MSFS | IMPROVE YOUR VR PERFORMANCE | More FPS | OpenXR Toolkit

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SimHanger Flight Simulation

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@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
NIS Scaler has been updated and is now called the OpenXR Toolkit. In this video I put it to the test and it delivers.
@joejoe2658
@joejoe2658 2 жыл бұрын
i think a TLDW at the start of that comment would help. currently it implies things have changed again since you uploaded it...
@richardwalter3110
@richardwalter3110 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...I'm not the only one. The reverb g2 moves with my heart beat as well! I only notice it when I keep my head very still.
@Harryguitar58
@Harryguitar58 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect stuff, Marc. Thank you. Your Open XR Toolkit settings are perfect for my RTX 3070 and I get 40 FPS. And you are right:NIS works better for the 3070
@martygenska8117
@martygenska8117 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your latest videos I'm sold on the HP Reverb G2 (ordered one today directly thru HP).
@Aj-vg7fp
@Aj-vg7fp 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual!finaly after suffering for a month watching more than 100 hours of KZbin you are the best out there , thank you 🙏🏻 GPU 3070 passed perfectly using your settings
@ervmoore1111
@ervmoore1111 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks much Mark, good stuff. Being a new VR chap, this stuff is way above my head. When I plugged in the new Oculus Quest 2 last week, thought MSFS looked good with little shaking in cockpit but since with bunch of tweaking, gone down hill. Wish I could get have of your clarity. I would be a happy camper. Anyway, appreciate you sharing!!
@jjohnson1667
@jjohnson1667 2 жыл бұрын
Do keep in mind, when looking at a KZbin video, it’s just a mirror of what he sees but it’s not exactly what you’re seeing through the lens. Mark would have to video with a device through the actual lens in order to see the clarity, and even then it’s not quite accurate.
@ksks6802
@ksks6802 2 жыл бұрын
This is how its done. Good job. Been watching for awhile. Much appreciated
@markcunneen5982
@markcunneen5982 2 жыл бұрын
Another informative video Mark, thanks... please support this channel.
@OriginalSnkKid
@OriginalSnkKid 2 жыл бұрын
Though I'm not a flight sim person (maybe one day) as someone doing OpenXR dev, I was never aware of this OpenXR layer, very cool.
@sascenturion
@sascenturion 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff Mark ..thanks I've watched several reviews of this "Toolkit" .. And to be honest im finding it hard to nail down any improvements this makes to me. But i will keep searching for the optimal settings for my system ( 8700k cpu oc to 4.7ghz , 3080ti ,32gb ,i realise at the moment my cpu is the bottleneck) Cheers again
@kennykanada
@kennykanada 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Still getting jaggies in the HP when I fly near or into dense scenery areas. No settings or applications in the past year has eliminated this issue. (i7-10700, rtx3080, 32G)
@ParallaxEffect
@ParallaxEffect 2 жыл бұрын
CPU
@kennykanada
@kennykanada 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParallaxEffect I’m running an i7 with a 1050 power supply. Please explain “CPU”? Thx!
@ParallaxEffect
@ParallaxEffect 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennykanada MSFS is single threaded. your CPU is 40% slower than the fastest available today. It will struggle in high object count areas (as you noted). I have a 12900k and it kicks into overdrive when I am in dense areas, and I still get the odd stutter. PSU doesn't matter.
@kennykanada
@kennykanada 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParallaxEffect But its ok in 2D. It’s only with the G2 in VR.
@ParallaxEffect
@ParallaxEffect 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennykanada object positioning is harder for 2xhigh resolution displays (each eye) vs one low res on (your 2d monitor) even for CPU
@pete2398
@pete2398 2 жыл бұрын
Hello is Thier a setting in this toolkit for focusing. I have a oculus and cockpit and runways seem to be out of focus
@falcony100
@falcony100 2 жыл бұрын
I’m having problem to get the top center tool bar in VR…. Need help 🙏🏻
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Use the TAB key. See this video, it covers this and may help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqbRZKKvn8ZqeJo
@falcony100
@falcony100 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS thank you very much 🙏🏻👍🏻 Sir
@riddle609
@riddle609 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of these VR videos. Recently purchased the Oculus 2 Quest. Although, your recent VR videos are geared towards MSFS, I believe you used to be a P3d guy? Strangely enough, I find better results flying VR in my P3d v5.1, than I do with MSFS 2020. Just better clarity. I also can see my AI traffic (UTL) through the headset, although I keep on very low setting. I'm not a computer wiz, but maybe since I'm using a Nvida 1080, it responds better to the older tooling of P3d, vs MSFS?? My system is Core i7 8700k 3.7 ghz, 32 gig ram. I was wondering if you've recently looked at the difference in VR between the 2 sims??? I have followed many of your suggestions for MSFS 2020, although I still can't get my mixed reality out of the "connect to headset" mode. Have updated Windows 10, and reinstalled mixed reality 2-3 times. Can't get it going. I would love to have a 3080 video card. But, just not in the budget at this time. Thanks!
@gordicesdogreens4563
@gordicesdogreens4563 2 жыл бұрын
When I enter VR my throttle stops working correctly, when I move it forward, its goes into reverse, reversing the axis does not work..as soon as I leave VR back into 2D, works fine. Any clue why this is? I have a Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG
@Part_121
@Part_121 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea what the Oculus equivalent is to the OpenXR Developer Tools Custom Render Scale? I know that motion reprojection is approximately equivalent to Oculus ASW (Asynchronous SpaceWarp) and can be found in the Oculus Debug Tool, but there is no obvious scaling tool in the Oculus Debug Tool so I am not sure how I can make sure that there is no scaling happening outside of this new OpenXR Toolkit tool. All I can do is set the MSFS 2020 in-game scaling to 100% and hope that Oculus is not doing any other type of scaling on its own. With all these places to make settings adjustments, you need a phd in knob twiddling to use VR these days.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
This tool will work with Oculus on OpenXR apps to some degree
@Part_121
@Part_121 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS Yes, I'm using it, just can't figure out how to make sure I'm using it effectively. Just trying to track down all places, in all the associated software, where image scaling should be set to 100%. I have the in-sim resolution set to 100% but am afraid that something in the oculus chain will adjust that before it makes its way to the OpenXR Toolkit scaler. So far, no one (that I'm aware of) has made a video addressing OpenXR Toolkit with Oculus HMDs.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
@@Part_121 check out this video, includes some Oculus settings 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXW3oHV6n52Vlbc
@Part_121
@Part_121 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS Thanks! I had been searching via the new name (OpenXR Toolkit) so I didn't notice that video listed as NIS Scaler. Makes sense though and gives me a better starting point.
@jjohnson1667
@jjohnson1667 2 жыл бұрын
I too have a 10900k/3090, funny thing is I get smoother results with 90%/20%, than with 85%/30%. Could be the sharpness is too much, haven’t tested 85%/20% yet.
@icanhaskpop1239
@icanhaskpop1239 2 жыл бұрын
After sim update #8 came out, I saw a major improvement to VR performance and quality and I'm getting more than 40 fps on my RTX 3080 without any VR-specific tools or apps running.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Great news, I have seen an improvement too.👍
@PatJones82
@PatJones82 2 жыл бұрын
My G2 version 2 headset was making me sick with all the tiny fast screen movements with my head being held as still as possible. Prediction Dampening saved me and made a HUGE difference once I put that setting in the minus numbers (-40 or so).
@timtoomuch
@timtoomuch 2 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for video but I'm having an issue with open xr toolkit when I try to enter msfs I get an error message no open xr installed or detected but if I disable the toolkit no issues msfs vr works like normal also if I check my registry the correct path looks to be right any help would be appreciated
@marcosa995
@marcosa995 2 жыл бұрын
Hi MARK , I did install all tool kit and windows reality , however the main Menu does not open using the Cont +F keys. DO I have to install Steam VR ? I have a Quest 2 . Thanks for you feedback.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, the toolkit only works with headsets that use OpenXR as the primary interface. Not Oculus. Works with Steam headsets such as Pimax.
@stevensadowski1
@stevensadowski1 2 жыл бұрын
Does work for me make my picture distorted?
@ur_round_next1216
@ur_round_next1216 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark do you lock your frames in the Nvidia control panel to 36fps of do you have it unlocked thx
@PascalQNH2992
@PascalQNH2992 2 жыл бұрын
Open XR Toolkit does not want to open in my Meta Quest 2 in VR modus in FS. Where is this problem caused?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Check here for details mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/compat.html
@johnwalsh1879
@johnwalsh1879 2 жыл бұрын
Just a quick question does the openxr toolkit work with virtual desktop and could you please do a tutorial on how to actually download openxr and get it running with virtual desktop thanks for everything
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
No it does not support Virtual Desktop unfortunately.
@martygenska8117
@martygenska8117 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm trying. I got my G2 the other day and it was amazingly easy to set up. I've followed all your videos on ideas for performance settings, and while I can get 32fps (via OpenVR) the sharpness seems off. What settings do you recommend I look at to address my sharpness issues? Is it because I wear bi-focal lenses? I've also tried it while wearing no glasses. Also, is there a 'transparent' option on the G2? For example, with the Oculus Quest you can step outside the 'play' area and get a grayed-out view of the room. It would be handy to have this option, so I don't have to take off the headset to type something on the keyboard.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
There is no ‘’see through’’ mode on the G2. I will be updating my settings in my Essential VR series of videos over the next few weeks, so stay tuned. Also check out my OpenXR Toolkit video. It may help.
@martygenska8117
@martygenska8117 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS Thanks! I should have mentioned that it's also running on a HP Omen Ryzen 7 with 16GB, 1TB SSD and a Nvidia RTX 3060 w/ 8TB. I'll watch your OpenXR Toolkit video again. Also, as there is no 'see-thru' mode, how do you handle using your peripherals (yoke, switches, radio module, etc.) when in VR? For me it's just touch/feel, but that for me seems abnormal. I guess as a private pilot who fly's C172s' and Piper Cherokees I generally do know where things are without looking all around for them, so maybe it's just a learning thing :)
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
@@martygenska8117 yes I use memory to use throttle & yoke etc.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 2 жыл бұрын
well the CTRL+F2 does nothing, what now? I get the yellow message when entering VR, checked the API layer is running in OPENXR, Reverb G2, Ryzen 5 3600, RTX3090...
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure the box is checked for ctrl key in the desktop app.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS yes it is,I even tested ctrl and alt checked in, so there is no interference with game controls. Tested Safe mode also, no luck. Would be great if there would be some editable config file...
@ShugarJunki
@ShugarJunki 2 жыл бұрын
newb here. Thanks for this video. It seems I had to download open XR developer tools as well, but still cant seem to get the menu to pop up so I can adjust settings. Ctrl-F2 doesnt do anything, operating with steam VR and a varjo aero if thats helpful info at all. Any help would be amazing. Thanks in advance.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, don’t use steam vr use Windows Mixed Reality….WMR
@kudoeedney9324
@kudoeedney9324 2 жыл бұрын
How do I get it to appear in my headset or launch
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Ctrl F2 once in VR. Instructions are on the desktop app as shown in the video
@exileaviation
@exileaviation 2 жыл бұрын
I am getting so mad, because whenever I set the Runtime to OpenXR, it says no headset detected. Tried going into oculus and steam and setting those as the runtime, but that also did not work. Headset is a Oculus Rift S.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I don’t use Oculus hardware, but check out VR FLIGHTSIM GUY he did some setting videos last year for this kzbin.info
@HelmutBemboka
@HelmutBemboka 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't those buttons normally used for mixture or something?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
No they aren’t.
@HelmutBemboka
@HelmutBemboka 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS ok great. Thanks!
@bulldog282
@bulldog282 2 жыл бұрын
Will the toolkit work with DCS?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tried it with DCS yet. Sorry.
@user_16309
@user_16309 2 жыл бұрын
Sir does this apply to the Valve Index? Thanks.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Applies to any headset using OpenXR. If using OpenVR in stream then no it does not.
@naijapilotxmax6006
@naijapilotxmax6006 2 жыл бұрын
you have a powerful gpu
@mostafamirzaei3235
@mostafamirzaei3235 2 жыл бұрын
Is this works in DCS WORLD ? sir
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
I have not tried it in DCS, so not sure.
@citizenblue
@citizenblue 2 жыл бұрын
What would you call a r7 3700x/2080 Super/32GB DDR4/NVME SSD? Is that medium spec these days?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the upper level of medium.
@bangjoeofficial
@bangjoeofficial 2 жыл бұрын
We have a nearly exact set up. How's your performance been?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
@@bangjoeofficial performance has been good 😊
@citizenblue
@citizenblue 2 жыл бұрын
@@bangjoeofficial if you're asking me, pretty good with my Reverb G2. I sometimes get microstutters over cities, but haven't tried this video's settings yet. I also have a very poor Internet connection in my rural area.
@get_outdoors
@get_outdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Spent over 20 hours trying to get something like acceptable image quality on the Quest 2 with my new i9 12900 + RTX3080 ti, really disappointed. I’ve got a Reverb G2 due in 2 days so will be cribbing your setup 👍
@ParallaxEffect
@ParallaxEffect 2 жыл бұрын
I can get 40-45FPS at 85% render scale with a 3090 and 12900k. But I prefer 90fps with motion reproduction on, at 90% render scale.
@get_outdoors
@get_outdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParallaxEffect it’s the clarity of external objects that I’m struggling with, it just does look defined at all
@ParallaxEffect
@ParallaxEffect 2 жыл бұрын
@@get_outdoors well 90% render scale on a g2 will look the same sharpness to everyone (if you turn off in game sharpening, follow the guide etc etc). Then the q is, perhaps you think even 90% is not sharp, which, if you’re coming from xplane for example is fair. Xplane can run at a much higher render scale because it’s a simpler program. It looks sharper for sure. MSFS in my opinion has always looked blockier especially at lower scales. I mean the dials etc are fine but the world looks soft and blocky. I think it’s just because our eyes and the headset resolution ideally want it to run at 150% but not until 2025 will we have hardware that allows it ;).
@fingerhorn4
@fingerhorn4 2 жыл бұрын
@TobyDarkZero I too have a Quest 2 and after spending days and days trying to improve the image quality, I have given up. It is simply not good enough for flightsim VR and it's not that good even for google earth, racing sims and other apps. It's just too blurred, too washed out and VERY POOR performing. I'm not convinced that the Reverb is that much better. Unfortunately it is going to take another generation before VR is viable, unless you enjoy tweaking for a living, and even then the results are very disappointing.
@ParallaxEffect
@ParallaxEffect 2 жыл бұрын
@@fingerhorn4 simply not true VR flight sim needs another generation. I have a reverb g2 and it’s incredibly sharp, and now with the color tweaks, great colors too. With re projection you can run it at 90fps. And with a good graphics card most settings on ultra or high. It looks spectacular.
@fingerhorn4
@fingerhorn4 2 жыл бұрын
However noble XR toolkit is, and all the other tweak tools, the fact is that VR is still light years behind what any sensible person could call useable in MSFS. It is just too jerky, too shimmery, too washed out, too shakey, too headachy, a right pain to set up, a complete pain to troubleshoot, far too expensive, and nowhere near being good enough. For the same amount of cash layout, I could buy a fantastic 52 inch monitor and have cash to spare for extra controllers, gizmos, double my RAM, upgrade my GPU, upgrade my CPU and it still would not cost anywhere near the top-end VR headset prices. I feel the whole methodology of producing a 3d moving image is just not working and needs a radical re-think.
@peterdepra
@peterdepra 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, for me too much intricate [and initially non-essential] detail leading to conclusion it's all too much bother. IMO anybody that follows all that lot doesn't need the video. When I'm trying to learn something new, I'm a KISS man. YMMV
@ksks6802
@ksks6802 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it looks like shit. Frames are nice tho. Thanks anyways ❤
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