Simon Jordan Vs Russell Brand | Football Is Nice

Welcome to Football is Nice with me, Russell Brand. This week, I’m joined by Simon Jordan, a successful entrepreneur and acclaimed TalkSPORT host for a fun and fiery debate, talking about foreign investments in sport, whether fans could run their beloved clubs, football fairytales like the incredible journey of Wrexham and the top traits of leadership.
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[@cheekynandos5056]

Both truely elite and unrivalled communicators in media. The whole podcast was poetry.

[@skp8748]

Proper working class London boy accent as well feels like a debate competition taking place in Islington 😂

[@MW92.]

Simon = top LAD proper clobber. The DON speaks only in fluent fact and truth

[@mikehunt4631]

@@MW92.no one is noticing you

[@MW92.]

@@mikehunt4631 cry more for the jordanites kid

[@declanshanahan3888]

@@skp8748 He's from Thornton Heath, what's your point.

[@jamiebrooke9248]

Simon is exactly what Russell needs, which is someone who just brings a bit of balance to some of his thoughts. The pairing I never knew I needed!

[@FountainOfYoot]

And vice versa.

[@Mul120]

😊😊aqq

[@alexmaggs3461]

Actually really enjoy Simon when he has someone like you to balance it out

[@asmo2183]

Could be said in return. Love Brand, but sometimes he drives too much into idealism.

[@michaelreay6992]

​@@asmo2183indeed

[@MW92.]

Simon = top LAD proper clobber

[@DJ-eh8nt]

SJ is actual money for viewing

[@jameswilson9578]

@@MW92.how many accs do you have? You spam the same thing on every SJ video

[@MichaelHolmgaard]

Simon & Russell are great together! You two should have a weekly podcast about this stuff

[@skp8748]

100% this is the best I've Simon Jordan. He clearly respects russell on as an intellectual and identifies with him culturally enough to hear out points he'd normally condescendingly dismiss and disparage. Russell also is free enough to engage in the conversation informally and posit his arguments/viewpoints without a sanctimonious tone

[@MartinDurden]

Ying and yang

[@AjarnDeeTeesut]

This could have been 3 hours long and I'd still listen. Fantastic.

[@strasbourgsteve]

coulda been 12. class podcast

[@joejohnbloggstestupload]

I listen to Talksport most days and love Simon. Sometimes he just argues for the sake of it on Talksport but here he is so calm, measured, unflustered, intelligent and eloquent. Even when Russel is getting angry and aggressive it doesn't phase him. So interesting to listen to.

[@ryanevans7283]

The podcast we’ve all been waiting for! Huge love for Simon and Russell

[@MW92.]

Simon = top LAD proper clobber

[@ryanevans7283]

@@MW92. my hero 😂

[@MW92.]

@@ryanevans7283 welcome to the jordanites association club Ryan 🤝

[@ryanevans7283]

@@MW92. I’ve been a member for years 😂

[@deano6410]

Simon did well pointing out the many hypocrisies of Brand

[@henrypage8951]

Brand very quickly backpedals and distinguishes between the individual and the 'corporation' when challenged.

[@kylejohnson5764]

@@henrypage8951 Typical marxist ideology tends to do that

[@peterf08]

We all have hypocrisys if your living in a system that encourages that behaviour

[@johnlewis9158]

Brand is a narcissist who like all narcissist's want's to be the centre of attention at all time's. He in my opinion is your stereotypical pseudo intellectual who changed tack from a woke lefty to so called truth teller to court the masses who once upon a time saw him as joke. Indeed Brand the unlimited immigration enthusiast called Nigel Farage a pound shop Enoch Powell live T.V. Of course that is a subject he no longer talks about because he knows that wouldn't go down well with his new found devotees

[@sratus]

@@peterf08 ...is something a hypocrite says when they've been rumbled.

[@JaeDavies23]

Listening to these two men talk on anything can enhance your vocabulary tenfold. Great conversation, chaps.

[@MrFurley2u]

Holy smokes, I feel like I'm getting an advanced English/Grammar class listening to Simon & Russell. When I was out mucking around as a kid, you two were reading books.

[@daveUK1066]

This was great as Simon kept jumping in and stopped Russel going into one of his trademark 9 minute long questions

[@mostelusive4313]

Probably learnt that from Jim on talk sport 😂

[@letstalk7233]

Arguably two of the best in the game right now and notably have both lived colourful and dramatic lives so you can guarantee their substance. Simon Jordan, top fella proper clobber.

[@Glassy1979]

Could listen to these two debate all day long! Would be a brilliant tv pairing. Please Russell make this a regular thing!!

[@mageeknailmahs669]

Russell, please join forces with Simon and start a whole Football Podcast / production company on your own. You guys would blow everyone else out of the water. You and Simon's DEEP football insights and content and interviews are unparalleled. It's football thinking man's stuff. High brow sh*t. We need it! ( ͡⚽ ͜ʖ ͡⚽)

[@Ryan-ys2bq]

Certainly would be better than Rios Five

[@issyjas3309]

Simon “Have you read the book ….” Russell “ I don’t even read the books I write “ The boy is so sharp he could cut himself. Excellent debate, interesting and insightful. Thank you

[@davidpeters3857]

👀

[@keepitbluezola]

Seeing a depth from Simon I wasn’t aware was there. Brilliant interview.

[@Altolin]

And so this is where Jordan's use of "apotropaic" came from. He slid it in beautifully 😂

[@philb9521]

Word of the day bogroll

[@KILLAGORILLA7000]

Please do more with Simon. This was great

[@o377691]

Can we have weekly show, with these two talking about football matters. Really enjoyed it.

[@NOBODY-cn6fj]

No

[@Robin-ee8vc]

Simon and Russell need their own podcast

[@RTAC_1234]

I dipped into this at 38:23. Simon said the following: You're sort of forecasting this dystopian future where football becomes something that is simply an end game for people with nefarious motives, or alternative intentions. Everyone's got an intention. Very few people have got an intention simply to do it for the love of football, right? Everyone wants to get something from it. So with that in mind, I've just given you a case in point where Luton in our leagues have proven the point that there is still the value of football being built in a certain way for the people from the people because of the people, right? Yeah. And we don't we don't, we don't lose the vibrancy of football, by the nature of ownership models that might have different intentions. We we we muddy the messages sometimes and we allow the broadcast world to fulfil the outcomes when we're constantly being listening to broadcasters pumping societal messages through football. You and I have discussed this on other platforms about the nature of football being leverage for other people's agendas and how that should be or could be a would be or shouldn't be. Yeah, in my view on the agenda... This is just waffle. This is not an intelligent person talking. Intelligent people make clear points in succinct language.

[@jacklimbhd8431]

You clearly have a lot of time on your hands.

[@RTAC_1234]

@@jacklimbhd8431 I don't have a lot of time on my hands, hence I didn't listen to the whole hour of waffle. I listened to one statement that I picked completely at random, and it was the same sort of word salad, as the Americans like to describe it, that I've heard on TS, and indeed that he spouts endlessly. If I had a lot of time on my hands, I would have listened to the whole hour of his rambling, circuitous nonsense.

[@stephenbyrneireland]

Could listen to this all day

[@Hoge1994]

Hats off to Simon for coming on here not often people from legacy media put their neck outs like he has done he is marmite you love him or hate him but for me he talks sense especially about football keep this up Russell mate your a legend

[@UncleMort]

I personally de platformed / blacklisted TalkSport and have refused to consume any of their content a few years now, so good to get to listen to Simon Jordan.

[@nonder92]

This was lovely and well balanced. Holy shit boys! Absolutely smashed it and loved it lmao 😂

[@scotteaglen4872]

Fascinating conversation. These two should be right at the top of football conversations.

[@Phez24]

The battle of who can use the most words to make the simplest point

[@a7xdunc72]

The buddy cop duo we never knew we needed!

[@4gxryhcstjiijv]

This convo is beyond my pay grade and not in line with my working hours I’m currently contracted….back later with my dictionary👍🏿

[@goofygomez]

"You look like a scarecrow with an ambition to model" 👌💯😂😂😂😂

[@taffdavies1646]

Why are you attacking us Russell? 😂 I'm oj, I grew up in wrexham and now have my own family here, Im in my mid 30s and I know many ppl that until now have never seen a wrexham game, it's been a source of embarrassment for us for years and now we are seeing our town benefit massively, these two A listers have brought us all together again! I have never seen this town this positive my entire life! We owe Ryan and Rob and we need to hope they remain interested in us!

[@bennyytube]

Simon's point on growing the PL like Netflix is spot on!

[@lukestorey343]

Best hour of podcast I’ve listened to…

[@Tommy-123]

This was absolutely brilliant. I don't always agree with Simon but I always know he's sayin what he actually believes rather than just saying things formthe sake of it

[@ltappy4212]

Yeh I agree and tbh you don't get too many people these days backing their point of view..he says what he thinks and thats refreshing..even if you don't agree

[@jameswilson9578]

@@ltappy4212when it doesn’t involve going against someone he gets paid by, like Levy.

[@inhabited83]

I'm watching this before it gets taken off air 😂

[@anthonyfindlay8554]

I love both of these linguistic tongue wrestlers. My Bookie Wook is a great read. I gave it to my Brazilian friend in Helsinki and he loved it. I have to buy Simons's book also. Talksport legend already

[@indiechana9771]

We need more of this!!!!!! Could listen to these wordsmiths all day!,

[@simonwood6008]

Nice chat. Thoroughly enjoyed it. From an AFC Wimbledon fan. PS thanks for putting us up from 1990 to 2002.

[@Mazo711]

Just thought I’d sit and listen to words I don’t know the meaning of for 1 hour and I loved it

[@Andrew-gf6ni]

This was quite the verbal battle. Needed the dictionary and thesaurus for this one.

[@samueljamespillar]

these 2 talk at the same pace, it works perfectly

[@danielridley8959]

The perfect pairing, good cop bad cop, 2 completely different people but also very similar, nice they can have a good conversation,debate and disagreement yet do it in a friendly entertaining way

[@HampshireSports]

These two work well together, who would have thought it 👍

[@OnePieceFanForever]

I would legit pay to watch you two every week

[@jacob1980jacob]

Great podcast! Really enjoyed it, you should make it more regular

[@Cat.handle111]

Love Simon

[@saltedcaramel-]

Simon Jordan x Russell Brand = Literature 🤌🏽

[@GamerFrisco]

Simon Jordan We Salute You ✊️

[@Compassiron1]

Thanks guys. Great convo

[@brideshead78]

These two are like the intellectual Morcambe and Wise. Loved it.

[@solshields]

Been waiting for this and will watch every episode. The perfect match

[@wesdoodle2495]

Looking forward to this one 😀

[@kavk3874]

The idealist meets the realist!

[@dean7652]

It’s like a Poundland version of Jordan Peterson talking to Stephen Fry but about football

[@joekennedy2477]

"They are bottling it and selling it, that's part of the bloody problem" G'wan Russell!

[@eddunne4190]

The boys.respect from Dublin Ireland

[@MrNiceHk]

Two very bright individuals, great show gents, thank you

[@stefonavich2000]

Not since Matt Morgan, has someone undermined and dismissed the nonsense aspects of Russel’s thinking whilst engaging in sensible conversation on the more cogent aspects of Russell’s arguments. From the other side, Simon seemed relaxed and jovial in Russell’s company rather than the ‘one trick pony’ he comes across as on TS. These two are good for each other I think

[@PWMoze]

Brilliant content.This reminds me of when Russell met Candace Owens: Russell puts forward some romantic, utopian notions of how things could be only to be effectively countered by hard nosed, practical, commercial realism. Well done for trying Russell but, despite the superior vocabulary, very few win when arguing with Simon Jordan.

[@acg9743]

Difference is Simon Jordan is a fairly intelligent human being....Candace Owens on the other hand...

[@PWMoze]

@@acg9743 not entirely fair, she managed to charm Russell kzbin.info/www/bejne/fF6yln6MZq-Nfas

[@peterf08]

It's easy to identify realism because that's what we are living in Coming up with new ideas and concepts is what intellectuals do Russell knows the reality at this moment in time and doesn't like it

[@DeanRTaylor]

I think the point Russell was making is that perhaps the commercial side of things shouldn't be above everything else. If all the premier league stars moved to saudi arabia I'd still rather watch my local team in the third division than tune into the saudi league because it feels like you're a part of something. If the entire pyramid falls because the premier league moves to an f1 style calendar then that would be an absolute travesty. Simon argues that regulation kills industry but actually it preserves industry. It just prevents absolute commercialisation of certain areas of industry. The same can be said of water or electricity which Russell does touch on.

[@PWMoze]

@@DeanRTaylor I don't disagree, but Russell's argument rested on the idea of those public assets being 'taken' from those who currently own them. In a revolution that might be possible but in the normal course of events that would involve the state buying them back. I presume at great expense. In the same way, buying extremely valuable football clubs off ruthless international (mostly American) corporate entities and wealthy soveriegn nations (mostly oil rich Arab states) would most likely be ruinessly expensive? Even taking back water and power into public ownership would only be possible with huge outlay of public funds. Given the current state of our economy, its hard to imagine football teams being very high on the nation's shopping list, even if there was popular consent for the idea (which I doubt). As much as I'd support it, t's a bit of a dream at the moment isn't it?

[@juvenilegolden]

100% agree with Russell. Football is soulless now. No mavericks, no characters, just money & politically driven.

[@tournaline3448]

Could’ve listened for another hour. Great perspectives from both sides.

[@RedeemedWhispers]

When you put two smart, silver-tongued cockneys in one room, you’re always guaranteed to be entertained. What a pair

[@papalazarou7880]

Russell and Simon are brilliant, I could listen to them all day.

[@daveclarke6986]

Simon & Russell brilliant👍🇦🇺

[@mohammedyacinebouacida1712]

Love the poetic exchanges and the chemistry between the two ....Thanks for the upload

[@Brad_Evans92]

Great conversation 👏🏻, enjoyed that.

[@garrybaldy327]

Simon would help himself more if he got his facts right. Sheikh Mansour hasn't ploughed any money into Moss Side. The Etihad is miles from City's old stomping ground.

[@Trecesolotienesdos]

Simon Jordan is very good. smart, articulate, strong critical thinker and outargues season football pros with top playing and coaching experience. Looking at you Souness, O'Neill, Keown and Murphy!!

[@robbiewizz658]

He goes out argue pro’s on coaching tactics playing styles and philosophies of football. He’d be backing the Hodgson, Dyche, Pardew, Allardyce line of football. Not exactly the path breaking game changing futuristic game we see today . More like get it early long ball play if the 2nd ball don’t play out the back bypass the midfield awful football imo

[@AstonTheVillaFan]

4:30 and I’m creasing 😅 these two 😂

[@Pedro2706]

Verbal jousting of the highest order-fabulous.And what an intro from Russell!

[@thesmanbrowne4561]

Go on Russell , give it him back ! This is fantastic to watch ❤🙏👍

[@jasonbudd4696]

Loved that podcast. Great debate.

[@ronald.pickering]

Episode 33. Because of course

[@pickle9607]

These two need there own show

[@JabbadaOblongata]

A mediator in between this gentleman like we have here is essential

[@gmdhargreaves]

Simon Jordan is the best thing in the UK at the moment

[@markdudley7118]

I don't half miss them gentle days of playful anecdotes and piss-taking between Russ, Gareth and JMF. I'm a superficial twerp and it was lovely to see Russ so relaxed and incredibly witty. Nemind :(

[@dustyrhodes1655]

Amazing conversation!

[@robbob1436]

It would be good to let your guest answer the questions youre asking

[@hegzneptune7327]

Good episode.👍

[@michaelsinghpurewal]

not quite nixon v frost but a great debate of reality versus idealism

[@Longeezy]

Simon took the W here I think. Top work from both sides.

[@ClihtYeastwood]

Wish Russell could keep up without resorting to childish behaviour. Otherwise, these two are great together.

[@matthewhoyle31]

If the state can decide to take a football club and give it as a gift then the state owns it. Because if it feels it has the right to strip it from the original owner. Then it will feel it has exclusive rights to say what happens to the club. That's what ownership is. Exclusive rights to say what happens to something. What then happens if the state gives the club to fans who then receive a billion dollar offer from an investment firm of the middle east, and decides to sell. If the state can stop that from happening then by definition the state owns the club.

[@kanesalts]

Smaller clubs tend to maintain their grass roots nature due to the lack of exposure to the corporate influence. Also their fans are generally concentrated in their local geographic. I would like to see the wrexham owners on this show. Thanks Kane

[@buzzcagney8957]

Russell should look up the Gaelic Athletic Association in Ireland. All amatuer players playing for their respective town/county straight from grassroots in front of tens of thousands every week. Check it out.

[@harvey90100]

Brilliant chat this

[@tonester09]

These two are great together

[@supasid3106]

Brilliant line I don't even read my own books ....never mind other people's

[@playboxcasual8319]

This is football ying and yang ☯️

[@DurninTv]

Simon will be on Joe Rogan next haha😂

[@wizkidjosh]

need this to be a series!

[@seangraver5511]

Russel brand needs deeming .. he is absolutely deemented

[@Nejfun]

I heard him say Apotropaic on the show and I even thought that word was too boojie for Simon. Now I know where it came from.

[@hectorignacio-nx1dm]

Ok when is the vid on your team's 'historic' victory dropping? Lucky gift yesterday mate.

[@SyxxIsaac]

Feel like listening to this podcast made me a slightly better person

[@BigDome1]

I didn't like this one much, Simon seems to have become a bit wedded to this one persona and it's become a bit repetitive. Russ as an interviewer can try to be a bit too deep for his own good and this one was not as funny or enjoyable as your chats on talksport, I think it would have been good to have Gareth there. Anyway, looking forward to the next episode, love the show so much

[@TheMaumonta]

So much fun to listen to these amazingly intelligent punters

[@DC_92]

PAROXIDE PAXMAN 💀

[@ZeScorpion]

They are the Ying to the other's Yang. Debating gold..! Well done both... 🍻