Simon Sinek's Brutally Honest Opinion Of Gen-Z

[@TheDiaryOfACEOClips]

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[@conkadonk4976]

3 minutes of this guy making shit up was enough .

[@9000ck]

employers don't care about gen z and gen z don't care about their crap mcjob employers. its mutual disrespect.

[@takeabreakminecraft]

What an L take. This dude is ignorant af. Uncomfortable conversations are not leading to raises in the current job market. Fair wages are near impossible to find. I’m not even gen z, but this guy sounds like a lucky privileged idiot in this interview.

[@bennewey5483]

I'm a Gen X old guy, I've stayed too long in jobs that were terrible. Gen Z seems to have realised that to get a decent raise you need to move jobs regularly. Company budget for raises is usually a fraction of the budget for hiring. TL;DR - COMPANY LOYALTY IS DEAD. THEY KILLED IT. GETCHA MONEY.

[@fearless6947]

exactly, no point negiotiating. The old boss will try and negiotate you down anyway

[@ceetee8562]

This is 100% true. You never make any financial progress through showing loyalty. Asking for a raise will also likely be to your detriment as you force your boss into an awkward conversation with theirs. If they speak up on your behalf at all.

[@alelectric2767]

From this Gen X. Exactly!! You’ll get more moving on from where you are. Why say anything.

[@geoffmeakin8669]

Either you make your own plan or you fit into someone else's, and guess what they have planned for you.....not much.

[@zennihilator3724]

Power, influence, strength is what dictates outcome, not 'uncomfortable' conversations and truth... It's not like people decided to wake up one day and say ''From now on, i'm going to be afraid to say what i mean!'' How stupid do you have to be to believe along those lines... People start of by speaking their mind and asking for what they want. Then they get shut down or ignored. Again, and again. Why? Because nobody cares and they are not in position of strength to do anything about it. This is especially apparent in the post-internet age where everything exists permanently under a magnifying glass. If you decide to speak what you believe is the truth or put a set of boundaries/requirements, people will jump down your throat immediately. They can't wait to interpret whatever you say like a jumping board to elevate themselves above you for social points or replace you with something that's less maintenence. Therefore, what else are you suppose to do? If the reward for speaking up for yourself was greater than the risk of backlash, people would naturally speak up more... You wouldn't even need to make a video about it. But because that's not reality, it's more like a 5-10% chance of getting the desired outcome, 30-40% chance of being neutral, the rest is probably damaging relationships at best, getting replaced at worst. But you know when that doesn't happen? When you are in position of power. Hence, it makes more sense to try and achieve that, than trying to bargain your position as a low-tier worker in a world that's becoming increasingly more efficient at automating or replacing low-tier work.

[@Ranchorita]

They may be conflict-avoidant for themselves, but they certainly have an appetite for making other people uncomfortable.

[@braedonmcknight154]

OK boomer

[@SpiritualAttitudeSage]

Energy has to go somewhere

[@Ranchorita]

@@braedonmcknight154 Wrong generation, zoomer, but ok. And thank you for proving my point, you sweet summer child. 😀

[@user-ds8gf3ki2g]

So because he said OK boomer you feel uncomfortable WhAt😂😂

[@garywalling4341]

Yeah it's called 'lack of social concience' caused by bad parenting and social media, and/or, in my view, 'cowardice'.

[@poguemahone5476]

Asking for a raise is almost worthless in this day. Much better for your career to leave to another company for more money. Very few companies put employee retention ahead of recruitment. I've experienced, and observed this many times over. A close friend stayed loyal to his company for 10 years and became team leader with minimal pay increase, only to have his entire team end up being paid more becauae they were new hires. The company doesn't care about you personally, so you absolutely no obligation to care about them personally.

[@Zmiana_Pogody]

This is SO SAD, SO FRUSTRATING! Who runs this companies? Not Gen Z though! They are too young, right? Gen Z just reacts to that, cause as young people they are bold enough to change the jobs quickly and thus they have learnt their lessons. I'm 45 and I see the fault of this unjust situation in people of my age - people who run the companies now.

[@kitsura]

Yes and the HR department is not your friend but there to protect the company. If you complain to them your managers and sometimes the CEO might even hear about it. So ghosting and suddenly quitting is definitely a thing born out of necessity.

[@kantraxoikol6914]

yeah, pride has nothing to do with it? pride in what you're doing? does money always have to equal success? because i've heard of rare people who quit and take HALF pay for a job they like more than money. those people are welcome to leave....no problem at all.

[@jerome620]

If you've spent much time listening to Simon, this is precisely what he's trying to change in corporate leadership. Care about your people and treat them well. This is a win for all parties involved.

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Agreed

[@patmagic3301]

I’m 53. I’ve been trying to guide my late brothers son, my nephew, who’s 23. I worked in law enforcement and retired after 25 plus years which I know is a disappearing if not gone reality for young people. I’ve leaned, through my nephew that changing jobs really is better and quite normal for their generation. It seems this wouldn’t be productive for the employer or the worker but as has been highlighted by studies and comments here, it actually has worked out for him in increasing his income. Times they are’a changing.

[@lilrog0909]

So your pension wasn't worth the stay? Just asking as a recently retired army older millennial. Just started a new career in federal law enforcement

[@patmagic3301]

@@lilrog0909 No no no, if you’re federal, you’ve got it made. I was referring to the fact that pensions are a rare benefit these days. The level of security is unbeatable and nothing is holding you up from doing something else after your career. 👍

[@tangobear3536]

@@lilrog0909 Most companies don't offer pensions anymore. Pensions only in govt. work. Whether a govt. pension is good depends on the person---their temperament, talents, skills, etc. Good for some, not so for others.

[@tonedowne]

This is not a generational issue. It’s just that young people have been born into a hyper connected, publicly displayed environment, so there are a load more things to negotiate in bad situations. People have been ghosting since the invention of the answer machine. Or even “tell him I’m out”. I know people worked decades in jobs they didn’t like because they didn’t want to engage.

[@johngoldsworthy7135]

This is absolutely a generation thing. It’s cool. Just accept the fact gen z are low IQ social autists

[@CharlieBam]

I think he's saying it's more prevalent in that generation, not that it's exclusive. I just left teaching high school for 6 years and kids are quite a bit different than they to be.

[@lavinder11]

So it is a generational issue considering Gen z is the first to be born in a hyper connected society.

[@tonedowne]

@@lavinder11 Being hyper connected just makes it more noticeable

[@birgik]

Exactly, glad someone pointed this out.

[@phantomvox]

Im 47. I have always avoided conflict even at my own detriment. Never understood why until I went to a psychologist in my adulthood. Due to abusive father I avoided any negative interaction at home to not get harmed. This basically destroyed my life forever. To this day I cant get over it.

[@heystefl]

Hey, man. Turning 35 this year and can relate. It's not over until it's over!

[@thejohnbeck]

it's not over. don't quit.

[@riffraffrichard]

Your life’s not destroyed your conscious of this now. You should practice facing your fears in the smallest way. If someone asks you to do something that doesn’t feel right for you be sure to try and express your feelings and say no to it and take time to say what your needs are to people. Soon you will feel happier in your skin and realise that not all disagreements lead to conflict and pain. Some people live a whole life without realising what went wrong, you will get there.

[@tch2296]

Don't listen to a psychologist who tells you your life is ruined because of your childhood. I have a degree in psychology and had a horrible childhood and the only way to improve is to take responsibility and change yourself I'm not saying your issues aren't real just saying don't take a defeatist attitude because we all have these struggles and the meaning of life is found in overcoming then

[@ickster23]

I think it's an urban/rural issue. I just retired from the Navy four years ago. One of the jobs I had was to take brand new sailors to sea for the first time. I could tell immediately who grew up on a farm from everyone else. That sailor was cheeerful, proactive, and got "on with it" no matter the challenge. Motivating the urban demographic was like pushing a rope up hill.

[@lesterdiamond6190]

So much truth in this. So glad I grew up rural. I know grown men who can’t even drive an automobile. Meanwhile my buddy’s kid is 21 and already a working commercial helicopter pilot.

[@theecstatic9686]

Yea if only everyone could work a farm and not live in a fukked up city...derp...

[@daveSoupy]

@@lesterdiamond6190 if you live in a really walkable city with public transit I can understand not knowing how to drive since there's no reason to learn. totally reasonable reasons to not know.

[@keithstewart934]

The US is likely to continue to sort along these lines and the attitudes engendered. I saw a chart that indicated that with the exception of 5 big cities the US is one of the lowest crime countries on Earth, we are not one people and becoming more fractured and fractious.

[@havable]

"Motivating the urban demographic was like pushing a rope up hill" If you can find me *three* rural people who aren't so cracked out on meth that they can accomplish literally *anything at all* I'd be very surprised.

[@sidyaking]

A millionaire giving a pep talk, thank you. I’m in my 30s. I did provide feedback when management said “we are open to feedback”. It backfired every single time. I asked u comfortable questions when they were necessary. It backfired 50% of the times. I saw many moments when management was bragging how we are performing above market but salary raises were within that market range. We and younger generations are not afraid of uncomfortable conversations. We just do not have resource to handle plain BS shared with us by people who are way more wealthy and left us poor economy and terrible geopolitical situation. Quite often those people don’t even know how to save file as a pdf

[@internetfairy1]

Having narcissist mother means never learning the skills of the difficult conversations, because if you even attempt such a thing you are brutally shut down !

[@mdmorris6193]

I am SO hearing you!

[@grijsje]

When dealing with a narcissist just counter in a rational way. They shout, you stay calm. They act wild, stare them down. It is hard to deal with such people.

[@machinethesun9243]

I had a narcissist mother, and stood my ground, moved out at 17, put myself through college, cut her off at 30, bought my own apartment at 32, lived there for 20 years and she never saw it. You have to get on with your life, and advocate for yourself. The sooner you learn this, the better.

[@TwattyWankers]

Agreed!!

[@saxongjd]

I feel that pain too. But the good news is that it doesn't mean NEVER learning the skills - you can learn them later, from other places, as part of your healing process.

[@Spiros2508]

I dated a really amazing woman for 18 months and out of nowhere, in 2018 she sent a short text and left. I kept trying to contact, not to get back together but for answers - a difficult conversation. Just like Simon says here, it was like a death. I still think about her far too often, Not sure I’ve ever gotten over it, but this video definitely clarified that this ‘traumatic feeling’ is a real thing. Thanks Simon

[@BarefootContessa72]

Same thing happened to me

[@cjclubseltzer]

Same here

[@sarabennett6295]

18 months is a long time. It is sad that she ghosted you like that. She is immature

[@BarefootContessa72]

Did you ever find her?

[@app13s33d]

Same 😢

[@allenwarfield]

As a Gen Z i have dealt with plenty of uncomfortable conversations and chose the diplomacy approach every time. Companies these days seem volatile as industries have drastic changes so easily. I've found along with many others that the safer option is to hedge your career with other companies. It's much different than how our grandparents were the only locals in town to leverage their skills. We are just as replaceable as our employers are, but it's our responsibility to be dynamic for our own wellbeing.

[@User-gj1ub]

Hey, I know you.

[@nicholasparry6859]

Yup why at our work we now always cross examine your old employers heavily before hiring. We need to make Gen Z accountable. We had two kids quit that I ran into at their new workplace. Made sure to share my thoughts with their new employer.

[@adamshattuck1985]

@@nicholasparry6859 if your bussiness had screwed me over, by my perception not yours, would you be fine if i seen one of your customers to bad mouth you in a attempt to dessaude them? you sound like a jackass. im a xennial, born 1985, and theres a word that they made that describes you-a kevin, the male karen. bwahaha

[@MoBarclay]

A nice Gen Z woman works for me and she's proudly asked for a raise, waited, got it, and is thriving. Sometimes it's the job of the manager/leader to guide the younger generation (aka Gen Z) by keeping communication open, honest and showing the process for advancing clearly with detailed goals over time. i.e. performance mgt (So I don't think it has to be a generation thing - experienced leaders should teach/show Gen Z how it works if / when you perform and reward them when the time is right) Can't expect them to know how to do it without your help.

[@davids_d3246]

Totally agree wit you 👍🏻👍🏻

[@humanbeing8948]

One think that you fail to acknowledge is, asking for a raise is on the employee timetable and giving one is on the company's. When the employee asks, they aren't just doing it to "get one". Employee feels that they earned it, the company feels otherwise which usually has nothing to do with work performance. Stonewalling penny raises that wouldn't even change the tax bracket for the employee is ridiculous.

[@RKO1988]

Gen Z is right

[@kneelsonn]

If an employee is doing his best every day keeps raking in profits and is actually useful, then it is the bosses job to give that person a raise and not keep playing with barriers. It is infuriating if you feel like you are being used.

[@dekippiesip]

Depends on what scale the boss is managing. A manager generally has a shit ton to deal with. They have dozens if not over a hundred members in their team(at my company). And they talk and engage with a lot of other stakeholders. To me, it actually feels like my product owner is my manager(we work agile) while my manager almost works like a director. Either you have an Einstein level breakthrough, or the manager won't notice you for work. If you do your job diligently and on time you simply won't get noticed. That's just the minimum that is expected.

[@3eezy]

​@@dekippiesipWell said. Crazy how people expect their bosses to pay attention only to them 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

​@3eezy pretty sure if they were screwing up the boss would magically notice them so it's not crazy that they ask to be noticed when doing well too

[@3eezy]

@@Aaron-kj8dv Yeah because comparing something that could potentially hurt their bottom line or other employee's production is a good comparison? People in general notice the negatives in life before the positive.. That's just built as a survival trait in humans. Everyone is doing their best and some people do get noticed all the time for potential pay raises but it's up to YOU at the end of the day to tell them that you're worth the pay raise. Bosses care about maximizing profits and people need to either grow up and realize that or work for themself. Because nobody is going to hand you anything in life and that goes for outside of business as well.

[@dekippiesip]

@Aaron-kj8dv my point is that in many cases it isn't malice or even greed. The manager simply doesn't notice you personally because, well he/she has more than 10 other things to think about at any one moment. It is nothing personal. As you can imagine you simply can't notice the good work of dozens of people and evaluate who needs or doesn't need a raise based on that. You only notice major achievements way outside of the expected scope of an employee, if an employee asks you for a raise or if an employee f's up.

[@juliedebiasio]

The younger generations were never allowed to fight or have conflicts so it makes sense that it’s ingrained in their makeup. I hope they learn this important skill… just because we disagree doesn’t mean we can’t still care and give a nod to each others values, thoughts and opinions.

[@NGC1433]

"younger generations were never allowed to fight " so you have never seen a kid throwing a tantrum in a shopping mall? The fuck are you talking about? I was raised in early nineties, if I fell on the floor screaming when I was 6 - my mother would kick me in the kidneys and move on with her life without me.

[@woulfhound]

Unfortunately fighting is not a solution either. That's like saying go to prison to learn how to be tough. Prison won't make you tough, it will only try to break you.

[@J_The_Colossal_Squid]

@@woulfhound Preparing yourself to defend yourself against fighting by learning fighting skills may have been what was being referred to. Best guess on my part. Because, it was the norm for Gen Xers and the generations before that.

[@Artemis583]

Having an uncomfortable conversation is totally different from fighting. Conflict can be healthy, like he said in the video it is about context and skillset building. Someone who doesn't learn something in the past doesn't mean they can't learn in the present.

[@J_The_Colossal_Squid]

@@Artemis583 I'm not certain if American-English is your first language or not, but the use of the word _fight_ covers a wide range of potential contexts, arguably most of which, most of the time, do NOT necessarily involve physical contact with one another for even so much as an iota.

[@sidilicious11]

This is brilliant. It was at a commune in the 80’s where I learned how to have uncomfortable conversations and live through it. It freed me up and helped me stay brave when people got heated verbally.

[@jakenuno9900]

I've heard of a exercise that puts yourself in a situation to be denied or told No often, back to back, which then helps lessen the emotional blow of being rejected.

[@forbezofficial]

People who avoid conflict for the sake of 'peace' even to their own detriment have been subject to prolonged tyrannous narcissism. Although I appreciate your empathetic approach, its far more complex than imparting a skillset. This type of individual needs to reprogram their sub-conscious to fully embrace their authentic self because they associate confrontation with hostility.

[@infjinfj1900]

Well said!

[@Lilasun]

I'm happy to see your comment. Avoiding conflict is also often a reaction to childhood trauma and part of Complex PTSD from emotionally abusive or immature parenting.

[@lonepantalones8284]

Been there and had the same experience, learning to view that as something for myself to overcome. But also, whoever is managing should be actively working to retain their employees. Workplace morale goes unattended far too regularly in some workplaces.

[@Kap01]

As someone who has this problem and is actively trying to overcome it, every time I got into an uncomfortable situation or confrontation, it almost always ended up badly or negative, making me look stupid. Which is very unhelpful since it kept reinforcing my avoidant mindset.

[@andydufresne8034]

I agree but believe it goes way deeper. Narcissists are domineering bullies who desire to rule your life and the world, and are disturbingly succesful at doing so. This is the reason everything is broken and nothing makes sense. Narcissists are detached from reality, but rather than adapt, learn, and grow, they instead bend society to their will and have made it in their image, normalizing their insanity and crushing truth. They crush truth by destroying truthtellers and conning gullible decent people into believing their lies. This creates insecurity. People simply speaking truth are told they're wrong and beaten into submission, and in this way become confused and afraid of communication. A great deal of our insecurities and depression, as well as much of the trouble in the world, is a product of dealing with narcissistic insanity and not realizing it. I believe the key to fixing society and a great deal of our confusion, insecurities, and general struggles is mass awareness of Narcissistic Personality Disorder and proper constructive ways of dealing with narcissists, which are completely counter-intuitive to healthy people. Narcissists rule and ruin the world and our lives because the majority of people are clueless about how narcissism works. Everybody thinks they know what narcissism is, that it is just annoying people who think too highly of themselves, and are suprised to discover that it is in fact the definition of evil. I constantly recommend people go binge watch Doctor Ramani's channel.

[@birdieg3614]

I'm missing the responsibility of the parents in the whole generation Z discussion. I don't see why people need to be taught on how to have an uncomfortable conversation because that's something you should learn at home and in school simply by interacting with other human beings if needed (with their parents being a major part of it, especially for uncomfortable conversations). And if there has been no real human interaction during the childhood of a whole generation then there have some huge mistakes been made by a whole other generation as well. It may be true that the gen Z is missing some social skills (from an elder perspective) but who should teach it to them if obviously there is a lack of social competence in the parent generation as well? Which is the perfect generation to teach social skills? Is there any at all? Or don't we simply learn social skills by socializing and depending on whom or how we meet we learn different skills. And if the digital world and social media is the future do we actually need the old fashioned social skills anymore? Aren't maybe we (I'm late gen X myself) the ones who need to adjust to new ways of social interaction? Also you don't just stop learning at the age of 20 or so (neither at the age of 50). If certain skills are needed you will either learn them still or live with the consequences of not learning them. So does it matter at all?

[@toddmacadam3888]

I'm GenX and agree with you 100%. My generation did a HORRIBLE job parenting! Over-protective helicopter parenting, giving kids choices instead of telling them what to do, trying to be your friends instead of your parents, etc. That said, it's now on GenZ to recognize their massive deficiencies. Yes, it's true: you're like this because of bad parenting. But pointing that out is like pointing your finger at the person who shot you - assigning blame isn't going to stop the bleeding! You can rage all you want about how unfairly you've been treated, but if YOU don't do something about it, you're going to bleed out and die! The reality is that most of GenZ lack the self-awareness to recognize their glaring deficiencies. The same shitty parenting that left them so bereft of life skills also raised them to believe they're perfect and that anything they disagree with is someone else's fault.

[@ThatRandomFastingGuy]

The fastest way to a raise is to leave your company. No joke.

[@therealsandraweise]

Then you are stuck with yourself wherever you are knowing you are a coward. You. Know.

[@andrewwightman7206]

I agree the younger generation is uncomfortable with uncomfortable conversations. That said, People move between companies statistically make significantly more money in the long term. I can’t imagine many people look back in hindsight and wish they were brave enough to stick around and work for less. Cowardly is not doing what’s necessary to increase your income to better your family.

[@OSUBoxkator]

​@@therealsandraweise boy, you didn't take even a second to think before you opened your mouth.

[@Nickelodeon81]

Worked every time I did it. Even eventually after a decade returning to the original company with a salary way higher than if I stayed.

[@nikkithomas2322]

I noticed this happening amongst people from Gen X they would shut difficult conversations down when I bought certain points that needed to be addressed, I was told we don’t want to discuss such negativity. This was regarding children’s safety in a toddler group, these we’re parents of this generation ( gen x ) so it’s no wonder the Gen Z are so afraid I’m sorry to say I think this mind set started with my Gen X / Millennials the children have been scared into submission it’s a people control tactic. My grandparents & parents were so much more outspoken & brave . I couldn’t believe it when I was bringing up points of security for children’s safety how I was shut down & how everyone else there bowed their heads & looked at the floor, I was constantly told to not say certain things in meetings in the mid 2000 s by Gen x / mills

[@ickster23]

How much of a safetist are you? The ultra-safety religion came to the forefront with gen X parents. I'm gen X and a parent and saw it with other parents, especially mother's. That is why we have millenials who are afraid of their own shadow.

[@lewieanderson6579]

​@@ickster23well said

[@charlottewolery558]

I remember these tactics practiced on me in high school at the end of the 90s. I ended up declaring myself a fascist as a big middle finger to comfortable politics and avoiding difficult conversations. I had to make it clear they're consensus view of politeness and decorum had no power over me.

[@machinethesun9243]

Not all Gen X. Some of us have no problem seeing the bullshit, calling it out, and trying to get very clear about how to move forward - without going into fantasy, denial, or playing games.

[@_feelalive]

once you experience and learn narcism, you will always notice the red flags

[@Carte-Blanche-NZ]

I am a GEN X and I now work with a lot of Zs. I work in an environment where analysing is very important, but don’t discuss anything they don’t like. I find enquiry is shut down by Zs. I am so tired of the words triggered. It is a way of shutting down everything. I had to ask them to get off their phone in a meeting they invited me to. They were texting.

[@stoneneils]

I'll take 10 'triggered' over 1 'cringe'. I'd fire any employee for using that word immediately.

[@milothegreatful]

Why would the employer not have a transparent path to a raise? Im 38 and quit many jobs because I was undervalued and knew the conversation was pointless, Im tired of people summing up generations as a whole. Companies and corporations are predatory at this point.

[@ionabarker]

As a millennial who works with Gen Z as a therapist and counsellor I really feel for the younger generation. The stress and pressure they have grown up with being born into social media, having zero privacy as most were paraded on social media from birth, having to deal with the backlog of generational trauma from the previous generations, and global systems such as health and education that are failing them on a whole new level, no wonder these kids are conflict-avoidant. They’re in a systemic sugar-fuelled, vape-smoking-to-relieve-their-stress response.

[@mdmorris6193]

Every person deals with generational trauma to one degree or another. Each generation deals with the backlog from their forebears.

[@ArneChristianRosenfeldt]

@@mdmorris6193no they don’t. Read how wild animals relax despite being prey. It is just the way of life. Trauma built up after WWI . How large was the chance too be killed by a Roman sword? Really for normal folks?

[@mdmorris6193]

@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt you are incredibly fortunate to have had no trauma to deal with from your parents, and from the society in which you live.

[@ArneChristianRosenfeldt]

@@mdmorris6193 huh? History lessons may skew your view, but it wasn’t always the black death or this Volcano in 800 or so ( affected the whole northern hemisphere, but temporarily). Now we have fusion bombs, plastic in the nature and climate change for 1000 years and get told every day that we are superfluous.

[@kickblake]

You lost me at "backlog of generational trauma" that's therapist poopy-talk.

[@Libertas_P77]

My first ever encounter with ‘ghosting’ was when I was dating a girl who was quite a bit younger than me, and therefore fits into the Gen-Z category as one of the oldest in that generation. She did this to me, and I can completely relate to what Simon says about the panic that they might have killed themselves (she had some suicidal tendencies so she’d told me), then destroyed my emotional state for weeks and months afterwards. I vowed never to do something like that to anybody. About 18mths later she and I finally spoke and she apologised to me, so it very much speaks to the state of immaturity of the individual, and social media enabled this sort of behaviour.

[@AntoinetteSarpong]

Why has a much older individual who knew that she had mental health issues and was vulnerable did you date this individual in the first place?

[@Libertas_P77]

@@AntoinetteSarpong I didn’t say “much older”, so that answers your first question: wasn’t that big an age gap. Secondly we started dating and she seemed fun, cute and completely normal. Only later did she open up to childhood trauma and being depressive and have some mental health issues. This is typically how life works: people don’t declare it the moment you meet. A bit of a naive question by you to assume I knew she had such a problem going into the relationship. I wouldn’t have dated her had I known, by the time I did, I’d fallen for her.

[@ineedgoldenretriever]

If you will make your own research you’ll find out ghosting was always a thing, as long as this world exists

[@sargeklein]

A woman you’re ‘dating’ doesn’t owe you anything. It sounds like your feelings for her were not reciprocated. Ghosting in dating is so common. Sometimes it’s better to just not talk to someone. You sound like a nice guy simping over some younger woman because you yourself don’t have other options

[@IamAWESOME3980]

@@sargeklein Ghosting is not something you would do to a family and thus not something you would do to people who has invested emotionally in you and worse, plan to have a family with. it is a dick move and can take just as much an emotional hit on the person as family abandonment, depending on how far the relationship has gone. if you are gonna break up, do the right thing, and communicate your intentions. That other person would still be hurt, but it would spare him/her the unnecessary uncertainty and doubt.

[@tronlady1]

THIS IS ABSOLUTE GOLD. We don’t teach interpersonal skills at school and we bloody well should! Excellent points!

[@nerdyali4154]

Interpersonal skills are learned by interacting with peers in the absence of authority figures, something that is rare with the prevalence of helicopter parenting. Children would learn how to cooperate and problem solve during the many hours of unsupervised play they would have together in the back yard or knocking around the neighbourhood.

[@bender9222222222]

"We don't teach interpersonal skills"? Who's we? They are taught lol

[@seanfeehan2453]

Em, it’s the parents who should be teaching that 😂 Teachers are educators, not parents.

[@brushstroke3733]

Put them in the games!! 😂

[@thejohnbeck]

don't ask the government to do anything unless it's a LAAAAAAST resort. they'll take your money in taxes, do it badly, then demand more money to be a weeeeee bit better. when you realize you're lacking a skill, ask your friends and family to teach each other. Gen X.

[@dutchmilk]

One thing I truly hate is Gen Z seem to think replying is a personal thing on their own timetable. No it is not. It is a responsibility. I also notice they do a lot of assuming.

[@Alexander_W]

Well said. You are completely right and I absolutely cannot stand that behavior. From what I've observed, they are generally completely self absorbed, inconsiderate, and terrible at communicating.

[@wonderer2344]

Young westerners are taught to avoid 'fighting'. Kids are taught to tell the teacher instead of punching back

[@solzenstein]

Gen Y guy here. I was working at this family run company which was kind of big as well. The boss was borderline abusive and in the company, it was everyone for themselves. I had no idea how to do the job I was hired to do, I didn't know marketing all that well and nobody was answering any of my questions and the boss would just send abusive e mails at any hour of every other day to mess with whomever. Gradually I lost interest and covid hit and they let me go. And while I agree with some of the points made here, I also think that bosses can no longer treat their employees like that unless they pay really high salaries. People realized that they are not dependant on those assholes for money, they don't have to deal with that obviously toxic work environment. You know I would very much quit altogether than have a second word with any of the people from that job. Everyone was out of their mind. All of them were deceptive, manipulative and so selfish. That is not how it's supposed to work. Maybe gen z figured out something similar.

[@FaithfulandTrue949]

If you've ever wrestled with Leviathan i.e. escaped a narcissist/psychopath/sociopath THEN the importance of the last option - no contact as a solution - has its place... when you discuss difficulties & vulnerabilities with unsafe people, they destroy you with them. That's wisdom, not cowardice.

[@POOOOOOOO416]

Im on the cusp of gen z. I have experienced so much gaslighting, volatility, malice and manipulation from the people and institutions that have had power over me. I dont have these difficult conversations unless people have proactively demonstrated themselves to be capable of them as well as capable of taking my needs into consideration when making decisions. I also understand that dark side of avoiding conflict and have been on the receiving end of it many times from my peera

[@schr4nz]

💯 this. So true

[@jesus-on-demand]

True! We are living in the last days evil world. Unprecedented times hitting gen z the worst probably. Conflict avoidant - peaceful non-compliance and noncombativeness is a good response for one own soul. Blessed are the peacemakers.

[@FaithfulandTrue949]

@jesus-on-demand3729 absolutely 💯 remain hopeful for the meek shall inheret the earth. Bravo to all commenters here, it's time our version of events was heard! The righteous are wise as serpents, gentle as doves and as bold as lions 🕊❤️🔥🙌🏻

[@goatofdeath]

Disagree wholeheartedly with the point about needing to ask for a raise. If management doesn't value you enough to recognize what you bring and pay you appropriately, that is a failure of management. It is not on you to ask/beg for more, it is on you to take care of yourself and go find a job that will pay you appropriately. I have no sympathy for poorly run companies.

[@prasannakrishna6874]

You know at early stages of career you are expendable and replaceable. Unless you are an expert with 20-30 years of experience, u will be replaced in a giffy. So if you are a gardener working and dedicated person in your company, it’s your responsibility to let your management know that you are all those things. And that can only happen through conversation such as asking for raise. So it’s not begging for more, it’s marketing yourself and convincing ppl y u are better and why they should give u more.

[@dylanakent]

I'm late Boomer/early Gen X - there's another perspective at play as well. I think many people, myself included, have realized that the difficult conversations have zero value. I find myself making a pre-calculation on how effective that effort will be. It's poker - do you check, raise, bluff, fold or cash out and find a new game? Many times the battles are just not worth the emotional and intellectual energy expense. Previous generations were always taught to DIG IN and FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT. We prize the battle over the result. It could be that more recent generations are making a different calculation that's more expedient. They wouldn't keep behaving like this if it wasn't working for them somehow.

[@AnyaB18]

Completely agree. Gen Z have clocked onto the fact that their time should be valued and they’re not willing to wait another 6 months just to be disappointed by the mostly underwhelming corporate world. I don’t think they’re uncomfortable with uncomfortable conversations; they just know when they’re being taken for a ride.

[@walkingstick6655]

I'm also an old Boomer/X cusp person, 60 years old. I sort of agree with you about the calculus being done on the cost/benefit of parting with an explanation. But simply disappearing as the approach is very telling. What it suggests is that the person disappearing doesn't really seem to care about anything about the other person, never even providing a sense of closure to them, which is insanely self-centered. This would make sense with the current generations and I think it has bled either into or from previous generations. I guess the ghosters are people who, when they get ghosted, also don't care?

[@nocturnalsunlight3639]

​@@walkingstick6655The company doesn't care in return, so it would be one-sided of Gen Z to care.

[@stepanivanov3557]

It feels like they got it right. Explanations like being "undervalued" are not convincing, but they act more efficient even if unknowingly. It's even statistically true that finding new job gets you more money than holding on to your old one. I am not sure that it was different before (my country was a mess back then so not a good example) but now I totally side with Z on their approach to jobs.

[@dutchmilk]

zero values? what crock world do you live in? Shelter? sadly you dont live alone and the world dont rotate around you.

[@Sichuanbeef]

If management was planning on giving a raise, or would have been happy to give one on request, they would have been paying attention to their output and gave the raise unasked. It's part of managements job to manage these things. If they aren't just doing it, then THEIR output is lacking, and that is a problem with management.

[@Nafo-Radio]

Your interpretation suggests that the duty of management involves overseeing employee happiness, but this is not necessarily a requirement. Perhaps this viewpoint stems from the thought that if you were in a managerial role, staff satisfaction would be your priority. It's crucial to understand that an employer's main concern may not always be the welfare of the employees; rather, it is more likely to be financial stability or growth. Therefore, employees should also prioritize their own financial benefits to ensure they aren't disadvantaged. The companies job is to extract as much labor from the employee for the least amount of capital. The employee's job is to extract as much wealth from the company for the least amount of labor.

[@Sichuanbeef]

@@Nafo-Radio I can see how it might be interpreted that way. But that's not really what I meant. I don't expect my manager to manage my happiness. If my manager sees me as talented, or doesn't want to go through the process of hiring and training another person, then I feel it is their job to know what the rate of such talent is. If they are paying me less, then they very well might consider calling me into their office and letting me know I should be expecting a raise on an upcoming pay check to show appreciation. Otherwise, if I find out I can make more, why wouldn't I just apply elsewhere. I agree with what you are saying overall. Employers really don't care, it's a transaction. But they should also stop being surprised that people are leaving.

[@Nafo-Radio]

@@Sichuanbeef You thinking that part of their job is to recognize you talent job is part of the problem. They care less about your talent than you think because you are easily replaceable. Again their job isn't to recognize your talent, it is to extract labor from you at the lowest price possible. Your talent is irrelevant because they do the same thing with anyone. Also, their employment isn't worth risking on explaining why your talent is worth more money when the people above the manager know they can hire anyone to do the work. Most jobs are commodities that are easily replaced from another source.

[@Nafo-Radio]

@@Sichuanbeef Regarding finding another job, you should always be doing that. Always be looking for more money and have no loyalty to your current employer. Your only job is to receive the most amount of money for the least amount of effort. I don't even believe in giving notice. 😂

[@Nafo-Radio]

@@geocam2 Sure but on their own terms. That basically what I said. Always be looking for your next job.

[@jacquesmalan1762]

The rise of AI is making this conversation so much more relevant. Thank you Simon Sinek. Education needs a huge reset. Soft Skills will soon become the most valuable skill to have.

[@Imhexed]

I'm gen x, 1973. Why do employers wait till your uncomfortable before valuing you adequately. Were all sick of it! Quit and find a better employer, thats progress!

[@KYoss68]

I'm an assistant GM at a mexican restaurant and after seeing this I think the shift manager who recently quit may have done so precisely because she didn't want to have that uncomfortable conversation and that makes me even more sad to lose her than I already was.

[@lordawesometony2764]

I think it’s the superiors responsibility to also figure out what the employees need. Why does it have to be uncomfortable?

[@davedavidson8208]

I guess you should have paid attention to your employee better and given them a raise when it seemed like they needed one.

[@schr4nz]

Sinek's schtick is to make management feel like everyone else is the problem, well done you drank the Kool aid. Maybe try and dig deeper into what Gen Z are looking for from an employer, I'll take a guess: - less hierarchical (you're a team member not a dictator) - pay appropriately and provide automatic pay increases in line with inflation - a culture where they feel safe to raise concerns with the knowledge that real change will be implemented and not token change

[@johnfisher8401]

lol you dont know anything about the story behind this. Thats the issue with all these victim gen z kids, its NEVER their fault but ALWAYS the "corporationsss mannnn". Restuarants have a high turnover, its that simple. If you go into a restuarant thinking youre going to make good money you need reeducation cause thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard in my life. You know DAMN WELL that youll never make more than 20-25 an hour. @@davedavidson8208

[@archielarsen7792]

This is so true, not just in work but everyday life. The absence of being able to have "difficult" or "awkward" conversations kills great careers, relationships, etc... Often times you find the best through the nitty gritty.

[@joeevett9007]

In high school in the 80's I worked at Burger King. I didn't want to quit because they were great about working around my consistently hectic sports schedule. At least twice a year I would ask for a raise and they would say no. I quite and withing a few days they would call me back and give me a raise. I taught my kids to be strong my youngest would ask for a raise and his boss would give him goals to reach and if he could they would give him the raise. In three years he went from washing dishes to a store manager of an extremely busy restaurant at 19. Teach your kids to be strong and self sufficient.

[@twins123dodgers]

No, the game theory is very clear: you’re bound to get a higher offer from someone who doesn’t know what you’re currently paid than someone who does. Of course, there are exceptions to this but you have to be unimaginably lucky and/or insanely skilled

[@samithaqi2379]

I worked for a company for 7 years and was a team leader. I had to do so much work because of my position, and I was the only one who could do it. Almost two years ago, I asked for a raise, but they said they didn't have the budget for it. After 6 months, I left the company and moved to another one, and my salary went 50% higher. And I'm not a team leader, but just a normal worker, but I have less work, less stress, and more money. It's not that Gen-Z's are lost, but because some companies will not just treat you well.

[@stoneneils]

You got the better salary because you were 7 years older with 7 extra years of experience under your belt. Otherwise they would have given it to someone else.

[@bones357]

I was never taught social interaction skills. They don't come naturally to me either. As a result, I'm 48 and struggle with almost every social interaction. It's, frustrating, stressful, and professionally debilitating.

[@thatsmypredpod]

As a 24 year old that’s not scared of any interaction do you make good money?

[@simongloutnez589]

Lots of really important things are not taught in school : gardening, cooking, negociation (having difficult conversations), first aid, how to repair/make clothes, how to repair/maintain our homes, how to make a budget, basics of mechanic, basics of law, heck I think that learning HOW new knowledge are found and acquired should be prioritize over learning new knowledge, etc.

[@MetaPhysStore0770]

The only thing we learned to cook in school cooking class was high calorie sugary cookies, i was about 25 yrs. the 1st time i heard the phrase , " save money for retirement"

[@mikemuponda1781]

I think the biggest issue that no one seems to point out is the echo effect of social media & digital validation for gen z. If someone has a 100 million followers then to them that’s validation whatever their views that they’re right. Basically the more people follow me the more I’ll think it means I’m right. Also people will follow anything now, even toxic stuff, so everyone is right 🤦🏽‍♂️ even worse, the moment a person succeeds in a financial sense, suddenly they’re all knowing about everything else. What I’m saying is gen z is result oriented not process oriented. When They get the same result or even better they think it’s always because their process then must be so much better when at times it’s just due to a different environment or the echo chamber effect or fomo etc. Now I respect someone for succeeding but they’re a lot of folks out there who have a warped picture of their own success especially the youngins. More than ever, the concept of value has been warped and it’s not always the better product/service that wins now but rather just a game of appeal or think of it as instead of actually building something real, we rather just play the system intentionally or not to get the same result (although to be fair you can argue that for any generation).

[@theresadimarco764]

I just saw your show with Simon Sinek & Gen Z. I adore this man and the way he thinks. I want to first thank you for creating content like this showing with Simon that all the generations can actually get along, work together, and more importantly communicate with each other. We all just have got to put equal thought, empathy, respect & effort into the mix. Second, for having Simon on the show and creating a well thought out interview with him. I liked & subscribed almost immediately.

[@ZKhweziN]

So basically, Gen Z has energy for nonsense and not constructive things. Got it!

[@3bimini3]

My experience with them is that they either don’t understand compromise or simply refuse to. “I want what I want and if I don’t get it I’ll burn it all down.” There’s no middle ground, it’s all or nothing and “settle” is a dirty word. This seems to be their way of trying to effect change? I just don’t understand. If there’s a great outcome that is unattainable, an acceptable outcome, or a truly horrible outcome, if they can’t get “great” they’d rather go with “truly horrible”

[@P_Mann]

If management doesn’t have all of the information it needs along with the initiative to push a raise to a deserving employee *without them asking for it,* then the company (who is incentivized to keep salary expenses low) is at fault.

[@YoungSantasGroupie]

Having uncomfortable conversations shouldn’t be something you learn at school. Most kids would learn this naturally as they grow up. Kids used to engage in free and unsupervised play, often with kids of different ages. Disputes would happen, often older kids help mediate, and kids learn to work it out. They learn that the feelings of discomfort are just feelings, they will pass. And they learn that no one is ever 100% satisfied with a resolution; usually a good resolution is a compromise and neither person is 100% happy. This comes back to coddling and risk-aversion in parenting and in our schools. We actually teach kids that they should avoid conflict. Parents tend to step in and solve issues for their kids and this is more prevalent among the more urban, more “educated”, more wealthy and more leftist parents. This culture is also hella strong in our education system.

[@msg3tr1ght]

I’m an elder millennial/xillennial, I was incredibly passive aggressive and conflict avoidant as a teenager. I experienced life changing losses in my 20s that left me full of regret about not apologizing or saying what was in my heart. I was in therapy for 4 years before I really started doing the work and not just venting. I learned how to have uncomfortable conversations, how to apologize and make amends, and how to let go respectfully when necessary. I don’t think gen Z is solely to blame but social media has definitely made conflict avoidance and being emotionally unavailable popular, to the point where people of every generation are just adopting or failing deeper into those traits and behaviors. It’s so frustrating and sad. It makes it incredibly hard to connect with others on top of the fact that I’m physically disabled and most people don’t see my value. I wish people would change their ways before it’s too late.

[@seansmodernlife9823]

I think this is just a trait of being young in general. You don't know your value, you don't fully know yourself, and you haven't had a a lot of life experiences yet to build up your self worth. Asking for a raise is difficult when you have no idea how much your actually worth at a new job/new career. After you've been around for a bit, and have some solid skills and achievements; its WAY easier to have this conversation.

[@middleclassthrash]

If you knowingly underpay an employee simply because they haven't asked for a raise, then you're stealing.

[@toddmacadam3888]

What a ludicrous, over-exaggeration. I think I can guess your generation just from this hyperbolic statement that makes for a nice soundbite or t-shirt slogan, but has no logic or basis in reality. If you want a Coke, and would gladly pay up to $2 to get one, is it stealing if you're able to buy it for $1.50? As with all things, prices are set by the free market. Your value as an employee is bound by two numbers: 1) the amount of profit you generate (often hard to quantify), and 2) the minimum amount of money someone is willing to accept to generate that much profit Let's say I'm paying you $30,000/year to run my company's website. Let's say the standard for this job in the area you live is $35,000/year. Whose responsibility do you think it is to ensure you get paid what you're worth? What if I offered you $50,000/year for this job? By your logic, you'd be stealing $15,000/year from me if you accepted. See how stupid that sounds? So, you need to come to me and explain why I should be paying you more. You can point to the average salary and all the tasks you do above and beyond the normal job description. But I might point to your lack of experience, unsatisfactory job performance, etc. If I think you're a valuable employee who is worth more, then I'll pay you more. I'm sure this will come as a shock to you, but the rest of the world doesn't spend their days thinking about how to make your life better. Your boss might not have the slightest clue that you're underpaid. They have their own job to focus on. If you make them aware of your concerns, it's entirely possible they'll not just bring your salary up to the average, but actually exceed it if they think you're a valuable employee. Or you can quit, and the person who will get the raise that YOU deserve will be the next person they hire. Very selfless (or should I say stupid) of you. You go get a job for more than you were making, but less than your replacement.

[@middleclassthrash]

@@toddmacadam3888 Nice wall of text. I've been offered more money to stay every time I've put in my notice. I never leave over money issues, so it feels like a slap in the face to be offered substantial raises in the 11th hour. It is literally the textbook definition of being taken for granted.

[@mdmorris6193]

The other thing that astonishes me about Gen Z is that they have no idea that it’s OK to be offended, that the person who offended you does not have to offer a kidney in recompense.

[@serena6276]

Yes! So many people do not know how to have a friendly debate, a discussion of ideas or just agreeing to disagree.

[@Theo.M1989]

What Sinek is missing here is that the company's '''We were planning on giving you raise'' is the perfect gaslighting method even after we declare our resignations. Who would not want to have a reputation of a good and willing-to-raise-the-paycheck employer despite the fact that we leave his miserable enterprise? Majority of companies are not planning on giving us raise and if they say they do is only because we pushed us to do so due to lack of existing labourers and the fear of underproduction.

[@loveinthematrix]

I think it's important to focus on the differences between each generation and note their issues but the truth is, when we keep focusing on the little things that keep us detached from eachother generationally - we're not realizing how the system itself is what is perpetuating all of this separatism. In order for humanity to get to a better place, we need to take the ego completely out of it and have a spiritual revolution specifically coming together to realize that social media is simply a tool but what we're really missing is community and togetherness as a whole. This is cross-generational, there are people from all generations that are completely warped and toxic. The system controls us by doing an US vs THEM thing. Empathy plays a crucial role in bridging any gap between human beings - but when the purveyors of the system are highly narcissistic, we are all programmed by the same messages just in different ways cross-generationally. It's about detachment, getting out of this game. Looking towards the spirit. It's the only way anyone will get any peace here. These CEO's are great but they are rich as Hell and don't completely understand humanity now that they are so 'above' those at the bottom.

[@Zmiana_Pogody]

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[@Zmiana_Pogody]

you are SO RIGHT, great comment!!

[@loveinthematrix]

@@Zmiana_Pogody Thank you love!

[@noelm2855]

This is the most valuable comment I’ve seen here. I’ve been saying the same thing for quite a while. It feels like the system is keeping us divided for its own agenda. Time to come together. Love is the way.

[@LinguisticLifeform]

Such a great comment. We need to question where all this generational stereotyping is coming from and why it's such a media favourite trope. I'm old enough to remember when Gen X was criticized in very similar terms to gen z and millennials today. It's superficial nonsense used to divide people. Generational stereotyping is somewhat akin to racism

[@beckee6282]

You try being paid shit wages for a boss that would replace you in an instant. There is no longer company loyalty, these employers just don’t care about our youth. You’re seen as disposable because there’s always someone out there that will work for less. The competition is impossible to navigate I beat this guy would change his mind if he tried finding stable employment as a 20 year old today

[@avisnubia]

We teach what he's talking about on THEATER CURRICULUM! How do deal with people different types of people, how to handle rejection, theater is conflict! Tactics ti handle difficult conversations, grace under pressure, and problem solving backstage so the show runs smoothly. I teach this every day to college students.

[@StrawVince]

I'm from 1983 and have the same issues. So probably not a "gen Z" situation. I'd say probably more of an "ego" situation (inflated by social media) and a problem with wrong perception of contexts. I agree more and more with the fix though : "confronting" (IRL) the person/situation instead of (trying to) evading it. Because this allows you to get a real feeling of the context, and not only analysing it in your own head, with all the preexisting biases. That said, if this is indeed rampant for gen Z, than it probably means that gen Z has a self-confidence issue (with then over-reliance on ego / "how I think others percieve me"), and this is bad news and would be more profound than just some "soft skills" to learn, imo.

[@morganmorgan-morgan2582]

1983 here as well. I think you are right about the self-confidence issue. I can see how external influences (social media for one) can have an impact on a persons ability to assess their self worth. Positive workplace culture can help though - in my experience - fostering talented younger colleagues, who have the confidence to make mistakes, know their skills and have difficult conversations.

[@shanemitchell5807]

Leadership should give a raise to valued staff without uncomfortable conversations. Management will always take the piss and get away with what ever they can. It makes you feel undervalued.

[@BigBadBossu]

I'm 28, seeing the ones behind me in the workplace twiddling their fingers and muttering to coworkers about not getting a raise but not willing to tell the boss is so pathetic 😅. This will get worse with how caudled and soft society is becoming. Kids becoming adults too afraid to even talk about topics with their own family. Its quite sad, and yet they jump to throw insults and belittle once its online. Parents and schools failed to produce self driven, confident children.

[@Ashtarot77]

My son is 17 and working par-time at the college he attends. He's the only one who applied for the role because others attending there see cleaning up after others as beneath them. After only one month he has already received an increase and currently looking into salaries for his future career choice. It helps that he has an ambitious mum.

[@Weidjeep]

You are spot on. Everyone has a choice to be "something" or be "nothing". To constantly blame everyone else for you/they being a pu88y is well on you/them. Once an adult the only person you/they can blame is themselves. As we move forward Gen z will destroy this nation with their entitlements and racism. America will soon be a Marxist shit hole by 2050 mark my words. Blame boomers or blame your Gen X mom it doesn't matter because muh racism and gender identity is more important than individual sovereignty.

[@nottomclancy2439]

Yeah because school and university aren't the places one gets to become a self driven, productive and confident member of society xD Your creativity gets killed and you get taught how to be a cog in a machine. Parents can't wait to hold an iPad into their toddlers face just for the toddle to "finally shut up". Welcome to the future.

[@Ashtarot77]

@@nottomclancy2439 My son and his friend are 17 and his friend was saying how he refuses to do school work while they're on break and his tutors didn't like that one bit. I told him it's because they want to churn out robots instead of people who can think for themselves. I'm just glad these youngsters can think for themselves instead of blindingly following like sheep.

[@BigBadBossu]

@@Ashtarot77 Whats more important than doing summer and break homework is cultivating a driven personality. Use that time to try a business startup with the kid, learn a new skill/life skill or its just killing time.

[@damienbarton3910]

You under value me, under appreciate me.. That’s your problem when I’m no longer there.. Keep playing with fire. Every time I’ve moved on I’ve done better in the next area, it’s taught me to do it faster when the above happens. I’m a valuable asset to who ever hires me and respects that fact.

[@nikoc8968]

im 100% sure no job you left ever missed you, lol.

[@jakenuno9900]

I learned at a young age that company loyalty gets you nothing. Working for my first jobs I learned of old men working there for 10+ years, making less than me, and bragging of less than dollar raises. Very sad that I see this at every single job I've ever had. Pushed me even harder to go back into running my own business, and am much happier for it. What saddens me is some people can't get away from these jobs, and recently found out a past coworker just committed suicide because he busted his butt every day, and the raise that was talked about, just never happened. This is happening often. A buddy of mine just told me about the same issue happening at his place of work, the raise didn't happen, again, and they couldn't take the constant poverty, so they committed suicide. This is too common.

[@barbc7526]

This video is absolutely amazing. Simon Sinek's self-awareness is admirable.

[@Celeste-in-Oz]

The idea that a boss “would’ve been happy to give a raise” is speculation.. maybe Simon would, but he’s one person. Most jobs young people can get are - by virtue of age = experience.. jobs where you can easily be swapped out for someone willing to work for less.

[@Rubbinghandsschemingsomething]

That's not the point, I guess. The point is, Gen Zs are avoiding uncomfortable situations so much that they thought they knew the outcome and conclude something without actually trying (and worse, sometimes spreading their unproven thoughts).

[@Celeste-in-Oz]

@@Rubbinghandsschemingsomething I agree that was the point, but if you’re all about proving points, I’d prefer he cited research showing what he’s claiming, otherwise it’s just opinion.

[@Rubbinghandsschemingsomething]

@@Celeste-in-Oz he was asked for his opinion, so I think it's fair that he didn't cite any research.

[@Celeste-in-Oz]

@@Rubbinghandsschemingsomething you’re right, when you have a fan base like he’s built, all you need is your opinion, congrats to him!

[@Rubbinghandsschemingsomething]

@@Celeste-in-Oz not really, depends on the question. If he was asked to share his knowledge about Gen Z, then he should cite research (because it's labeled as knowledge, so it needs a stronger base). In this video, he was asked for his opinion. By definition, an opinion shouldn't have to be research-based. I'm not his fan. I haven't even read any of his books.

[@TheJase8566]

Leadership was NEVER planning to give you a raise

[@thegaminglounge7726]

Companies talk about values all the time, but no one brings those values into question. And I think people nowadays regardless of the year they are born are looking for a work environment that one can thrive in, and its all about leadership or management. It is the role of the manager to bring out the best in their team, without squeezing the life out of them.

[@lydiapicano8806]

Agreed but, sadly those companies are few and far between. Sometimes, if one really wants to thrive they just might have to be an entrepreneur.

[@matthewcaldwell8100]

@@lydiapicano8806then how the fuck is that gen Zs fault

[@lydiapicano8806]

@@matthewcaldwell8100 What the heck are you talking about? No one is blaming Gen Z.

[@matthewcaldwell8100]

@@lydiapicano8806 Where do you think the urge to psychologize their working life comes from?

[@lydiapicano8806]

@@matthewcaldwell8100 This is nothing new. Everyone does this at one time or another.

[@caleb88scott]

I worked 10 years to make 10$ over minimum wage. When I got one I was stock piling money in 2021 after minimum wage went up to what I make; new comers we’re making what it took 10 years to make overnight with no experience and the guys who’ve been working 5 years in the field keep making the same. Meaning with a certificate and 5 years experience I now make minimum wage again, and kids can make as much as me, and my roles value went from starting pay of 17 to 24$ in 3 years while living expenses doubled. No company will give you that kind of a raise. They funnel you in for whatever’s a good rate then in 3 years when it’s like you’ve lost 5$ an hour staying at that rate due to rapid inflation; the only way is to keep job hopping. The whole building switches staff about every 2 years. I’m the oldest there at 2 and 1/2 nobody stays.

[@Atclav]

Uncomfortable conversations follow you these days if the masses think you were wrong.

[@LiaSimpson-c7b]

I am a highschool teacher, I have been struggling teaching this generation how soft anf weak they are. Not its company’s turn to suffer bearing this weak generation. Cheers😅 goodluck to deal with Gen Z.

[@11Reload]

i’m a millennial and i always got more income by acquiring new skills end experience to apply in a another company then by hard work and asking for a raise in a company i stayed at I can give my best to my employers however My life is more important then my work and will always be My life is funded by income

[@puddintame7794]

Pointing fingers at Gen Z, Won't help them, you or me, The same stock as our grandparents, Who were educated in discernment, But today's kids are, who we taught them to be.

[@RolfStrijdhorst]

It's not only genZ is also genX. It's so easy to just cut contact. And I fell victim to that behavior a couple of times now,where honestly I have no idea what I did wrong. I think people are just detached from tribes.

[@RyanJohnson-x1x]

You’re exactly right about “so many Gen-Zers rather quitting than have a difficult conversation. But in that same breath, why should I have to grovel with my boss over what I’ve rightfully earned through hard work, dedication, and loyalty. The problem now a days is that the trait of being “LOYAL,” is now seen as complacency!

[@stoneneils]

@stevenbrown6593 You both are talking out of your rear. Sure, in a fortune 500 good luck, but a small or medium sized private growing company...plenty of room to grow, get higher salaries, cushier jobs, etc.

[@echoes4679]

I guess it's a question of why do employees have to tell their bosses they feel undervalued, underpaid...it's their company that created that system, do you think employees have the power to question and change such existing system?

[@tangobear3536]

After decades in the workplace, I think young folks have it right with job-hopping to get raises. You should get as much as you can before age 40---maximize your income however you can. Because work is not a marathon, it's not a sprint---work is dodge ball: your goal is to stay in the game as long as you can, because eventually you will get hit by the HR fastball. Pensions are gone, you can get a 401k most places, and loyalty to you disappears when the new supervisor is hired.

[@electricalengineer6502]

I think they know that the norm will absolutely not be "one tough conversation and then you get a pay rise"... the norm is "ask and ask and ask and the boss gives you nothing and strings you along for months". The opportunity cost of those months of waiting and getting nothing means you are better off just pulling the pin and getting your pay rise by moving jobs.

[@Eclecticphysicalphil]

It's not just Gen- Z. I'm familiar with people of other generations who behave as Simon Sinek described. It's a sad fact that indeed more people feel their ghosting approach is acceptable and perhaps that's why we blame Gen-Z because it started before, but snowballed with them. How do we get that attitude to melt away?

[@QuinnJACKSON-zx1dx]

Gen Z is a generation where everyone feels self-anointed at the same time.

[@poorasslawstudent]

A good company gives you the raise before you ask. Why? Because most people wait months or years knowing they are worth more before they quit.

[@ineedgoldenretriever]

What a “great” way to make your generation “clean” 😂👏 My parents early Gen x, always preferred to shut up uncomfortable conversations. And I had to learn on my own how to deal almost with every disturbing emotion. Now as adult, I can say I did pretty well, but it was painful, and price I paid was too high. My peers had the same problems. I tried to speak openly with my parents about some past and present issues, it makes THEM so uncomfortable, shocked and causing avoiding behavior. So instead of pointing fingers, and ineffectivly discussing “guilty ones” for hours, try to turn your look on those who created this effect, because it’s where the truth lies, the core.

[@missblondie7033]

You can not give what you do not have is a frase that comes to mind 🤔. Gen X ( myself included) is a generation left to his or herself when we were young. The wild and rural ones we were called and had to figger things out for ourselves without parental guidence. If you were an independant one you would be in heaven if you needed more support you had a difficult time.We were not taught to give a whoohaa about mental health for ourselves or talking about emotions. We do what needs to been done and carry on. Some of us wanted to do it different with our kids so we became " all hands on parents" with variable outcomes ...others were stuck in the same state we were raised and passed that on. I myself do not find it difficult to handle a uncomfortable conversation at all or share / deal with my emotions but then again i do not have children . I do see what my friends are going trough with their children. I get along with almost every generation young and old , the only time you can see that i'm gen X is when i think a person is wining. Feelings are valid always but after that i need to see action( the carry on principle) I'm old enough to know that every generation " blames" the generation before them and there is " good" and " bad" things in every generation but maybe with explaining where things come from we can understand each other better 😊

[@Stinkmeaner420]

@@missblondie7033 okay boomer

[@missblondie7033]

@@Stinkmeaner420 Hehe sure maybe it rubbed of on me raised by boomers 😉 Have a great day now 🙋‍♀️👋

[@nicholasparry6859]

As a person in their mid 30's who works 12 hour days 7 days a week by choice. I am constantly disappointed when I hire Gen z, or work with Gen x. The lasting failures of the silent generation.

[@stoneneils]

You aren't supposed to lean on your parents for emotional support, you are supposed to make FRIENDS for that, you sound like SUCH a baby yet can't see it..confirming this video's premise.

[@paulbradbury5792]

Gen X here and I've had many difficult conversations both with my manager and employees of mine. Far too many young people are concerned with money, even Simon mentions this. Focus on increasing your worth and skills. If moving to another job gets you more exposure to different and more difficult projects and experiences that is what folks should focus on. You will get paid more if your more valuable and if not then leave. My last job I got a 20% pay raise and a bonus once my managers realized what I brought to the table. And before I left my last job I was offered an $8,000 one off bonus but I turned it down to move to a company to get even more experience. So many people nowadays think so short turn, if your constantly moving companies and never gaining any additional skills it will catch up with you eventually

[@lorizoli]

Well on the other hand if you ask for a raise you might get 5-10%. However, if you've levelled up demonstrably you might job hop for 30+% especially in the beginning (Gen-Z). It might just be as simple as that. It may not be conflict avoidance, but the very opposite, some brazen swashbuckling.

[@inlyst]

The first time I heard Simon, I thought, oh man… he’s going to be a darling to the boomer types.

[@TheKeinash]

I believe Gen Z is like that in USA, not in the rest of the world

[@georgetosounidis5545]

I'm almost 50, so not GenZ or even close. If you have to ask for a raise, you are done. You shoul'd been given that raise a year ago. If you ask, talks will take like 6 months, back and forth, you'll be put under constant pressure, they'll start giving you examples of why you underperform etc etc. Meanwhile in 6 months, you can get 2-3 offers with the salary you want (btw new hires get more money than "raises") and you can go to your current company with negotiating power. However even then, i'd prefer to move as they 've shown they don't appreciate me and you'll be blacklisted. This guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

[@funknick]

In my perspective, a lot of these traits were already present (and still are present) in many young people who, like many young people throughout history, often lack self confidence as they haven't proven themselves yet. While the traits may be exacerbated by social media, differing economic states, and education differences, they seem remarkably similar over time if you read through history. There are differences to be sure, but I think it's important to remember we're all humans and mostly behave the same to stress and social rejection. Folks like to say their generation "handled it differently" but, honestly, when I get into it and account for more than one person's singular experience, a lot of the ways the youth respond to things is markedly similar to the way the older generations did in their time. They pulled different levers, but ultimately rebelled and shifted the world to better accept them in one way or another like every new generation does. Yes, there was maybe less public malcontent, but those feelings still existed for all those previous people. I say this because I worry we spend far too much time generation labelling and far too little time humanizing people as people. If you stop name-calling and just interact with individuals, life is a lot more productive. People don't want to be lumped under a "Gen Z is conflict avoidant" bubble, they want to be treated as individuals. As much as I appreciate Simon's views, I feel he dwells far too long in the generation A does B conversations. Instead, I think a better discussion might be to ask how we can make life, work, and society better for everyone. I worry that the generation label topics is yet another divisive topic that is meant to distract us as a society from working together and facing the bigger issues that face us as a people. Who benefits from infighting and vague labels based on age? Who stands to gain if the young and the old disagree and never cooperate? I urge folks to think on that.

[@stoneneils]

You are part of the problem..stop worrying about how the generations are getting along and just do your bloody thing. The whole issue is about over-sensitivity and many of you are repeating the same nonsense in these comments. We don't care to get along as long as we're ok individually and with a few friends. Neither should you. Its not a kissing booth or the prom.

[@lucasley20]

Instead schools are teaching the creation of "safe spaces" to avoid having those conversations altogether

[@DeletedDeleter]

And it's mainly Boomers and Gen X giving out getting mad or punishing young students when they defend themselves or say something offensive that the Boomers and Gen X typically don't like.

[@MacFernor]

I'm at a point where even comfortable conversations are uncomfortable to me. And I'm a Millenial, and old Millenial even. Can't imagine how Gen Z must feel.

[@westswell2757]

Bosses are not gods (For that we should be thankful). We can disagree and survive the disagreement.

[@MonaMarMag]

I do support young people with all my heart I do believe in them and their wisdom and creavity . Some parents could learn a lot from their children if only they had time , patience for them and knew how to listen what they want to say .

[@ritafernandes7218]

Wisdom is literally defined as “having experience”, it’s incongruous with youth. Sorry.

[@pauldsheppard126]

In theory this is true. But sad reality is that many so called 'young people' these days are so confused they don't know what they want to say they just want to say something so they spout all this crap the media is feeding them. I don't doubt that they have a lot to offer but individuality and self-confidence is being eroded by massive brain-washing. I don't blame the youth, it is the so called 'power structure' (gov/media) To save the youth we need to set them free from this.

[@WinstonSmith1949]

The lack of knowledge of dealing with narcissistic behaviour, boundaries and bullying is the problem. A different opinions must be able to be discussed... Otherwise all we have is war. The corruption of that process is the problem.

[@CTOSHLL]

His generation raised us so wtf. There generation was the start of the broken home. And there so prideful and often make toxic family dynamics. I heard someone call a 21 year old a "kid". Like they dont have respect and it rubs off on us

[@november720]

I don't see the problem being that they are undervalued, I see the problem being that they are entitled.

[@darksinge]

News flash: younger generation is less mature and experienced than older generation. Ground breaking discussion.

[@mr.kilpatrick2991]

yeah really lol

[@ouroboros6125]

I don't know... my impression with Gen-z online is that they are humorless, overly serious, confrontational and conflict prone. While Boomers and millenials are more easy going, light hearted, and easily manage to not take themselves too seriously. Gen-z online seems to interpret everything too literal and as if other people always mean stuff they say in the worst possible way. The most negative light. Note that this is ofc a stereotype and that I'm generalizing. It's a tendency pattern and doesn't apply to everyone of course. I'm not stating the following as a fact, it's an opinion and speculation; but I suspect that maybe a lack of confrontational attitude in real life, and an overly amount of their experience being online, they simply lack the social interaction experience from real life to interpret communication right. They can't read between the lines properly. When it comes to social interactions online my experience is that you can be more playful and use more lighthearted tongue-in-cheek humor more easily with the older generations. While Gen-z can find an insult in someone saying "hello". They interpret everything someone says in the most negative way they can. As if everyone online who says something always have the worst intentions. Again this is just from my personal experience alone so it's statistically irrelevant. The reason I'm sharing this is out of curiosity, do any of you have the same impression or not? Maybe even the opposite?

[@CTOSHLL]

Its not about bad jobs. Its about being treated bad. The older generation is very prideful and bitter. And they have no respect for young people

[@cidkageno4948]

Got that point

[@Johnzen03]

You may want to ask yourself if it’s the older generations…or you. Confession through projection rofl.

[@CTOSHLL]

@@Johnzen03 it's true. genZers have bad qualities too. Don't end a statement with "rofl"

[@noahraab2429]

@@Johnzen03Since we’re saying words with -ing: deflecting. You. Also coming across as bitter.

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Make gross generations much?

[@michaelharvest931]

One easy way for kids to be socialised is to have siblings. I’m the middle of 5, growing up I always had to use conflict resolution. Now as an adult it’s difficult to resolve issues with some younger people. They can’t handle discomfort

[@hrhi2874]

As an African who grew up with conflict I am kinda feeling like the luck one here because I feel like my generation in America need to learn grit, failure, loss, death, I mean for cry out loud, all the rite of passages I went through made me take life head on, not calling others weak, but I kinda wish I was born earlier than I was because I get along with Gen X and Boomers, I am a millennial. I don’t get it.

[@mattm8765]

So really the “strength/weakness” question, apart from obviously showing how introspective, and self-aware a candidate is, is more a way of seeing how aware of context (i.e. the role being applied for) a prospective employee is. It’s uncovering what the candidate would interpret as a strength or a weakness IN THIS CONTEXT (i.e. this job). “In the context of this job opportunity, this is what I would consider to be a weakness of mine and this is how I intend to manage/neutralise that weakness.” “This is what I would consider a strength of mine in the context of this role and here is some evidence from my previous role where this was of benefit.” It’s the candidate’s responsibility to be aware of the role they’re applying for. If, on the other hand, an entire generation isn’t equipped for, or understanding of, the roles that are available to them then society has failed them catastrophically.

[@David-135]

Gen Z don’t appear to have conversations period. Let alone difficult ones.

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

At 0:13: "Very uncomfortable with uncomfortable." The younger generation is uncomfortable with resolving conflict. I see more conflict at work escalating to HR unnecessarily. People don't now how to deal with each other informally. There is also elevated anxiety among younger workers.

[@0rnery0verwatch]

I think the reasons the complaints about work are getting louder with each generation is because we're progressively realizing work doesn't afford you much else other than the ability to keep working. No light at the end of the tunnel. So it reaches a point of "if all working here means is essentially running in place, at least make the jog a scenic one".

[@phoenixrising4995]

Why run for minimum wage, when walking also works. Even if you get paid $5 over minimum your just covering rent and food barely. F That.