Simplify Massive Ship Design with Modules | 08 | COSMOTEER 🚀| Lets Try

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[@AlexK-jp9nc]

It was only a matter of time before he reinvented city blocks

[@erickelley1236]

I have it set up with 3 roles: operator, mule and default. You don't have to assign stationary operators because they will find their way there. It keeps the lines much cleaner to only assign the mules. Edit: the reason your forward thrusters are firing is because your backward thrusters dont have enough people delivering batteries to the eng rooms. When the backward thrusters shut off, the forward thrusters on the opposite side fire to keep the ship straight. To stop the forward thrusters from firing, use more people to deliver batteries

[@CFHoneyBadger]

When he did the shout-out to Aavak, it made my day. It would be the greatest thing in the whole world to see a collab between the two. Not necessarily on this game, but their game choices do run similar.

[@Redicule_research._ridiculous]

Oh, yes. Yes indeed

[@coyjin]

PDFs firing concentrated Bureaucracy because nothing is harder to get through than red tape.

[@tonton_1964]

Awesome! It is your trademark, modules, city blocks, now translated to dedicated modules in this game. You are adapting the "lean" concept to all your games. I love it

[@AlexAegisOfficial]

you can put opposite facing thrusters as close to as the yellow area lets you, they can FULLY overlap, even the thruster itself can be inside the yellow area (thats just decoration outside the ship), its a valid build as long as there are no room tiles inside the yellow area

[@alexandrubejan1872]

Also, using the bigger thrusters also allows the thruster clusters to be closer together, and you have more turning and back thrust for the rail manoover of getting out of enemy fire range, also each big shield should be backed up by 2 small shields in armoor.

[@nikelsad]

Yes, the engine nozzle can be inside the yellow-striped area. But the nozzle isn't just decoration, projectiles actually do hit it.

[@Azzinoth224]

About the sideways thrusters not being used for steering: That is because the larger the thrusters are the longer the rampup time is. Since you are using huge thrusters sideways, it is easier for the game to steer by turning some forwards thruster on one side off (turning off is instant) then wait until the ship turned and then turm them on again. To prevent that I recommend to use some small thrusters which have no rampup time for sideways steering. Keep in mind that the torque is bigger the larger the orthogonal distance to the center of mass is. So I recommend placing these sideways thrusters at the top and bottom of your ship. Of course you can also use huge sideways thrusters in addition for when you need to make large turns or strafe sideways, but just having a handful small ones at the right places is a huge help for controlling the ship.

[@geterdone4936]

Ah the ol Aavak thruster cluster

[@AlexAegisOfficial]

Another tip is, I had issues with the ship constantly turning on and off, turns out I had my supplier priority on the same level or lower than the use priority. Just like the default settings do it, always set supplying higher than using something

[@drsupergood8978]

I think the forward boosters were firing while flying straight because not all your backward firing thrusters were powered all the time. They had to fire otherwise the uneven backwards thrust would cause your ship to turn slightly. Likewise, they will fire when your ship is turning to produce additional torque.

[@tobiaschemnitz5649]

Get a fat lineup of large cannons on each side. Not because it's effective, but it's cool "giving them a broardside"!

[@omgwtfdoineedtodo]

That weird mission you picked up was a faction conflict mission that would move you towards war with the Monolith Cooperative on behalf of the Centauri Imperium (which was the opposite of what you said you wanted to do right after that) hopefully you notice before you go blow up the base :D

[@fctoashton]

A fun interaction is that your ships armor blocks your enemies large shield field, so you can use structure blocks to let your shields overlap, then make a death tunnel after your shield wall that pierces the enemies shield wall, causing everything you throw into your tunnel hit straight enemy armor and their soft stuff… who needs disrupters when you have basically a mosquito nose to get to their flesh.

[@mortenpetersen8888]

Thanks for sharing, I’m in the same learning curve and are currently using Rails and Ion beams with diamonds. One thing I/you could test. Is making the ship able to do decent mining, we could utilize the way that the ship scoops things and maybe make the back end of the ship able to scope up astroids. So you reverse flight direction when you are mining, scoop up a bunch of astroids and then mine them. Thanks for all you videos 👍

[@TeracomConsulting]

If a Crewmember is assigned to anything, it will NOT use fire extinguishers, unless they are ALSO assigned to the fire extinguisher. Be sure to assign your Fire extinguishers. Cheers

[@BartJBols]

I use three roles, redshirts (who do everything, but have their priority on manning and bringing energy reduced) engineers (who dont do 'out of the ship' jobs and prioritise bringing energy around, the rest is unchanged) and pilots (who have all their jobs priority reduced except for manning modules, which is increased) I have them in a rough 3/2/1 amount in most ships.

[@bhalucard85]

I believe that you should install radar stations. they extend your viewing circle allowing you to use the full range of your railguns.

[@Nilaus]

already have

[@AlexAegisOfficial]

Oh and if you want to spice up the content try out ion emitters, you can do really interesting and powerful (and safe!) builds them

[@tjep2670]

I would like to point out that a big issue with having such a limited and non redundant crew is that as soon as you lose people thing will start to break. It's fine as long as you're never getting hit, but as soon as you go against someone as strong or stronger, you'll be SOL.

[@Pystro]

But with modules you'll almost always loose both the crew and the tings the crew is operating at the same time. The only 2 exceptions would be: When a module is only partially destroyed. When you leave behind people on EVA.

[@TrollStomper19]

The whole build relies on the alpha strike from the longest ranged weapon system available. Your analysis isn't wrong, it's basically the plan.

[@O11O1channel]

With the railgun teams locked into the ship, i'm confused why you don't simply keep an airlock hatch in their sections so that they can get in and out, even if they have to travel a bunch of doors. Also, for the open space between your railguns, can you use that as storage for any materials you will only ever sell and not use yourself? then it can have one airlock in the middle and a bunch of storages to any material that doesn't go into the main modules.

[@nikelsad]

"then it can have one airlock in the middle" Given it'd be set to a "materials he will only ever sell", does it actually need an airlock at all?

[@joel14roy]

I am not even surprised to see that you like cosmoteer alot. I see a good similitude with factorio for the ship building, which is really focused on the optimization part of building. Also, managing crew is a great way to optimize your ship!

[@fctoashton]

@nilaus dont worry about the cockpit power, it goes thru 1 energy unit per minute

[@predur4136]

I'm glad to se the ship become more and more... Cubic...

[@Rezuvious]

I like saving stations just for the fact you can get a lot of loot. If your lucky the area holding the expensive stuff is what gets broken.

[@kaurpold9706]

Probs useless tool for you, but I have 4 ships as fleet. Scout ship that uses 2 crew and for discovering the new section fast. Very useful if you are lower lvl than section. Can also collect the rewards and crew from stations. Cargo ship that carries all the resources and factories. Can function on minimum if 40 crew. The alpha ship that gets shit done. And flanker that usually saves the day if you are alot lower lvl than section.

[@AlexAegisOfficial]

Your side thrusters dont help with steering because they are too close to the middle, they'd be only used to strafe. Put them to the back of the ship, and prefferably inside. if you want strafing too put one set to the front too.

[@mattkey6023]

I think it uses the booster thrusters because they have a lower charge uptime then the big thrusters on the side.

[@erikbergqvist83]

Overlapping large shields, with inteenal shields right behind them as holdouts, are crew intensive but adds a good bit survivability. On side towards enemy against fast swarm ships.

[@shadowjezzter]

I would suggest having some thrusters facing towards the ship, basically opposite to the ones facing away at the sides, should help with turning speed and rotation instead of thrusting backwards to rotate.

[@Lung-Bean]

I'd personally be interested to see what you'd do with the ion beam as it's another modular weapon similar to the railgun

[@TrollStomper19]

The module concept is appreciated. Have you considered putting a module pack up on the steam workshop?

[@Hust91]

The operators don't necessarily need to be assigned to only 1 item per bedroom, so long as you have a good number of crew per item needing operating. So instead of having 3x2 bedrooms with one assignment each, you could put a 1x6 bedroom of operators and just assign them to up to 6 operators worth of rooms and just use the 2-operator rooms to make up the difference when the needed number of operators isn't a multiple of 6.

[@martylawson1638]

Fyi, you can self-destruct any component in the creative mode. It's great for testing battle damage to components that explode.

[@genuinedickies99]

thruster cluster is now a thing

[@keithclark9719]

might need to add in more armor and shields in the front. you will start seeing very powerful lazers that can pernitrate multiple shields.

[@debaser71]

I wonder if with a module design; will your crew try and put out fires in other parts of the ship during combat? I dont want them exiting the ship mid combat.

[@The_Starfleet_Ensign]

maybe since you want a massive capital ship to fight..why not get some supply ships?

[@TheseAreWeirdTimes]

I really think you should make use of the large reactors.

[@jeroen999999999]

You don't have to separate the modules for it to work like you intend right? Like if you assign crew like you do, you could also have an internal connection between different modules, then crew won't have to get out and they also won't be floating.

[@salemprompthous3820]

13:38 anyone else seeing R2-D2? Or is that just me? 🤣

[@jpbroadwater]

Would you please consider adding the latest Heart of the Tempest build to the Steam Workshop?

[@Valarion17]

Modular ship huh? Might be interesting to try one out myself....

[@lucustwyatt1960]

Do some faction conflicts! we need to see this ship tested and blown up!

[@zegalles5721]

sensor array, and larger bridge

[@sindahir3]

do you plan to get your shipbuild in the workshop?

[@williamhess180]

any chance your ship design is on the workshop?

[@ethanwilson1001]

How does your crew get into the rail recharging areas between the rails? I see no airlocks connecting the areas, nor is it connected to any other place in the ship? Are you somehow beaming them in there?

[@DavidGuild]

They're locked in. He adds temporary airlocks to get them in (when he remembers, usually he gets confused for a while first).

[@ethanwilson1001]

@@DavidGuild I have a similar railgun design that uses airlocks as well, but once they're in I turn off the airlock control so they can't use them to sneak out so I don't have to remove them from my blueprint.

[@ethanwilson1001]

@@DavidGuild That's a lot of trouble. I just add the airlock to the little compartment and leave it there. After getting the crew in (usually 2-4 people), I simply disable the airlock (using the group function, I can select all the airlocks to the spinal cavity area). That takes care of the problem for me.

[@ethanwilson1001]

@@DavidGuild Ok. I usually just make a regular airlock, let the crew in, then disable the airlock after. I know it takes up some real-estate in those tight between-the-rail spaces, but then again you can always adjust airlock access at-will later.

[@tdunbar6148]

hi. i just started this game. how many hours in career mode should i expect to play to find myself considering a ship like the one you start the video with, please?

[@Redicule_research._ridiculous]

I played as a passivist, mining the astroids (maximum inefficiency) and it was like 6 hours? If you use a mining Lazer among precision weapons(Lazer, ion) you get pretty insane loot(chips, enriched uranium) which will make it fair quick. Like, 1.5 hours game time perhaps, you can utilize page up to speed up time. For real though, it takes about 3 minutes. Start cosmoteer, enable mods, enable money bounty hunter mod, restart, and you're done.

[@O11O1channel]

Personally I don't enjoy using mods to cheat in extra money like that, least not before I've done it the long way at least once.

[@Redicule_research._ridiculous]

@@O11O1channel I agree entirely

[@Apoz]

2 tile bedrooms house 2 crew, 4tile bedrooms house 6?

[@atroxie]

i think the 14/16 area would have been easy for ur current ship

[@paulcosteines5556]

anyone make a ship with 4-30 accelerator raill guns? Im having challenges with resupply of batteries. I think the fix is to locate crew quarters in alley ways along side each rail gun. thoughts?

[@Nilaus]

Mine are 28 now and will be max length in next episode, so I guess you have to stay tuned for the next episode ;)

[@paulcosteines5556]

@@Nilaus of course nilaus. Also love factorio designs. Inspirational for sure. Worked on a new method tonight! Will show if usefull. Please do also! Love design!!

[@paulcosteines5556]

@@Nilaus Quick folllow up. Is there a particular episode where you build the 28 rail cannon?

[@marshal1x]

I have to agree floating crew base sucks. they never do what they should be doing. even with prioritys set for crew they sit and dont do anything for a long time. so much runs without power when all that can operate and power is needed.. they take forever to respond. i wish when ship design is saved. the crew assignments all saved. would help the learning in how to do it properly if the gave devs that made those ship show it. and we could see it

[@DavidGuild]

8:15 Your allergy to full bunks is so confusing.

[@sebastianriesending8940]

I spent hours building a ship with clusters, now I'm losing personnel while flying. they throw themselves out of the airlock. it seems this method is too anti-social and leads to mass suicide.

[@asureaskie8955]

Careful crew assignments, like shown at the beginning of the video, will prevent that.

[@MirageGSM]

If you're doing modules anyway, it would be a shame if the modules were not interchangeable: Up against a shielded ship? Replace the front module with a massive disruptor bank. Don't care about salvaging remains? Nukes it is. Want to be surgical? Giant red beams. Now can you save parts of ship designs separately...?

[@Darion350]

You can design them separately and then load them together using the "load into existing ship" option.

[@NickAndriadze]

Unfortunately, even if modular design is simpler, it costs way more than if the ship was a singular interconnected part run by one or two giant reactors, as each module realistically can't be using its own assigned reactor at its fullest. Also, cutting your ship in modules makes it need more armor, making it larger, bulkier and generally gives the ship a bigger profile, making it easier to hit.

[@martylawson1638]

Modular design also makes a ship more damage tolerant. So it's often well worth the extra cost.

[@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen]

Larger AND smaller? Ò_ō

[@NickAndriadze]

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen OH whoops. A typo. Thanks for noticing. (Edit) Fixed it.

[@asureaskie8955]

Every time I've run up against an energy bottleneck, it was never a problem with how fast the reactor generates power. It was always crew carrying throughput, which is controlled by two variables: number of trips required and distance per trip. Reactor size only has a limited effect on number of crew trips for most modules. For example, the highest tier bridge's power consumption is (IIRC) 4 per minute, and no, the "minute" isn't a typo. Even so, when the bridge is 1 power below max, crew will still bring it a battery, even if it's a 3-charge battery. Therefore, number of trips is controlled by, depending on the device in question, either the time to use one charge or the size of the charge being brought. As a result, reactor size only matters for the most energy-hungry devices, like ions. Meanwhile, using more reactors makes for less travel distance.

[@TomTom11112]

Get some harder enemies already

[@farberka]

Its ugly but effective

[@Nilaus]

like its creator...

[@rphilipsgeekery4589]

I love this game but it needs more content to be epic, it gets a bit repetitive