Simgot SuperMix 4 IEM Review - A New FPS Gaming King?

[@chillstep4life]

Hi Gadgetry Tech would you ever consider making an IEM or Headphone tier list. Since you get to try so many IEM & headphones a tier list would be awesome.

[@brssnkl]

I would love to hear more about your favorite IEMs for CS2 or Valorant. Best IEMs at different price tiers for couple of game genres sounds like a video I would watch

[@Raphael94Nazare]

me too

[@Serenity_-_]

+

[@ptpoul]

Looking forward to an honest review. You are one of the honest guys 💪

[@btmac69]

Excellent job as usual. You explained it perfectly for a non-audiophile looking for a gaming IEM under $200. Keep up the great content.

[@marksr12]

First review I have seen from you...Absolutely Fantastic!!! The comparisons to other IEM's provide an invaluable amount of information. Thanks, and I'm a new subscriber.

[@KodiakGrizzy]

So you talked about cables at the beginning of your video and how there are better options out there than some stock IEM ones. Can you please do a video on IEM cable suggestions? Or even what type of cable materials we should be looking for when shopping for one.

[@GadgetryTech]

Sure think! I typically like OFC cables (oxygen free copper). A great budget pick are the Linsoul Tripowin cables. Just make sure you get the right termination for your IEMs

[@jello2tube]

Thank you...this is great. I might have to get this for gaming..

[@Frank_P83]

SM4 are my new daily drivers, love everything about them, until the next budget King :) thanks for the review

[@TheWorldTeacher]

I'm planning to buy a pair soon, so I thank you for this review, Joseph!

[@MikeJB6]

Great review. I am going to give the SuperMix 4 a try. Could you recommend a decent DAC/Amp combo to use with these IEMs, please?

[@Solo_Dolo96]

Great review! Patiently waiting for that Apex EQ...... :)

[@GadgetryTech]

I'm trying so hard to wrap it up haha

[@KuzoriAkuzo]

@@GadgetryTech What is ur best IEM for gaming especially Valorant and watching movies max price 370 euro's????

[@29esther30]

@@GadgetryTech Are these the best of the best if not what do you suggest i was thinking about the new moondrop Crinacle dusk

[@oneill7169]

@gadgetrytech i currently have the Kiwi ears orchestra lite that i use for cod/warzone would the supermix 4 be a downgrade? Looking for good soundstage and details. Thank you

[@gingi_swagg9304]

I know you’ve mentioned before that you have them en route, but I can’t wait to see how the ZiiGatt Arete compares to the Supermix 4. Trying to decide between these two as my next IEM

[@GadgetryTech]

I'll definitely compare them to eachother!

[@Patife_PT]

Add the same indecision. The Linsoul Sale decided for me. Ended up buying the Supermix 4 for $135. Still waiting for the Arete review tough, hope it doesn't make me regret my decision.

[@drip1orddior]

i appreciate your videos brother, just prerordered these. looking forward to trying your apex eq in pred lobbies 👀👀

[@zertbrown4642]

thanks for showing the nozzle diameter/bore

[@ddominickk]

These iems are absolutely insane combined with spinfit w1 tips

[@elijahpalmer6323]

Small bore … thats what she used to call me 😢

[@GadgetryTech]

LOL

[@alpharorschach8708]

Oh Lord, best joke I've heard in some time, good job 😂

[@yaroslavyarchee9906]

I play COD and was lucky to test both sm4 and em6l and what I’ve noticed is that with em6l’s I pick the directional sounds like footsteps better. Left, right and behind are about the same, but em6l really shines when you need to hear footsteps above or below. Like I could pinpoint which floor of a building an enemy was on in these

[@yaroslavyarchee9906]

But I enjoyed sm4’s more for music and everyday use

[@JagsP95]

Any plans to review ziigaat x fresh arete?

[@GadgetryTech]

Yes I have a set coming!

[@equiknox_]

​@@GadgetryTechlooking forward to it

[@hubrisir7646]

Regarding the Orchestra Lite comparison (ignoring the price difference and sound profile because of EQ), are they superior in terms of imaging, depth, layering and resolution to the Supermix 4 for FPS gaming?

[@Austincm512]

@gadgetrytech

[@eboboboy]

from my POV, simply Supermix 4 is more bassy. If you prefer sound clarity, Orchestra Lite would be better.

[@amanieux]

you say sm4 has more details than em6l but for those who already have a em6l, is sm4 a significant enough upgrade for music listening that justify buying sm4 ?

[@TheModeRed]

It does have significantly more detail but em61 is darker and more syrup, which you may find more musical. SM4 is more revealing and analytical. It had more to work with of you have access to PEQ and filters. I think it games better bc of the detail.

[@amanieux]

@@TheModeRed i ended up buying sm4, and i concur that em6L is warmer and sm4 more analytical, so i prefer em6L

[@TheModeRed]

@@amanieux over eq'd up my bass and mids and down my highs just slightly so I can listen with richness at higher volumes. Then I still get the details

[@ZedOptimisation]

SuperMix 4 or Arete? I’m so torn if the Arete is worth the price gap. Show me the light 💡

[@endorphinADMIN]

excellent review, glad you brought out the volare and megafest (they're both on my list to acquire), however, just like you i can't stand the ear tip extension with NO LIP - i would pass on this set just because of that, can't stand pulling out silicone tips stuck in my ear canals

[@VoltDamage-o3x]

Great video! A bit late to the party, but can you tell me if they emphasize cymbals ? And if those cymbals sound sharp That’s one area I don’t like the sound be emphasized, from measure standpoint the nova seems better but I also can get sm4 for 89€ so idk

[@killjoy_5106]

Great review. Are you going to do the p1 max 2 you think?

[@gigolocalypsetv5520]

Pros/ cons still have me highly interested but I'm also interested in that IEM tree. I found myself looking at that throughout the vid!

[@GadgetryTech]

Haha, thanks! This is the jewelry tree I purchased! amzn.to/3RatITz

[@HungNguyen-cj6wv]

Hi Gadgetry, I have EM6L and do you think it is a good choice to upgrade to Supermix4? I normally use them to play Apex Legends, and pop/mainstream music

[@imdeadnahuy]

of course not

[@xzerts1938]

@GadetryTech Noob here, but if I run these through my schiit magni will the output impedance be detrimental to my experience?

[@Frank_P83]

The EM6L is my daily driver for COD, wonder if I should upgrade to the super mix 4 or stick with them and wait for a next more affordable budget pair ?

[@dujankees]

100% agree, using eq to lift certain freq causes perceptible distortion, at least in my experience. EQ is better suited to reduce a specific frequency, especially with less quality or less capable drivers imo

[@GadgetryTech]

Yup! Ideally you want to reduce, not add

[@jmvm8714]

Is there a possibility of including a microphone with a cable?

[@DrTopLiftDPT]

i got the em6l 103$ you were referring to vs the 150$ super mix. Funny art of war seemed to hate the em6l, seemed highly biased though.

[@hillbillyjustice8213]

Maybe in part because they may not have worked as well with his audio tune for cod(absolutely game changing) but more likely they pushed him off because the tips kept coming off in his ear because they don’t have a lip to keep the tips on. He definitely didn’t care for them tho lol

[@nickb365]

Any eartips you recommend for the supermix 4?

[@eviarada]

What IEM would you recommend for playing online FPS games like cod on Consoles exclusively (PS5/XSX)? Also, which Mic add-on can you recommend? I'm always talking to friends on party chat. I was looking into SuperMix 4 for IEM and either Tripowin C8 Or Antlion Kimura For a mic. I also rather not mess with EQ and i'm not sure if it's possible on consoles too.

[@iuliani1663]

Yo, Joe! Will you take a look at the Sennheiser 620S as well?

[@binodynamic]

Would an apple dongle do the job? Also is there more base with these compared to the EM6L?

[@lee-tm6my]

So for general use which ones would you pick, for any game, music listening just everything. EM6L or SM4 ?

[@ari-athbadminton0301]

EM6L is more balanced to other uses, tonality is not as metallic as the supermix4.

[@mertyorulmaz2033]

Great review, thank a lot. Do you think the Fiio KA11 dongle dac is suitable for Supermix4?

[@GadgetryTech]

It's absolutely more than enough! That will be a great pairing

[@rorytaylor626]

Thanks for comparing these to the Orchestra Lites. Art_Of_War won't shut up about them. Anyone that plays Warzone should check out his channel btw. Anyway, I'm getting close to pulling the trig, and you've given me something to consider. Especially for about half the price. On a semi-related note, a round up video of desktop mics would be dope. $0 - $50, $50 - $100, and $100+. 🙏🙏🙏

[@GadgetryTech]

I actually having something coming not too far down the road on mics. After using both, I prefer the SuperMix 4 over the Kiwi Orchestra Lite. The Lites sound really nice but the comfort can be an issue for some.

[@hillbillyjustice8213]

@@GadgetryTechhey man. When u do the mic roundup, try to throw in the fifine am8. It’s a usb/xlr dynamic mic so it cuts down a lot of background/room sound. It’s only 16/44100 with the headphone output but the mic sounds better than anything I’ve heard in the $50 range. I think it’s like 54.99. I bought one for me, one for my son and my nephew put his quadcast up and switched to it. Definitely worth a look for a budget option.

[@seanryu5214]

What software do you recommend for eq tweaking? Or perhaps hardware.

[@ravantgarde1899]

What ear tips are you using with these?

[@Meglerc]

Hi Joe, do you think that switching from Nova 7 to SuperMix 4 makes sense? I'm gonna use SuperMix 4 with SoundBlaster G6 and I mainly play Rainbow 6 and fps games.

[@MalandraPugh]

Great Review! Would love for you to review the Davinci and the EM10.

[@Quatum8]

Hey! I was wondering if you'd recommend the EM6L or the Supermix 4 with an apple dongle without additional EQ for R6?

[@nikhilchandra3778]

The most common and major problem with all the Simgot's are the metallic timbre and thin sounding vocals. The only reason I buy them is for the detail retrieval and built quality but they are major no for Vocal centric music.

[@dachness]

For COD Warzone using your custom EQ would you recommend the Supermix over the EM6L?

[@Erdinator117]

Dude for games like warzone you can use 20 bucks headphones... it doesnt mather!

[@eviarada]

@@Erdinator117 Imaging is important, i'm not sure a 20$ IEM's can do the same job as a 100+$ IEM, also comfort and build quality is important too.

[@Erdinator117]

@@eviarada not for warzone

[@Raynoxfps]

@@Erdinator117tell me you have no clue without telling me

[@Erdinator117]

@@RaynoxfpsWarzone Fanboys everywhere... its COD... a casual shooter trying to be competetive. Even some CS players use simple Earbuds for gaming so please relax.

[@blak3420]

On the SuperMix 4 what eq band do you mess with for apex specifically?

[@29esther30]

Are these the best of the best if not what do you suggest i was thinking about the new moondrop Crinacle dusk

[@naturalfps]

Great video man. Pretty sure I'm gonna get these as my first pair of IEMs. I mainly play Hunt Showdown right now. Do you happen to have a video on how to EQ headphones/IEMs for games?

[@ptpoul]

I am chasing something with a bit less bass and subbass with just 1-2 db more midbass. Just tubfill out the mids and male voices. Treble forward and extension is ok for me though. I am not sensitive to that without being partially deaf, yet.

[@GadgetryTech]

Sounds like the EM6L from Simgot is better suited for you. They are still wonderful IEMs

[@jackfahlqvist2114]

Is these good for fotsteps

[@billleshreds]

I can’t wait for Fortnite EQ review !

[@GadgetryTech]

Thanks! Atm my Apex one should drop tomorrow or Monday. Then it's Xdefiant, then Fortnite :)

[@unyeleman]

Would these be a sizable upgrade from truthear hexas or is it not much of a margin?

[@jello2tube]

Do you think these would be good for story games as well?

[@thereaperscoming]

Hey Joe what change if anything? I caught your live stream and you seem not to be feeling these IEM 😅. You went back and forth with other IEMs and it seemed that there was something in the sound that was throwing you off. Did eq do the trick? Just curious on how you went about it. I play Apex most of the times, plus I have no way to eq them so I'll be patiently waiting to see if something else pops up. Thank you for all your hard work and as many have stated you're really one of the most honest youtubers.

[@GadgetryTech]

So I had been messing around with showing a demo of Sonar right before I unboxed those! When I switched to my IEM amp, a generic game target was active and it was peaking the treble even further when in call of duty. When I took measurements, it bypasses Sonar so the measurement still seemed normal. That was a byproduct of listening for something for the first time while in game and not having a baseline to go off of lol. My Apex vid drops as soon as tomorro! Goal is Sunday, but it will be out by Monday I feel.

[@ari-athbadminton0301]

I have issues with metallic timbre so those will be a hard pass. However I do wonder how some EQ could balance them out so they could be tonally fixed while keeping their technicalities. Tonality is as important as layering for gaming imo to be honest because the sounds in game can be overwhelming loud and fatiguing. That's where the Hype4 shine but that's another price tag. At 150€ I would still pick Myer SL41 over the Supermix4 no question !

[@falcodarkzz]

They dont have metallic timbre, i have them. My focal clear are more metallic, and theyre ref quality

[@artic_ac6898]

Hi sir, I recently bought the EM6L after seeing your 2024 roundup video for gaming audio. I have been regularly using them by directly connect the jack into my laptops audio port. In addition, I came from the Nova 7s you recommended using your custom EQ. Overall the EM6L work great and I love them. The only thing is that some games like valorant, the guns are quite bassy and it makes the other sound less pronounced. Also, I can’t hear the fine detail/environment I do on my nova 7 (I expected this though). I was wondering if you or any of the viewers here had any suggestions or maybe an EQ I can try within the sonar software. Also, I guess should I even still be using it (as of now the nova 7 EQ is disabled). Btw I am not an audio person lol. I play many tac shooters and FPS. Thank you

[@GadgetryTech]

I think this got answered in my Discord server, but i wanted to agree with what was said there. Typically a bass boost comes from high output impedance, and even a cheaper $10 apple dongle is all you need to solve that problem. It's a good start at least. Additionally, Valorant is a fairly bass-heavy game. So you may want to pull some bass down with EQ to help clean it up.

[@artic_ac6898]

@@GadgetryTech thanks for your reply. I ordered an apple dongle and I’ll let you know, I will even play around in sonar and maybe recur the bass a few notches

[@hillbillyjustice8213]

@@artic_ac6898+1 for the apple dongle. Much better than laptop audio.

[@artembaloo3710]

@@artic_ac6898 is apple dongle helps u?

[@mutdog2184]

Would you recommend the eml6 or supermix 4 for rainbow six siege?

[@maltakar9879]

Check Freshreviews out, he did a comparison of all simgot IEM’s and he basically put the above all for R6 Siege

[@olternaut]

On a side note, I was thinking of pairing a good IEM (whichever I decide on) with a good DAC with mic input. I was thinking of the Schiit Hel+ but they seem to be out of stock and they are not returning my email. I'm a bit concerned there. EDIT: Just heard back from Schiit. Apparently they have no idea when the Hel will be back in stock...in case anybody wanted to know.

[@GadgetryTech]

If they are having stock issues, I'd seriously consider the Creative G5 or Qudelix 5K in that sub $200 price range. Both are still great picks!

[@olternaut]

@@GadgetryTech I considered the G5 but most reviews had it as a jack of all trades but master of none. Whereas the Hel+ seemed focused as a good DAC. What do you think? I'll investigate the Qudelix 5K. Thanks.

[@dagger_4d]

How would you recommend tuning these on a digital mixer?

[@AquaticBehr]

My music is all over the place but mostly pop punk and some country. I also do a lot of gaming but only fls is valorant. Are there a good iem for those or should I go with something else? And what dac / Amp would you recommend up to $200

[@attemptityourself5662]

In your graph what is the output impedance on the "High Out Impedance" graph? Looking at these all for fps gaming. Ive got other audio devices for music and story games.

[@spaiderr]

Simgot SuperMix 4 or Simgot EM6L for cs2, valorant, fortnite, pubg, maybe dota 2 Which headphones would be more versatile? Subtitles translate poorly and it's hard to read 20 minutes of it

[@JagsP95]

Tested both and you can save money and buy em6l. Its not a drastic difference for games only music.

[@ericmartinez5051]

Splendor 2, Supermix 4, or ziigaat x Fresh arete for COD?

[@Raynoxfps]

Currently have the splendor 2, i ordered the supermix4 to test them

[@JLx22]

any experience with Aful Explorer, Truthear Nova, or Myer Audio CKVLX compared to these? competitive gaming mainly, thanks

[@Wingmeal]

These sound fantastic but unfortunately had to return mine due to the curved shell shape pressing really awkwardly in my ear, great if you don't have this issue though

[@_irietek_]

Looking for a decent qdc boom mic! any recommendations? :)

[@Brian-qo8bq]

Do you have a favourite IEM for single player gaming? Something with an immersive sound

[@Fanboyyyyyyyyyy]

I play Apex Legends on ps4, would these be better or worse than my current HyperX Cloud 2's? I want to use them for both Apex and listening to music. If not then would something like Simgot EA500LM be better?

[@TheMediano]

Any sonar EQ for footsteps Cod for supermix4? :)

[@FamiliOfficeDotCom]

Hello Brother Please rank 1,2,3,4,5 which iem you like most & give valid reasons why : ✅ KZ Castor Bass ✅ KZ D-Fi Switch ✅ KZ Vader ✅ CCA Duo ✅ CCA Rhapsody 1 = the best 5 = the worst

[@IMF1821]

Great review. Would love to see you review some of sennheisers IE series (200,300,600).

[@GadgetryTech]

I'd love to one day. They aren't cheap and Sennheiser hasn't returned messages so I'll either have to buy or find another means

[@IMF1821]

@@GadgetryTech I’d be happy to lend you the 600 for testing.

[@GadgetryTech]

Appreciate it! I have a couple secondary options for getting them, but that's very kind of you to offer that.

[@CN-ct6oy]

hey, between the cloud 3 wireless, cloud 3 wired and the Logitech gpro x2 which one you would choose and why to play on console with your friends?

[@itsdmn1]

So I'm still kinda new to the iem world, my setup has always been HD58X plugged into my goxlr mini, recently started using IEMS, right now I'm using the tangzu fudu verse 1 but listening you talk about EQ makes me wonder if I can make them sound even better, do I need to download a program for it, how does it work?

[@MrGluGlu]

Do you have a measurement of the nozzle diameter for the SM4?

[@ChangoFrett]

...did you watch the video?

[@Patife_PT]

Can you please share your recommended EQ for this Set? I just ordered it on the Linsoul Sale. You sir are awesome!

[@J0hnnybg00d]

I only play Apex legends. Which would be the best IEMs for that?

[@blindman8093]

any ear tip recommendation dor supermix4?

[@BohmanderTCG]

is the Tangzu Xuan NV good for gaming?

[@ronald0122]

what dongle/dac would you recommend to use this? i play cs2 and i want to buy an iem like this or the em6l

[@jamesstevens968]

Hi joe I hope your feeling better today I play on ps5 only and I ordered the focal elex for gaming audio for ps5 how are they are they mostly for music do you think I made a mistake are they good for story games thank you stay safe and happy gaming to all

[@GadgetryTech]

Dude, I'm really enjoying the Elex! Such a wonderful headphone and works great on so many things, both music and gaming included! I think you'll love it.

[@nimeshjaiswal9388]

What would you recommend Truthear x Crinacle Zero Red ($66), Simgot's EM6L ($131.5), or Sennheiser HD 560S ($174) for gaming, if these prices are to be considered in my region ?

[@Raphael94Nazare]

EM6L or Supermix 4 for valorant and CS2?

[@Rustydude2030]

interested in both the em6l and the supermix4, maybe kiwi quartet too, for my first pair of IEMs. Switching from Nova 7. $100+ is kind of more than I wanted to spend on my first toe dip into IEM pool. Do you have like a ~$50ish best for gaming IEM? I see the KZ s10 pro is also a 1DD, 4BA system like the em6L. Wondering how close it gets in performance for half the price...

[@tomaszgrabarczyk655]

For $50-ish get Truthear Zero Red and see if IEMs are your cup of tea. If you enjoy it - start saving money for an upgrade. No use in jumping straight to $100+ IEMs if you don't even know if you will or won't experience the ear fatigue (both sound-wise and comfort-wise)

[@kennynguyen4142]

Hey my friend, do you recommend the supermix4 or the Steelseries artic nova pro for gaming?

[@Z3X.Gaming]

Nova pros sucks! I have them. At least for COD they suck

[@novazenith]

Would these be a good pair with the steelseries gamedac 2

[@afgainzfinest]

Do i need to buy an amp or something else or can i just plug them into my laptop to game? This is going to be my first IEM THANK U

[@theotaycojr]

Hey man! Love your videos! i just bought KZ ZS10 Pro 2, but its not in your IEM list for warzone Auto EQ. How can I try it?

[@hubrisir7646]

You can export the Warzone target and upload it to other people's lists to Auto EQ.

[@DanielAshman]

hey joe, do you have the hesuvi eq update for these?

[@nyrOx187]

I bought the Supermix 4 and use it with a DAC (Creativ Sound Blaster Play!3). I don't know why the Supermix 4 are so super quiet. Please help!

[@haskell3702]

I would like it to have 4.4 bal connector

[@mghalman7962]

Please can u tell us when u say gaming king if your are talking about Gear phone/iem or juste about iem, because i think we have not the same benefit when we use iem for gaming, the sound can be pretty smouth but about spacialisation and precision i think we cant have the same result, Thank you for your answer

[@anirudhmathur5555]

Is fiio ka11 a good dac for this iem?, just pre-ordered these

[@olternaut]

How does this compare to the Orchestra Lites....especially when playing Escape from Tarkov where sound is critical. EDIT: watching now further....I don't think the supermix 4 is what I'm looking for. I'm still looking for a product similar in performance with the Orchestra Lites but with more comfort. If I'm not mistaken, the supermix seems to have a few problems with sound performance and they are not vented. Same problems as the Orchestra Lites but not on it's level of performance.

[@GadgetryTech]

I feel that the SuperMix 4 is overall a better value for Tarkov. They are also more comfortable which I could argue is just as important here

[@olternaut]

@@GadgetryTech Value is important as well as the comfort which is why I didn't impulse buy the Orchestra Lites. But I'm going by the many many reviews I've read and seen about the Orchestra Lites which tout it's very impressive use in gaming with it's distinct sound profile. In that respect I haven't seen another pair of IEMs rated higher. Although, all reviews seem to agree about the Lites problems with comfort and it not being vented. This leaves me frustrated. I want the performance and the comfort (in around the same price range)....at least something approaching the specific performance but vented. Perhaps some of your untested products will fit the bill. Waiting to see.

[@olternaut]

@@GadgetryTech Please put the Moondrop Katos on your list with an emphasis on gaming vs the Orchestra Lites....unless you have already reviewed them and I missed it.

[@AwwMizi]

@@olternautdid you ever find good iems for tarkov

[@olternaut]

@@AwwMizi Without spending too much money I bought the Antlion Kimuro duo with built mic to test to see how I like in-ear monitors. They are not bad. It's a good solution but not as good as more expensive IEMs. But I may switch to the Audeze Maxwell headphones because I'm not sure my ear canals are comfortable with the monitors.

[@Dmncatalin]

how does this compare to ew200/ew300 for apex?

[@spiritsniper231]

I was wondering what is a good mmcx iem to use with the kimura microphone cable in fps games?

[@JoseGonzalezTapia-d2d]

Do you recomend any eq profile in Hesuvi?

[@GadgetryTech]

I've never used Hesuvi. So sorry!

[@CursezZz]

i have simgot em6l and truthear nova im looking to move on to something different, what should i try?

[@Coopsieeee]

These, the Em6L or orchestra lites?

[@wali8253]

this vs aful performer 5?

[@jello2tube]

hi - are these smaller than em6L?