Cloudwheel Donuts VS Wowgo Honeycombts comparison | Simon Says Review

[@andy_2221]

Holy crap production value for such a simple review. You are amazing

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Too kind! Production value is fun, I can’t help it.

[@KingHanma]

One of the best skateboard review vid ever. You have just earned a sub. Keep these coming! Thanks Bro!

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Nah man - thank YOU!! As soon as the snow melts away, I’m gonna have a few more!

[@shobushogun2405]

I just bought a wowgo 2S Max and I was wondering if I should get the honeycomb wheels from wowgo or try out the infamous cloudwheels. I'm so glad that you made this amazing video to make that decision so much easier for me while keeping me entertained the entire way through! You just got yourself a like and a sub, keep up the great content!

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Glad to hear it!! Which sets of wheels did you pick?

[@shobushogun2405]

@@SimonSaysCanada I ended up going with the 105 Honeycombs due to them being a nice middle ground which should be perfect for the commute!

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Awesome.

[@jake9854]

@@shobushogun2405 wtf ... u should ve go with 105 cloudwheel... practical the same price wth not?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Yeah - they weren’t available on the day I ordered them… 🤷🏼

[@tuncherferad6128]

Loving when the content is on point! Thank you for not turning this video into a sales pitch for Cloudwheel. What I like the most was when you said: Honeycombs are Perfect compromise between the two. Well done man. Much love from Toronto.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Thanks mate!

[@svyatoslavazizov8231]

God, man, you really love what you do. Incredible production for a ten mins vid, instant like

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Appreciate the good words! Thank you!

[@jake9854]

yeah the diff between them is indeed huge! 105mm donut wheel, vibration reduction: 30%, impact absorption:10% 120mm cloud wheel, vibration reduction: 70%, impact absorption:20%

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I need a bigger board for those 120mm… Wheel-bite is scary on a 2S Pro…

[@cameronkay224]

Man you are nuts, this production is insane

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I tried to make poorly-produced videos before, but I can’t seem to be able to do it… Editing is fun!

[@GoodControlz]

Thinking of getting a wowgo 2s instead of the x4 roadmaster just because of this feature. Cloud wheels, honey comb, or 90mm. The Versatility of wheels for a budget board is pretty cool.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

You can get Cloudwheels for pretty much any mass-production boards with lift kits - but go for the 2S Max if you must (or wait fir the next upgrade to the 2S line probably coming soon!)

[@JamesLee-po5lv]

I do not do skateboard or like it...but i actually watched completely. Enjoyed it very much. THANKS.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Nah - THANK YOU!

[@daviddransfield]

Thanks for the informative and very entertaining review!! Thank goodness we made it through to summer 😎🤘

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Indeed! Almost over though - leaves are about to turn…

[@esk8jaimes]

I use silver Toma paint pens on my 120mm Cloudwheel Donuts; the clear blue colour tends to go pea green after many miles/in the rain... Silver Cloudwheel sidewalls are awesome!

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I gotta check those out!

[@esk8jaimes]

@@SimonSaysCanada yeah, that see-through foam core becomes a bit of a gimmick after a while...

[@markcauser1743]

Do the wowgo honeycombs fit the wowgo3 by any chance?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I doubt it, but I can't seem to be able to find a definitive answer... The stock Wowgo 3 wheels seem much longer at a glance

[@capcom4eva]

How do they compare to Momentum Hollow Wheel Pro? Thanks

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Dunno, haven’t tried those yet

[@korovkin]

that UA jacket looks clutch! share a link :)

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Can’t find it anymore! Bought it 2 years ago, must have been rotated out… 🤷🏼

[@korovkin]

@@SimonSaysCanada oh no, that's the best part of the video! PS - i am over 40, and i am rocking the orange cloud wheels, but i never stopped for a second to think about what you mentioned about age and color. I am now riding them proudly ! :)

[@SimonSaysCanada]

My man! I’m onto neon green fof my Meepo Envy, so I don’t even follow my own rules

[@korovkin]

rock on! PS - Exway is the way to go :)

[@SimonSaysCanada]

@korovkin I’m waiting on them to know about my existence 😉

[@robbryan3044]

Since I ultimately decided to go with the Backfire G2 Black, over the WowGo 2S Pro (mostly because WowGo's U. S. warehouse won't have them in-stock for who-knows-how-l many-months, I didn't want to wait 2 months for a 'slow boat from China', I didn't want to pay an extra $121 for air shipping, and because Backfire still has better after-purchase support & customer service), I don't have the option of 120mm sleeves/donuts. Thankfully, I have a (fairly strong) feeling that I'll really like the 105s, and that they should be large enough. As for your weather...sorry. Out here in (usually-mostly) sunny California, we can do most outdoor sports - cycling, motorcycling, skating (roller & boards), etc, year-round. Maybe it's time to consider moving south, and west? Just an *idea*. 🤙

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I got a Backfire G3 and both the Cloudwheels and Honeycombs fit perfectly on it - but overall I prefer the 105mm. Go for that if you can!

[@robbryan3044]

@@SimonSaysCanada Regarding the WowGo Honeycomb sleeves, you indicate in the description, "specifically designed for the 2S Pro, but will fit any donut compatible boards". Have you actually tried fitting them onto other boards? I can see the possibility of them maybe fitting other boards using hub motors with a 5-bolt pattern (especially those using Hobbywing hub motors), but I'd assume such possibility becomes less likely with those using 3-bolt & 6-bolt patterns. What other boards have you tried fitting fitting the Honeycomb where onto, and determined/proven that they not only fit, but will actually work (properly) with? Also, what about grip (105mm CloudWheels vs 105mm Honeycombs) - has one proven itself better (ie. more grip) then the other?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I’ll pull the bBackfire out of storage and try a fit. You’re correct - it’s a 5 bolt pattern on those honeycomb sleeves.

[@robbryan3044]

@@SimonSaysCanada Did they fit the Backfire G2 Black?

[@capcom4eva]

@@SimonSaysCanada please lmk if it fits the old backfire g2. I’ll try anything, to make ride less jarring & stressful, I have the 2017 model. Thanks.

[@NobleV500]

What front facing light is that on the wowgo 2s

[@SimonSaysCanada]

The iWonder 2.0 from Amazon. Cheap & reliable!

[@rolly1496]

Glad I got that ,wasn't sure i made the right choice but now I seen your vid I think I did.👍

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Both are good - one has better packaginv!

[@ChuckLasauce]

Love all the effort you into those. Stay strong, only 4 more months of winter right?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

More like seven and a half…

[@iGobyy]

what about the 105 cw tho?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Probably great - but more expansive than the honeycombs for almost the same result

[@iGobyy]

@@SimonSaysCanada agree. thanks man. great vid btw

[@arrow1414]

Great review! My only criticism is that the wheels weren't the same diameter. That would've been a more direct comparison.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Went into it not knowing there were 105 Cloudeheels, my bad!

[@yurichow976]

Good video! But for me, i prefer Cloud wheels... Better smooth riding!😄

[@SimonSaysCanada]

120mm or 105mm?

[@jake9854]

but girls dont like the cloud wheels though

[@iGobyy]

just got the 2s max for dirt cheap. it has the stock street wheels on and that shit aint made for my area's shitty asphalt. should I go for the honeycombs? or just skip it and get the cw instead? I wanted to get the honeycombs, but thinking that asphalts outside of my area could be worse maybe I should get the cw instead? help?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

105mm CW or Honeycombs are almost identical in terms of ride feel. CW are more premium and has some color choices if you’re into that - but I enjoy my honeycombs just fine. CW 120mm are just a bit too big fod the 2SMax in my opinion.

[@iGobyy]

@@SimonSaysCanada u could still feel the vibrations after changing to the honeycombs, right? I'm using the stock wheels and the vibrations is just too too bad I'm worried that it would destroy the motors in no time, I stopped using it. Gotta wait until I get either the hc or cw. I'm leaning more towards the 120 cw tho. how's the improvement going from stock to the hc? I know u said the rate of improvements stock > hc > cw are about the same. meaning if I go from stock to 120cw, its double the improvements overall?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I prefer the 105mm on the 2S because the bigger wheels also take away some torque and speed. I have some world-class shitty asphalt up here, and the hineycombs are excellent at handling it. You can still feel some vibrations, but never as bad as the stock.

[@iGobyy]

@@SimonSaysCanada I don't really care about torque and acceleration. I just wanna use it to get me to work and back. am I gonna regret getting 120? should I really get the hw?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I think the 120 are just a little too big for this board. Potential for wheelbites on dharp turns.

[@proofofmyexistence]

Does anyone know what headlight he's using on his board?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I do. 😎

[@proofofmyexistence]

@@SimonSaysCanadaYeah, I dug around a little and found out they were the iwonders. Supposedly they’re kinda mediocre. I spent a few more bucks and got a two pack of shred-lights instead. But yeah, that’s a comment you made right there.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

@@proofofmyexistence shredlights are great - but they are quite a fee bucks more than the iWonders!

[@certifiedalchemist]

Too bad winter is here. Would really have liked a mileage comparison between the three wheels.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I would approximate about a 10% range decline when moving from stock wheels to hineycombs, and another 10% decline when moving to 120mm cloudwheels… But yeah, testing it for real would’ve been better.

[@graphicales7154]

Thanks for sharing this review

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Hope it helps! Barely had time to ride these damn thins before the play froze over.

[@jankat9337]

Do they work with Wowgo 3?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Looking at the 5-bolts arrangement, I would say probably, yeah.

[@黃煜夫]

Does the wheel slips when the ground is wet?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Yes it does. But to be fair, all skateboard wheels tend to do this.

[@henrychu5553]

Wait do you mean u can’t ride electrical skateboards when it’s snowing? I’ll be studying college in Rochester this year and I was wondering whether I should get a 2s max. The temperature there varies from 18f to 80f (-8c to 27c). What are your thoughts?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Anything less than the AT2 is pretty bad at handling wet conditions. The battery is not super-well protected and any splash has the potential to destroy your board (water + lithium = fire!). I wouldn’t trust the 2S Max on anything but the driest of conditions. Plus, those wheels tend to skid pretty badly on wet surfaces - I can’t imagine how dangerous it would be on fresh powder…

[@JMonkey25]

I dont think its exactly a fair comparison considering the different sizes of the wheels.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I agree. But since then, I’ve gotten somd 105 Cloudwheels and it feels exactly the same as the Honeycombs for me…

[@mattmallet197]

Merci pour ce review Simon! Je reste à Montréal et j’ai besoin de m’acheter des nouveaux sleeves pour les hub motors WowGo. J’ai de la misère à choisir entre les 90mm et les 105mm, c’est une différence de 100$ mais si le upgrade est worth it je vais probablement acheter les honeycombs. I’m waiting for your review to decide!

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Il existe des Cloudwheels 105mm aussi -mais pour une planche Wowgo, les honeycombs sont excellentes.

[@Gkiuangel]

Hi simon, what size is your cloudwheel? 105mm or 120mm? The cloudwheel website said wowgo 2s pro/ max go with the 120mm in the avaiable models option. Please advise thanks.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Mine are 120mm, which I find a little too big, all things considered. I *think* the 105mm donuts are also compatible - but the Honeycombs are fine 105mm wheels, if that’s what you are looking to buy.

[@KsOs.]

love it! Subscribed

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Right on! Don’t expect too much riding content till May (or the Onewheel GT) shows up! 😎

[@daveatkin7557]

Great video! I just water logged my battery on wowgo 3 is it worth just buying a new battery or better to buy now board. The 3's wheels are different size to the 2s?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

They just released the 2S Max - a (very slightly) more powerful board coming with the Honeycombs 105mm rubber wheels… A new battery might be worth it, but if you’re going to replace, go for the 2S Max or hey - might be a great time to upgrade to a more powerful belt-drive!

[@daveatkin7557]

@@SimonSaysCanada I live in UK, normal skateboards are allowed on the road whereas electric ones are not but with hub motors it's hard to tell. Also I slow down n push with my foot if I see a cop lol. Do you know any waterproof boards?

[@SimonSaysCanada]

All-terrain boards are generally water-resistant - but all manufacturers are a bit sketchy about such ratings… None of them ever truly are, unless you tweak them yourself

[@mister-besten]

The new wowgo 3 battery is smaller than stock

[@daveatkin7557]

@@mister-besten can it only be purchased from wowgo? Or could other batteries possibly be sold in UK?

[@eBoard3R]

🤙🏼⚡⚡🤙🏼 *Production quality of this video is* 🔥 I look forward to seein more of the skate content!

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Me too… As soon as this stupid snow melts away….

[@BallCant]

Awesome

[@bertrandmajorik6589]

Thank you for sharing with us AND the Canadian dollard thing is a nice touch....... Québec city ? tabarnaque, té pas loin.....

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Drette sué plaines! 😀

[@bertrandmajorik6589]

@@SimonSaysCanada Ch'ta coter du stade !!! Ta pas d'accent en anglais !!!

[@SimonSaysCanada]

J’travaille fort sur mon accent! Faut ben que quelqu’on contre-balance GSP!

[@bertrandmajorik6589]

@@SimonSaysCanada Chu tordu de rire !!!!

[@andy_2221]

Also coming spring I think I’m gonna invest in a better board. And have the 2s pro for whoever wants to ride with me. Ownboard Zeus, meepo hurricane, and new contender Eovan gts super. Think I’m going with eovan actually but who knows, always new technology coming out

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I’m committed for the Onewheel GT come spring, but that Propel Endeavour Pro S keeps turning my head every time I see it… Decisions, decisions!

[@DanielKwan]

Very nice

[@Ryan-bhuiyan]

🔥

[@SimonSaysCanada]

🤜🤛 🤟

[@yvan1340]

Hi, I am 53 years old and I bought the cloudwheels in orange color, i love it, I not fucking hippy 😂😂😂 joke flashy colour 🤣🤣🤣

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Iif it makes you happy, I’m all for it!

[@DSPangilan]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@SimonSaysCanada]

*Bows* Thank you, thank you!

[@warlockboyburns]

cloudwheels feel too cosy it's scary when you're going 26mph well it should be.

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Right. They’re not built for speed, that’s for sure

[@warlockboyburns]

@@SimonSaysCanada I wanted to go faster so cosy.

[@helllgod]

bro the real cost are 45$ actually wowgo honey

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Not 3 years ago bro

[@1BlackHammer]

Lol, great video

[@SimonSaysCanada]

Thankee!

[@tyhogue8316]

Why do you have to cuss so much!👎

[@SimonSaysCanada]

I’m just going to assume you’ve never been to Canada in winter… 🥶

[@tyhogue8316]

@@SimonSaysCanada I have!😊

[@SimonSaysCanada]

And you don’t (censored) curse?? R.E.S.P.E.C.T