Simon Pimenta Shares His Experience with The Lightning Process for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS)

Like most people, Simon Pimenta didn't know what the lightning process was, let alone that it is relevant to ME/CFS.
In this candid interview, Simon Pimenta shares his experience with the Lightning Process and what else he did to recover from ME/CFS. I think this makes this interview quite insightful to answer the question of whether the Lightning Process works.
Was it a miracle overnight cure? Was that the only thing he did to recover? Judge for yourself!
Simon finally made a full recovery, and has now dedicated himself to help others follow in his footsteps.
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[@floozle]

Thank you for this interview Dan. I have watched many of them but found this one to resonate with me and encourage me the most. I think Simon's clear explanations of his experiences and his attitude to his illness are exactly like mine. I have had periods of feeling much better during the 6 years I have had ME but get very frustrated and depressed with setbacks and bad relapses. I have tried so many different things to get better that that in itself is exhausting and leaves me feeling very despondent when nothing seems to work. I am very hard on myself for not beating it yet. I will take a great deal from this interview. :)

[@CFSUnravelled1]

That's great to hear Helen, thanks for the positive feedback. I always say to people, it's not so much WHAT people do to recover, but rather WHY does it work. Hope the video explanation on the site has been helpful for you - you might also find the free intro portion of ANS REWIRE very helpful. :)

[@islandskin4182]

Thank you for this Dan and Simon! Can’t wait to start our training on the building resilience program with Simon, I will be happy to share my progress and hopefully my recovery story! X

[@NickFontana]

Very inspiring interview! :)

[@donellefeltham]

I’ve been going too do this for a long time and when normally I think about adding my story, I just couldn’t work up the energy. My ME/CFS - Fibromyalgia started or should I say when I finally had an answer to some of why all of sudden the stuff I’d been beating myself up for for many years. I didn’t think of myself as Lazy, I could spend all day in the garden doing pretty heavy work, I kept my home in Pristine condition, I had some horses I looked after. So I was very active. Then in my late 30’s I fell pregnant with a very much longed for Baby but at 12 weeks I miss carried, I was devastated and when my periods returned, come back with a vengeance. I hadn’t particularly painful or heavy periods since I had my daughter. I knew there was something wrong so I went and seen my doctor. I mentioned to her that I thought I might have endometriosis, but she didn’t think so because I had children. This was back in the day when it was thought if you had kids this protected you from it. So she gave me some hefty painkillers to use when I got the pain. However she did send me off to see a Gynaecologist who did all sorts of tests in his office and in his letter back to my Doctor, he advised I have a Laparoscopy too check that everything was Ok and at the end of his letter , he said he advised he thought I might have ME and it would be worth while to see one of the other Doctors in his building as he had a very good and also treated people with ME but first he wanted to do the Surgery. I was privately insured so I didn’t have to wait. So I had the Surgery which turned out to be more than just exploretry . He had to remove adhesions as my cyst as he could and my overnight stay turned into a week. He new I wanted to try for another baby but he said what I should be having was a total Hysterectomy but I wasn’t up for that. So I made the appointment to see the doctor who felt in ME. When I seen him and gave him my referral from my Doctor who had also enclosed the letter from my Gyno, Anyway long story short he said yes he was sure I had ME/CFs plus Fibromyalgia. I'm now 68 and although I've come a long way , I still have times when it flares up again, the Fibromyalgia is always there, but I now don't have insomnia, as I did in my 40's, I'd gone from someone who could sleep on a Barbwire Fence too some one who slept very little even with the strongest sleeping tablets you can get. My Doctor had given me a weeks worth and wasn't surprised when they didn't work. I could probably go on all day, the only thing I would add my Doctor felt I'd had it for a lot longer than my diagnosis and he told me back then I would probably be stuck with it for the rest of my life. He also told me to not going being wonder woman because that would only make it worse. Did I listen too him No I thought I'll beat this it's not going to beat me. Yeah that was my first mistake. He was a very wise man , and my Doctor I have know I've been with for 20 year's and apart from Degenerative Osteoarthritis, and bone spurs on my most of my bone's I am in pretty good health, he keeps me on the straight and narrow. Even though I know these things I try not to make a big deal of it. My life is good I live on my own and have done for quite some time but that is a chioce. People often ask me aren't you lonley , no I have my music which is my passion. I only have to look after myself I've got a wonderful Daughter and three beautiful grown grandkids, we live in Perth Western Australia the best place on earth while the rest of my family live in Sydney which today is only a 4 hour plane ride away. Life is good.🎼♥️🇦🇺😞

[@FreshAgenda]

Hi Dan. I wonder if you would ever consider some quick update videos with some of these awesome folks. That would be incredible!

[@beebennett2545]

Thank you for this interview. It has really helped me understand about LP for my condition and that I can use it forever once I've taken a course.

[@CFSUnravelled1]

Glad it helped you Bee. Have you listened to any of the ohter recovery interviews on cfsunravelled.com and this youtube channel?

[@mrgreentea1411]

Interesting Process and definitely a part of it, but the problem arises that accumulated toxins and pathogens can themselves initiate the stress response in the body, continually. They need to be removed.

[@CFSUnravelled1]

+MrGreenTea Indeed I agree that we need to address both psychological and physiological triggers, and there are a range of them. However, we still need to go beyond symptom treatment on both and hence it is important to understand the root mechanism driving ME/CFS/Fibromyalgia symptoms. Hope this series of videos makes sense to you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnqxi6GcdqdofZo

[@sparrowbarnesmusic5864]

So where do i find hjow to apply lightning process to my life. And is this only available if u have money or live in england

[@timivers7158]

I had hip surgery while in the Army and have not been the same since. I went from doing 6 miles marches and 4 mile runs to not being able to get out of bed. My surgery was in march 2010 and today is January 2019. I still have not recovered completely.

[@vivienlee610]

How are you now? I'm wondering if you followed up on anything from this video?.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

I wonder if fixing his underlying leaky gut etc., helped him recover quicker with the LP. Resolving physical issues has got to help build a stronger base.

[@CFSUnravelled1]

+ArtJourneyUK Indeed a multi-lateral approach is key for recovery, as there are both physiological and psychological triggers of the illness.

[@InspiringChangeCoachingLtd]

+ArtJourneyUK I am sure that following the leaky gut regime, anti-candida diet etc helped. I know of people who claim that they resolved those issues just by using mind/body approaches. It doesn't have to be either this OR that. I agree with Dan, one can take a multilateral approach.

[@morningwithgracie7870]

Is lp help pots fibromyalgia and cfs? What is the difference bet. Fibro amd cfs?

[@theantiqueactionfigure]

Good to see some men's cfs stories represented here. I sure found out what it's like to be a woman in the doctors office. Definitely put me in touch with my feminine side, Lol!

[@CFSUnravelled1]

Spoke with a young doctor last week who thought that 'women in their 40s get fibromyalgia' - I explained this is not the case. He was also surprised when I explained that CFS, POTS, IBS and so on are not different illnesses.

[@TheDimachaerus]

So how is the lightning process going to change the nervous system? Structural injuries? Glial cells? This really, makes very little to no sense, not really. CRPS is a highly complex, misunderstood disease which will require far more than positive thinking or speaking to "fix" it. Reducing stress is great, but this a reach at best....

[@CFSUnravelled1]

Thanks for your comment. Appreciate where you are coming from. I don't see how 'positive thinking' is going to fix CFS, just like 'positive thinking' doesn't fix someone that experienced a stroke. However, using the mind can still effect neuroplasticity as we see in stroke recovery rehabilitation where people retrain their nervous system to function again.

[@TheDimachaerus]

Fair enough. However...people are claiming the lightning process has "healed" them. Everyone is trying to cell something.

[@CFSUnravelled1]

Not sure the 'selling' comment makes sense to me - but sure, people that offer a service they believe in will promote it. In terms of healing, whilst I have met many people that didn't benefit from the LP, I have also met people that have made healed and restored their health by using it. So like anything, it's not a 1 fit all cure, but understanding WHY it helps some can be beneficial for all.

[@michaelfortune9997]

TheDimachaerus This is the problem when clueless, uneducated people like yourself have an opinion on something they know nothing about, then they spread that opinion all over the internet. The LP/NLP (NLP with pacing is better than the LP) train your brain AND your nervous system to respond differently to situations, allowing your body to heal naturally by helping calm your nervous system and being in the calm, healing state (the parasympathetic nervous system). You cant heal if you're wired/stressed on a regular basis. It create new neuropathways so you literally change your future in a sense. Go sit on the forums and join the thousands waiting for a one pill magic bullet cure? Then in 20-40 years when the conventional medical profession catches up you will then starting using these sort of techniques.

[@cfsmehelpfulhandchannel9003]

For me to help reducing stress was a good night sleep(8 hours)for that 25, 26 days straight. After that, your nervous system will be strong enough to handle everyday problems. But you will not sleep like that until you will not fix your digestion problems. Digestion problems make you wake up at night and break up your sleep. Like that it is very hard to do any progress. It is almost impossible. Your muscles will not gonna get stronger, it means you will get tired quickly after the simplest everyday tasks and that will make your brain tired too because you can't handle it thinks, you think about it and you are exhausted physically and mentally at the end of the day.

[@theantiqueactionfigure]

Humiliating a patient is malpractice.

[@nordicway4036]

Dan, I thought you was a reasonable man. How can you promote this money scam? This makes it hard to believe you ever had ME/CFS. Read the NICE-guidelines. It's a scam.

[@CFSUnravelled1]

I get how you feel. I try not to judge how people recover and seek to share their experience, but I must admit that I have strong misgivings about some approaches. However, if you actually listen to the interview, you will see that Simon used multiple approaches to recover, similar to what I actually advocate. Having said that, I have come across some people that used LP exclusively (or at least they suggest that - chances are they have some of the core recovery strategies in place already) and did well with it, even though others don't. 'scam' is a strong word, but I appreciate why you feel negative about it given the experience that people report with it.

[@nordicway4036]

​@@CFSUnravelled1 Thank you for answering, Dan. "Scam" is a strong word but it is absolutely appropriate for the Lightning Process. You would probably have to experience them from a patient-perspective to really see it. However, it is very obvious. Their approach is text-book scam. They have a "secret" cure to a serious illness. They claim their success rate is 90 % for ME/CFS when you contact them (you know that's ridiculous, Dan). You buy an expensive course after years and years of illness and desperation. You sit there with a "coach". You stand on pieces of paper with words on them and say "I am well". You are told you must "believe in the Process, otherwise it won't work". Then, you must tell the other participants how good you feel now. Which will press them to also say they feel better. When you are done, you are told that you MUST tell your friends and family that you are now cured. Otherwise it will not work and you will stay sick. Sounds messed up? It is. But it works because patients are desperate. I trust that you have seen the actual patient surveys where 0 % saw any benefits? Or the reports of children and young adults ending their lives because it did not work and they blamed themselves? They block previous (and failed) course participators online, they delete comments that point out these facts and they only allow positive comments from people (and those people are always LP-practitioners themselves). If people reading this think that's absurd, you can look at their KZbin-content and see. Every single one of the LP-practitioners market themselves saying they have recovered from ME with lightning process. This is very often a pretty obvious lie and they all just happens to already be NLP-coaches, hypnotists and life coaches making LP a perfect way for them to get more clients. This leads me back to the word "scam" from my original post. It reminds me of a pyramid scheme. Phil Parker at the top and then all his practitioners who get to practice his cruely towards ME/CFS patients as long as he gets a % of their profit.

[@CFSUnravelled1]

I hear you. 😐 I totally appreciate what you are saying. When people blame themselves afterwards it's terrible. Unfortunately the illness is much more complex than a narrow approach allows. Besides the fact that individuals are different in their ability to engage in psychological processes, there are of course variations in the physical dysfunctions of the illness. That's why I advocate a wider multi-lateral approach. I guess I don't like the word scam because it suggests that the process is purely designed for the benefit of the organiser, which I don't believe to be the case. Also, it disregards the fact that some people benefit and recover using this approach. In any case, I think your misgivings are of course valid, and I share some of your concerns.

[@AnneAlready]

I know two people for whom the Lightning Process worked really well. Neither was active on patient forums or had contact with ME charities/advocacy groups etc and both went into it believing they would get well. For the younger patient who'd been unwell 3 - 4 years it only took three days. When her mother told me her story I assumed she'd likely been misdiagnosed with ME, even though we have the same very good GP. Five years later my cousin, unwell more than a decade with a diagnosis of Fibromyalgia and CFS, did a three day seminar then had two further sessions with a coach on zoom. Three months later she was mostly symptom free, and at a bit over a year she considered herself healed. My cousin credits yoga, time in nature and staying well away from the news and other drama instrumental in her recovery too. :)