Simply so Weird.. Ft. Courtney Miller || Reddit Stories || Two Hot Takes Podcast

[@heatherchesshire]

The 200k a year and $40 engagement ring is kind of an insult though, and his reaction is a major red flag. He knew it wouldn’t go over well if he told her, so he hid it.

[@faeb.9618]

honestly i personally wouldn't even care about my ring being 40 dollars if i like it, what i do care about is the fact that he bought it on fucking temu instead of going to someone reputable or at the very least safe. my own ring was about 400 dollars just because neither my fiance nor me wanted a traditional gold band with rocks (gold jewelry makes my skin crawl for some reason and i am so deeply uncomfortable with it touching my skin, i just don't know why) so we went with someone that makes steel rings with sections in the middle of fossils and precious stone dust that almost looks like a galaxy, i care so much more about the ring being as pretty as it is than about the price and i actually insisted on going even cheaper if possible, i would've even been cool without a ring but my fiance just insisted on wanting to get us these rings for how beautiful they are

[@heatherchesshire]

@@faeb.9618 my husband got me a white gold (looks silver but doesn’t tarnish) and light blue sapphire and it was very simple in design. I have small hands so a smaller, low profile design just works best. I love it. The corners on the sides of the stone are pretty sharp and catch on things and people so it’s not something I wear every day but it’s still my favorite piece and I bring it out on special occasions. My wedding band, however, I bought at JCPenny on sale for $125 and when it was too bent/ damaged to repair, they bought it back from me and I bought a new one with it. It’s the one place I bother to get a protection plan 😂

[@goose237goose]

I love affordability and prefer a cheaper ring but it does feel like an insult to buy a $40 engagement ring. The metal will tarnish. Even for a male wedding ring or engagement ring (which typically cost less) should still be more than that.

[@nikdo0816]

The main for me would not be the price, by all means go for affordability over status symbol, but it is a red flag to me that he bought it from such a questionable site. I have doubts about the quality and safety of materials used to make it, let alone whether the site tells the truth about that. An engagement ring is worn basically daily, so it a constant exposure to who knows what. If he did not know the reputation of the side, then they should discuss it, but he is shutting down any discussion, so I guess he knew...

[@LeilaniTauheed]

​@@faeb.9618It's not really about the price it's about the quality. (I haven't heard the story yet lmao)

[@iohss]

Story 2: OP’s boyfriend needs to start his next onlyfans post with “this one’s for Jan!”

[@freedomcat]

OP needed to have a lawyer with her HR is only to protect the company, not the workers.

[@juliettealexander8537]

​@freedomcat this is a private school. Their contracts are written for their benefit and a lawyer can't and won't be of much help. They can and will fire a teacher for just about anything (like reporting a child cheated on test and not taking it back when told how much money mommy and daddy put in the school. Fire the teacher, report gone).

[@freedomcat]

@@juliettealexander8537 a lawyer would help overlook the contract and overlooked the school's policies and point out where the school went wrong in benefit of the teacher

[@AletseTuil]

Even if Jan wasn’t in the right. It’s a private religious school. Show some respect and don’t bring your sex worker boyfriend to one. Better yet, don’t work at a religious school if you don’t believe in their values and then be upset when they ask you not to bring them on school grounds.

[@Bea-ni6vk]

@@AletseTuilbe quiet dork

[@RooHue]

Story 1: He definitely knows what Temu is. She kept asking where it was from and he wouldn't say until she caught him looking at the app. Also Temu is one of those sites that steals images to sell their crappy version of whatever they're posing it as.

[@Ciela531]

100% Plus he immediately left the room/ refused to talk about it when he realized she knew it was from Temu If he didn’t know what Temu was, then I feel like he would’ve expressed confusion over her concern about him getting the ring from Temu

[@nugget3687]

If he doesn't want to answer it means he'd know she'd be upset about it, I think that's all the info you really need lol. It's pretty cut and dry

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

@@nugget3687 This. It's not about the ring, it's about the sneaking and lack of consideration. Propose with a ring pop for all I care, just get a rough baseline of what your partner wants (and doesn't want).. Such odd behaviour on his part

[@maggiedk]

I left this in another comment, but their products have also been found to contain dangerous amounts of lead, they use slave labor, and the company is detrimental to the environment. It's one thing to buy an inexpensive engagement ring, it's another (much worse) thing to buy one from Temu.

[@sumananand4233]

​@@maggiedktemu is a just a marketplace. They don't produce anything. Anybody can sell on it which means you'll find both good and bad products and you have to do the due diligence. Don't spread misinformation

[@envymordecai4429]

I was *waiting* for Courtney to bring up “Yeah my husband literally died when he was a toddler.” Only because it’s one of Shayne’s biggest bits on Smosh. Anytime he’s around water he’ll say “Wanna see an impression of me as a baby?” and just lie down face first in the water 💀💀💀💀 I cannot imagine the emotional whiplash his mother experiences every time she sees it.

[@RegicidalQueens]

My partner died when they were a toddler but they're remarkably well preserved for an open burial.

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

To be fair, his dad called him "Shayne Bobber" when he grew up so I have a feeling the family deals with stuff through comedy in general

[@envymordecai4429]

@@hernameispekka_Rebecca How is this the first time im hearing about this 💀💀

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

@@envymordecai4429 Probably a story from an old Show with no name episode. Most of the lore dumps seem to come from those

[@jennifermartin6802]

Hey! I’m a jeweler. The ring on temu is probably something called flash plated which means the gold is very thin and will rub off quickly. As for the moisanites, you can buy them for about $15-$300 for a half carat size-5 carat size. Moisanites are beautiful but they’re very inexpensive, and tend to be sold with a high profit margin. For your ring the bulk of the cost was probably the setting and labor as a good quality gold engagement ring without a stone costs around 1.5K-2K

[@snibbubzik3566]

Thanks for the info!

[@megandenney09]

Thank you! I was saying that whole story that that ring is probably made of tin or brass w the thinnest layer of gold plated over it. It’s gonna last two seconds. There’s no shame in getting a moisanite, but my gosh get real solid gold/silver so it’ll last longer than a gumball ring.

[@Taewills]

OP doesn’t sound unreasonable. If her fiancée would simply communicate that he’s adverse to investing in costly jewelry, even for an engagement ring, then I’m sure they could’ve come up with a satisfactory compromise. But being shifty and deflecting is unearthing a major issue. They def need premarital counseling. They need to discuss finances, children, discipline if they want them, assets/prenup, romance & communication style in excruciating detail bc his behavior isn’t conducive to a healthy relationship.

[@Animezingly]

Can they also just be lying? Temu isn’t exactly the height of ethics 😂

[@5210smile]

Costs vs. Is Worth

[@devfrancis7666]

Please please please on the fake intervention one if you find an update ever, the minute you do, PLEASE put it in whatever episode comes soonest after you find it. I dont think ive ever in my life needed an update more, this story makes me feel so frustrated but also scared for her. Her family make me incredibly angry, and all i can think is this psycho man litterally got his psych degree just to be able to manipulate people better and its working.

[@fk7771]

It scares me that he is preparing to overdose her and he wouldn’t get the blame

[@RIVxo]

I feel you, I’m so worried and I don’t know where she lives but can’t she sue him for defamation? Especially since he got her work involved and she might lose her job, and what makes me more worried is that she has no one to go to. I hope she’s okay

[@laughingcorrpseholly4136]

Right?! This guy is a psychopath she needs to get away from him ASAP he did this to isolate and control her and he had been moving in the shadows for months behind her back it’s so icky and creepy and makes me fear for her life 😢 she should take a drug test right in front of her family and if they still won’t listen to her then f*ck them too because it’s messed up not ONE of them would hear her out or even think for a moment this guy was playing them 😡 I just hope and pray she is okay and gets away from him with or without her family/friends help 😢

[@BarbaraRivera-kp6es]

@@laughingcorrpseholly4136yes I was just about to say this. He’s isolating her for sure !! What’s even worse is that he’s a psychologist…he’d probably even try to play mind games with HER & convince her that she has had issues & just doesn’t remember. He needs to be looked into & his psychology degree needs to be revoked.

[@abbydelone]

@@BarbaraRivera-kp6esoh yea he has all the makings of a serial killer

[@jaynakendell]

Okay now we need Morgan, Justin, Shayne, and Courtney all together

[@benpinkerton6580]

Hard agree great opinion

[@spagetd1526]

YES the ultimate duo

[@summerskull9379]

Like a double date 🥰

[@daniellelbdv]

I never knew how much I needed this until just now omg PLEASE

[@torit4534]

Omg ❤️❤️

[@daniiiiiiiii9]

Story 3: IM SORRY WHAT. If someone touched me after I clearly said no, and then tried picking up my child, I will be putting my hands on that person. “She overreacted” SHE WAS TOUCHED WITHOUT CONSENT AND GRABBED YOUR CHILD, SIR YOU ARE NOT REACTING AT ALL. That lady could’ve booked it out of that restaurant with the child. Also pointing out creepy people is really just called BEING AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS!!

[@ProsewithRose]

Men are so clueless to the way women are thinking about personal safety at all times. At. All. Times.

[@mariana2916]

Yeah that story was insane, that lady learned that if u F around, u find out

[@tyffannief8822]

Girly with the ring needs to use a man's ego against him. Show EVERYONE your BEAUTIFUL ring. Flash it and as excited as possible tell the beautiful story of the engagement and how he **!!got it from temu! Isn't it so cute!!** His ego will f him up with that one.

[@victorywalkingtours8843]

That's hilarious, but she def needs to run

[@Pattycakes538]

If possible she should pretend she doesn't know anything about Temu if people question her about it. Say stuff about how her fiance assured her Temu has great quality and that he spent as much as he loves her on the ring. Just stuff that makes him look like 💩.

[@unstoppabledoris]

That's hilarious but at this point just break up and avoid a larger argument where you are the asshole

[@amandag4618]

@@unstoppabledorissome people need to be humbled even if that means you have to exert a little extra effort. In the grand scheme of things the universe will thank you

[@Pattycakes538]

@@unstoppabledoris TBH, I agree with you, mostly because his tantrums and refusal to communicate make him come off as the kind of guy that loses his shit if he lost public face.

[@kennedy.5152]

i was in HS when gay marriage was legalized in the US, and the one of the local religious schools fired a male teacher for getting married to his husband. he came to my school (public school) and was my drama director. he was the best director I had after doing theatre for my entire life and later went viral on tik tok for his cute family with his husband! almost a decade since all that went down, and I wish him and his family the best

[@jadebiteyou]

Story 3 the thing that pisses me off most was when OP said something along the lines of his wife not needing to be in public while pregnant… wtf kind of crazy man crap is this? “Oh no! Crazy, shameful, pregnant woman needs to be hidden away until she’s no longer in an inappropriate state!”🙄🙄🙄 Weird.

[@SoobySays]

Right? I HATE the vibes on this.

[@Caelinus]

It always amazes me how often people self-report in these stories. Even if everything else in the story had been successfully framed in a way that makes the OP look good, that one line would have immediately told me everything I know. The idea that a pregnant woman should not be allowed out is absurd. To give him the absolutely benefit of the doubt, for the sake of argument only, he might have been concerned based on the pandemic and did not want to expose her. That is the only reason I could think of that would not be awful, but even then, that would also mean that *he* should not be going out. It would be a "I was not sure if it was safe for us to be out" vs a "I was not sure about her being out while pregnant" thing. So yeah, this guy is gross.

[@SmthAbout.Money.SmellsLikeLove]

O no! People will think we have sex!

[@aliyahmoosberg1262]

I get this 100% but let’s consider also it was during the pandemic sooooooo that could be why

[@freedomcat]

@@Caelinus he is a Soy boy for not defending his wife and child.

[@justpeachy4050]

1:03:59 Omg, this guy needs his license revoked. Code of ethics is out the window here. If he’s capable of doing this to his partner, I don’t want to think what he’s willing to do to see “improvement” in clients.

[@992dancer]

Exactly!!! Such a terrifying thought having a man like that in such a position of power over other people’s lives! 🥺

[@yurilover13]

MY FAVORITE GIRLBOSSES TOGETHER 😭😭 i don’t want to ask for too much but an episode with yall and justin and shayne would literally heal me

[@Steveve4123]

Yesssss I feel like Justin needs to be there

[@meganmcgary7543]

YES OMG like all four of them

[@amandariley_]

i think that would heal a lot of us tbh

[@xxcatsagexx]

I KNOW RIGHT!! I am fan girling so hard rn 😍

[@ashleyadkins5190]

I was just thinking the same thing! They are both relationships goals 🥺❤️

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

Story 4: Immediate drug test, and post the results online with the caption "damn, guess I'm not a very good drug addict 😢", and tag the (now ex) boyfriend along with anyone else still refusing to believe you, do it again the next week. And also reach out to a lawyer since not only has he created provable damages with family relations, but he also got a coworker involved which could easily lead to problems at work. And if the boyfriend has an employer, pass on all the evidence (since he works in psychology).

[@lydiacongdon8135]

Right, she needs to sue for defamation of character

[@soleilrigney3026]

What if he had been putting drugs on hey food or drinks? He had access to medicine in his line of work and access to her food.....

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

@@soleilrigney3026 then don't post the results and probably speak to a lawyer about getting the police involved since he's drugging her.

[@sonadowfangirl30869]

OP mentions in a comment that Morgan mentions that she wanted to do a drug test on the spot, but was denied by her family and friends because those "can be faked."

[@spacytracy103]

​@@soleilrigney3026This was my first thought 😮

[@ghosty8193]

Story 4: My dad did a similar thing to my mum. He lied to the courts and said she was a drug user in order to get custody of me and my siblings. HE WAS LAUGHED OUT OF COURT. My mum got every test imaginable and they all came back clean (because, yes?? duh?? my mum wasn't doing drugs). I would take him (and honestly, OP's mother) to court to prove she's clean. You can't force someone clean to go to rehab-- they literally will not accept clean people.

[@Mamabear8654]

Right! That's a complete waste of resources to take up a bed in a rehab that someone else actually needs. And of course they won't take you.

[@ivylovesrunning]

Hair dryg test is awful if you are growing really long hair, but it is worth it. This guy is a psycho.

[@chaemochi]

and brother needs his degree revoked immediately because that's so dangerous that he has that much influence over that situation.

[@jbotts1316]

@@chaemochiexactly!! How many patients has he potentially been able to do this to?

[@summerd7534]

That was the first thing I wondered about was if they had any kids together.

[@KM-kv9yt]

The National Parks organization, as a whole, STRONGLY recommends AGAINST hiking down to the river and back in one day. You should NEVER take someone on that kind of hike without ensuring that they can handle it. You should also pack ENOUGH FOOD AND WATER in case you have to spend the night at the bottom, due to illness or injury. That way, if one person gets caught up, the rest of the group can hang around while they rest or until emergency services arrive. That is not just a run of the mill hike, it is a TREK.

[@HurairaHerbals]

I wholeheartedly agree. To me, these girls are not as experienced as they think they are if they care more about sticking to their "plan" than the safety of another hiker. Honestly, I was mindblown that they actually left her, even if she insisted.

[@darkecoorb2225]

Also to agree and send her back along the way, with not much, that can also be so dangerous on its on for anyone not familiar with the area especially, or with lack of skills

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

@@HurairaHerbals Right? I'm not outdoorsy at all, but it seems like a very clear "no one left behind" situation. I feel like it's a similar thing like swimming or festivals or travelling etc. Keep together, if you get split up, have a meeting point. I feel like that's just basic group behaviour!

[@eileenramirez476]

I HAVE NEVER CLICKED SO FAST OMG!!! First Shayne and then Courtney?! Love it

[@lrkur]

same

[@lydiahovind5513]

ME TOOOI

[@dumpsofyiel]

me toooo

[@MarcelaAnna]

Sameeee

[@edelleaa]

i somehow forgot morgan was on smosh for a moment so i was like WHAAAT court is here?!? not so shocking anymore lol love to see it

[@anniemercer5759]

This girl with the psychiatrist boyfriend needs to go to the police and or doctors office and report this, they are reporters and will help her.

[@amandag4618]

Yeah he needs to be reported to a board. Who knows what he does to patients….

[@inferno7289]

psychologist*

[@rachelbubble3582]

Girl I clicked SO FAST!!! I’m obsessed with the THT/Smosh crossover, it feels like those Disney crossover episodes. I’m so PUMPED for this one!!!!

[@mommapuff9119]

Dude same!!!!

[@tonii_who]

45:58 your wife did not know the woman’s intentions. The fact that your wife noticed there was something off with the woman from the beginning and then possibly the worst possible situation happened, she invaded your wife’s and daughter’s space by touching her belly after being told not to, and attempting to pick up your daughter WITHOUT PERMISSION. What if the woman was going to take off with your daughter? Your wife acted in self defense and was protecting her child since you just sat there and watched it happen without saying anything.

[@Jenna-rg5uf]

Story 4: His comment about it not being about drugs, but being about her safety, gives me the feeling that he was confirming she's not a drug addict, but instead, is saying these things to keep her safe from everyone else she knows. Like he's trying to isolate her from them because in his mind, they're a threat. Probably a threat to her dependence on him...

[@internetclown904]

I also am so confused by the family's response. Psychologist or not, how can they believe him so easily? Can they not tell that she is sober??? I feel like that is so easy to tell. I can't believe a whole family can turn so quick like that....

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

@@internetclown904 If they've been together for that long, he has likely sown doubt for a long while, as they explained in the post. Also, I would not be surprised if there was a history of family issues since that kind of manipulative person are usually really good at picking out the people who have weakened defences from their upbringing.

[@internetclown904]

@@hernameispekka_Rebecca hm I actually didn't think about that! I guess Im just confused how people can believe so easily. Then again I am the type to be on edge a lot and can't trust the word of people unless I see it for myself.

[@karlagonzalvez4703]

I would record him. I think he will admit it, at least subtlety.

[@S0SHIN]

@@internetclown904I have a feeling that if people really don’t do/know about how drugs can actually effect someone to the point of how they act/look they can prolly be really easily persuaded on stuff like this idk but thru my own bias but you’d definitely be able to see a change in demeanor when it comes to it especially if it was a drug he’s tryna force her to go to rehab with.

[@hmmidklooksfine]

the hiking story was scary. i get wanting to finish the hike and all but do they know how many people die in the grand canyon every year? never ever leave someone behind ALONE.

[@imblue9839]

broke hikers code and girl code all at once

[@lily-zg6io]

Not to mention that they say the other girl "looks more fit than us"... but fitness is such a broad range of things, you can have a six pack, and be able to lift a lot but have terrible cardio, or lack flexibility. Plus the fitness depends so much on the sport that you do, hiking, to me, feels a bit like a marathon in terms of the skills you need (pacing your energy over a long time/distance, having the right food to fuel and nourish you for so much effort), and you need to train hard to do long and complex hikes; these aren't the same things that you'd need if you were a dancer, a sprinter, or a bodybuilder. I think OP and her friend might be physically good hikers, but ethically, they have a lot of work to do because they clearly don't know the hiker codes

[@yb9964]

I’ve never been anywhere near hiking, I always thought hiking trails like Grand Canyon were crowded. Like the entrance of Disneyland crowded, with security and stuff 😂

[@bigspiderpapa3458]

​@yb9964 it's probably more populated since it is so well known but at the same time the trail is huge so who exactly knows when you would run into other people also who says you can even trust the random people you meet unfortunately ugh

[@tarag5077]

I just don’t understand why the girl even went. Why is she blameless? You wouldn’t even have to tell me any of that cause I’m not going. Is she completely blameless. I understand they shouldn’t have left her but clearly SHE didn’t know what she was doing. I’m baffled

[@Gorentaya]

The third story is so triggering tbh. Something similar happened to my cousin when she was a literal baby still in a crib. Her dad was on a walk with her and she was sleeping in the stroller. An old lady comes up, and starts talking to my cousin, pulls up her beanie because it was apparently “too low” for her? When her dad told her off that it wasnt okay for her to touch his daughter like that, this woman… says “the children belongs to everyone” IM SORRY HUUH??? THAT IS SOME HORROR MOVIE LINE WHAT ARE YOU ON

[@taeminislove]

I always took the "shop like a billionaire" quote as "our products are so cheap you'll feel like a billionaire with the amount of stuff you'd be able to check out"

[@danaaaliyahneil2133]

Same here

[@Tulipgirl77777]

Yeah, it pretty clearly means that.

[@vianeyboruel504]

Yeppers

[@PowWowMom3]

The pregnant lady was so justified. She is a mama bear!!

[@kmrus514]

I agree completely. A stranger invades your personal space and touches you against your will and tries to pick up the child. She could have run off with the child. The husband needs to stand up for her. I would be so angry at him for not defending me.

[@MzJamaicanBeauty12]

Honestly, pregnant or not, walking up and picking my kids up is an absolutely not.

[@mimmalee]

Story 7: we almost lost our 3yo over the summer due to a near drowning. (He somehow got out of his life jacket) He had to be life flighted to the nearest children’s hospital. We stayed in the hospital for 3 days. It was the most terrifying experience of my life. It broke my heart to hear about that poor mom’s trauma response. She definitely needs therapy to help her cope. Her feelings are so valid but I love the way Courtney said that they can’t prevent the other kids from experiencing life. While we stayed away from pools for the last bit of summer, we will be back in the water next summer. I know it will be hard for us but we don’t want to keep our kids from experiencing water again. My heart truly goes out to that grandma and I hope she is able to find peace.

[@Hannah-hm1bh]

In the UK we had a documentary about Temu and how the jewellery on there isnt regulated, so it can contain unsafe levels of metal and additional toxins. OP is not crazy for not wanting a Temu ring, i wouldnt want one either lmao

[@jelliryan9454]

swim safety instructor here! Every lesson we do fall in training. we have the child jump into the pool, no googles, without holding their nose, then they have to get to the surface of the water by themselves and float for 5 seconds without help. then they yell "help!". We run this drill every single lesson so in the event a child falls into water unexpectedly, they have this skill instilled within them. We teach 1 year olds how to do this. swim safety is sooooo important. our planet is 70% water, kids need to know how to be safe in it.

[@lunap7029]

This is amazing.

[@k-conn2266]

Story 3: It's called Mama Bear Mode for a reason. Also, what kind of husband are you, OP? A strange woman touched your PREGNANT wife and almost kidnapped your daughter! Why didn't you protect your family? Why were you more concerned with how it made you look?

[@alexoxo3]

fr like she was defending her child, it is legally considered assault for the woman to pick up that child without her or her guardians' consent.

[@tiffmitch702]

Chill omg kidnapp most likely was just playing with her yes its weird and disrespectful to touch peoples children i agree but i always had older lady grandma fall in love with my toddler when im out and about one lady even held my daughter and paid for her toys at the register lol idont like it but the kidnapping a little over done

[@cassiemta]

​@@tiffmitch702people always think it's going to be fine until they lose their child. And this husband is terrible.

[@dfordayo]

@@tiffmitch702honestly, I don’t think kidnapping is that far fetched. For the wife to notice that someone was creepily watching them from far away and then touching her without consent and then tried to pick up her daughter. It could have possibly been trafficking for all we know.

[@anoushkathakur8695]

also his wording after of “LETTING her go in public while pregnant” is soooooo icky to me wtf do you mean letting her

[@QueenMFLaurie]

51:05 Some guys don't seem to pick up on danger signals the way we do, but we can sense those off vibes, and so can some dogs. Once, my ex and I had a guy from a store come over to install new floors in our house. He was clearly intoxicated and reeked of beer. His energy felt really off to me, but my ex liked him right away. The store had forgotten to load the kitchen floor, so the guy had to return later-on a day when I was home alone. My ex thought I was overreacting, still insisting the guy was great. When he came back, he was drunk again, and those bad vibes were just as strong. It scared me a lot. Now, whenever a worker comes over, I make sure I'm not alone-either someone is with me or I'm on the phone with someone the whole time.

[@maggiedk]

Oof, glad he's your ex. It's understandable to not pick up on those things but really shitty to not listen to your partner when they say they feel unsafe (especially if you're in a straight relationship with a woman and a man is making her feel unsafe; you should understand that the dynamics are different and that many women have had scary experiences with men). My partner doesn't always understand or see it when I say a man makes me uncomfortable but he always listens and respects how I feel, and would NEVER leave me alone with them.

[@BrookeAlesya]

Story 4 is literally a horror movie that’s so mind blowing . I cannot imagine how long this has been going on for the family to believe him over her…

[@SoobySays]

The punch story? Nah. That’s attempted kidnapping. No judge in the world would convict. The dad needs to support his wife.

[@SoobySays]

Also! “She sees creepy people.” I can’t speak for every pregnant person, but when I was pregnant, having a big bump in front of me out in public, all the time made me feel so much more visible. People would see me and instantly know something about me and have questions for me and would talk to me about their birth stories, all unprompted. I just became so much more aware of the people around me and they became so much more aware of me, so this seems perfectly normal to me.

[@Imjustkendall]

Dad: My wife didn’t let my child get kidnapped, is she TA??

[@RoKer13]

Exactly. He should’ve acted way before she did, the fact your 8 months pregnant wife sucker punched someone before you did is sad but impressive from her lol

[@MorganMatthews-ym7qg]

your episode with Shayne is what sent me to the smosh universe and I love them all. So happy you have Courtney too!!

[@snibbubzik3566]

Same!

[@alli9300]

Same and im so happy bc im obsessed with their content lmfao

[@beeepbooopp]

as a longtime Smosh fan and a THT fan for a couple years now, it's so cool to see people discovering their channels through each other 🥹 two amazing fan-bases are coming together!

[@5210smile]

I came here from her episode on Smosh.

[@na1ani218]

Smosh's episode with Morgan brought me to THT ❤

[@AfikiJ]

Send an "anonymous tip" to the school that the principal is subscribed to the OF account. Claim to be a parent. Then they'll have to investigate and confirm

[@grimlicentia]

I'd also like to point out that she asked "do I know you from somewhere?" and then disappeared before coming back to inform OP of the meeting. This means she went to check OF, at the school, to see if it was the right person. What are the rules about accessing that kind of content while on campus?

[@tendercrocketts]

Story 1: I also have a cheap $30 ring, but I was in on the discussion. I don’t care that my ring is fake and no one can tell that it’s not a real diamond. The problem with this man is that he didn’t discuss it with her beforehand or after to find out if she was okay with it. Also, the sleeping on the couch thing just sounds like he was embarrassed tbh.

[@bubukechu114]

yeah it's not really about the ring being cheap, bc as long as they like it what's the issue? it's still symbolic and beautiful. the issue is the lying by omission and very strange reaction when she tried to probe. also frankly if my coworkers who make 5× less than that guy can afford a few hundred dollar ring, so could he. he was definitely embarrassed and not committed enough to her to actually care. not saying rings have to be expensive to prove they care but if you're doing this as a surprise why wouldn't you a) be truthful about where you got the ring or b) get something /nice/ within your price limit? I know that rings finish is gonna come off and it's gonna look like my rings from middle school

[@_rileyvictoria_]

@@bubukechu114 Alot of women also want to give thier rings to children or grandchildren a cheap ring is not gonna last to do that. I have my grandmas ring for when I get married but I want the ring hugger to at least be durable for it to be passed on when I am gone.

[@mok6680]

The intervention story is literally insane…take a couple family members with you to get a full drug panel done & GET AWAY from that monster, he’s twisted!

[@nicolebesser3548]

You can even get a follicle test which will be able to show if she WAS using months back (addicts typically don't stop long enough for a UA)

[@itslindseeey]

Dude story 4 👀 At first I was thinking what if it’s some kind of psychological experiment, but then I started wondering if he’s making this whole backstory and making her look like a danger to herself and she “OD’s” and it wouldn’t look like his fault..?

[@Caelinus]

Yeah I got real "I am going to murder you" vibes from his behavior. Even just making her disappear would work. I really, really hope she ran to a lawyer first, and then went with them to see a doctor second. You need to get as many layers of law and documentation between you and that person as FAST as possible in that situation. There are way, way too many dangerous things that could happen, and if a person is already gaslighting people to that degree, they are absolutely going to do at least one of those dangerous things.

[@maggiedk]

If it's a "psychological experiment," it's one he's doing with absolutely no backing from any institution, while ignoring every code of ethics for human experimentation (and every scientific principle for valid studies). You're not allowed to experiment on people without their informed consent, full stop. Much less someone you personally know, and even less in a way that's detrimental to their life like this. I'm very doubtful that he sees this as an "experiment," but even if he does, he's still a terrifying individual who's knowingly acting in a way to harm someone else.

[@bailey7792]

They have ways to tell if a person was doing drugs prior to 'OD-ing'. Its not like he would get away with it if that was his master plan. A single hair test would prove she isnt a drug addict and was injected with a hotshot

[@itslindseeey]

@@bailey7792 I didn’t know that, I’m glad that’s a thing! I just hope OP gets out safe

[@misscrazzyD]

​@bailey7792 But would they test for that automatically? If the cops are hearing from everyone around her, oh yeah she had a drug problem, would that change the process? I dont know. But either way, whatever that guys plan is, its not good.

[@hansbanans18]

15:32 I think OP is just worried about the quality of the ring forsure! Not only the price. Basically anything for $38 these days is bound to be low quality, I hope OP finds the info she needs (and definitely evaluates these red flags fiance is giving with the non communication!!)

[@lydiahovind5513]

First, I love Courtney I’m so happy this crossover exists 😍 Second, with story 5, my dad is an avid mountain climber, climbing Mount Baker in WA in a day. Whenever we do family hikes, he makes sure the slowest one is leading the pace. And on trips where he is with someone who isn’t as prepared as they should be, the goal is always to get everyone back safely without injury instead of submitting or finishing the hike, no matter how much anyone in the group wants to. It would’ve sucked, since OP had planned the trip for months in advance, but they should’ve quickly realized they weren’t going to do what they had planned and stuck together as a group to get everyone back safely. They should’ve rescheduled their originally planned hike/trip

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Story 2: I forget how the saying goes exactly but this story sounds exactly like the phrase "they point with one hand and enjoy with the other." That principal is a hypocrite and is probably jealous of OP.

[@PaleAle12345]

Regarding the ring/temu - I've heard so many horror stories by now about those ultra fast fashion or cheap producers putting a lot of toxic materials in their clothing, coloring for decorations and stuff. I would be so worried ordering something from them, especially a ring you will hopefully, if the quality allows it, wear every day...

[@larisabenton7003]

Story 5 shocked me, I get that everyone is worried about the friend, but hearing all those plans, I know my limits, I'd be like: Oh nah Im good After the first fiasco I'd go find other things to do until the end lol

[@NiViBee]

I hate the lack of accountability for the friend so much. She's the only one who could determine her limit for her own safety. You can fight and argue with an adult as much as you want, but you can't make them do anything. Is she gonna pay for all the missed hotels for them messing up their plans? I doubt it.

[@JustMyOpinion40]

16:25 not bothered that it's $38 IF the dude went shopping and was drawn to it. Going onto an app that is notorious for slavery, bad working conditions and for scamming credit card numbers is NOT putting effort into it.its obvious. The rings symbolic of the relationship and the vows they are about to undertake. This dude chose the ring quicker than he did choosing just eat menu. Unreal. You want nice wifey treatment? Start it right with effort.

[@sarahhnolan3559]

Not to mention, they are also notorious for using toxic heavy metals to make those rings.

[@jbotts1316]

And also spent more on the DoorDash that night than he did her ring. I’m all for a less expensive engagement ring, hell mine is from Etsy lol. But I think if that’s not something you both agreed on together, it’s a bit of a sign of disrespect to me. The ethical considerations of buying a ring like that from Temu would also have me questioning things a lot too.

[@JustMyOpinion40]

@jbotts1316 I'm all for a less expensive ring. I dont want diamonds anyway, I would like a tanzanite stone with maybe a cpl of mosannite in the shoulders. But if he was to spend 100-200quid on it I'd be disappointed because I know how much he/we spend on other stuff that would be classed as luxury items. And my ring which im to wear forever is the same price as a boozy night out and Im to be ok with that? I know I wouldn't be, I definitely would feel conflict over it because I would wonder if he's done it on purpose because 'it's just a ring', when to use girlie's its not 'just a ring' If he did cheap out big time on it, it's a sign of disrespect, like 'she's only worth this much,' or 'yeah she'll be fine with this, let's just get this sorted'.

[@courtneysmith2917]

With story #5, I recently went on a trip to the Pacific Northwest and did hikes with way more elevation gain and difficulty than I’ve done before. The group that I was in definitely had more experience than me but made it clear, “The group’s pace is as fast as the slowest hiker’s”. I pushed myself a lot on that trip and ended up surprising myself with my own ability but it was really comforting to know that if I ever reached an actual physical limit, I was never in danger of being left behind or even being made to feel like I was inconveniencing someone. While it sucks to have to adjust plans and maybe miss out on an experience or 2, safety of everyone involved should be the priority the whole time. The 2 people who went ahead should’ve known better than to leave someone by themselves. Anything can happen to people in the outdoors but the risk factor goes up so much when someone is alone, especially if it’s become apparent that the ability level/knowledge isn’t quite up to par. They so easily could’ve called the hike early and regrouped, choosing to do a harder/longer hike the next day and maybe without the more novice hiker

[@Alysssaia]

IM LOVING this smosh crossover. It'll be amazing to have more collabs with smosh members and then make it into a series

[@DaydreamEmily]

No matter how prepared you think you are for a hike, you NEVER KNOW WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN!!! A cousin of mine went on a hike with his son (and guides) and literally *died* - he had trained for months for this hike (and I believe he had medical clearance too) but still, he had a cardiac event and passed away. Hikes are challenging and if you had any inkling that your friend isn’t prepared, you have to say something!!

[@cozeydaze]

Oh my gosh smosh!! You guys should do a couples relationship special with Justin and Shayne!

[@babss7285]

Story 3, Don’t touch me, & def don’t touch my child. The woman clearly didn’t understand verbally & didn’t stop, so she got taught physically. Once someone assaults you, you do whatever you can to get them to back off. If it was a man people would applaud her for the punch

[@elcie04]

In my opinon a proposal should NEVER be a blindside. It is something you MUST discuss before doing it. As well as if your partner wants you to propose publically or not. If they want it to be private or with family. If my partner proposed to me without discussing it with me, i would not say yes because that tells me they dont care about my opinion. The proposal ITSELF should/can be a surprise, but your partner SHOULD KNOW that it is planned.

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

I agree. Shayne mentions this all the time in their Reddit stories and Courtney clearly agrees. You have to know that your partner wants the same thing and roughly how they want it. The worst is a full surprise engagement in front of people. That's basically coercion.

[@elcie04]

@@hernameispekka_Rebecca Exactly it's manipulative and the person on the revieving end ALWAYS looks bad if they say no, and they look even worse if they say yes and then take it back. I think it is absolutely disrespectful to your partner to not discuss it with them first. Even to just prepare themselves mentally for getting engaged because that is a huge step.

[@HollyMessMac]

I saw the Temu ring story on TikTok, and someone commented that maybe OP’s partner had made some really bad financial decisions and lost all their money, and the sudden/cheap proposal was so he could lock down OP and have access to her money. The fact that he was SO shady about it and is apparently desperate to move on and get married makes me think they were right.

[@owe_sydney]

Story 4 was so scary, to morgan & courtney's points she could get drug tested but if he's willing to lie about all of this, whats to say he wouldn't A) tamper w results or B) covertly drug her so she fails. Also, if he's lying about this, I'd be terrified of him lying about her mental health and claiming she's "crazy" What a truly terrifying story 😳

[@ak6ill]

Na fr, like what if he starts drugging her so she actually begins acting unlike herself… what if he gets off on being in the power position and is trying to isolate her and control her. My imagination is even telling me he’s gonna try to get her institutionalized (the family is already recommending rehab).

[@SereneDancer]

​@@ak6illi was worried about that too! Like what if he smoked shit around her so that it would show up. I hope she left him and is laying low and that's why there's no update

[@ak6ill]

@@SereneDancer dude the way he’s having an intervention and the family is demanding she go to rehab I don’t think he was talking about weed. I genuinely think he told em it was hard drugs; I don’t think anyone’s family would react that way even if they were smoking weed everyday ykwis.

[@992dancer]

@@ak6illThe fact that he is a psychologist and is acting like that is TERRIFYING!! Can you imagine someone like that being a therapist and giving people who are struggling advice? He would probably enjoy watching his clients struggle and be at his mercy

[@abbyw3813]

Story 5: ngl If my friend asked to come on a hike i had been training 6 months for, id probably just say no unless they insisted they could handle it I mean.. its the Grand Canyon?? its not hard to look up what the hike is like. If i had ended up in a spot where they told me to go ahead, I would because it was the plan but I'd also tell them to take it easy and on the way back, assuming you pass one another, she can just go back up with me. She shouldve been resting and realized she couldnt do it. Honestly, they both suck.

[@AniaSchutzengel]

It doesn't sound like it's a hike where they'd be coming back the way they went. If it was a hike where you go up and you come back the same way, I'd leave them with an extra water bottle and tell them to just drink and breathe and I'll help them back down on my way back. But if I'm not going past them in the course of finishing the hike and we don't have service, there's no way I'm leaving them there especially in the Grand Canyon in June.

[@kimchiwinchester7148]

Yeah she wasn't invited, she asked to come. She's an adult and it sounded like the two who had planned tried to explain how to prepare and everything, and since she was a crossfit girly, they all thought she'd be okay. She's an adult and said to go ahead. These women weren't her parents. She saw them pack all that stuff, saw what they were eating. I love walking our local trail, but I'd never think I could make that hike as I am right now. That's insane to me. It's on Valerie at minimum 90% and the other two, at most, 10%, just because yeah, you probably shouldn't leave a woman alone on a trail in general. But they talked to a ranger and they checked in with her more than once.

[@jimmiesavage437]

Ya it's not like they invited her

[@jimmiesavage437]

​@@kimchiwinchester7148completely agreed. She invited herself and made all these choices herself. I've dealt with people who are casually fit who insist they can go on real hikes with me and end up making the entire experience hell because they didn't listen to anything anyone said to them.

[@kimchiwinchester7148]

@jimmiesavage437 I also have a feeling it wasn't heat stroke, but heat exhaustion. Heat stroke is super serious and she'd be in the ER imo

[@MudstarAwesome]

Omg I clicked immediately as soon as I saw Courtney. You now got Shayne and Courtney, YOU GOTTA GET AMANDA NOW!

[@tiffanysmith4046]

I freaking love Amanda duuudeee yasss, I love everyone here who loves both channels and is just going ham with suggestions now LOL

[@kinemelbye6634]

This!

[@musicalanimeworld]

Imagine if Morgan got both Chance and Angela too together? It would be such a fun episode

[@spazzyisopod8220]

58:27 Okay something similar happened to someone I know. It wasn't a therapist but he was very charming. He convinced the wifes family that she was on drugs and did a lot of crazy thing like this. Then he ordered a hit on his wife and apparently was going to tie it to the drugs luckily the hitman was an undercover cop and the whole thing was foiled.

[@MadisonZenker-i4f]

The last story! My parents have always had a pool at every house we lived in, so I knew how to swim at a very young age. At every family event with swimming they always hired a lifeguard. She even saved one of my friends when we were kids. Pool/water safety is so important.

[@UrFaveChapter]

Story 4: my first thought was "hes gonna kill her with some drug, blame it on her 'addiction,' and clearly her family will believe that"

[@ghosty8193]

Story 5: ESH (but imo, the OP is the worst). Sorry, but friends trump a hiking trail more than anything. 'We had to walk x miles before sundown'.. no you don't. As a big hiker, taking care of your group and making sure everyone is ok is paramount. I would NEVER leave my friend to catch up, especially since she was clearly struggling. OP and her friend are lucky the other friend didn't die or sustain serious injuries.

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

Yeah, a whole group of experienced hikers invite their newbie hiker friend along for what doesn't sound like a beginner friendly hike. They notice her struggling, and just leave her. And frankly, I'm doubtful they actually communicated what she should expect and plan for going into this. Not even a checklist or something. Smh

[@ghosty8193]

@@DragonbornMike-ym2er it honestly sounds like them being uneducated… sort of? Hiking and cardio in a gym are VERY different and require different things. They’re bad friends. The second they saw she was acting a salad, they should have jumped in and offered advice. And if they knew she’s not into hiking or a beginner, they should have been honest and explained the difficulty of the hike. Being an asshole saves lives. I’ve refused to bring friends along to hikes because they severely underestimated it. Others haven’t been so lucky and have died. PROTECT YOUR FRIENDS!! Also (and I’m sorry for my rant) but the Grand Canyon hikes are INSANE! I haven’t been but I have friends who have and they said even the experienced in their group were worn out by the end. They said it was a lot of narrow paths and very rocky. Not for beginners or anyone inexperienced.

[@jimmiesavage437]

She made all those choices herself I have no sympathy for her.

[@jimmiesavage437]

And they didn't invite her. It clearly states they tried to tell her how hard the hike would be and explained it and she said she'd be fine

[@candiedolives5340]

​@@DragonbornMike-ym2er it sounds like they assumed going to the gym = complete knowledge of all physical activities & they didn't tell her anything they had looked up to prepare. OP definitely sucks

[@StaciWeidner07]

Story 4 gave me the chills. And when Courtney was talking about isolation, 💯 ughhh it’s so true- you don’t know it’s happened until it’s too late. Been there, but thankfully i had a few good friends left and i got out.

[@KaylaK3002]

In regards to the ring story, I think there’s always a time and place to be cheap. If you have the means to buy a more expensive ring, then I think he should’ve. He clearly knew what Temu was because he didn’t disclose it initially and I think he felt ashamed that’s why he went to sleep on the couch. The ring doesn’t need to be 5 or 6 figures but $30 is ridiculous.

[@berniecirni]

I agree. Its more about how much of an investment he considers her to be if he has the means. Im sure the prenup is the next natural step

[@gcp2017]

1:20:06 I’m sorry but I really disagree with a lot that y’all are saying here.. it seems like y’all missed/ mixed up a bunch of details and the timeline. Like the third friend invited herself into this, even tho it sounds like op explained a lot to her, packed food and water for her, and tried to double check with her at multiple points.

[@ceciliaalexander8881]

Courtney+Shayne & Morgan+Justin EPISODE!?! 😮😄😬🤞🎉

[@wellhowthehellareya]

Yes yes!! I second this!! ❤

[@tiffanysmith4046]

​@@wellhowthehellareyai know 4 people is a lot to setup and make happen but boy, if this happens we will all go crazy thankful & lose our minds 😂 😂😂

[@SmurfSteffi]

Story 3: Not only was the stranger concerning for ignoring OP's wife telling her not to touch her belly, but a huge red flag is: who the hell will continue to pick up the child after the mother pushed you off? Any rational person would immediately back off after that altercation so the fact that the stranger went to pick up the daughter immediately after is a huge indicator of bad intentions. The husband should have known that this stranger shouldn't be around his family and helped to defend his wife and child.

[@emilymorgan3567]

Our Courtney is such a sweetheart, asking Morgan all the cute questions about her engagement ❤️ Peak Court energy 💕💕💕

[@emilove7943]

The thing with temu is you have to look in the description. They will advertise one material in the items name but it’s a completely different material in the description. Also gold plated, usually it will tarnish over time and leave a grey or black ring around your finger from the plating rubbing off.

[@emmyauthorized]

Love the THT and Smosh crossover!!

[@tiffanysmith4046]

Morgan picks such amazing guests and so sweet to spoil us with another smosh cast star 🌟

[@nikhoovie]

Smosh infiltrating all of my favorite podcasts has been the best thing about 2024

[@allmyfavrappersaredead]

ONLY FANS IS NOT PUBLIC THAT STORY HAD ME LIVID

[@alphawollf5589]

It’s not but it can easily become public if someone steals or shares content. That’s the risk that comes with doing it. It’s never truly private

[@ThatGuySleepyMiles]

​@@alphawollf5589Like that principal.

[@bailey7792]

Oh knock it off. If you upload naked pictures to an internet website, you dont have any real expectation privacy. Just because they're not supposed to download or share it... doesn't mean they can't or won't find a way. Give me a break 🙄

[@ThatGuySleepyMiles]

@@bailey7792 Even if people do that, that doesn't mean those photos are for the public. They're behind a paywall, they're supposed to be private. He's not posting himself in a random forum or on Facebook. He's posting it privately behind a paywall. Whether or not people bypass that, /he's/ not doing anything publicly.

[@jessicapurdum5084]

@@ThatGuySleepyMileshow is he promoting his OF? Pretty sure you got to promote it to be found and a lot of people use SM to do that

[@HolandaChiquita]

Complete strangers ignoring what you say and touching children without permission... those are dangerous. That's how your child gets kidnapped!

[@ananyashree.s5631]

The energy between these two is so effervescent! So contagious 🤌🏼🥹

[@lilypichon8221]

YAASS STORY 2 PRINT OUT JANE’S INVOICE 🗣️

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Story 4: WTAF is wrong with this family that their first impulse is to ice OP out rather than reach out and help her. Even if she was an addict, addicts don't respond well to forced isolation or ultimatums. Also I think Courtney might have the right idea about Munchausen's by proxy, but I think the fact that he's pushing for her going into rehab so much would probably be that he would be given medical control over her and would probably feed more lies to the doctors and nurses to get more control over her. This story legit reminds me of the recent Invisible Man remake, where the Invisible Man gets his ex-girlfriend put in a psych ward to isolate her.

[@nicolebesser3548]

They guy is a Narcissist. He isn't making her sick. He is just lying, manipulating and isolating OP. When HE becomes violent, nobody will believe the addict that isn't an addict.

[@Yviene311]

I bet the boyfriend was telling the family what was "best" for them to do

[@jbotts1316]

I’m wondering if the family were already quite toxic with their relationship with OP? To already just be siding with the partner is concerning, they didn’t seem hesitant at all to full life OP out. It’s giving vibes of unsupportive or unstable parenting for them to act like that right off the bat without so much as listening to OPs side of the story.

[@lizoropeza1442]

Story #1 The ring doesn’t have to be expensive but at least make sure it cost more than 1 hr of work. He is probably salary but if he was hourly his hourly rate would be about $96 per hour. So he bought her a ring that was worth less than 30 minutes of his work day! Insane!

[@annahwalsh39]

Temu is notorious for having jewelry with dangerous heavy metals. She should have the ring tested.

[@aragorniielessar1894]

The thing with story is 3 is that people have this mentality that women can't be predators, if a man had done the same, the husband would have punched him the same way his wife punched the woman. Or if the wife punched a man who did the same thing, the husband would not have had a problem with it.

[@kris10kent45]

Story 2: I used to work at a religious high school and I can confirm that they're the WORST places to work. I wore a skirt to work once that was a good 2 inches below my knee (a looser a-line) and when I sat down during chapel the skirt rose up just short enough to show HALF my knee due the type of fabric slipping over my blouse. When I stood up, before I could even adjust it, I got pulled aside by my vice principal for being inappropriate. Meanwhile her husband the principal, would let girls (who wore skirts due to school uniform) lay on couches and face him him with their legs spread or sit literally touching him leg to leg in his office. But half of my knee was inappropriate 🙃 I just pray all those kids are okay now

[@eyeseajujubee]

Arizonan here. Hiking the Grand Canyon is no joke. You NEED to be prepared to be and stay safe. Your safety is your responsibility, especially in the desert. The guy who’s story is 127 Hours was not prepared. Always tell someone where you’re going and bring extra water when you’re in the desert.

[@shannie1993]

Story 3: absolutely NOT! 1. He won’t allow her to go out in public because she is pregnant?! She is not a birthing machine. She is a human being and will most likely be home bound for a few months when the new baby comes. Iykyk. And it drives women crazy. 2. Technically, she put her hands on her, and was told no. That is still physical assault since it is unwanted touching. 3. You have NO idea what a random person will do with your daughter. She could pick her up and run. Pull at her hair. Kiss her. What’s more traumatic? Your parents allowing one person to touch you even if you feel uncomfortable OR that your parents fought someone to protect you! I’d much rather know if I’m in a scary situation I can turn to my parents! 4. Maybe your wife notices people being “creepy” because she is a woman. It’s insane how women can say something feels off with people around them and the guys are absolutely clueless. And remain clueless even after it being pointed out.

[@jbotts1316]

I know right!! I’m really hoping that he meant that he was concerned about her going out because it would have been pretty peak pandemic at that time and not something else. But the way he wrong it reaked of “women are so hormonal and crazy, you just can’t let them out of your sight”. Yet another bright red flag dude. This episode have red flag men all round really…and some other red flag ladies in there too lol

[@isabellazeier3253]

Story 4 is crazy. I remember my step mom tried to convince my dad i was on drugs because I was 98 lbs at the time, I was actually deathly sick. couldn't eat without throwing up. Had trouble swallowing food

[@Kaylabug1210]

NO FREAKING WAY WE GOT COURT!!! I love them so much😭

[@SereneDancer]

For the Temu story, the fact he bought it from a store known to use slave labour (and i know that most fast fashion places use sweatshops) as well as lying and stealing designs gives me horrible vibes. But besides that the fact he won't have a conversation about it makes it so much worse!!!

[@VivianCharly]

OMG, Story 4 😮 What if she goes to get tested as proof and she tests positive for something in her system because he's been sneaking a substance in her drinks or something. Sounds like it's a game to him. To see how far he can use his profession to persuade everyone and himself how far he can take it. It made me think of that show with Julia Roberts Gaslit

[@candiedolives5340]

Then she doesn't share the results & she files a police report that she has been drugged, just to start a paper trail

[@hazelnutt2011]

Absolutely possible. James Craig poisoned his wife, Angela, multiple times and almost got away with it. As a dentist he was able to get a hold of stuff that a normal person couldn't do the hospital never checked for the poison.

[@coolgirlcorgan]

Story 5. They ABSOLUTELY should have confirmed w their friend how experienced she was in hiking. Also, I am sorry, but hiking in over 100 degree weather is dumb on its own. So many people in AZ die from heat/sun stroke while hiking in the heat. Just having your friend come along without absolutely confirming she would be able to do it is irresponsible. They could have easily said “Hey, we would love for you to join, but we have been training and planning for 6 months and it just would not be safe for you to join this time. But we should start hiking together so we can all do a big trip like this together another time!”

[@aliciabarrie7229]

Story 4: thats fucking terrifying. Leave that man and leave your family behind. How dare they believe him over you. You've seen their true colors. Believe them and save yourself future heartbreak. What a monster.

[@Purple_Dragonfly2002]

1:17:29 it sounds like the person who went with them had all necessary info, and supplies except for the exspirience/training for this. Their mistake was letting her join, I'm almost certain they explained how difficult/long this hike is and the person should have been able to see the terrain of the Grand Canyon and know it would be difficult; EXSPCALY knowing how hot it was supposed to be. Also it sounds like they got the message from her that she was at the lodge when they got to the top where they had service again and that the lodge was back at the bottom of the canyon. They were already exhausted and it was getting dark, it would have been more dangerous for them to try and go meet her when they knew she was safe and had another group to go with.

[@kateymowat1211]

Story two is so infuriating. I feel for that teacher. How is the principal getting off with no reprimanding but OP is in the hot seat?

[@CJO_o]

Story 4: He's been love bombing her for 3 years. He's been the perfect bf until now. He's getting her isolated and what scares me most, he's setting up so that if she disappears no one will question it because she'll be in "rehab".

[@JustMyOpinion40]

23:26 travel rings are not even about being robbed altho that is a concern, the amount of brides that lose their rings just from being in the sea is crazy so I think travel rings came from that. X

[@SaraBliese]

Last story- my grandparents had an inground pool when I was VERY young. I fell in and almost drowned. (I don't remember it at all). My parents had pools at 2 of our homes. The Grandma needs therapy- it's completely understandable that she has a ton of trauma from that, but she needs to process it and not try to control everyone else based on her trauma.

[@jenellelynn4551]

As someone who hikes a lot of intense hikes: I've had to deal with people like this before. People who insist on coming with you, you give them all the advice and guidance you can, then THEY make the choice to not listen and THEY put themselves in a dangerous situation. Granted, I probably wouldn't have left them, but I would be pissed if months of planning got ruined because of someone less experienced who decided they knew better and didn't wanna follow my advice. I don't know if I would want to be friends with that person after that. At minimum, they absolutely would never go on another hike with me again. I'm there to have a good time, not act as mother for another adult, having to pack their water and snacks for them. I've learned from experiences like this that I just will not go on difficult hikes with inexperienced hikers, even if I think they're physically capable. I just refuse because of these exact situations.

[@hmaribel819]

Story 4 - has there been no response from OP because she was already forced to go into a rehab ? scary

[@tendercrocketts]

Story 2: HR here. If this is an at will US employee, she can get fired for almost anything (minus protected statues like gender, race, etc.) Technically, if they just hate the color of her shirt, she can be fired without cause. So she absolutely could get fired for bringing an adult content creator onto a school campus. Is it fair? Probably not. If I was her, I also wouldn’t disclose anything about her boyfriend and she can technically decline the meeting or at the very least bring a lawyer to the meeting.

[@non8546]

One aspect of story 4 I didn’t hear discussed is that it’s common for people with toxic upbringings to choose toxic partners. It makes complete sense that her family is going along with him. She chose him as a partner because he’s like her family.

[@jbotts1316]

That’s what I was thinking too. For her family to immediately want to cut her off and dismiss her like that, it would be super unsurprising if she had to go through a toxic upbringing tbh.

[@KH0495]

Getting the engagement ring tea from Courtney!! 👀 Thank you Morgan!!

[@ChefSarah4104]

Court's "hello" is one of my favorite things. Different inflections change the meaning so much.

[@Bexeggcute]

COURT?!? LET’S FRECKING GOOOOOO 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Comicbrooke]

I’m LOVING the longer episodes lately!!

[@errtothebear]

Power couple episode one? All four of you would be amazing because you all have such big hearts.

[@belliejelli1642]

Story 4 - I have a theory the boyfriend is actually addicted to drugs/doing something shady and blaming her deflects all suspicion from him. Maybe things actually have gone missing and he’s been spending more money, and he was getting paranoid she’d realise. It also makes him look like a hero in the situation. If she can afford it - get a full drug test, drugs can stay in hair follicles for AGES so being proven clean would show she’d never used them. Second, I’d recommend getting a psychiatrist evaluation, fight fire with fire, it will be evidence that his “professional opinion” is bullshit because a professional disagreed with him.

[@nicolebesser3548]

He is a Narcissist. This is EXACTLY how they work. I left one 30+ years ago barely. The only reason I got all the way free, is because he "accidently" killed the woman after me.

[@DearSady]

Story 4- can OP not just take a drug test and prove that she hasn't been taking drugs??? If this was happening to a friend or family member of mine and they were denying their partners claims, that would be the first thing I'd consider doing????? Edit: Ope should have waited a few more minutes lol. I feel so bad for OP, her family is wild for not believing her. I hope she's okay!

[@drivablecar]

I actually read that post before it ended up here. A lot of people in the comments were warning that he might have been micro dosing her for months so she would fail a drug test. What a absolute nightmare for op.

[@candiedolives5340]

​@@drivablecarall the more reason for her to take a drug test. She seems reluctant to cut him off so maybe finding out he's drugging her would actually make her leave

[@drivablecar]

@@candiedolives5340 Agreed but she should do it privately, and figure out where to go from there. The family already believes him, a positive test will only confirm his position with them.

[@caitlinharrison4245]

The husband of the pregnant wife and stranger trying to pick up daughter, dude??? Get it together. Protect your wife and kid? Ridiculing mom for reacting?? Get out of here. Dude is so not self aware.