?) before then, or otherwise stand resolute to her ideals, but outmatched. The good: The writing for the most part, as well as the art, are both pretty good. I adore Norn's Inquisitor's design most of all, and as mentioned before, chapter 1 is fantastic villain writing I will refer to in the future for d&d purposes. Summary: Great potential to be MTG's best storyline, squandered by giving it no breathing room, no major consequences, and an unsatisfying resolution. Yawgmoth and Urza's direct legacy in MTG is over.
@diobrando5896
@diobrando5896 Жыл бұрын
Dissected into parts like ubrask
@randbrannigan2590
@randbrannigan2590 Жыл бұрын
The Sorin of sets.
@C._Bradford
@C._Bradford Жыл бұрын
Based
@TheSteve_1992
@TheSteve_1992 Жыл бұрын
Didn't do anything or failed spectacularly?
@Russian_engineer_bmstu
@Russian_engineer_bmstu Жыл бұрын
​@@TheSteve_1992 got stuck in a rock
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 Жыл бұрын
You are wild, man But clever
@bogdanrajkov
@bogdanrajkov Жыл бұрын
A reason teamups were awkward was that they had to be distributed among planes and amond colors, I think there are 5 wedge mythics and then 10 two color pairs. At some points they ran out of natural pairings so they were like "We need a boros teamup on Amonkhet, sooo Hazoret and... Djeru I guess? He exists?" I agree that it's super underwhelming in some cases tho
@warhammertrash1626
@warhammertrash1626 Жыл бұрын
Can we also talk about how badly Atraxa bit it? The personal creation of four Praetors, voice of Elesh Norn... slain by a steel girder because she got angry at some statues.
@Tristan-2016
@Tristan-2016 Жыл бұрын
Atraxa was probably the strongest Phyrexian since the days of Yawgmoth, and was beaten by a building and some random schmucks. I was honestly hoping Norn would fall and Atraxa would take over and it would be her vs Urabrask in a future set for absolute control of Phyrexia
@malakimphoros2164
@malakimphoros2164 Жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious
@slimek20
@slimek20 Жыл бұрын
It just hit me how "toothless" killing Melira off was. Since the Oil was disabled, that means to more infections so Melira literally lost her gimmick of immunity and cure. So she died.
@robbynito
@robbynito Жыл бұрын
Honestly part of the issue is that Phyrexia is a bit of a perfect villain, with the mere existence of the oil they can't really be defeated, and it makes it a lot more difficult to satisfyingly defeat them The one I wish they went for was Teferi going back in time to kill Yawgmoth and have a soft reboot of the story
@Lukaz2009
@Lukaz2009 Жыл бұрын
I do love that you completely ignored the fact that Lukka was obliterated out of existence in the Ikoria invasion story when looking at the consequences of March of the Machine. Shows how little Lukka ever mattered to anyone. And sort of serves him right for getting compleated in the stupidest way of all the Planeswalkers that got compleated in All Will Be One.
@SuperPal-tr3go
@SuperPal-tr3go Жыл бұрын
Yeah they made Lukka suck despite the fact that him sucking his to do with being corrupted by the Ozolith so its not really his fault removing any kind of pathos from it. Also Wrenn somehow communing with the freaking Realmbreaker and not getting Phyrexized was lame.
@ArixOdragc
@ArixOdragc Жыл бұрын
But Lukka was everyone's favourite red-aligned Ikorian native planeswalker named Lukka!
@Lukaz2009
@Lukaz2009 Жыл бұрын
@@ArixOdragc Well you're not wrong, I guess.
@nathanseverson-baker3412
@nathanseverson-baker3412 Жыл бұрын
The "Thalia was eaten by the Gitrog Monster" meme has been around since Gitrog came out, it's popular in the Canadian Highlander community. It's super cool to see in subtly referenced
@Necr0gen
@Necr0gen Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head in my opinion, the sucked all the fear they built up of the enemies for a quick end. For "War of the Spark", I wish they let Bolas get his God powers, then have him instantly planeswalk away. You would have Bolas' allies asking, "wait... what? How did he do that, the Immortal Sun is still active." The super friends could ask them, "where did he go? Tell us, he must be stopped." But they don't know since Bolas never told them what would happen after the war. Then leave it there, the mystery of what Bolas could possibly be up to would stew and eat away at the reader. Maybe have small cameos every so often where he does something seemingly unrelated, building the mystery further.
@ninnoofthelastunicorn
@ninnoofthelastunicorn Жыл бұрын
This could have been a years long event that changed the way we looked at Magic as a whole but no . Hey look over here another crossover event!!
@firelegendmushroom
@firelegendmushroom Жыл бұрын
I think the coolest way to end it was always for Urabrask to remain as a significant neutral faction controlling what remained of Phyrexia after the defeat. It’s a shame they didn’t go that way in some form.
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai Жыл бұрын
You CAN'T have a Phyrexian with individuality and good conscience! Not in a way that is satisfactory manner.. Phyrexian oil changes, dramatically, how someone thinks for the good of Phyrexian expansion. Period.
@jasonbolding3481
@jasonbolding3481 Жыл бұрын
​@大ダイ Urabrask wasn't good though. As part of the great work all will be completed and both the land and people will be used as resources. The philosophy of red phryxia might be even to give choice but that choice is shown to not be free of some extreme coercion and manipulation.
@boanoah6362
@boanoah6362 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonbolding3481 Nah, Red Phyrexia's whole schtick is that compleation should be something people WANT, it's all about aspiration and working together to build perfection. It's why he left the rebels alone in his layer, it's not because he's some good guy with morals, it's because they're all cogs in the great work whether they want to be or not. Aka you don't need to be compleated to serve Phyrexia's grand ambition to the great work, but you should want to be compleated anyways because Phyrexia is perfection. Every other Praetor basically took the same stance that people don't know any better and when they're made into machine zombies they'll understand how great it is. Urabrask took the route that people don't know any better but they will eventually come to see how great it is and everyone will one day aspire to be compleated. It was easily the neatest and most significant difference that made Red Phyrexia so different, it was passion and ambition.
@kurtmooreca
@kurtmooreca Жыл бұрын
Jace and Vraska will call the shots now, as I think they still stuck there no? WOTC seems to have forgotten about them in MOM narrative.
@shnorkeythefourth4572
@shnorkeythefourth4572 Жыл бұрын
@@kurtmooreca there’s a side story of vraska in ravnica that I won’t spoil but jace was indeed forgotten
@laurelindeep5394
@laurelindeep5394 Жыл бұрын
7:44 - the true scriptures are the Phyrexian Scriptures that we got in the card of that name in Domanaria set in 2018. They are basically the scriptures of Yawgmoth, and have been translated by the community, who found that it reads the same as the flavour text on the card Dark Ritual from back in Urza's Saga. It reads: "From void evolved Phyrexia. Great Yawgmoth, Father of Machines, saw its perfection. Thus the Grand Evolution began." You were right in thinking that they're more true to the faith of the original Phyrexia and Yawgmoth's original orthodoxy. The black faction probably considers them to be a truth that is opposed to Norn's Argent Etchings, who in turn probably sees her works as building on top of Yawgmoth's vision. Of course, the true scriptures aren't actually correct either, since the original Phyrexia didn't evolve from the void, but was created from an artificial plane whose owner had died after it was handed over to Yawgmoth by Dyfed. Still it's a really neat callback and I'm glad they included it for my fav Phyrexian faction (Shelly is bae don't @ me).
@laurelindeep5394
@laurelindeep5394 Жыл бұрын
Btw Rhystic Studies did a really good video on the Phyrexian language stuff about a month ago, which is where I found out about this stuff. Recommend giving it a watch
@Mr._Ultracool
@Mr._Ultracool Жыл бұрын
Shelly is absolutely bae, indeed! Here's hoping they revive some Praetors in either the Aftermath or Phyrexia 3.
@shen8406
@shen8406 Жыл бұрын
Invasion of Segovia is no doubt my favorite card of the set, since I imagined how do a invasion there hould just be... And the card answer perfect. The giant phyrexcian "feeth" inside the water being harassed by tiny fish and worms. A really angry worm that phyrexian can say... And I'm quite sure that Elesh norn looked at the size of the plane and said "Send just one of our regular soldiers, it will be enough" and the guy is being harrassed by a swarm of tine angels unable to properly walk do the worm around is feet and really stuggingle to do anything other than flails is arms around and hoping to it end soon.
@WendigoNet
@WendigoNet Жыл бұрын
I also like the idea that only two phyrexians made it into the plane and got attacked by a legendary bristle worm lol
@KriusAerion
@KriusAerion Жыл бұрын
Segovia is my favorite plane and when I saw that card I lost it. Lol
@brettharrison8478
@brettharrison8478 Жыл бұрын
It feels like the Phyrexians were done dirty when this was supposed to be their big moment. All of this setup, grand plans, years of preparation by a planar faction that’s SUPPOSED to be hyper-intelligent, unstoppable, big and scary bad guys...and they’ve lost every single major war they’ve ever fought. If Phyrexia’s war record was 0-2 before, and they’ve just now failed to invade literally every plane in existence, that makes them 0-1,000,000 Gee, that sure is an intelligent and powerful villain
@verververververver
@verververververver Жыл бұрын
You'd think they would just invade a few planes at a time. Like they did to Mirrodin. Expand at the rate that beings without lifespans would
@silentmagelvx2925
@silentmagelvx2925 Жыл бұрын
This is the set where Toxic Deluge should have been reprinted
@nathantaphorn632
@nathantaphorn632 Жыл бұрын
Disappointed that we only got about 2 cards referencing lorwyn shadowmoor
@reubenfromow4854
@reubenfromow4854 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe Melira fell to the horrifying evil of Septicemia. I wonder if it’s going to be the next big villain 🤔🤔
@christina.morris
@christina.morris Жыл бұрын
This was so cathartic. I'd love for two-set blocks to come back, and I think two sets would have been enough for this one in particular. ONE was kind of the opening salvo, then the middle set for the low point, then the set for the grand finale
@PlatonicLiquid
@PlatonicLiquid Жыл бұрын
It would have been really cool if instead of executing two of the praetors basically unrelated to the invasion and having the other two killed in an aside, the praetors sans Elesh Norn launched their own invasion to one plane each, then when the Zalfiri overlay happens back on New Phyrexia and Norn gets her comeuppance, the praetors are cut off but remain an active threat on those planes. Then the next time those planes are visited, the praetor can be either the antagonist or work with the antagonist of that set. Yes we got to meet the praetors on previous sets as individuals, but save for Sheoldred on Dominaria, their presence had to take a back seat to the introduction to the plane. Pretty much all of the Phyrexia forces we see in MoM and a lot in All Will be One were part of the Machine Orthodoxy so we didn't get that much of a chance to explore the other factions. Idk, just another possible missed opportunity in this whole mess
@FoxyDean
@FoxyDean Жыл бұрын
So I've been playing magic for a long time now, and I can't help but make a certain comparison with MOM. And that's the three block Invasion cycle which was just...so much more impactful. The culmination of threads in the MtG storyline going back to Antiquities, an increased focus on multi-color cards, what I'm pretty sure was the fist instance of the wedges showing up in Apocalypse. The whole thing was a spectacle that really sold the dire straits our heroes were in. And MOM falls so short. I agree with you that it's not really the writing so much as the pacing, and that bringing back at least the two set blocks (I'd love a return to three myself, but I can understand how that might stretch ideas thin) would really, REALLY help the storyline a ton.
@Brntnugget
@Brntnugget Жыл бұрын
In regards to invasion of Innistrad, during the innistrad side story which took the perspective of gissa and geralf, the oil could still “infect” the zombies but gissa could still control with a little more effort. Also phyrexia reanimation I like to think of them having to go through a whole process to turn to their side. Think venser, corpse puppet, wasn’t killed while he was infected so they had to modify the body themselves
@GozMaster
@GozMaster Жыл бұрын
Agreed... For me, the worst, is that they Did my Gurl Atraxa SOOOO Dirty. She could have been epic, I loved her so much I wrote an Entire Cover of One By Metallica for her. lol Great video, love your channel and insights.
@phoenixmaggiore3120
@phoenixmaggiore3120 Жыл бұрын
Really hard to dislike anything concerning Phyrexia; theyve always been my favorite. I started playing in zendikar, so Scars was the first set i got to experience fresh. I love seeing my favorite protagonists and Big Evil Group tm, but i agree that it needed like a whole block to itself. Honestly, I wanted to see Phyrexia on top.
@lostmarble540
@lostmarble540 Жыл бұрын
I thought the praetor cards in MOM were meant to represent their beginnings, kinda like the flip planeswalkers from Origins. Vorinclex especially seemed much younger here than on his other cards, and I assumed the Sheoldred card was showing us what she was like before she got grafted onto a big bug.
@boanoah6362
@boanoah6362 Жыл бұрын
Technically she was never grafted to a bug, she just slithered into it's skull and used it like a mount, it's kind of her gimmick... Also, personally, not a fan of how the Praetors changed for like 0 reason, Urabrask got basically a brand new head and Jin turned his legs into tentacles despite clearly keeping his legs around even when rebuilding his body in Kamigawa.
@laurentiuvladutmanea3622
@laurentiuvladutmanea3622 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am with you. Somebody else mentioned the idea of making it 3 sets, and I agree with this. One idea I had, was to make hints and signs of defeating the oil earlier by using some actual counter measures, so we will not be forced to end with such a let such a let down. What I mean, would be things like showing the scientists of Kamigawa working on nanomachines that counteract the oil, made as a result of studying oil that remained from when Jin went there, writing a scene on Dominaria showing that many parts of the natural world there are actually resistant to oil based compleation, as a result of contact with earlier, less virulent precursors from the earlier, pre-mending invasions, show a flashback scene of Jace and Vraska(before the assault on New Phyrexia and their compleation of course), were they talk with Simic and Izzet researchers to create countermeasures against the oil, and show those counter measures in the story later, and a scene on Innistrad of Sorin working with some angels and demons to create artificial Halo. If you ask me doing this, combined with showing the wild mana of Shandalar destroying the oil, and the creatures of Ikoria adapting, would have allowed this to deal with the invasion without magically turning the oil inert after they dealt with Elesh Norn.
@nim411
@nim411 Жыл бұрын
Its a small note, but Karn asked Teferi for a time bubble, and uses it to put his body back together- basically a few seconds pass for us but Karn gets some decent time to get the job done. Not sure why it had to be Karn and not someone else...
@Thewallace7347
@Thewallace7347 Жыл бұрын
The thing that disappointed me the most is we heard nothing of garruk. You know the guy that when he got cursed made inastrad tremble in his wake and beat the over loving shit outa chain veiled liliana, and now made it his mission to find and save the kenrith twins. Yeah that guy just doesn't show. Ik they wrote themselves into a corner with his power level but I think it would have been cinematic for him to show up pissed in a needed moment, or at least make a nod to the fact hes probably solo defending a plane out there.
@romyjane17
@romyjane17 Жыл бұрын
He should have been the one to beat up vorinclex. Apex vs apex
@gyrasolune5436
@gyrasolune5436 Жыл бұрын
I actually think it could've been a cool callback to the /original/ Phyrexia block if it was indeed split up in 3 arcs, and All will be One set up a little bit more of the invasion aspect - and also introduced the battles, where Phyrexia won all of them to secure their foothold in the Multiverse - then the second set would depict them having some /major/ wins, but also be equally interspersed with successful comebacks - and then the /last/ set would be the one where they were being greatly driven back. Kind of to echo how in this place's first appearance, we saw Mirrodin gradually convert into New Phyrexia - and here, we'd see things gradually convert back.
@romulusnuma116
@romulusnuma116 Жыл бұрын
It was very disappointing that it's over with so fast. You got all my thoughts about it
@orangegalen
@orangegalen Жыл бұрын
MTG story: Phyrexia is invading the entire multiverse, every day more and more ground is lost to those rotters, we can only achieve little victories and just making it to another day is the best we can do. MTG cards (esp. Battles): Lol get wrecked Phyrexia, get gud. Like, come on not even one plane fell to Phyrexia? No other planeswalkers? Basically WotC fumbled most of the whole storyline. At least with Spark War I could fool myself into believing it could happen in like a day or two, but MoM feels like it takes place both over a month and three days. No real sense of time as the set needed to both have the invasion and the finale in the same set.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
Multiple planes fell. Just...not ones that EVER got representation on a card - even a token plane card - and that nobody ever cared for even slightly.
@theunease5541
@theunease5541 Жыл бұрын
I've said it before, but if they really wanted some more emotional impact with their cards they could have made "Fblthp, forever lost" a compleated Fblthp. But people would legit riot. As it stands that lore of basically using Fblthp as a spider sense is fucking hilarious and so endearing. But yeah the story as a whole was a major disappointment. Especially annoying seeing the dissonance between cards and story. Like, the praetors got their a full cycle of their biggest best and last cards in the set, and glissa got a new card for the 2nd set in a row, and heliod got a compleated card. Yet in the story Elesh was the only one that did FUCKING ANYTHING, and they were all killed unceremoniously all in the span of less than a paragraph. AAAAAAAAAAA.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
1st point: guess they assumed Omnath was enough. 2nd point: it really says something that the latest Yugioh arc with the kiddy art style is far more poignant for characters, story and theme than THIS even tried to be.
@SuperPal-tr3go
@SuperPal-tr3go Жыл бұрын
I really hate how they dealt with actually defeating the invasion by just killing Norn instead coming up with anything more clever. Just kill the Borg Queen and instant win just feels lame.
@orangegalen
@orangegalen Жыл бұрын
Even the Borg (at least before S3 Picard) would still be active after the queen’s death - just like how Phyrexia originally came back without Yawgmoth, the CREATOR of Phyrexia, did. But then Norn norned (somehow) and was able to ironically corrupt the oil to be bound to her instead. Like, wut?
@jfourney8913
@jfourney8913 Жыл бұрын
Wotc and ruining their own products, a truly iconic duo. This needed to be a multi set arc to truly finish. And I don't mean including dominaria united, and then brothers war setting up teferi and zhalfir. This needed to be stretched out so the story could breathe. And we needed actual stakes or deaths or something that matters going forward. Not just oh the oil is inert, phyrexia is locked away for later use teehee teehee, that they did, so that it can be brought back. There was a big deal, 30 years of build up! And it was finished in like 3 paragraphs. It was such an incredible let down.
@steveselkirk3352
@steveselkirk3352 Жыл бұрын
WOTC never fails at poor story writing. Nothing like building another ultimate bolas level story then just ending it abruptly with no pay-off. It's like no one at WOTC has ever seen a slasher movie so they think it's appropriate to kill the villain off in the first 20 minutes then just have the rest of the characters walk away and leave the film running for another hour.
@roondar6141
@roondar6141 Жыл бұрын
Man remember when Wizards used the multi-set block structure to tell a story about a Phyrexian invasion and managed to hide the outcome of that invasion by teasing two potential names for the third set that determined the outcome God current Magic's structure fucks with how they tell stories now
@pigg1619
@pigg1619 Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame we didn’t get Colossal Dredmaw and Colossal Dredmaw in March of the Machine, most anticipated combo of them all, but I guess it would have been too powerful.
@tikamajere316
@tikamajere316 Жыл бұрын
Your honest thoughts are so refreshing to hear. I have no drive to play this set at all...
@benzur3503
@benzur3503 Жыл бұрын
53:02 you’d be surprised at how common this was before antibiotics. Slipped on the pavement? Oh dear I’ll pray to Serra for your good health but let me prepare the casket just in case ⚰️ 😬
@nisc92
@nisc92 Жыл бұрын
I mean there was also Tamiyos death >:/ But nobody remembering her death scene shows how badly it was executed. And it pains me to see that the more interesting characters that are not normal fantasy tropes (especially meaning that they are none violent characters) are thrown away but the standard save choices remain....
@Cobracon7
@Cobracon7 Жыл бұрын
A single drop of oil from Karn created all this mess on Mirrodin to begin with, now it's inert because Iron Man blew up the ship? I mean Elspeth kills Elesh Norn...
@Warhammer_lover
@Warhammer_lover Жыл бұрын
It's so weird, considering they could've milked it for years.
@DrakleStudios
@DrakleStudios Жыл бұрын
I will say I think the angels of the multiverse do have an explanation thanks to Serra's involvement. My theory is that as Serra's Realm was sundered by Yawgmoth, she used her Pre-Mending powers to bless angelkind with the power to rebuke Glistening Oil as a 5D chess move to prepare for the return of Yawgmoth in the form of Halo. It was a cool parallels to me. Still wish that we had more sets to show off Phyrexia compleating ass and taking planes
@barigordstudios
@barigordstudios Жыл бұрын
There was a Gisa and Geralf story from when the Eldrazi invaded Innistrad. I wonder if it was the same story with a few words changed.
@Eclipsed_Archon
@Eclipsed_Archon Жыл бұрын
It feels very much like more was initially planned for the set but then someone much higher up the ladder said it needed to be done quick for some reason, like maybe because WotC isn't being so great for Hasbro lately or because a LotR set was suddenly on the table...
@LexYeen
@LexYeen Жыл бұрын
I was hyped for this, and for the next set, until WotC hired _literally the Pinkertons_ to strongarm a youtuber.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
That REALLY needs to overshadow any other discussion right now.
@johanandersson8252
@johanandersson8252 Жыл бұрын
I think the Praetors are in their combat/invasion forms in the set. Drana and Linvala are Roommates. Baral and Kari i ship them both.
@notreallyhere67
@notreallyhere67 Жыл бұрын
Krenko got turned into Shrek’s younger cousin.
@AlcasSin
@AlcasSin Жыл бұрын
The last time we had invasion of Dominaria it was set from Weatherlight to Apocalypse (with a short detour for Urza's Saga). It was 4 years, and after that we had aftermath in additional błock with Karona the False God. The story was complete. Now it is rushed, while it could last for 2 years.
@WyrmsOfWonder
@WyrmsOfWonder Жыл бұрын
between Urabrask and Ixchel amongst other phyrexians, as well as the bits we get from the inner thoughts of the compleated walkers I kept thinking that they'd actually solve the phyrexian plot by usurping elesh norn and replacing her with a coalition lead by koth and urabrask, it felt like a bit of a nobrainner to me but now I see that was mostly wishful thinking. What gets to me about it I think is just how frequently we get told that the phyrexians are a mechanical parody of life, and clearly one that wants desperately to become life, to exist naturally, but because of how they were created initially it's been an uphill process, but we see more and more that with the help of the ambient energy that gifted them the four missing colours of mana and created that diversity of thought within them that they are starting to really come together as beings. I really think it would have been a lot more interesting if the phyrexians had been given the chance to grow and rehabilitate, with the compleated walkers having to carve their individually back out of the hardened dogma norn had forced on them
@TheAirbears
@TheAirbears Жыл бұрын
I know it's disappointing... but I'm happy to see you if that helps!
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE Жыл бұрын
One thing to note about the angels Atraxa was compleated by a combination of 4 of the praetors, I think it might have been the case that while the oil corrupts compleation still required surgery
@inkyno1
@inkyno1 Жыл бұрын
I went to a pre-release blind, exited to see what cool Phyrexia cards there will be and see all the cool compleated cards. Then I opened my first pack and the first card I see is Mirrodin Avenged, a common and fairly bad card. All my excitement was immediately drained. Aside that I hate that all the Praetors just like, die? There wasn't much build up and they are just dead now...? Urabrask is "alive" still but like, Vorinclex gets decapitated by Named_Knight_32? It so underwhelming. I also don't understand where the mass amounts of Pryrexians came from? Like, it took *all* of Amonkhet's eternals to invade one other plane. But somehow Phyrexia is physically able to invade *ALL* other planes? Like Realmbreaker can do whatever, but the physical army to invade them? I don't see it. I guess that's why there is only one dude on Shandalar lmao
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai Жыл бұрын
We wanted it and waited for so long.. and it arrived like a wet fart (story-wise). Like most, it's a fun set to Draft. The overhyped Battles are just transforming Planeswalkers with ETBs and no Loyalty abilities, that turn into normal stuff.. so cards with extra steps and giant walls of text. It's hard to take these 1-Sets seriously, when the story stinks.. and it affects everyone's enjoyment of the cards as well. To me, the worse one is Kamigawa, it places Stun Counters.. a mechanic NOT present in the plane. As with everything new-Kamigawa, they just don't understand it.
@benzur3503
@benzur3503 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the legendary pairings did their best to add a color that at least one of the individuals in it wouldn’t normally have to make their unlikely cooperation flavourful
@butHomeisNowhere___
@butHomeisNowhere___ Жыл бұрын
Yooo, Mr.Myr is back! I just found your content about 2 months ago and binged damn near everything in like 5 days :)
@michaelcollins4534
@michaelcollins4534 Жыл бұрын
Fellas remember that if you ever want to invade the multiverse, don't invade it all simultaneously. Gotta be a bit more patient than that
@atlys258
@atlys258 Жыл бұрын
"I'm pissed off.. I'm pissed off.. it's such a letdown" me too buddy, me too, and that frustration and disappointment are well more than justified. Idk how they thought this was going to turn out well or what they were even thinking beyond trying to build enough completely hollow hype to maximize sales. I really didn't think it was even possible, but somehow they managed to mishandled this worse than Magic 30. 🤦🏽
@WendigoNet
@WendigoNet Жыл бұрын
I believe the Tarkir art is supposed to be parchment depictions. When I saw the Goreclaw one, it struck me as a cave painting.
@fabbygarza9863
@fabbygarza9863 Жыл бұрын
storywise, yeah BUT the drafting is one of the most exciting ones i have played recently super fun and dynamic, way more freeform and less rigid than ONE which is cool flavour wise i guess but its really fun to draft
@justincurtis6355
@justincurtis6355 Жыл бұрын
You are my favorite MTG KZbinr and every time you release a new video it makes my whole week. I agree that this set could have benefited from being a 2 or 3 set block, BUT I truly loved the “Wrenn and Eight” story and I will never not adore the image of a bunch of Mirrans tossing Wrenn back and forth like a football trying to get her to Realmbreaker. Keep it up!
@theunease5541
@theunease5541 Жыл бұрын
The Ikoria frame is supposed to be mix between old monster movie posters and comics iirc.
@Coffeewings334
@Coffeewings334 Жыл бұрын
While I’m definitely not as much of a magic story kind of person, I do agree. This would have been a perfect set to go “oh shit, everything awful is happening all at once. The Simic are the new overlords of Ravnica except they are more evil than ever, Kaladesh just got Mirrodin’d, and the Phyriexans are attempting to compleat the Moon on Innistrad.” And instead it just feels like they just lose everywhere immediately. I think the payoff was… okay-ish, but the leadup makes it feel like none of the big planeswalker action moments were even necessary because the Phyrexians were apparently just losing anyway.
@stickoIogy
@stickoIogy Жыл бұрын
Incubate is a perfect mechanic for my Katsumasa the animator deck, I really like the new cards mechanic, and even card type! The uh, story is uh, written!
@hewettlo
@hewettlo Жыл бұрын
As someone who started playing in 1995, I've almost away tried to piece together the story from the flavor text and art on the cards, even on sets that had published stories. You get this hazy picture, an incomplete story where you have to sort of fill in the blanks of what happened. I think it's far more satisfying to experience the lore that way rather than the novels or web releases, which have always been sub-par.
@doku6255
@doku6255 Жыл бұрын
Instead of what they chose to do with aftermath they should of used aftermath as a normal set and it had them fight back and win the fight, and could of made another set to cover aftermath stuff
@doku6255
@doku6255 Жыл бұрын
Or just give that like 2 chapters at the end but give the set more cards and have the set mainly be a loud them finally fighting back, and could of focused the first part focused on the bad guys winning
@simpforsable
@simpforsable Жыл бұрын
They also did the same thing with strixhaven frames that they did on kaladesh. Where you now have creatures in the mystical archive spell frame.
@randomrants148
@randomrants148 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised they didn't split the invasions into different sets like March of Machine: The Invasion of the Multiverse beings then it ended where Elash Norn opens the portals. I have listened the story it has so many plot holes that can't shrug it, I can't ignore it because I am a type of person that isn't bother by plot holes if it's hard to notice from the start. Anyways they could split like this March of the Machine: Invasion of Theros, Invasion of Eldraine, Ixalan while making Battles for each different places on for each of the planes. I wanted Urabrask to be in the story a lot more what they did, he could have been anti-hero than later on have sort of hero redemption that's what see him as a chaotic natural antihero in the story. What if the planeswalkers didn't straight up win? What if Urabrask started to show empathy toward the multiverse then putting his own plans on hold and getting his domain back while forming bounds with others and what if planeswalkers still exist form a brand-new team, sort of like the gatewatch but temporally then have the final climb climax. I don't know fleshing out Urabrask that way would make it interesting and make sense after we all know what he is, and I am not sure he still can be trusted to the multiverse. I wish he hasn't got taken down like Vegeta he is a twisted mind character but likeable one and I wish at the end he earns to be spare then be part of the multiverse and have a side story showing his empathy nature to the world. It would be sweet if he shows empathy toward an orphanage and now his daughter later on willing to be complete. I don't know I am not a writer of magic the gathering.
@Angelec99
@Angelec99 Жыл бұрын
I think that it made sense that the Phyrexians didn't make a successful invasion because most of the Preators fought against each other rather than working together. I think they would have won if they did. But what sucks is even if you compare this to the Eldrazi, this threat had no stakes and was virtually nothing in comparison. Then again I might be biased because I was hoping the Phyrexians would win and then the multiverses would have to live in hiding or something.
@GFreeGamer
@GFreeGamer Жыл бұрын
Those last fwe chapters almost felt like bullet points and I was pretty disappointed. Thankfully the limited environment's gameplay is fun is I can pretend I stopped after Vraska's chapter.
@NayanBeardy
@NayanBeardy Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of WW2 was when all of the axis power soldiers became inert, then shattered into a thousand shards. 56:40 But really though, I set my expectations way to high really, wizards said that the game would be changing forever or something along those lines, Month out from the set, with only its name and theories, I was thinking something like "emrakul gets released and her corrupting powers reset the universe" or something else extreme. All will be one was a well written for the beginning of the story and had us all hooked with planeswalkers being completed and a true invasion of the multiverse. MoM on the other hand, was a rushed ending to a story without a middle, i.e the phyrexians actually invading and doing things, as opposed to us being dropped in the middle them losing phyrexians losing. What's up with Aftermath to? We get a 3rd set as a prologue...when the story feels incomplete still? It doesn't feel deserved, despite this narratively being the biggest fight the series could ever see. Aftermath itself is even getting ire for being a poorly conceived product, cuz it is.
@holgerdanielsen3781
@holgerdanielsen3781 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the Ixalan frame!
@silvermyr
@silvermyr Жыл бұрын
Oh bollocks I did! It's not bad! Not amongst my favourites but it's a unique idea and I like how the coins reference the struggle over Orazca
@nathanseverson-baker3412
@nathanseverson-baker3412 Жыл бұрын
Though the set had many issues, it was soo much better than war of the spark. I'll take what I can get! I wish they saved some of the climactic "turning the tides" moments for aftermath, and left the end of this set more ambiguous.
@joebaumgart1146
@joebaumgart1146 Жыл бұрын
From a story perspective I agree with you, but from a competitive game play perspective the cards are pretty good. I like that they brought back Planechase.
@SpotUncleSammy
@SpotUncleSammy Жыл бұрын
I have some of my own nitpicks about the story I think Karn losing his spark is one of the least important characters to despark since normal matter cannot go through the blind eternities, but if another planeswalker could just yank him to wherever they needed his help then who cares if he sacrificed himself. (This might be irrelevant due to the aftermath leaks, but oh well) It also irks me that Nissa and Ajani were uncompleted rather than just being killed off. Could you imagine of Chandra and Nissa had some reason to go to Kamigawa and met up with Nashi and Kaito? Chandra would be gushing about how lucky she was to be saved and then Nashi just going into a rage or being upset about it. Acting out since his "Mother" was compleated and had to be put down but Nissa got to be saved since Chandra loved Nissa enough/had plot armor that she was able to be saved. It could set Nashi up to become a villain or something like that, but i feel like that would be a stretch/not worth trying to explore that possibility. I am curious to see if maybe the prators on New Phyrexia are all dead dead. If Zalfir was phased outside of existence, but they were still preparing and living their lives. There could be a minor character like Glissa that either try to rebuild the prators, or try to become the next generation of prators for the possible next encounter with phyrexia. They should have been stuck on Mirrodin/New Phyrexia, but they ended up lucking out and getting this invasion in the first place. And in the same vein of them being on the outskirts of the multiverse they could be found by some other entity and be "unlocked" again now with more knowledge about the multiverse be able to put up a better fight? But with how over powered the oil is/was i could also see them using this as a way to keep them out of the way for good.
@MagusFlorren
@MagusFlorren Жыл бұрын
“I think I even have a couple of positive things to say in this video” 🎉😂😊
@DrunkenPilotVideos
@DrunkenPilotVideos Жыл бұрын
I like the original krenko with the shark nose and teeth. makes him stand apart from other goblins
@TheMacqo
@TheMacqo Жыл бұрын
I do believe that the writing itself is good, in some stories very good even, the moment depicted in storm the seedcore was epic, the story of Vraska and Jace really moved me. I agree with it being extremely rushed, and that it should have been three sets story at least, but it made me feel and for me that's the ultimate goal of a story.
@hauntingcarrot2263
@hauntingcarrot2263 Жыл бұрын
technically my favorite plane no longer exists, its Old Kamigawa...
@kidren50
@kidren50 2 ай бұрын
Mirrodin is my favorite plane in MTG, and the whole concept of Phyrexia has always fascinated me. For years I looked for its comeback, but then wizards announced it was only gonna be 3 sets. T H R E E. I knew then it was gonna be awful. The original story with Urza and the Phyrexians was spread through 14-15 set's, starting in the Mirage Block and ending in Apocalypse. They developed many characters, went over multiple Planes, they had high stakes.
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