Airbus Jets & CFM Engines: easyJet CEO Explains Airline's Current Success

[@Handmantoot]

Nice to see CFM take a win here. Good on them.

[@TankEnMate]

It's only a relative win; the LEAP engine has had it's fair share of issues, just not to the scale of the PW1100G.

[@PVZBlover]

AirAsia did the same thing. Choosing the CFM International LEAP 1A on their A320neos and A321neos

[@JimboJimbo-i4i]

It will never cease to amaze me how complex getting a flight to happen is, it makes me think there must literally be a million people working to make a single plane sometimes

[@William2512]

Absolutely, so many moving parts , so many people come together just to make planes fly safely

[@aerialbugsmasher]

This was one of the main things that amazed me in my first few days as an airline pilot, I've heard about it, trained for it, but never seen it in action and never got to appreciate it until I was sitting there on day 1. There's an insane amount of things going on behind the scenes that passengers are oblivious to, and I wish they knew about because it would surely reduce a lot of the uncalled-for grief my crews get over what is perceived to be a "dumb delay".

[@Kalvinjj]

If we consider all the way from mining the raw ore for the metals to the passenger stepping out of the airport of arrival, indeed that much. Heck even just operating the aircraft itself, from pilots, cabin crew, maintenance, ATC and such, it's already likely some hundreds.

[@JimboJimbo-i4i]

@@Kalvinjj the truly baffling part is trying to put quality control on all this. It’s like an ecosystem built on an ecosystem to the power of 50 The Milton Freidman example for a Pencil was thousands of people, can’t what it is for a plane

[@clivesoper8864]

It amazes me that P&W have survived the cataclysmic problems on the A320 series and how airlines such as Indigo continue to thrive. Easy Jet were definitely fortunate to choose both the Airbus and the CFM engine

[@stradivarioushardhiantz5179]

If only CFM Leap make derivative engines to power A220 Family & E2 Series.......the competition is on🔥

[@parimal7528]

Not worth for peanut quantity of A220.

[@JungleJetAviation06]

Add the CFM Leap 1C.

[@filledwithvariousknowledge2747]

@@JungleJetAviation06That’s a LEAP in name only (just an upgraded CFM56) according to industry experts unlike the 1A and 1B

[@JungleJetAviation06]

@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747 Oh

[@EpicThe112]

Absolutely correct and for the A220 Builder plates would now be A220-151 A220-351

[@Sacto1654]

Well, the LEAP engines are essentially developments of the original highly reliable CFM56 engine, so reliability is not an issue. I think that's why American Airlines chose the LEAP-1A for their A321neo fleet. Fortunately, Delta Air Lines, because of its certification by Pratt & Whitney to replace engine parts on its own at Delta TechOps, has not suffered the engine issues plaguing other airlines.

[@Wh0s.Sebas27]

AA would have never chosen CFM if they didn’t buy the a321neos that Alaske inherited from Virgin America, if u look closely EVERY US carrier that operates a320neo family, has chosen PW (Frontier is Half, cuz their A21N have PW powerplants)

[@Sacto1654]

@Wh0s.Sebas27 And they're all regretting the PW1xxxG engine choice, unless you're Delta Air Lines, who can replace defective parts on their own.

[@JungleJetAviation06]

@Wh0s.Sebas27 I have ZERO idea why Frontier split up their fleet with the engine options, makes zero sense…

[@mlx39996]

@@JungleJetAviation06exactly for cases like this. if an engine type is having trouble its better to have half the fleet have issues than the whole fleet

[@sundragon7703]

Perhaps it is time to have a compare/contrast segment on engine types and their problems.

[@dfdmcb]

A had always wondered why WizzAir pulled a lot of their routes. I guess the engine troubles make sense

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

The excellent Turin-Naples flight was ended on October 26, and A321neos were assigned to it. Now there's still Ryanair and Volotea on that route, but the former has uncomfortable departure/arrival times, while the latter is seasonal for some reason...

[@p4olo537]

They're not the only ones, Transavia (and KLM) made the same choice.

[@FanaticIdiot1]

Cathay Pacific was another operator who also went for CFM to power it's A321neos.

[@jacobnathanielzpayag3885]

I guess the bet that carriers made several years ago are now starting to pay off. Clearly, those who chose the A320/21neo with CFM engines have won.

[@3v3y]

It’s well known to Never buy a first model year car because they usually have problems seems like it applies to airplane engines too

[@rafaelwilks]

Not always - the Trent 1000 had excellent reliability for the first few years, and then when it matured, it got pretty bad.

[@ZRHTrainspotter]

I always liked CFM LEAP more than the PW Engines sound wise

[@AndrewRoberts11]

Supprised P&W didn't learn from Rolls Royce, whose latest Trent engines were similarly found to have issues with cooling and metal fatigue, in the sulphur and particle laden excuses for what passes as air in much of Asia, the issue being widely reported in 2017. RR had to reformulate the alloys used to resist the acidic air pollution, and increase the size and number of ventilation holes, to prevent clogging, and the possible associated overheating and failure. Then go ground and retro fit many aircraft. Cost them over a billion, and some market share, but much of the work was done while airlines were grounded in 2019-2020, when almost no new aircraft / engines were being shipped, and the maintenance crews were free from daily maintenance. Today airlines are flying, maintenance crews are busy keeping them flying, new engines are being ordered and shipped on new aircraft, with P&W having at least as twice as many carrying its engines, as RR. Makes it far harder to replicate the RR exercise of tasking its plants to primarily make replacement parts, and the maintenance crews, both its own and airlines, to remove, strip, and rebuild engines with freshly cast substitute resistant parts. Suspect this is going to cost far more, and cause far more reputations damage, as P&W plants and airlines are no longer sitting idle.

[@parimal7528]

Vistara & Air India are only airlines in India which went for A320 family with CFM Leap engines. Rest all are facing problems, either due to Boeing 737max issues or PW engine issues.

[@Trickyx786]

Now indigo to all are CFM and indigo is currently in the process of retiring the Pratt and Whitney powered planes and replacing with the cfm

[@sainnt]

WizzAir is grounding 40 of its aircraft for 2025 because of PW engine issues. I guess easyJet did get lucky. Ryan Air remains a very profitable airline. They just have a loudmouth CEO who likes to complain about things he can't do anything about, just like Tim Clark.

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

Time for a (nother?) aeroengine troubles summary? And why some like CFM are not experiencing issues that seem to plagua many new gen engines, PW, RR, GE?

[@macky4074]

P&W are using new technology in there engines. They are the only geared turbofan out there. None if the others uses a gearbox to allow the front fan to spin slower. It's a lot more efficient, and the engine is overall lighter as you need less HP turbines, and you can make the fan blades lighter as they spin slower. But it all relies on that gearbox being strong enough.

[@eduardodaquiljr9637]

Rolls Royce is also developing GTF engine,plane safety is a factor of pilot experience and maintenance program by airline.

[@oadka]

Hell yeah! That's the winning combo!

[@alphonsusjimos9758]

Same as AirAsia. Airbus Neo and CFM Leap 1A.

[@bharatkewalramani5280]

Ummm…maybe the problem is made in USA?

[@incediery]

Two years ago Swiss reported two consecutive inflight engine failures with their A220s...then Air Baltic revealed the shocking amount of engine replacements their A220s went through...but these airlines kept quiet because pratt and whitney had the parts and supply chain available to quickly address the issues but now its time the industry faces reality the GTF simply isn't ready for serial production... 8 years in services and GTF is still having crippling defects

[@firstlast1932]

They are heaving problems with the gears as well? I thought most of the issues were related to material contamination.

[@incediery]

@firstlast1932 at first most of the attention was centered on the A320neo naturally because of the amount of units...but Air Baltic shared that each air frame went through at least two engine swaps and the jets were barely 3 years old then....then recently KML started grounding is E2-195s so it seems the engine across the board has defects requiring heavy maintenance

[@firstlast1932]

@@incediery Yes, but some sources claimed the issue is caused by the material of the high pressure turbines, not the gears.

[@incediery]

@@firstlast1932 in this latest series of problems yes the high pressure turbine is the cause... But other components were wearing faster than they should

[@alexanderordinary2110]

if embraer had chose cfms for their new planes, they wouldve sold a million of them, especially with max program not going too well...

[@MustraOrdo]

*wears tinfoil hat* What if P&W and Boeing colluded together by letting P$W deliberately making shotty engines so the cheaper but not so safer alternative from Booing can have a chance of competing in a market they might surely lose if not for the lower output but better quality from Airbuff and Embraceher.

[@nearlynormal2293]

Pratt and Whitney should be required to supply free to the airlines exchange engines while the originals are being repaired. Having an engine down for 300 - 400 days for maintenance is wildly unacceptable. Such a requirement would most likely bankrupt P&W, which is what they deserve. After all their defective parts have already put several airlines out of business and likely will bankrupt more.

[@TheaH2O2]

They would if they had the engines on hand, but they don’t. Right now they have to pay compensation to the airlines for every day a plane is grounded and supply them the replacement parts, sending them a loaner engine would surely be cheaper!

[@Tina-d8f]

Well done easyJet.

[@shauny2285]

How do you make a small fortune in aviation? Start with a large one. 😊

[@MarceloTrindade1]

As the CEO said, they just lucked out! There were no "smart" decisions. The decisions they made just happened to be the ones with no future problems...

[@NoManDetected]

0:37 But we do see them taking the doors out quite easily.

[@richardwilcock2942]

Be it car or jet engines efficiently comes at the price of durability. Trent 1000 a case in point: P&W don’t seem to have a robust quality assurance system like Boeing.

[@cr10001]

I trust that was sarcasm about Boeing's 'robust quality assurance system' ? :)

[@richardwilcock2942]

@@cr10001 Sorry you have lost me. Boeing does not make engines which is what this piece is about so they are irrelevant. P&W failure from what l hear is components made from sintered metal which they have plenty of experience of.

[@biminduaberathna4513]

Can't Airbus convert PW A320 to CFM one???

[@MrSchwabentier]

No. Conversion is not possible.

[@cjever6625]

Why on Earth are airlines going for PW GTFs if there are problems in the first place? Are GTFs far more efficient than the LEAP?

[@MrSchwabentier]

Discounts

[@jon.limjap]

I'm curious if there is any liability that P&W has for their biggest operators. It feels like they're getting away with their engines and just letting their customers absorb losses.

[@delta_cosmic]

imagine if the boeing 737 max has to use PW engines...

[@smoketinytom]

Be the safest option… never in the air!

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

@@smoketinytom that would still be safer than a car

[@smoketinytom]

@thetruthbehindplanes Well, duh! A MAX plane without engines that cant work can’t move…

[@ramadhanisme7]

​@thetruthbehindplanes yeah but you can came out unscathed from a car crash, while good luck staying alive in a plane crash

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

@@ramadhanisme7 95% are survivable

[@iceman9678]

Trent & PW have been problematic an there doesn't seem to be any corrective action in the piepline.

[@georgewright9914]

Yeah.... Tell that to the Share price

[@Irondog10]

Good for them

[@seagullsbtn]

Airlines have constantly pushed the envelope of efficiency, but with the P&W, they have been at the leading edge of the mistake curve..... CFM being a development of a trusted line of engine was the smarter operational choice.

[@kkrsnn5632]

Yeah, when the engine is not problematic...

[@threestrikes971]

well good for them i guess

[@osasunaitor]

Unlucky choices: -Boeing (USA) -Pratt & Whitney (USA) Lucky choices: -Airbus (Europe, France based) -CFM (France and USA collaboration) I'm starting to see a pattern here...

[@AVB_42]

Fact: Airbus has been into more fatal crashes than boeing in last 15 years.

[@Therealprinceofcobh]

@@AVB_42 really? There’s only been two of note Air France and euro wings

[@MustraOrdo]

@@AVB_42 Citations sorely needed because this sounds like total BS.

[@Therealprinceofcobh]

@@MustraOrdo they can’t back it up because they’re waffling

[@osasunaitor]

@@AVB_42 was it the planes' fault though?

[@PAC-fp9hy]

Condiering this was released today, the news is old. Indigo and Spirit are both bankrupt and showing videos of Tom Enders at Airbus is prehistoric.

[@SK_A380]

Indigo is not bankrupt.. And ehh.. Are the planes build in the Tom Enders era prehistoric? 😉 (And yes, it has been a while ago already since Guillaume took over)

[@stefan7869]

Then there is the A350 and A330 neo that have problems with Rolls-Royce engine. And Boeing has also problems with their widebodys to.

[@gpaull2]

Enjoy it while it lasts…

[@nosleeppete5146]

Wow. Seriously wtf? The narrator says that Boeings problems arise from the strike and the door blow out.....and doesn't even mention the two disastrous 737 max crashes. I haven't watched further.

[@martinwtaylor]

He clearly said "this year".

[@TRPGpilot]

@@martinwtaylor I listened to it again. It was a glaring omission as he highlited things like the pandemic along other things which did not happen 'in the last year'.

[@SwordQuake2]

murican aerospace should be avoided like the plague

[@zrhmemes]

Rolls Royce is also having problems. The only trustable engine maker atm is General Electric from, you guessed it, Murica.

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

Both of you can not spell 'America'

[@EuropeanRailfan-AM]

@thetruthbehindplanes Murica is a meme term for America

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

Just call it 'America' I am tired of all the tiktok fans getting this brainrot and putting it into totally unrelated things.

[@zrhmemes]

@thetruthbehindplanes Tf this term has existed long before Tiktok was even a thing 💀

[@NotYourRemy]

At least the P&W engines look better with the cyan blue ring😂

[@g4orce703]

Wow not pw-gtf engines and not boeing... BOTH american companies..lol . They put profits before safety and its making us look bad on this side of the pond.

[@AVB_42]

Fact: Airbus has been into more fatal crashes than boeing in last 15 years. Also, CMF is a JV between GE (USA) and Safran (France)

[@gerhardma4687]

@@AVB_42 prove it

[@frutdafruit]

@@AVB_42 Since 2009 (because its only January 2025 at the time of writing), Airbus aircraft (A300, A310, A320 family, and A330) have been involved in a total of 9 fatal accidents, with the A220, A350 and A380 not having a single fatal accident. But since 2009, the Boeing 737 alone has 15 fatal accidents, so you're dead wrong.

[@zrhmemes]

@@frutdafruit I'd consider the A350 collision from last year a fatal accident.

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

CFM is american daily mail journalists! Boeing has more fatal crashes but when it comes into manufacturer fault crashes, airbus is dangerous.

[@philgooddr.7850]

Choices are made by pure financial beans counters nuts…, no longer by the pilots who must fly the junk selected..and take all the risks ..choosing a power plant just for a 1% fuel economy advantage on paper, percent which is more than lost in numerous engine failure rerouting,,downtime and flight replacement cost is simply insane and differentiates the wise airlines like Easy Jet shifting early from 100% 737 to 100% A320 then A320 Neo family from the worst stupid airline mgt.. The huge problem now is that good Leap are in short supply delaying deliveries. How could the FAA homologate such a totally unreliable PW1000G poor power plant . This is as bad if not worst than certifying the Boeing Max with an “hidden” and perfectible MCAS . one Swiss young steward just got kills by the fumes of a failed geared PW1000G which is std. on A220’s where the non-availability of Leap will basically kill the program..the most incredible fact is that a pionnier engine with planetary gear, the Garrett Honeywell TFE 731 was an excellent engine..!!! So something went wrong and cannot be fixed..

[@jantjarks7946]

Well, they were just lucky. They too couldn't know beforehand what the issue with P&W engines would evolve into. 😂

[@DustinPearce2957]

Still, they're lucky though not choosing the P&W engines for their A320s. I still don't know why airlines are even bothering to buy A320neos using the PW1100G when it has some garbage reliability over the CFM LEAP-1A though.

[@jantjarks7946]

Supposedly the new engines don't suffer from the issues anymore. And as an airline it's a tough decision to introduce a new maintenance chain too. Especially as new engines might come with quite a decent discount for improving relations again, on top of the compensations being paid.

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

Efficiency

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

@jabberjarks, his sub now goes back up and reaches flight level 0 to restock and refuel.BUT he is not enjoying the altitude and wishes to go back to flight level -900 as soon as the refuelling and restocking is finished.

[@jantjarks7946]

Are you ok? Well, really no point in asking this question I guess. 😂

[@_Erogaki]

Sucks for the airlines who went all-in with P&W's junk lol.

[@kevinwong1988]

EasyJet and AirAsia wins with CFM LEAP engines, while Wizz Air and Spirit lose on P&W engines.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

This gets very complicated from a financial perspective - 2, 5, 10 year outlooks are vastly different for operators of the A320NEO. 2 year, the non-PW engines will win 5 year, 50/50 toss up 10 year, GTF engines will deliver massive fuel burn savings

[@garycusack9247]

cant win wrong plane right engine or right plane wrong engine

[@Charles-b2t]

Are you listening Air Baltic !!!! No CFM for you..

[@corneliusanderson-t3y]

clever peoples does good choise,pay a littel morre is better.

[@williamwildcat]

Hmmmm yes, I have been rather successful recently

[@bekicot88]

Most countries buy Boeing because of geopolitical pressure

[@JungleJetAviation06]

Smart of them for not being the airline to cater to the cheaper, trash engine option.

[@AutieTortie]

GTF?! More like GTFO 😂😂😂

[@EuropeanRailfan-AM]

*GET OUT* 🗣🔥

[@mel0214]

Jet Blue is in trouble, Spirit is in trouble, and Frontier is in trouble. What do they all have in common? AIRBUS.

[@matthiashehn4410]

What do we learn from this, stop buying American made crap