Simplest OBD2 engine remapper yet, with actual canbus connection.

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Yet another of these universal OBD (On Board Diagnostic) port engine remappers that claim to analyse your driving and then rewrite key parameters in your ECU (Engine/Electronic Control Unit) to offer greater power with less fuel.
I bought this one because it showed a picture of the PCB in the listing, showing that it uses an eight pin microcontroller and appears to have actual connections to the canbus network on the OBD port.
The power pin placement on the microcontroller is odd. I don't immediately recall a similar pin layout. It would be interesting to know if it's a standard device. It's not a Padauk chip as far as I can see.
In standby the module enters a passive mode at 9mA where it pulses the communication LED. When activity is detected on the canbus network it directly affects the green LED and after a short time triggers the power LED to come on and the communication LED to start flickering. If the canbus becomes inactive the unit goes into standby mode after about a minute.
Because the chip has a direct connection to the canbus network it is possible for a malfunction to take out the network in your vehicle and cause lots of random problems when the other devices on that network are unable to respond to the ECU.
The unit is fake. It's a placebo. To store suitable details for every single car since 1996 it would need to be able to identify models if it could read the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) code and then have a database of parameters that could be adjusted with a suitable tuning algorithm for every model. That's not viable for a little 8 pin chip and most cars don't have the facility to make significant changes to the ECU tuning settings via the OBD port.
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@rGunti
@rGunti 3 жыл бұрын
I‘ve actually once DoS‘ed my own car while working on the OBD port. I‘ve tried creating my own fuel economy gauge and because I sent the commands too fast my car freaked out. The running engine just simply turned off and it gave me a few warning lights to enjoy. Stopped the script, unplugged the cable, turned off the car and restarted it and everything was back to normal. But that was certainly a shock moment.
@Nbomber
@Nbomber 2 жыл бұрын
lmao, thats actually kinds unusual and funny
@naysmith5272
@naysmith5272 2 жыл бұрын
that's pretty cool
@Oscar4u69
@Oscar4u69 2 жыл бұрын
too many interrupts lol
@28YorkshireRose12
@28YorkshireRose12 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive, all the way through the 1960s '70s and into the 80s, there was a much cheaper way to make your car go faster.... You bought a roll of "Pinstripe" tape and stuck along both sides of your car - guaranteed to increase your top speed by up to ten miles per hour. Of course, if you only put it on one side of the car, it would go faster on the outbound leg of your journey, or on the other side, it would go faster on the inbound leg. If you wanted rally performance, you bought a much wider tape and stuck it all along the top of the bonnet, roof and boot lid. better still, stick some vinyl numbers on your front doors! These all worked equally well. All you had to do was to believe in unicorns and pixie dust.
@DaveF.
@DaveF. 5 жыл бұрын
'30 to 54 seconds' - nice - that's both strangely vague and weirdly specific.
@waltermeerschaert
@waltermeerschaert 5 жыл бұрын
those were translated from metric seconds...
@AbsoluteBarstool
@AbsoluteBarstool 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, imperial seconds are a bit strange compared to actual seconds
@odifyltsaeb8846
@odifyltsaeb8846 5 жыл бұрын
Easy - somebody tried for 30 to 45, but spelled 45 backwards.
@vegancyclist8853
@vegancyclist8853 5 жыл бұрын
what is the length this video should have been for 500.
@Roudter
@Roudter 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these as a generic elm327 unit, for something like $13 US...I was testing some software and wanted a poorly rated dongle to see if I could make it work and at the same time, make my software more robust. But, in fact, the thing failed electrically. It went bad and did cause issues in my car that required more than one cycle of the key. You are 100% correct - as usual.
@DrathVader
@DrathVader 5 жыл бұрын
The most useful thing about these is the diagram at the back of the manual showing where the OBD port is.
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 5 жыл бұрын
I have also noticed that Clive keeps saying "Ah, let's a" in his videos and it sets my Amazon Alexa off. I had to change the name to Echo....Bloody interesting videos though....One of my fave youtubers..
@mikecowen6507
@mikecowen6507 5 жыл бұрын
Wait til Clive says something about ordering a pallet of dog food...
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikecowen6507 I can imagine that turning up at my door...That's why I changed the name to echo...Strange how only Clive sets it off. It must be an electrical affinity.
@dickJohnsonpeter
@dickJohnsonpeter 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people don't mind everything they say in their home being recorded. I couldn't handle the feeling of privacy invasion.
@mikecowen6507
@mikecowen6507 5 жыл бұрын
@@dickJohnsonpeter 🎶Big Brother, like it's 1984 🎶
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 5 жыл бұрын
@@dickJohnsonpeter It's not...
@seavee2000
@seavee2000 5 жыл бұрын
Great-a machine that goes ping but in a tiny package.Amazing what modern technology brings to enrichen our lives. Cheers Clive
@stuartmorris4694
@stuartmorris4694 5 жыл бұрын
I've used these devices for years even in non ECU vehicles very impressive mpg and severe power and bottom end torque. But now I run my car on hho only using jam jar with some 316l stainless springs inside it connected to the battery through a special on off switch it all cost a lot of money made by experts. I did want to make my own but I'm only a mechanical and electrical engineer.
@stuartmorris4694
@stuartmorris4694 2 жыл бұрын
@Edward Elizabeth Hitler Hi Edward I don't know where this post came from but it wasn't me can you send me a link to the original video Many thanks Stuart
@cambridgemart2075
@cambridgemart2075 5 жыл бұрын
There's a poster spamming on Facebook who keeps popping up claiming one of these units gives 30% improvement in fuel economy and that they were tested on TV (in the UK) and that the petrol companies want these banned. I added a link to your channel for those who want to find out how genuine these things are!
@klausstock8020
@klausstock8020 3 жыл бұрын
Don't. I am developing an OBD2 multiplexer, so you can have FOUR ports in your car. With four of these fuel-saver units plugged in, you can save 120% fuel!!!11!!""""""!!!!!
@tinygriffy
@tinygriffy 5 жыл бұрын
probably the cheapest source of a canbus connector with case for your own projects ;) can high , can low, can not XD
@theLuigiFan0007Productions
@theLuigiFan0007Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Not wrong... I might have to grab a couple of them, as I have been wanting to design some sorta HUD projector.
@dynorat12
@dynorat12 Жыл бұрын
I've had to deal with a few people that had bought those and tried to tell them it all a scam but some people don't believe what you tell them sometimes I'll do a fuel consumption test to prove they don't work love the video thank you
@UnrealVideoDuke
@UnrealVideoDuke 5 жыл бұрын
Should get one of those dubious snooping OBD devices that are given to the customers of an Insurance company and see what those actually do.
@ethanpoole3443
@ethanpoole3443 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know for certain, but I strongly suspect they measure throttle response (possibly) and use an accelerometer (almost certainly) and possibly mileage driven to determine how aggressively one accelerates, brakes, and corners over a period of time as well as how much driving you do over a month - essentially testing for aggressive driving. These days they may as well use a smartphone app to record the same.
@Abdega
@Abdega 5 жыл бұрын
I hate those things, Especially when they beep, Especially from jerks pulling out in front of you, In a large city…
@AThreeDogNight
@AThreeDogNight 5 жыл бұрын
@Dave Micolichek, Yes it is GPS & not actual accelerator.
@g2g591
@g2g591 5 жыл бұрын
@@ethanpoole3443state farm does use an app, with a bluetooth beacon to stick in your car so it knows when to actually track. (not riding in another vehicle)
@FaultyStreams
@FaultyStreams 5 жыл бұрын
Some have a slow mobile connection to upload data...
@xirabolt
@xirabolt 5 жыл бұрын
I love how the pushbuttons have the four legs like that. My new garage door opener has one of those 'smart' wall control panels so I couldn't just use a doorbell switch inside the house to open the door. Soldered my doorbell switch right to the contacts on that pushbutton and as far as it's concerned, I'm pushing the smart control panel's Open button.
@Kidiot
@Kidiot 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty neat - I wondered about these push buttons recently, like why 2 poles but it's a nice bonus for sure. Thanks for the insight on this, turning normally two button presses into 1 while keeping circuits independent
@planetfoxdotnet
@planetfoxdotnet 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of those things that if you're a kind of shady mechanic and you see one of these on someone's car you immediately think "I can get away with charging this person for anything" and you end up getting a bill for rotating your spark plugs or changing your driveshaft fluid.
@RGChandler
@RGChandler 5 жыл бұрын
I remember, back in the early days of Ebay, people were selling "performance chips" with ludicrous claims like +20BHP and the like, and it was just a 1w resistor that you connected in series with the intake air temp sensor, to fool the ECU into thinking its breathing colder, denser air and adding more fuel. Lots of people on the car forums back then swore they worked!
@brianborell4469
@brianborell4469 5 жыл бұрын
They still sell them. They do work to generate easy income for the seller. LOL
@driftingabstract4076
@driftingabstract4076 5 жыл бұрын
You can gain 150 hp by adding a 4" exhaust and chipping a 7.3L Ford super duty. Fact. You also need to add gauges to monitor your engine. The motors are extremely tuned down for long term reliability.
@ATF2099
@ATF2099 5 жыл бұрын
​@@driftingabstract4076 HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE QUEEN WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF AIRFLOW!! What's next , MAGICAL GEARS THAT ALLOW YOU TO GO FASTER THAN THE OUTPUT SHAFT??? you'd probably call that a transmission you WIZARD!!
@ATF2099
@ATF2099 5 жыл бұрын
push that tow/haul button immediately and return to street legal mode.
@driftingabstract4076
@driftingabstract4076 5 жыл бұрын
@@ATF2099 Wizard you say? Oh you just wait until we hit 88! I put these on all my vehicles, they actually turn your car into a time machine! It's AMAZING what is packed into these little boards.
@betterthannotgoodmtb
@betterthannotgoodmtb 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and insightful video sir. That thing is as basic as many of the ignition disablers I've encountered that used car dealers use. Those things are so annoying when they start going bad. They cause all sorts of running problems. I can only imagine that over time this bugger would do the same.
@Mike-xt2ot
@Mike-xt2ot Жыл бұрын
Me as well. I've found a few hidden with wires tapped into obd wires instead of port. Units like this do not allow the computer to go to sleep resulting in a current draw and if vehicle isn't driven alot causes battery to die.
@viconearth6220
@viconearth6220 5 жыл бұрын
Hello from Florida USA. Always a pleasure to watch your videos. You have a fantastic speaking voice and vast technical expertise.
@brianallen9810
@brianallen9810 5 жыл бұрын
About as useless as that water quality tester that you plugged into the mains, just a lot safer. I love these teardowns of bogus electronics.
@SteveSummers
@SteveSummers 5 жыл бұрын
Nice overview 👍. Wish I had 10% the electronic knowledge you have. Well done.
@DeadDevilTeemo
@DeadDevilTeemo 2 жыл бұрын
you are not alone :D love when he Make the Schematics. so many Years Ago i worked with that and undetstood it, so now it just looks weeird but still cool to see
@dragan3290
@dragan3290 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you are pulling this garbage apart and testing. Keep up the good work! People need to be warned! It's the same as nitro obd 2. Just revamped! I gotta buy one lol. Nothing compares to the placebo effect after 200 miles of driving. Amazing!😂👍👍👍👍
@toddbellows5282
@toddbellows5282 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done video. It's amazing these sellers get away with such a scam.
@mikea683
@mikea683 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is an STC Micro STC15F104W-35I-DIP8 based on the pinout! It bugged me so I went on a treasure hunt!
@miaudottk9080
@miaudottk9080 5 жыл бұрын
I think I've identified that chip: It's a Myanmar produced micro-controller TR-011-U. It has 4 GPIO pins, ISO 11898-1:2015 bus, 8Mb of RAM and a frequency of 600MHz. Really cool stuff!
@7006608
@7006608 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mia. I googled for the MCU, couldn't find it. can you share a link ?
@chemik166
@chemik166 2 жыл бұрын
@@7006608 TR-011-U -> TROLLU -> Trolling You :D
@7006608
@7006608 2 жыл бұрын
@@chemik166 He got me so good that I started researching about Myanmar. I spent so much time going through findchips and baidu to track it.
@slowstang88
@slowstang88 3 жыл бұрын
OBD2 started in 1995 for some Ford vehicles in the colonies. My 1995 Ford Ranger is full on OBD2, been told it's not but scanners read it fine and I've changed to a later EEC from 2001 for higher resolution timing control with no problems.
@pyromaniac303
@pyromaniac303 5 жыл бұрын
Pinout matches an STC15F101W, little micros currently retailing around £0.15-0.20 in volume. Can find them on LCSC
@Toobula
@Toobula 5 жыл бұрын
I really like this theory. If so, the Can Bus is connected to I/O pins at 5 and 6. LEDs are connected to I/O lines at 3, 7 and 8. This microcontroller has on-board clock, RAM and a big EPROM so it is fully self-contained. This means that it could easily be talking to the CAN Bus and could actually be doing something. The next thing would be to analyze the CAN traffic to see what is happening. Good find.
@bigcheese781
@bigcheese781 5 жыл бұрын
@@Toobula: No need, no CAN-controller and no CAN-tranciever in that chip. You can find chips with built-in CAN-controllers but all CAN-trancievers are external. Also, crystal oscillator is missing...
@ArionRaine
@ArionRaine 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigcheese781 Not true. There are some micros with built in CAN transceivers. They are few and far between, yes, but do exist. Crystal oscillator is not an absolute requirement. It can run on the internal RC oscillator. Some have trimming registers for tuning, as well as PLL's for multiplying the clock. However you are correct that this micro is unlikely to have a CAN transceiver. So successfully communicating on the CAN bus would be difficult. I will not say impossible, as there is some trickery that could make it possible.
@bigcheese781
@bigcheese781 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArionRaine Really, there are? Can you mention one that has the tranceiver built in? (I'm not aware of a single 8 pin chip that even has a controller, no less the tranciever).
@ArionRaine
@ArionRaine 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigcheese781 I did not specify they were 8 pin, nor did you imply your statement was limited to 8 pin devices. But yes, not likely in an 8pin device unless it is a custom IC, and they def aren't doing that for these. Off the top of my head I think ST has at least one L99xx part with transceiver. I am unsure if the part is available outside of automotive agreement's however. I think maybe the EBV Epona line of automotive regulator IC's may have them, but I am unsure.
@MarvinStroud3
@MarvinStroud3 5 жыл бұрын
In Austin, Texas in 1953 a man sold "gasoline pills". He appeared to pour water into his gasoline (petrol) tank, add a pill and start the motor. An old old hoax.
@TheFlyingBusman
@TheFlyingBusman 5 жыл бұрын
Just love the typical Clive sarcasm. A device that serves about as much purpose as a handbrake on a canoe methinks!
@tomvleeuwen
@tomvleeuwen 5 жыл бұрын
Most modern cars have a dedicated diagnostic CAN-bus connected via a gateway, so a broken or sketchy device on the OBD2 port will not cause a warning light (unless you are deliberately sending packets to certain ECUs)
@MorgoUK
@MorgoUK 5 жыл бұрын
Clive, rather than Patreon, have you ever thought about selling personally signed ‘Spudgers’? The Universal non-lethal hand tool!
@FarWesternGarrison
@FarWesternGarrison 5 жыл бұрын
I would buy one.
@spudhead169
@spudhead169 5 жыл бұрын
Sign me up for one
@cyberdyne981
@cyberdyne981 5 жыл бұрын
I would be proud to have one in my toolbox! "Take it to bits!"
@rpbajb
@rpbajb 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta' change the name, though. 'Spudger' sounds like some kind of potato dish in the US.
@Quick_Fix
@Quick_Fix 5 жыл бұрын
I have the iSesamo, but would certainly prefer a real BigClive-O-Spudger instead. 👍
@plasmaburndeath
@plasmaburndeath 5 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when Clive has a new video. Tip to anyone who wants to support KZbinrs but may not have disposable income; let the add play they get more AdSense if ad actually plays :)
@maicod
@maicod 5 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed you had that OBD breakout box.
@jbdragon3295
@jbdragon3295 3 жыл бұрын
When I worked on Cars. We did sell Power Programmers for Trucks and SUV's. But they actually did something. They were in the $300-$500 range. It was a much larger Box. It would actually save a copy of your program in the Programmer so that you could restore it back to factory default. Then you can go through the settings to change the things you want to do. But generally, to get the best performance, you would have to set it to Premium Fuel. At that point, you would have to fill up using Premium Fuel ONLY. No more Regular or Mid-range. They actually did do what they were supposed to do. Nothing like this little toy thing that is shown here. It does a whole lot of nothing.
@JayMoravec
@JayMoravec 5 жыл бұрын
Big card and dummy walk through for a plc controls sparky was perfect. Thank you Clive
@madbstard1
@madbstard1 5 жыл бұрын
Only turbo boost I get in my car is if I drive down a really steep hill, with a strong following wind while I drink a large espresso!
@daler.newbury9967
@daler.newbury9967 5 жыл бұрын
That would be a Rolls Royce. Rolls down one hill and up the other.
@Equiluxe1
@Equiluxe1 5 жыл бұрын
@@daler.newbury9967 That's a Rolls canhardly. Rolls down the hill can hardly get up.
@TheSiodmy
@TheSiodmy 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried painting it red?
@therealjammit
@therealjammit 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to paint speed stripes. Gain another 10hp easily. The only turbo my Ford truck gets is when the number four cylinder accidentally fires.
@garrygemmell5676
@garrygemmell5676 5 жыл бұрын
Must be a Fiat 500 then - I take it you cannot go up hills!! Must be a real bummer having to get out to push it up hills! >;o)
@SiriusSolar
@SiriusSolar 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for confirming suspicions. I'm a mechanic who saw these things and thought to myself yeah right first of all reprogramming like you said is quite geeki and can't be done with a cheap unit even if it is an off-brand one. In fact most tuning requires disassembling the computer and can't be done through the OBD port
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 5 жыл бұрын
Actually although the CAN bus can be expected to be firewalled off between the diagnostic and the engine section, and thus will not be used for programming in any official capacity or by tools intended for professionals, just about every single unit in existence has exploits which breach the firewall. Once you do these kinds of things, a hard brick becomes fairly probable. I ran into numerous security research papers. And still, these are all going to be fake, for so many reasons.
@SuperFredAZ
@SuperFredAZ 3 жыл бұрын
what is so ridiculous is all the auto manufacturers have hundreds of engineers all attempting to improve fuel economy, while maintaining power, each spending many hours are year doing so. Simply buying this $4 unit will learn your driving and improve fuel economy, while improving power, amazing how smart these designers are!
@SB-vb8ch
@SB-vb8ch 5 жыл бұрын
9mA is actually quite a lot in quiescent terms within an automotive context. Most regular cars are
@BjornV78
@BjornV78 5 жыл бұрын
It's a Plug & Pray device :-) Plug it in, and pray for a miracle.
@kjsud5546
@kjsud5546 5 жыл бұрын
The instructions were missing the key steps of rubbing your belly & tapping your head once its been plugged in.
@dogmeat7486
@dogmeat7486 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about tapping your heels together and saying "There's no place like blind consumerism" 3 times.
@techforever1970
@techforever1970 5 жыл бұрын
????
@rocketsmall4547
@rocketsmall4547 3 жыл бұрын
but if do that then it work?
@Made2hack
@Made2hack 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that you did not buy the electric turbine they also sell on ebay. It needs more TURBO!!!
@southjerseysound7340
@southjerseysound7340 5 жыл бұрын
Whats scary is Audi is using a electric turbo on one of the twin turbo TDI's now lol
@AnonyDave
@AnonyDave 5 жыл бұрын
@@southjerseysound7340 There's technically nothing wrong with an electric turbo, the ones on ebay are basically computer fans and their airflow is not even on the same planet
@M4RC90
@M4RC90 5 жыл бұрын
@@southjerseysound7340 There is a big difference between an actual genuine electric turbo and a glorified PC fan sold as electric turbo. While a PC fan just needs to move a lot of air around, a turbo needs to compress the air, which a PC fan by design just can't do.
@goamarty
@goamarty 5 жыл бұрын
@Spiritpoweredinternet then somebody sold you only a broken (half) unit. every child knows a real turbo needs TWO "propellers" :-)
@rogersmith9808
@rogersmith9808 5 жыл бұрын
@Spiritpoweredinternet They do as much helping with boost/airflow as "alot" is a word!! 😋
@RossCanpolat
@RossCanpolat 5 жыл бұрын
Half a million subscribers! Fair play Clive. I remember when this channel was much much smaller 👍👍👍
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 5 жыл бұрын
Oooh the sarcastic comments about that little chip knowing about every car! lol That was a belter!
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you told us where you got the photo of the PCB of an item which hadn't arrived yet, I was wondering after the previous video!
@alanhindmarch4483
@alanhindmarch4483 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still amazed how many millions of people fall for these things, even after all this time!
@jkobain
@jkobain 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, now I see you have tried to find any activity over OBD2 port. Thank you!
@andrewharpin6749
@andrewharpin6749 3 жыл бұрын
Modern cars have CAN at the OBD port (usually around 2005-2007 onwards, OEM and model specific), older stuff will have a CAN bus in the vehicle, but not exposed to the OBD port.
@4clive
@4clive 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the exact same one, and after 200km it remapped my engine to produce an extra 120BHP and reduce fuel consumption by 70%.
@NFMorley
@NFMorley 5 жыл бұрын
Also, if you have an accident with one of these left plugged in and have to get towed/mechanic, I'd suspect your insurer might take it as a reason to refuse/restrict cover (even though it's doing zilch). Most insurers treat remaps/ECUs as mods in the UK iirc, so will bump your premium up a good bit if ones installed (despite them actually being fairly innocuous, and even practical for some models). Not sure if they routinely check for it though on vehicles involved in accidents, but I'm pretty sure a chunk device plugged into the OBD II would be noticed given its ubiquitous use in garages.
@jencrowson
@jencrowson 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, an excuse to wriggle out. I've heard them refuse to pay out for fire claims because the car has waterless coolant in it.
@colintinker7778
@colintinker7778 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for enlightening us about this piece of junk! Great job as usual.
@robertgray6512
@robertgray6512 3 жыл бұрын
This is a way to spread Stuxnet to devices owned by handy people all over the world.
@irongastelum6202
@irongastelum6202 3 жыл бұрын
who els falls asleep to big clive taking things apart and reverse engineering random shit after a long day? guess you can say i find his voice frequency soothing lol (resonating @ HisVoiceDon'tHertz) lol your the man clive, cheers from Phoenix Arizona in the US!!!!
@Seegalgalguntijak
@Seegalgalguntijak 5 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about this being a light show is the fact that it's under the dashboard where nobody looks at it ;-)
@StopChangingUsernamesYouTube
@StopChangingUsernamesYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
This thing is literally a pacifier for a car owner. It keeps people from shoving their fingers or bugs into the port while it's there.
@grantrennie
@grantrennie 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos Clive 👍
@MrTarmonbarry
@MrTarmonbarry 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing i have found that works , and its on diesels only i think is a chip box you install under the bonnet , connects to the common fuel rail plug then back into the loom. I think it fools the ECU into thinking the air temp is colder or something, maybe a few other things as well . They cost anywhere from £80to £100 plus but do work . I had one fitted to an x-type jaguar and there was a very noticeable difference in throttle response and acceleration , it was a little bit of trial and error to choose the correct setting for it , anywhere between 1 and 9 . 5 was best for general everyday driving , going higher and giving it a lot of wellie for a while would bring up the engine management light but no damage caused
@matakaw4287
@matakaw4287 5 жыл бұрын
No continuity while probing the picture hmmm... That was funny. Another great video.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of reminds me of an LED-blinky equipped lighter I once dismantled many moons ago, press the button to light the flame and the LEDs went into flickery blinky mode, and after a short while, they switched off, the chip was a blob-on-board though so no idea what it was, but that could be where they're getting the functions from... :P
@darkdelta
@darkdelta 5 жыл бұрын
". . . Not that it deserves to be protected". @3:43. Now that's funny stuff! Good one.
@mrkattm
@mrkattm 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these and mine works like a charm, I am getting almost 5 more miles per gallon on my 2005 Tahoe, I did have to wrap in in aluminum foil first, I think it was picking up too much interference from my cell phone, but once I did that it started really working, I have one on all of my cars including my wife's jeep, too soon to say how well it is working on that.
@okcantbelieveit294
@okcantbelieveit294 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Katt . Do you have to treat your wife so shabbily allowing her to own and drive a Jeep? Mind you , you drive a Tahoe so I suppose you’re a masochist as well. 😂
@CanizaM
@CanizaM 5 жыл бұрын
Given how much data you can fit on a microSD card, I think it's theoretically possible to make a custom "universal" IC that does tune the ECU, but of course it would involve reverse-engineering the ECUs of thousands of models to figure out the undocumented commands or even exploits required to mod them... if only that theoretical world was reality ;-)
@schwartzenheimer1
@schwartzenheimer1 5 жыл бұрын
So, if you use all of those fuel-saving devices, do you have to stop every few miles to empty your tank?
@chipbennett2845
@chipbennett2845 5 жыл бұрын
"Going to probe the drawing", probably very high resistance. :-)
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 5 жыл бұрын
He actually did it in a previous video :-)
@danmackintosh6325
@danmackintosh6325 3 жыл бұрын
I love auto subtitles, "it goes straight from the shredded pollachi protection diode to a 7/8 ML V"
@kimvette1
@kimvette1 5 жыл бұрын
Clive, check the breakout box while you are holding reset; I wonder if it is just clearing the codes and taking the ECU out of "ready" state because doing so will cause some high compression and super/turbocharged cars to produce slightly more power that can be felt with your butt dyno for around 200km (but won't be anywhere near 35% more power/25% more torque), so if that is what it is doing the claim to making more power may be valid because the car has restarted its learning cycle, but can easily be achieved for free by disconnecting the battery for a few minutes to clear the ECU as well. Try pulling the turbo control valve if you've got a turbocharged car or if not try pullling a coil to one spark plug or disconnecting the o2 sensor or a vacuum line to trigger an error code, then try hitting reset on this thing and see if it clears the codes.
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 5 жыл бұрын
That's a cute little "blinkenlights" unit. If anyone watched SMA's video on the Dodge Caravan that reset the dashboard and set the wipers running whenever the power sliding doors operated... That's what happens when your CANBUS gets tampered with. For best performance from a vehicle (acceleration, braking, fuel economy) the best thing ANYONE can do is keep current on scheduled maintenance. Regular oil changes, tune ups, and good quality fuel (from a major supplier) in addition to driving mildly (gentle acceleration/braking patterns) and not carrying more cargo than is necessary will be far more effective than any silly OBD-II dongle quackery can ever be. One-size-fits-all devices cannot take into account all of the variables than an ECM handles - each specific engine has its own mapping for air/fuel ratios, injector pulse timing, etc etc etc. Even the same exact engine used across multiple vehicles will have completely different programming. Any effect these modules have on a car is a placebo at best.
@chrisg6597
@chrisg6597 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a spudger used to open a cardboard box before!
@Mrflash222006
@Mrflash222006 5 жыл бұрын
If you use them a lot the edge sharpens up, I have used mine to slice parcel tape and open cellophane before now
@voiceofthefathertv
@voiceofthefathertv 4 жыл бұрын
you had me convinced at "look at this small chip" thanks for being thorough lol
@BerndFelsche
@BerndFelsche 5 жыл бұрын
Loading components on both sides is obviously more expensive... You have to stop bits falling off the first side when reflowing the second. The 7805 regulator should have a small cap on the input for stability. The choice of regulator package may be due to power dissipation to get vehicle "12V" down to 5V. As much as 16V is often seen on vehicle power supply rails.... with automotive rated components rated to deal with 60V load dump transients. Such transients occur when e.g a "mechanic" disconnects the battery while the alternator is trying to charge it.
@paullewis9490
@paullewis9490 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty brutal, Clive! Thanks for the break down. Very entertaining and informative. Another Chinese placebo effect device. lol
@criminalbrewing5509
@criminalbrewing5509 3 жыл бұрын
My performance booster chip came from The Royal Palace of Nigeria... it has an official seal of authenticity and only cost $65 per month. Not sure how much horse power it added, but customer support said they can double my gain any time I choose, by sending another $100 per month. It’s a bit expensive, but I could sure use the extra power.
@Gargy1981
@Gargy1981 5 жыл бұрын
One possibility would be ATiny85. It has RESET on pin 1 and GND on PIN 4. Vcc is pin 8 BUT the LED is always ON - it could be a trace on the bottom side of the PCB - LED shows power is OK and goes to pin 8. All the other pins are I/O...
@Mister_Brown
@Mister_Brown 5 жыл бұрын
i found it it's an stc micro stc15, pins match perfectly datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/STC-Micro-STC15F104W-35I-SOP_C26928.pdf
@BlackWolf42-
@BlackWolf42- 5 жыл бұрын
They work! I got an extra 50HP at the rears with a new E85 sensor, bigger fuel pump, ID1050 injectors, and smaller blower pulley - oh, some stranger that knows how to use my HPTuners gizmo helped only a tiny amount.
@fourbypete
@fourbypete 3 жыл бұрын
We need to find these people and show them a better way to make a living that won't get them killed.
@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8
@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Bear..
@superdau
@superdau 5 жыл бұрын
You wanted to probe the printout for voltage? Well, at least it's not just me that gets fooled when I suddenly wonder how it is so easy for you to write onto a solder joint!
@mangamaster03
@mangamaster03 5 жыл бұрын
OBD connectors are usually on their own private network to the ECU. Any signals are probably copied over to that network, but if properly designed, damage to this network shouldn't take down any of the other networks.
@AgentLokVokun
@AgentLokVokun 3 жыл бұрын
"This reset button is really nice" You said it best! For an item that dosen't do anything they sure care about the user! Also if they wanted people to forget about it would making it black be better then yellow?
@Shabbymannen
@Shabbymannen 5 жыл бұрын
Hah, I just ordered that exact same spudger, along with a bunch of other appliance prying tools. Was nice to see it in action!
@raymondmucklow3793
@raymondmucklow3793 5 жыл бұрын
As a teenager i worked auto parts stores for total of 5 years. Its amazing the customers that would come in and complain about there car not starting or whatever and end up buying a qt of oil. Thats the universal fix all the cheapest qt of oil possible. On a side note tho whatever autoparts store your at if you look at the house brand and then look for the name brand whichever container the house brand resembles the most is usually bottled by that name brand. I worked at chief auto the house brand was bottled by valvoline. I did however have a regular customer he had a sandrail (i lived in the High Desert of California ) and this man used to stop in on the weekend on his way out from LA to take his camp rig and sand rail out to the desert and he bought slick 50 and he had put into his sand rail. Sunday night on the way home he stopped and had told us he was out thrashing around in that sand rail poked a hole in his oil pan and idled eight miles back to camp and shut it down the next weekend he was on his way back out after putting another oil pan on the sand rail and that Sunday on his way home he stopped in and told us everything was perfect he said that slick 50 had worked. We had always ben told was just high detergent oil. I did put it in regularly in my moms nissan sentra she had rhat car for 12 years never had problems with engine at all. But those engines last a lot of miles. Im still kind of on the fence about that slick50 additive but i always share that story its the only real world example i have. I worked with an retired shop teacher he always said regarding slick50 you cant put metal back on once it wears off.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
I used slick 50 in one of my vans. There was always that unknown aspect to whether it works or not.
@raymondmucklow3793
@raymondmucklow3793 5 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom yeah i dunno either i like to believe that customer years ago, matter of fact i guess i did because I used that product up until i bought my first full size diesel pickup truck, (i guess i figured 20 bucks for some super detergent oil that will clean the engine at least or 20 bucks for some extra protection) then that stuff is a no no. At 70,000 usd and a warranty its either oil or synthetic oil thats it. I dont think they make a diesel slick 50. Diesels tend to last longer anyway.
@rickpercy87
@rickpercy87 5 жыл бұрын
Love the large print out of the PCB!
@robertcalkjr.8325
@robertcalkjr.8325 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clive. There's a sucker born every minute! -P. T. Barnum
@BaumInventions
@BaumInventions 5 жыл бұрын
7:50 ... You say "It can" have a negative effect on your car... I say "it will definitly" stop your car from working if the 2 can bus lines are shorted together. It depends on your car... On VW (Skoda Seat Audi Porsche etc.) there is a gateway between the OBD port and the car that will save you... But on my Dacia / Renault etc. there is no protection. You short out the can bus and everything stops working. Cluster , engine ... even the radio will not work properly... If you ever have questions about car diagnostics and/or Testers... feel free to ask... since 2005 im specialised on repairing cars/ trucks/engines... Can bus (communication) problems are nearly 40% of all failures today.. Exept when your engine is actually blown ^^
@MichaOstrowski
@MichaOstrowski 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think someone could send this kind of device, but with malicious intent, as in, for example, at least unlock car doors when specific radio signal is received?
@BaumInventions
@BaumInventions 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichaOstrowski its even more simple... plug in a normal obd bluetooth dongel and let it plugged in all the time... now i can access the bluetooth from outside and send my own messages into the can bus over bluetooth... with the right messages you can wake a car and program it remotely... if you embed for example "abs delete" into a plug you can disable or destroy controllers... its super simple. when you have access to the can wires ... the car is yours. basically it works for all cars, just slightly different messages are needed to change / activate things. Its like a open front door to a unsecured jewelery.
@MichaOstrowski
@MichaOstrowski 5 жыл бұрын
@@BaumInventions oh hell... I understand. Bluetooth is not the most secure technology ever. I've been tempted to buy such a dongle, but in my car the socket is right underneath the fuse cover inside the passenger cabin on to the lower left of the steering column, so I could not close the cover if I had anything plugged in there...
@BaumInventions
@BaumInventions 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichaOstrowski just make pin16 of the obd (+12v supply) switched by ignition instead of a permanent supply... you could use a on-on switch to choose ignition or permanent supply. a permanent supply is needed for diagnostics(you have to turn the ignition on and off during diagnostics)
@MichaOstrowski
@MichaOstrowski 5 жыл бұрын
@@BaumInventions thank you for your knowledge, this sounds very reasonable
@Penguins247
@Penguins247 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid, as usual. One question: Why are you providing advice to the scammers as to how to optimise their designs?!
@Pointlesschan
@Pointlesschan 3 жыл бұрын
He knows they don’t watch his channel...
@JohnJones1987
@JohnJones1987 5 жыл бұрын
The Russian version swaps LEDs for buzzers. The resulting EDM has cut my commute by 5 minutes. *_Déjà vu--_*
@leighblyth1097
@leighblyth1097 5 жыл бұрын
The MCU could never send data across Canbus with those 10k resistors in series, Canbus network devices are terminated with 120 ohm resistors so there is no way any mcu could pull the lines high or low through 10k resistors 😉
@stevedeleon8775
@stevedeleon8775 2 жыл бұрын
Great!!. another Gadget with a different color case & a convenient Push RESET button instead of a PIN hole button..
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about the accessibility of the reset button too much. It's just part of the theatre. These units are fake and just put on a lightshow.
@audi4444player
@audi4444player 5 жыл бұрын
haha that neosocket thing was the best part, like handing someone a usb drive and saying it'll save on their water bill lol, at least these little boxes are somewhat plausible
@TrinomCZ
@TrinomCZ 5 жыл бұрын
Most modern cars have diagnostic CAN behind a gateway, so if your diagnostic tool (or any other crap plugged into an OBD socket) crashes, nothing happens.
@kitecattestecke2303
@kitecattestecke2303 5 жыл бұрын
Or the odb port cant Diagnose Abs Airbag or any safety related item because there is another diagnosis port in the engine bay. Still statisfies the odb2 norm to the fullest for road worthy tests
@ChlorideCull
@ChlorideCull 5 жыл бұрын
@@kitecattestecke2303 Haven't seen a port in the engine bay in ages, there's a few manufacturer-specified pins on the ODB2 port, so the main bus is usually accessed over that after doing a quick handshake.
@TekkGnostic
@TekkGnostic 5 жыл бұрын
It is technically possibly of creating an OBD gizmo that could actually interact with the operation of a vehicle. The problem is the CANBUS is onl'y a rough guideline and each car-maker has their own proprietary implementation of the messaging through different channels, which itself can vary year for year and sometimes even by model... So it'd be very difficult or impossible to make one of the devices universally compatible with all vehicles. They would have to create a device for a specific set of vehicles per manufacturer and by CANBUS protocol/implementation standard to just not be reading-in/sending-out glitched-out gibberish. ed: Not to mention getting access to the companies specific implementation of CANBUS being a trade secret is not a viable method.. such that everything would have to be reversed engineered per vehicle.
@mateuszzimon8216
@mateuszzimon8216 5 жыл бұрын
Standard GIZMO for OBD exist like Autel where u have real communication on OBD2
@stheil
@stheil 5 жыл бұрын
It may be negligible to a car battery but 9mA quiescent current? That's pretty awful considering most somewhat current micros have idle currents around the micro- to nanoamps. Even blinking the LED it should be way less than 9mA. I expect the micro just always runs full speed.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
It does sound like it's running full tilt.
@stheil
@stheil 5 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom considering they weren't even smart enough to make it a one-sided board I'm not too surprised they didn't bother to make the micro sleep. And it's not like the quiescent current is the biggest fault with that piece of junk
@oscar_charlie
@oscar_charlie 5 жыл бұрын
Most of it will probably be the quiescent current of the voltage regulator. The older LM7805s were in the miliamps, unlike the modern 78L05 low dropout models.
@denismilic1878
@denismilic1878 3 жыл бұрын
Generally, most cars have multiple CANBUS routes, CANBUS on the OBDII connector is connected only to car ECU via separate wires. In most cases, you can't interfere with communication between ECU and other systems (ABS, AIRBAG....). Another snake oil device.
@Herr_Bone
@Herr_Bone 5 жыл бұрын
Could it be that we just don’t understand the way this Chinese technology works? We should judge this component not only according to its technical but also its psychological effect. The motorists who use such a device in their car may feel happier and therefore get more relaxed at work. They may think their car drives faster, consumes less fuel and needs less maintenance. That's a great achievement that can be caused by such a device!
@shenriksson
@shenriksson 5 жыл бұрын
I trust that gadget, I have a Citroen, today I press open trunk door, fuel cap opens. I will get one. Chinese + France, what can go wrong or get worse?
@okcantbelieveit294
@okcantbelieveit294 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Henriksson you won’t be able to open the filler cap then. Mind you not being able to refuel probably won’t make a difference in performance. 😂
@Herr_Bone
@Herr_Bone 5 жыл бұрын
Steve, there is a difference between Chinese fake and French „laisser faire“. While the Chinese try to make you believe that something is right, the French declare their fail as an expression of „savoir vivre“, and I think this is much more clever.
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, there's chinese made citroen, named Citroen fukang
@oscarbear1043
@oscarbear1043 4 жыл бұрын
You have a Citroen there’s no accounting for taste.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 5 жыл бұрын
"I was going to probe the drawing again" Made me laugh
@danthemancasey
@danthemancasey 5 жыл бұрын
No expense spared on that voltage regulator though!
@ollieb9875
@ollieb9875 5 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the 78M05 is the SMD version of the older, through hole L7805, they seem quite good at what they do yah.. I have lots.. No idea what for, but I appear to be collecting parts for a reason yet to become clear. I did fix a blown crapacitor in my brother's solar charge controller though.
@cebruthius
@cebruthius 5 жыл бұрын
@@ollieb9875 crapacitor xD
@ethanpoole3443
@ethanpoole3443 5 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised they used anything larger than a 78L05 as well, I guess they must have gotten a very good deal on the higher power regulator! Though with a continuous draw of about 9mA, they could likely have saved further money just using a 5.1V Zener and resistor as a shunt regulator. The efficiency would be about the same and ~70mW is well within the dissipation envelope of most Zener packages.
@kitecattestecke2303
@kitecattestecke2303 5 жыл бұрын
@@ethanpoole3443 car power is very dirty so a 7805 is not a Bad idear atleast the Placebo shouldn't go bang first crank
@discoequipmenthire
@discoequipmenthire 5 жыл бұрын
At least it has a feature not found on the ELM style bluetooth OBD connectors - it shuts down to standby when not in use. I have to remember to unplug mine if the car isn't used for more than a week!.
@Z-Ack
@Z-Ack 3 жыл бұрын
Told my nephew a while ago that if you hook a capacitors across the spark plug wires itd boost his horsepower.. he asked how much horsepower and i told him it depends on the size of the capacitors, the bigger the better.. so about a week later he showed me that he found some big capacitors (2000 μf 15vdc electrolytics). But they were a good size, about 2 inches tall and half round.. so i told him you got to put the pin with the black line to the plug wire and the other to ground.. took him an hour to put all 6 of em in and he started up the car and it blew every one of those things, killed the motor too.. fouled every plug to the point of damn near melting the tips.. dunno how but it did.. laughed my ass off.. bought him new plugs and wires and put a turbo with a tune on it for his birthday that year.. his mom about killed me for it but he deserved it.. not all 400 horses but most of em..
@dogmeat7486
@dogmeat7486 5 жыл бұрын
Oh Clive, Clivey clivey clive. Clivington, Clive-aroony. Cliverydoo. I enjoy your videos mate, keep it up! If you are struggling for content ( not that i think that you are but just in-case ) maybe you can show us how to build something?
@ZachFromIT
@ZachFromIT 5 жыл бұрын
Pin stripes & flame decals still have a much better gain-to-cost ratio.
@RFC3514
@RFC3514 5 жыл бұрын
That is actually a 100% real homeopathic ECU enhancer. It doesn't need any built-in logic because the electrons coming in are imprinted with a memory of your driving patterns.
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