Another great review! I really like the way you take our pocket books into consideration so I thank you for that! My mnoney tree is not in bloom so maybe my new set will be between Timmy's set or the Supermix. Thanks again.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! It's a silly hobby. XD
@earlybird36683 ай бұрын
this.. is a excellent review. thank-you. Dunu DaVinci, and Simgot EM10 S tiers for less than $450.00! IEMs just keep getting more refined. A Simgot EM6L, or the new SuperMix 4! Simgot is the bang for buck KING! (just add foam tips.)
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
That’s key , what you like is most important.
@TheModeRed3 ай бұрын
I have SM4. What are good brand foam tips? I am coming back to this hobby after 15 years!
@earlybird36683 ай бұрын
@@TheModeRed I have great luck with Comply tips. Also for silicon I use Dunu S + S. SM4, nice.
@ineras33 ай бұрын
Exactly why I went with DaVinci+SM4. SM4 is just more interesting to me because it's Simgot's first quadbrid and planar/piezo implementation, and it's just so close tuning-wise to the EM10. Great reviews!
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! That's a sold pair of iems!
@tilo20553 ай бұрын
How does the DaVinci compare to SM4 ?
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20162 ай бұрын
How do you rate the separation on SM4 7/10 or higher ?? Thank You.
@highlow98252 ай бұрын
I noticed that in your ranking chart, the EM10 dropped from an S- to an A. Could you explain the reasons for this change? I also found that it is rated similarly to the Pilgrim. Between the two, which do you think is better? I'm considering purchasing one of them.
@Jaytiss2 ай бұрын
I redid the way I calculate my ranking so I only need to figure out 7 rating instead of 9 to streamline my process. Both the Pilgrim and em10 are solid sets. It’s very close. I also find the Harmon tuning to be slightly brighter than what I like.
@bearinmind1012 ай бұрын
what would you consider a direct upgrade from the simgot em10?
@Jaytiss2 ай бұрын
Depends what you want. If you want a Harmon style set with great bass. I can’t think of anything more enjoyable than this. I really like it. The diva or fat freq gm Coukd be options but are way more expensive.
@angle-w7x3 ай бұрын
How does it compare to zhulinniao’s qingluanz4? I’m considering changing my headphones recently.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
No idea what that is.
@pleasehelp6233 ай бұрын
how's the bass quality compare between supermix4 and em10? akros mentioned the bass of supermix is better? (not sure if he was referring to bass quality or the overall fr balance / quantity) than em10 and I see you rate them both 9 at the moment
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
They are very close but I do like the n bass on the en10 more.
@pleasehelp6233 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss thanks for the insight, very helpful! was also curious, how about the bass quality of supermix vs aful explorer (which seems to have more midbass)
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Honest about the same. Em10 has a more balanced sound Explorer is just a rich deep cannon of bass. Huge suprise from Aful, but pleasant.
@pleasehelp6233 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss good to see from Aful. sorry one more question if you don't mind; I see reviews mentioning supermix has very low impedance, so a powerful source can sound different (worse or better). so I'm wondering what source do you use for supermix and others
@zblus3 ай бұрын
Is the EM10 an upgrade over the Hype4? (For bass and smooth treble) Which do you personally enjoy more? 🤔
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Em 10 is my bae. I love that set. It's really solid.
@zblus3 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss Thanks! Would you say the Hype4 is brighter or warmer sounding than the EM10?
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
It’s close. I think hype is brighter, and em10 is warmer.
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20162 ай бұрын
@@Jaytisswhich one has more details Hype4 or EM10 JAYTISS ?? I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE PILGRIM, THEY ARE LEAN SOUNDING TO ME !
@AT-vj2mz3 ай бұрын
Why does your em10 graph look different from the other 2 ive seen? Was this revised it had over +12db bass shelf I'm certain your sample is different from the one HBB has on squig, comparing em10 to the same iems
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
A few possible reasons. His was a Sample, mine had some channel imbalance. Also different squigs things look different.
@AT-vj2mz3 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss aw, this complicates things for me =(, I was under the impression the em10 had significantly more bass than the sm4
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
I think it’s a bit better and I like it. But unfortunately the two are very close. Bass on the em10 sounds deep rich and of good quality.
@AT-vj2mz3 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss thanks! I ended up buying the em10, cheers
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
Jaytiss you are my best IEM Tour Guide , at least I'm not lost anymore Thank You for all your great videos . HBB said it's INTENSE, So it's good for younger Audiophile, just not for me , my ears are ringing now...haha....but l still love and enjoy Music just don't listen as loud volume. Thank you again cheers.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton. I appreciate the kind words. Enjoy your music. :)
@dominicbash23814 күн бұрын
Hey do you think this is worthy of an upgrade to the chopin
@Jaytiss14 күн бұрын
It has cleaner bass and a similar sound signature with a great fit. Coukd be a fun upgrade. I see some used ones floating around.
@StarBuccaneers1683 ай бұрын
Conclusion - be a true audiophile and have IEMs all over the house. Thanks for the comparisons. I think Supermix 4 is so good at that price, not sure spending extra money for EM10 is worth it.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
This, exactly this. XD
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
Hi Jaytiss , what is the best recommedation for ear tips ? l ordered both the Hydro and Pilgrim after your reviews and tried the SpinFit w1 , they are really comfortable with good seal for better sound just looking for the best Tips now. Thank You Cheers !
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
That’s a good question. W1s are nice tips. Maybe stay with them. Tips are mainly about comfort but can massively impact sound.
@renatobdc3 ай бұрын
I very much like the way you compare the iems!
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@bozardo1013 ай бұрын
Great review and ESPECIALLY the comparisons. I like IEM reviews that do comparisons and I like your opinions. Keep it up!! I subscribed to you today. Btw, I was wondering if you will do a review of the Tanchjim Origin?
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
It's tough, like I might look into getting one in to borrow. But I have like 4 reviews to do with a few more products coming in. The graph looks really lean, and I'm worried if it'd be for me. I did review the Tanchjim 4u which has a similiar curve.
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
I would skip Origin , it's pricey l don't think it worth the money for its performance Timmy says things too exactuated , unless price is no object to you..
@bozardo1013 ай бұрын
@@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016 Would you say the Tanchjim Origin is better than the Chopin in your personal opinion?
@bozardo1013 ай бұрын
@Jaytiss I respect that. I would say it's still WORTH IT to try out. It has VERY decent mid-bass and is really clean and clear which is surprising to me since it's only the single dynamic driver. It may come across simbilant to other people but I still think it's definitely worth a try. There is still surprisingly a fullness with the bass. Also with my own comparison against the Chopin, I actually like the Origin better (my personal opinion). But I would still like to hear your thoughts when you ever get a chance 🙏
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
@@bozardo101 l would skip both , they are amazing mid tier sets ,Pilgrim, Performer 8 , DaVinci , SuperMix4, SM10 are upper / top mid tier sets . Thank You l have the Performer 8 , for a lot of people , it's already an endgame IEM set , but it's picky , they need good seal tips the SpinFit W1 is the best so far l have used or foam tips ,plus upgrade cable NiceHCK GrKing , Burn=In 200-300 hours , Topping E70 Velvet DAC and SMSL SH-6 give 2000mw output on low gain for less forward sound , this give me amazing tonality Grand SubBass and amazing micro details .My portable MoonRiver AMP DAC gives me good power , but slightly lack of refinement that the Topping give me.CHEERS This hobby really depends on how much you're willing to spend , the cheaper set l will end up stay untouched . So go for a better set to avoid regular upgrade instead of buying similar level performance IEMs. My Pick would be Hype 4 , Pilgrim or something better Thank You .
@predatorxg3 ай бұрын
Is the DaVinci worth the extra $ over the SuperMix 4? I’m pretty much stuck between the two and wanna buy before the sale discount codes finish on AliExpress. I have the ability to EQ (with the Qudelix 5K) if that helps with my question?
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
I think so! But it's tough, there might a new iem with the same jm 1 tuning from someone else cheaper soon.
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
SuperMix 4 seems rated higher than the DaVinci,the DaVinci seems to have less air ! I believe both are amazing IEM , Buy them both is ideal.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Yeah try both then decide.
@superuser81593 ай бұрын
Great work on the graphs! 8k alignment is perfect
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
❤️
@hameedn.b70043 ай бұрын
Great review, very helpful. Cheers!
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JAG3RmanJENSON3 ай бұрын
Debating between the Explorer, the performer 5 and the Falcon ultra. As my next set. Want a set that hits hard. Love bass. Falcon ultra $163 Explorer $120 P5 $170 The Explorer is newer and looks like the bass hits harder The Falcon Ultra is $90 off on sale and has crazy amount of accessories and great quality. The P5 looks like a very good all arounder with good accessories and is $80 off right now SuperMix is my other pair.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
that's tough, but for a bass specialist the Explorer is a good set.
@3948-03 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! How come scores change sometimes on your spreadsheet?
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Opinions change. I also recently did a few revamps to clean it up on my end.
@Atechreviews3 ай бұрын
Great review 👍👍
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@ammarramadhan35753 ай бұрын
This or xenns top?
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Still need to try that one.
@ammarramadhan35753 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss alright, will wait for that review!
@SlumptyDumpty2 ай бұрын
@@JaytissXenns Top +$30 for your Thieaudio Oracle Mk3?
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20162 ай бұрын
Separation on the Top only 7/10 a little lacking in that area.
@marumaru54803 ай бұрын
I have the DaVinci which i do like a lot, i was looking for a secondary set, a bit different, maybe SM4 wouldn't be bad, though i already got the EA500LM.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
They are really similar. But I like the sm4 sonically more and the fit more, so there is a case depending on what you need.
@wengezhu13 ай бұрын
I found many cables with this type of adapter design annoying. I too recently had few accident with Penon cables which easily disconnect if you are using them either outside or in your bed. The better design is like those in Effect Audio ConX, where there is a locking mechanism.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. It's super annoying.
@zblus3 ай бұрын
Super curious about both so got the EM10 and supermix4 😅
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
I hope that you enjoy them!
@jokerquy29982 ай бұрын
is it worth the upgrade from sm4 to em10, i currently consider these iems
@zblus2 ай бұрын
@@jokerquy2998 hard to say, I find both a bit too bright rn, but I like the em10 better. On the other hand, Aful Explorer is more my thing currently
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20162 ай бұрын
What is their separation rating ? 7/10 or higher. Do they sound lean ?
@dujankees3 ай бұрын
Great comparisons!
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@shaunbrady153 ай бұрын
Bro the pilgrim is so detailed. I prefer it to some of my 1k plus iems
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
It's very good!
@shaunbrady153 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss do you prefer davinci or em10? Sounded like they were trading blows
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
What about Pilgrim vs Monach mk2 or something higher end ? Thank You .
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Sub bass on em10, upper mids on Davinci. Depends on the mood. :)
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
Have you try better tips and what types ? A reviewer recommended the AZLA MAX ear tips , it improved sound well.
@kekappa22683 ай бұрын
I wounder what kind of filter does it take.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
you mean physical filter? Nozzles can't be removed.
@kekappa22683 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss Ok thanks
@mash96893 ай бұрын
Great review, love the comparisons! Cant decide between these and the Thieaudio hype 4! Both on sale, they are the same price, what would you pick? No brainer im guessing for the Em10. The hypes are just so pretty haha
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
I like them a lot, but it's tough at this price because so many good stuff. Supermix 4 is a solid budget option, as is Davinci. But I really love the Simgot em10, it's stellar.
@residentzero3 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss would the em10 be a good complement to the Hype 4 if you already have this? It would it be redundant to have both?
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Maybe try the supermix 4. It’s a solid set first. But I do like the em10 as it provides something unique.
@residentzero3 ай бұрын
@@Jaytiss I'm returning the Hype 4, too bassy and sibilant, and the bling design. So if money wasn't a factor and was to pick between the Supermix 4 and the EM10, which one do you think is better?
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Em10. I love it. Feels crazy fun.
@AliR033 ай бұрын
I was wondering if you can eq what you have to whatever you want, then why would i buy a bunch of them instead of getting a good technical one then eq it 🤔
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Some guys dont't want to EQ. People are different and enjoy what they want. On that basis just buy a hola and eq. EQ is nice and helpful, but it is problematic if you swap iems a bit to compare.
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
eq dosen't give you high quality sound , the tonality quality , separation , micro details , you can't eq that at all .
@AliR033 ай бұрын
@@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016 What I said? "Good technical iem" Do you want your zero drivers to perform like Ltd? a good one like b3 and a good eq program, and you are 90% there for nothing
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio20163 ай бұрын
@@AliR03 if you eq the b3 , you still not going to get the Annilinator sound quality.
@AliR033 ай бұрын
@@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016 Yeah, if you would spend 3k for just an iem and 20% improvement for 10× the price I see. I see
@quantum_coach3 ай бұрын
Jaytiss I have the EA500LM (I love them), watching this review: do you think the SuperMix4 is a must buy for upgrading? I'm searching for a real upgrade. I'm planning to buy the DaVinci... so I'm thinking to make 1 or even 2 purchases.
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely. It's a great upgrade if you like the LM.
@nhatminhle44503 ай бұрын
Bought it for $290 so no regret
@Jaytiss3 ай бұрын
🔥
@zblus3 ай бұрын
How? Where was this deal?
@nhatminhle44503 ай бұрын
@@zblus This was a special discount from one of my local shop so unfortunately no online link