Simgot EW200 vs TRN Conch, 40 USD fight!

[@matusjurcik6974]

I just discovered you. It seems I will stop by more often 😉. Nice review. Nice to see someone who also put emphasis on eartips and cables synergy

[@Jaawaudio]

Hello there! Thanks for the kind words, I try to bring information into my reviews that I personally would like to see, so tiprolling is definitely a big deal for me. It's a shame eartips don't get enough focus, it's a very critical part of the hobby, sometimes can be a make-or-break situation! 🤘

[@matusjurcik6974]

@@Jaawaudio agree

[@toufikhtohar5104]

If you want to reduce the treble in the conch, insert the foam pieces into the red nozzle

[@Jaawaudio]

Modding is definitely a cool part of the hobby, hardware EQ so to speak 😅

[@andreslopez9592]

can you recommend which foam? 300?350?400?450?500? 4mm?4.2mm?4.5mm? people recommend foam mesh but don't specify

[@toufikhtohar5104]

400/450

[@thedude1249]

⭐Great review. 💕

[@Jaawaudio]

Thank you, trying to up the ante as I go, slow and steady 😅

[@avex3903]

thanks for the review and comparison did you try the trn t ear tips that come with conch if yes how do you find them and do they affect the bass quantity

[@Jaawaudio]

Hey! Yeah the TRN T-tips are pretty good, I find them to be pretty balanced in sound, very slight increase in bass due to more isolation perhaps, but nothing like Final TypeE. Thanks for the question!

[@zombie8473]

I loved the comparison you made with all the models. I really liked the cable combo you have with the trn conch, can you tell me the name of the cable?

[@Jaawaudio]

Thanks! Tripowin Zonie cables are what I mostly use on budget sets, it's a nice one for the price, many color options 👍

[@rvs300z]

@@Jaawaudio what cable do you buy for your higher end iem’s?

[@Jaawaudio]

@@rvs300z I buy a lot of Xinhs, but for the special sets I order from Gladiator Cables

[@Error8x8]

The success of the Kiwi Ears Cadenza is proof that people like Harmon tuned iem's despite the constant bitching of reviwers and know-it-all audiophiles

[@wemustgo]

Many people prefer CCA Rhapsody

[@Jaawaudio]

I feature Rhapsody in my Quartet video. It's such a great IEM, but MSRP being 50 USD, it has to compete in the next price point. Thanks for the comment!

[@raifilho-0085]

Ótimo vídeo. Pode me indicar um kit de ear tips? Obrigado!

[@Jaawaudio]

Eartips? I just made a guide video on eartips :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3WQqnmEoJaUibM

[@raifilho-0085]

@@Jaawaudio ✌

[@StarBuccaneers168]

I like how you mention which ear tips you used for the review.

[@Jaawaudio]

Yeah I mention eartips when it's relevant, if I don't say anything it means stock tips are fine and my pref tips didn't affect sound. Thanks for the feedback!

[@TheVeganVicar]

Eartips are ALL-IMPORTANT!

[@marksr12]

I really enjoyed your review! I have three of your 5 IEMS. I pick the EW200 over the Conch, that's just me. The Conch and the EW200 are great values for your money.

[@Jaawaudio]

Agreed, purely personal tonality preference, I pick EW200 as well 😅

[@bladecup]

True. ew200 are better in every area, just lacking accessories...

[@matusjurcik6974]

Crazy is that conch is more or less on the level of tripowin olina se and it can be found for as low as 25 dollars. Crazy

[@TheVeganVicar]

TOTALLY agree that the Conch are the best in class earphones. The price is worth it just for the amazing accessories!

[@Jaawaudio]

Yeah it's a gem, unfortunately I think people are apprehensive about TRN, even though they've made a bunch of budget bangers

[@Helmond2017]

I had the conch, i liked the Wyvern Abyss more, had to eq the upper-mids though.

[@PipeWatts-cl1so]

Hey new sub here, really like your content, question: i have the conch, how much better are the 200 dollars range iems?aful 5 ea1000 etc. Are those a worthy upgrade or should i aim at higher prices? Thanks

[@Jaawaudio]

Hello! Firstly gratz for picking a great IEM to start with :D And yeah, there certainly are a lot of upgrade paths. But first we have to ask ourselves, what do we want from the hobby, what are we looking to get for our money? Right now, the new Simgot EA500LM is probably the best thing to buy, instead of the 200 dollar sets. I haven't heard it myself, but I trust other reviewers who praise it. And as for the estimate, of how much better the pricier sets are ..you'll get very little more, to be perfectly honest. This hobby is about making a big deal about small upgrades, and also paying big money for small upgrades. Give it some thought, I often say this is more like an adventure, and much less a smart use of money :D

[@PipeWatts-cl1so]

@@Jaawaudio thanks the reply, and yes the 500lm is getting good reviews I'll try and get that set. Hope you compare it to both price ranges 50 and 200 dollars.

[@Jaawaudio]

@@PipeWatts-cl1so Nice! Yeah I'll get mine soon, but I also have quite a big back log of IEMs to review. But it certainly is the most requested set, that people have asked me to review :)

[@MR.ROBOTVOLTRON]

These blow the EW200 out of the water in value but sound as good at least. I like its warmer tilt more than EW200. EW200 is just a tad too spicy for me compared.

[@hokagoteatimereviews]

Excellent video bro! Both look so good. Also the conch goes regularly on sale for $25, great value.

[@Jaawaudio]

Thank you! What a crazy time in the hobby 😅

[@nudibranchnotions]

Love to see the Tripowin Zonie in just about every color. Such a great cable!

[@Jaawaudio]

Zonie gang

[@jeanlucas5987]

I have an original moondrop Aria, but the openheart cable I've been using broke, so instead of getting a new cable I will get a new set. The conch offers more accesories for less money, so I'been leaning to get it, but at the same time I tought of getting the KZ ZS10 PRO X for a different and maybe more fun sound. I don't know how the conch compare to my Aria

[@Jaawaudio]

Pretty similar tuning actually, Conch has a treble peak at around 12K, while Aria's peak is at around 13.5K, so there might be a difference for you in how the treble sounds

[@warupchina]

nice video I use a chi fi set for gaming and listening to music at home and it completely ruined music for me when I'm using wireless earbuds. couldn't help but notice the cables on your sets, I got a nice cable but the copper started turning green in the past months, do you have any cable recommendations that don't break the bank, I don't want to spend more in a cable then the IEMs themselves! thanks

[@Jaawaudio]

Tripowin Zonie, I have a segment about them in my Zero2 vs Nuo video, great value upgrade cables 👍

[@warupchina]

@@Jaawaudio I'll have a look, thanks

[@wahid-lg1kk]

NiceHCK makes a nice cable with all three plug sizes in your budget, very good quality, I use one for balanced 2.5mm.

[@silvionovais2504]

😢After listening all day, I discovered that I prefer the SalNotes Zero. I've tried the black, red, and blue, and none of them appeal to me. I don't like this colorful, energetic sound signature.

[@Jaawaudio]

That's a good thing to learn though, that for your music library and personal preferences, a more relaxed tuning fits better 👍 HZsound Heart Mirror Zero might be the right one for you, in this price range 🤔

[@obodioreviews]

Love your pronounciation of the HZSound

[@Jaawaudio]

Thanks!

[@SileDevil]

that dutch accent 🤌

[@Jaawaudio]

@@SileDevil Wait, whose accent? :D

[@SileDevil]

@@Jaawaudio yours i guess lol, you are dutch arent you?

[@Jaawaudio]

@@SileDevil Finnish, from Finland 😝

[@gilangdhanianto945]

Between ew200 and conch, which has best clarity, technicality and soundstage?

[@Jaawaudio]

@@gilangdhanianto945 Conch wins, but they are both incredibly good.

[@hrod9393]

Aww, once you mentioned treble head, I was lost 😅 I'm a bass head and my current go to is the EDX Pro.

[@Jaawaudio]

If you like the EDX Pro, wait until you hear the EDX Pro X, it's a real banger

[@hrod9393]

@@Jaawaudio I saw one channels review on the Pro X. It was in Japanese so it was hard to tell details for sure 😅, but yea, if it's an improvement I'll probably get it. 👍👍

[@Jaawaudio]

@@hrod9393 You should be able to find it for less than 10 usd on Ali probably, it's a hilariously good IEM :D

[@MarkFuentes-r1b]

does the trn conch need a dongle dac?

[@Jaawaudio]

Not really, but a lot of audio from smartphones or laptops etc. isn't that great, so almost any dongle dac is better.

[@SileDevil]

Some say ew200 is pretty much endgame single dd, do you have the kefine delci? id like a comparison between ew200, conh and delci

[@Jaawaudio]

I have Delci yes, current review schedule idea is CK-D41 very soon, then Xuan Nv, then Delci, then DaVinci 👍

[@SileDevil]

@@Jaawaudio nice

[@kamrankambang7953]

The new EPZ Q1 PRO kills these two at 25-35usd. Better resolution, imaging and soundstage.

[@Jaawaudio]

Interesting, EPZ makes great sets, I will look into it when I can 😎

[@Royal_R3GALIA]

Been using the conch as my sleeping earphones since i got them. My weird shaped ears finally found its match and it doesn't hurt when I'm laying on my side so they're the most comfortable units i have after my zs3 shell got damaged.

[@ChrisGBassYT2]

AMAZING CHANNEL

[@fiddlix]

Excellent review and comparisons. Both sets I’m sure are great but I already have its big brother the ea500lm. Kudos.

[@Jaawaudio]

Much appreciated! 500LM definitely is on my list, I need to find out if it truly rivals the EA1000 😅

[@rajbasu4801]

Could you compare the ziigaat nuo and trn conch and make a separate video on it. Even if you can't, could you tell me how does the ziigaat nuo does, against trn conch.

[@Jaawaudio]

Hello, thanks for the request! I can say the Conch with the red nozzle is very similar to the Nuo, but with the other nozzles you have more spicy tunings available as well. Conch has better technicalities, but it's not night and day. Both are just great sets 👍

[@rajbasu4801]

Will you make a separate video on it or not.

[@Jaawaudio]

@@rajbasu4801 Hey, I unfortunately have time for about one video per week, and in a nutshell the video would say what I just said, up to your budget, if the nozzles and the slightly better techs are worth 10 usd more (and the Conch goes on sale sometimes for 25 usd, so get the Conch if price is right, 100%)

[@bladecup]

Nice review, really like it, choosing conch over ew200, was little bit suprise for me, got conch along with mt4 pro, and in some areas mt4 pro easy beating conch, technicly mt4 pro are closer to ew200 than conch, took me like week and half comparing ew200 and conch, and for me ew200 is easy winner, simple better iem, conch win over ew200 only in additional accessories, everything else, conch looks like stupid iem, on complex tracks, too much fatiguing, noticable bad dynamic, some crazy harash occur, and even i tried like 20-30 ear tips to correct conch, it was always fail, but community hypin this iem and i guess for beginer lvl they are kinda ok;)

[@Jaawaudio]

Preference plays a surprisingly huge part, it's completely fair picking EW200 over others, personally that would be my subjective pick as well. But the spice compared to Red nozzle Conch, will be too much for a lot of people, and EW200 is objectively more niche in that sense. My reviews will carry this consideration, for making recommendations wider, but also explaining why. Similarly Zero2 gets rec before Nuo, because of the treble. All top of the market, EW200, Conch, Nuo, Zero2. Thank you for your thoughts!

[@voidtv6149]

How about Artti R2?

[@Jaawaudio]

Artti IEMs definitely interest me, I'll see if I can grab some during March sales 👍

[@lain6889]

I saw you're using standard 2 cable on the conch, trn and kz cables have reversed polarity compared to standard 2 pin. So you're not listening to the conch as intended, reversed polarity will make treble sound more grainy and staging and imaging will be warped.

[@Jaawaudio]

As long as both sides have their polarity reversed, it matters very little. Recordings also are not in absolute phase always, so you'd actually be listening to the IEM not as intended, if you always do correct polarity. Good looking out though, thanks for the comment!

[@Siapasokongpenyamun]

For always watching anime and sometimes listening to jpop song (mainly female voices) , which one is better? Coming from castor bass & jcally jm6 pro. Or got something similar prices?

[@Jaawaudio]

Conch is better, because it's more versatile and it's also cheaper :)

[@Siapasokongpenyamun]

@@Jaawaudio if i can get ew200 for the same price, do u still recommended trn conch?

[@Jaawaudio]

@@Siapasokongpenyamun I like them both, but Conch is the winner, not just because of the price, they can often go for the same price.

[@Siapasokongpenyamun]

@@Jaawaudio tq sir for your opinion.

[@Siapasokongpenyamun]

​@@JaawaudioHow about epz q1 pro? Do u think it suitable for my preferences?

[@kosarvinpatrick]

Hello, which would you recommend for listening to Jpop or Jrock

[@Jaawaudio]

Conch, because the tuning nozzles allow to change the sound, more likely to find what you like.

[@miltongonzalez2225]

Sounds like you're a bass head. I have the ew200 and I don't think it's bright or that it lacks bass. I disagree.

[@aluerado]

Thank you for your comment, Mr. Godears. May you visit the ENT someday... someday soon Still, an opinion is an opinion, and everyone's taste is individual, thank your for yours :)

[@nanakabe]

Nah. Ew200 is shouty. Trebel is okay, but the upper mid is just too forward.

[@Jaawaudio]

Thanks for the comment! EW200 is generally described as shouty, as the vocal forwardness in the upper mids at +10dB 3K-5K , and also bright, because of the considerable +10dB peak at 14K. Audio is subjective, so not everyone will be averse to these, but as a reviewer I have to point them out, as those features aren't the majority's cup of tea.

[@philipm.4738]

Good discussion. For me , I find it pretty hot in the highs. I totally understand why people love them. But I find I listen to them for about 5 minutes and then switch to something else warmer that I enjoy more. But worth all the accolades!

[@bigbean7273]

i realize a huge majority of the community and people honestly, are very treble sensitive (im not tho)